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Deleted User 12-Feb-18 12:35 AM

unity/duty/destiny coins invisible, as well as white orbs invisible sometimes but viewable from certain angles.

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 12:38 AM

One of us should put together a list of known bugs and I'll pin the post

I'll put it in the announcments channel

Galgo 12-Feb-18 12:38 AM

How about the bug where if you attack while jumping, you accelerate?

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 12:39 AM

I never noticed that one. xD

Galgo 12-Feb-18 12:39 AM

Yeah, it’s useful for levels that don’t have the kakama lol

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 12:41 AM

Another good speedrun exploit is with the Miru

if you run and jump BEFORE activating the mask, it holds the momentum you had from a fully grounded running jump

Using that you can get some massive distance, and even fly out of bounds in some areas.

On stream I managed to jump over the walls of Ta-Koro

Deleted User 12-Feb-18 12:43 AM

accidentally activating sticky keys and alt tabbing out while mashing invisiblity on/off turned everything white, even after a warp, with the exception of two black orbs from whenuas house after the cutscen in onu koro

playing as onua (edited)

onua*

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 12:43 AM

The game just doesn't like alt+tabbing in general

Most of the time it causes a crash

Deleted User 12-Feb-18 12:43 AM

i noticed lol

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 12:44 AM

Also lol sticky keys.

Deleted User 12-Feb-18 12:44 AM

ikr, just windows 7 problems

JrMasterModelBuilder 12-Feb-18 12:47 AM

Activate it once, then disable it. (edited)

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 02:21 AM

Oh yeah, so @JrMasterModelBuilder

That's just part of the log, but might be useful.

JrMasterModelBuilder 12-Feb-18 02:24 AM

That's interesting, shouldn't it have used the one in SysWOW64?

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 02:24 AM

I can send you the whole thing in a bit, but you'll have to use ProcMon to open it

No idea

I can export ax XML, but it's impossible to read

JrMasterModelBuilder 12-Feb-18 02:24 AM

Nah, I don't think I need it.

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 02:24 AM

Oh okay

JrMasterModelBuilder 12-Feb-18 02:25 AM

To fix it, I'll probably need to run it with a debugger, at which time I can just run procmon too.

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 02:25 AM

That's fair.

Well... at least we have SOME info now.

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 12:34 PM

Alt tabbing in cutscenes creates borderline softlock situations

Don't do it kek

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 03:10 PM

Alt tabbing at any point causes issues. The patch we made for resolution upscaling however seems to fix it. Likeise, so does simply running the game in DXWnd

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 03:21 PM

Excellent, thank you

Thi' 12-Feb-18 03:45 PM

Almost running on XP s3 via VirtualBox, got the intro and sound but black screen

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 03:45 PM

Tabbing out and tabbing in does

uh

this

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 03:46 PM

Well that's a new one

Philosophy101 12-Feb-18 03:48 PM

Did you have that setting at 1, it was something in bionicle.ini like SvbOther or something like that

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 03:49 PM

svprad = 1

also, pressing esc in the controls help menu in gali's level softlocks the game

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 03:50 PM

It does that sometimes in Onua's too.

We still need to make a known bugs compendium

And highlight the game breaking ones

For instance, loading a save anywhere in Gali's level will cause entering water to crash the game.

Omega12 12-Feb-18 03:57 PM

Lewas has two vines in his level that warp the player making it impossible to progress without an exploit

Entering le Koro crashes the game

Some machines have an issue where far off objects are rendered in front of close objects

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 03:59 PM

This is what I have so far, barring the list of crashing areas: (edited)

Known bugs: Game Breaking Bugs: • Alt+tabbing out of the game causes graphical bugs, freezes, or crashes (Note: This bug is fixed by running the game through DXWnd, or using our upcoming up-res patches) • Various caves and doorways will crash the game (Full list of unreachable areas can be found below) • Entering some crashing doorways will corrupt your save, putting the game in a crash loop (See @JrMasterModelBuilder's Python script for save backup until fixed) • Loading a save anywhere in Gali's level will cause entering water to crash the game • Re-entering the area of the Takara stage in Ga-Koro will result in a softlock • Collecting the Kanohi Matatu in Kopaka's level results in a cutscene softlock Minor Bugs: • Various objects, (Including three Onu-Matoran but for their shadows necessary for progression) are invisible either due to lack of programmed animations, or currently unknown reasons • Some distant objects and entities will render in front of currently loaded geometry • Exiting water as Gali by diving will result in her animations being permanently slowed down until you re-enter and properly surface then jump or walk out. Known Areas That Crash the Game: Onua's Level: • Cave immediately to the left of Kapura • Diggable caves in the Nui Jaga chamber Pohatu's Level: • Cave directly to the right of Po-Koro's second Koli field Kopaka's Level: • At least one cave in the ice maze area Lewa's Level: • Cave immediately following the third vine section Tahu's Level: • Re-entering the Takara stage after already completing the dance will crash @everyone, Anyone else have anything to add? (edited)

Omega12 12-Feb-18 04:01 PM

So wait, you can load saves normally?

On my machine it crashes when entering the screen, I can only select a level, not start or continue a game

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 04:02 PM

Yeah, loading a save should work.

Try running the game as admin if you're on Win 7. It might be flipping out that it does't have permission to modify the save file

Omega12 12-Feb-18 04:02 PM

My intro videos are also glitched, but I don't really care about that

Ahhhhhh good idea

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 04:05 PM

jumping in water as gali will rarely lock me like this

everything works except moving and attacking and jumping (edited)

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 04:06 PM

Ah that reminds me of a nother minor bug to add

The exiting water animation bug

Updated the list

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 05:17 PM

Better version: entering the menu immediately after jumping into a death plane crashes the game

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 05:17 PM

Consistently in any level? (edited)

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 05:18 PM

I've tested it on Onua, Gali, Kopaka, and Lewa

so probably

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 05:18 PM

Adding to the list then

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 05:19 PM

yeah every level

Freerey 12-Feb-18 05:19 PM

hey I get that same error!

Swordsworth 12-Feb-18 05:19 PM

I believe this occurs when it tries to respawn you while you're in the menu

since it's on a timer

Warping to PST1 in makuta level crashes the game

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 05:21 PM

Added the menu respawn bug to the list

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 06:12 PM

@Team Litestone Regarding Win 10 compatability, I grabbed a ProcMon log of the game's entire startup process. Might be useful to somebody here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0yr5z07vw8g3u3/Logfile.PML?dl=0

Logfile.PML

Shared with Dropbox

JiroTheOne 12-Feb-18 07:32 PM

When I captured a procmon log on my Win10 machine, I'm getting this:

See that setjmpex - could that be anything? Looking up that hex ref via Google, which may be daft, leads to this OpenGL vertex shader ref #define GL_OUTPUT_TEXTURE_COORD6_EXT 0x87A3. Could be nothing. (edited)

benji 12-Feb-18 07:36 PM

That's part of the Windows kernel code and, as far as I can tell, isn't related to OpenGL at all.

Sukikyo 12-Feb-18 08:12 PM

All the sounds are just never gonna give you up for me, I dunno if bug or whatever

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 08:14 PM

Dammit Phee. xP

Sukikyo 12-Feb-18 08:14 PM

Oh wait

My mistake

That was my playlist I have game audio turned off

Omega12 12-Feb-18 08:28 PM

heh

ShadowDraikana 12-Feb-18 09:16 PM

Selecting Options in the main menu kills the menu music. Doesn't appear to be a way to get it back without restarting the game.

Freerey 12-Feb-18 09:40 PM

hang on a sec...I see someone mentioned they were able to get LoMN running on a Windows 7 VM?

N3CR0 12-Feb-18 09:55 PM

its a rumor at this point

even then its probably fake anyway

ⴳ Imrukii (Not Dave) 12-Feb-18 09:56 PM

What reason would one have to lie about that?

Omega12 12-Feb-18 10:26 PM

move this if need be

gali's shrine is an untextured version of pohatu's shrine

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 10:27 PM

Huh

ShadowDraikana 12-Feb-18 10:28 PM

Wait, is there supposed to be music in the levels?

Because if so selecting options kills that too.

Omega12 12-Feb-18 10:29 PM

and tahu's shrine spawns him far away in lava

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 10:29 PM

Well yes and no

ShadowDraikana 12-Feb-18 10:29 PM

Yeah, the death loop

Omega12 12-Feb-18 10:29 PM

nah, you can walk on the lava

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 10:29 PM

Tahu's shrine when WARPED to starts off with a cutchene where he lava surfs to the shore

Omega12 12-Feb-18 10:29 PM

ahhhhh

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 10:29 PM

He's invisible though

However

If you DIE, you get put into a respawn loop where the cutscene started, which I guess is also the spawn point.

Which is unfortunately over lava.

On an unrelated note, I finally found a workaround for the game/mouse issues I've had for over a year now with Synergy. (edited)

So I can test things without having multiple keyboards at my desk for the Win 7 PC

(Synergy is a program to control multiple PCs with the same keyboard and mouse over LAN as if they were a multi-monitor setup.)

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 12-Feb-18 10:32 PM

Oh whaat

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 10:33 PM

Hm?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 12-Feb-18 10:33 PM

That's just cool. I bet that would be useful for comparison videos

ShadowDraikana 12-Feb-18 10:33 PM

Can anyone confirm the sound bug though?

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 10:33 PM

The options menu?

I've never noticed it

ShadowDraikana 12-Feb-18 10:34 PM

Yeah. It killed the music for me in the menu (and the onua level id that's supposed to have muaic)

Omega12 12-Feb-18 10:40 PM

can't say i noticed a sound bug

Deleted User 12-Feb-18 11:31 PM

terrain doesn't load unless i being the camera underwater and back

then disappears again if i walk back to shore Specs: Gateway 702E OS: Windows XP Home v. 2002, SP3 CPU: Intel Pentium 4, 3.2Ghz GPU: Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS Using DirectX 9 (edited)

Philosophy101 12-Feb-18 11:39 PM

whenever I go in water in galis leve the screen turns blue then I respon in a like 10 sec

Omega12 12-Feb-18 11:41 PM

same

V A H K I T I 12-Feb-18 11:51 PM

No idea baout those ones. o-O

Swordsworth 13-Feb-18 12:23 AM

I've experienced this too

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 12:25 AM

which one?

Swordsworth 13-Feb-18 12:32 AM

Water bug

Freerey 13-Feb-18 12:36 AM

Anyone else having an issue where the cursor doesn't show up?

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 12:37 AM

i'm getting an issue where no text pops up outside the level menu

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:22 AM

I'm experiencing a problem where when I run the game, the game loads up. Can someone explain??

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:23 AM

Dammit Phee.

Freerey 13-Feb-18 01:23 AM

it means your memory isn't clogged up enough; you need more porn on the PC

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:23 AM

Hmm

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:23 AM

Nah, clearly the solution is as follows:

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:23 AM

Gotta download more ram

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:23 AM

Go to C/Windows

And delete the folder called System32

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:24 AM

What if i'm running 64 bit?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:24 AM

Then delete SysWOW64.

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:24 AM

Thank

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:24 AM

Anytime my dude

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:25 AM

Ok, I did that but the game still runs as intended

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:25 AM

Whelp. Burn the house down

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:30 AM

I've been playing for 6 hours and have found no insects, you guys sure there are bugs??

Freerey 13-Feb-18 01:30 AM

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:31 AM

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 01:38 AM

Not certain if this has been discussed, although it seems as though the Kopaka and Makuta levels expire after a certain amount of time. Both levels were working on two seperate computers running Windows 7 (one a laptop and one a desktop) and both now only render as a blinding white nothingness. (edited)

Freerey 13-Feb-18 01:42 AM

try going into the Bionicle.ini file and changing SvpOther from 0 to 2

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 01:43 AM

No change.

Freerey 13-Feb-18 01:43 AM

@V A H K I T I it doesn't work

Sukikyo 13-Feb-18 01:45 AM

Have you tried downloading more ram?

Freerey 13-Feb-18 01:45 AM

lol no we're done with that

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 01:46 AM

I tried, but the website I get the ram from said they were out.

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:47 AM

@Freerey I'll remove it from the release notes

Freerey 13-Feb-18 01:47 AM

sweet

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:48 AM

Added back to the known bugs list.

Freerey 13-Feb-18 01:49 AM

do we even know what svp stands for?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:49 AM

@Eljay Johnsen Try loading into Onua's level and then back to Kopaka/Makuta's. (edited)

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 01:50 AM

... Huh. Worked like a charm.

Would you reccomend keeping SvpOther at 2 as opposed to 0?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:51 AM

More reports have told me it doesn't work now than it does, so may as well set it back.

Seems to be a rendering issue regarding loading those levels up directly from the menu on some systems immediately after launching the game. My best guess is that Onua's level loads up all the shaders that are to be cached for the rest of the game to use, but their loading wasn't yet programmed into the least finished areas of the game.

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 01:53 AM

That makes a lot of sense. This kind of work completely and udderly baffles me, so at this point anything you guys say will make sense to me.

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 01:55 AM

I'm just guessing for the most part. JMMB is the real coder here. I just tinker until something happens, note the data for future reference and use it to make other stuff happen until it does what I want.

It just makes sense to me because Kopaka's level is so borked that the sound effects are ear rape, and Nuju, (in the one area he loads only accessible by debug menu) has no animations, and runs around in a T pose

We fixed the latter bug earlier actually by swapping Nuju's incomplete rig and animation files for Onewa's.

Oh and half the shit in Makuta's level doesn't even load properly. What little does work ranges from extremely barebones to "how the fuck does this not crash the game?" levels of unfinished.

Case in point, here is Lewa's section:

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 01:59 AM

Yeah, that's certainly noticeable from Akamai popping in for a brief moment toward the start on Makuta's level. You guys figure that he's the intended character there?

And woaaah.

Freerey 13-Feb-18 02:00 AM

with Onua in it

the moral is: Onua was meant for underground

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 02:00 AM

Yeah, I basically just opened Onua's level and warped there to get the screenshot.

Freerey 13-Feb-18 02:00 AM

how'd you warp?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 02:00 AM

Debug menu

Freerey 13-Feb-18 02:00 AM

oh

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 02:01 AM

And yeah, Akamai and Whairua, along with the Manas, Mana Ko, and a level CALLED Mana, are all in the game

But THIS is how unfinished Mana level is...

No ground texture at all, and only one of the three doors actually leads anywhere

No roof either

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 02:02 AM

Is there even enough there to cobble any kind of a Frankenstein level that's playable? Or is it too early to even be possible?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 02:02 AM

It's SUPPOSED to be the Kaita transofrmation chamber seen in the beta FMV

It's possible.

Probably.

A lot of the data missing is THERE, just not rendering in game (edited)

Out of all of the levels, Onua's is the most complete

Freerey 13-Feb-18 02:03 AM

I'll tell you this: I have a LAN to attend this weekend and you can bet I'm bringing my XP computer to work on this game...as well as show it off

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 02:04 AM

LAN?

Freerey 13-Feb-18 02:04 AM

yep

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 02:04 AM

Local Area Network?

Freerey 13-Feb-18 02:04 AM

*LAN party

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 02:04 AM

Ah

I was close then.

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 03:05 AM

I had to step out before you guys got around to Lewa, so I take it his second round 'o vines are bugged as well?

Or do I just suck at platformers?

Aaand answered my own question. Nevermind, I just suck.

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 03:07 AM

Well yes and no.

It's POSSIBLE but the hitboxes are ass

On the other side is ANOTHER vine sectio

And after that... crash

Eljay Johnsen 13-Feb-18 03:08 AM

Oh. Oh joy.

Well, darn.

Tetsu Aero 13-Feb-18 01:49 PM

I experienced a bug on Tahu's level while in Ta-koro. I talked to all the villagers, then i entered Vakama's house. While in there, something kept pulling me to the side of the big fireplace. After three times, the game froze. I run it o Win 8, and the usual error box did not appear this time. So i had to log out from my windows account to exit the game without having to restart the computer.

Galgo 13-Feb-18 01:58 PM

The game works on windows 8?

On the subject of bugs, my windows 7 installation doesn’t render any of the scene transitions.

darkeluim 13-Feb-18 01:59 PM

it works on 8 and 8.1

Galgo 13-Feb-18 01:59 PM

Example: https://youtu.be/qA2Z9DAghYM

Jaekoff

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata-Nui: Dance of Pohatu

Pohatu's Takara from the recently found cancelled game. Download: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/the-legend-of-mata-nui/

darkeluim 13-Feb-18 02:00 PM

maybe you're compability option or something

can you do stuff like jump or anything else?

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:00 PM

WOAH WOAH WOAH

Hold the phone

Need someone to compare

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:00 PM

Yeah, on that note the jumping bug I referred to before is shown too

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

Are the Matoran animations the same as onuas dance?

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

Yeah

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

Just different music

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

Only the toa have unique dances

And turaga (edited)

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

PERFECT!

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

!!

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

then I just have to get kopaka and nuju working

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

I have the rest of the dances on my channel if you need to compare

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:01 PM

I got the Matoran working correct in kopaka's dance last night

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:02 PM

Yeah I saw

Did kopaka work?

darkeluim 13-Feb-18 02:02 PM

i know what you're problem is i think i got the same on 8.1

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:02 PM

But I thought the Matoran also had new animations

No, kopaka and nuju didn't render

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:02 PM

If that’s the case then how hard should it be to restore the invisible onu-matoran?

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:02 PM

But I can check the file that references all the animation

darkeluim 13-Feb-18 02:03 PM

try limit the color settings to 8

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:03 PM

Will do!!

Where are the animations stored? Have you guys cracked the format yet? (edited)

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:04 PM

Nope

I've been swapping animation files to get certain things working

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:04 PM

They were made in 3D studio-max if it helps

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:04 PM

That helps a lot

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:04 PM

So maybe hit up old-versions.com

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:04 PM

How do you know that?

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:04 PM

A dev told me ages ago

Omega12 13-Feb-18 02:05 PM

!

Boi

That's a big puzzle piece

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:05 PM

The discovery of the game made me go rummaging around my old emails, unfortunately that’s the only real info about the game itself he shared

The rest was bitching about saffire

OH

darkeluim 13-Feb-18 02:05 PM

but it think they compressed no ?

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:06 PM

and he explained to me how the toa cliff grab mechanic works.

He also explained how he accessed new levels, that is, by changing the save file with a hex editor. Not that it matters anymore, now that we have an actual menu

darkeluim 13-Feb-18 02:14 PM

@Galgo beside did you fixed you're problem?

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:15 PM

The transitions?

darkeluim 13-Feb-18 02:15 PM

yep

Galgo 13-Feb-18 02:15 PM

No but I think it’s a problem with my setup, I’ll reinstall

darkeluim 13-Feb-18 02:16 PM

ok because actually changing color settings worked in my case with same probleù..

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 09:14 PM

@Galgo any chance that dev you mentioned knows any other devs who may have the beta or any later version of the game?

Galgo 13-Feb-18 09:16 PM

nope, sorry

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 09:16 PM

all good

man im thinking what if someone with a disc sees whats going on and price gouges it on ebay or something

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:17 PM

I mean

At this rate we could crowdfund that shit pretty easily

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 09:17 PM

true, id gladly drop a 20 for the beta

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:17 PM

Just everyone in this discord alone could probably pool $500 or more

ShadowDraikana 13-Feb-18 09:18 PM

Changing toa to anything other than Onua and Gali causes the game to exit without a crash message. Even doing it in another character's native level won't work.

ShadowDraikana 13-Feb-18 09:33 PM

Can anyone here confirm this?

Galgo 13-Feb-18 09:34 PM

seems to be the case

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:36 PM

It's not really a priority considering it's a bug with the debug menu, so I'll put it on the minor bugs list

Galgo 13-Feb-18 09:37 PM

has anyone else had a problem with the water in gali's level?

Swordsworth 13-Feb-18 09:37 PM

ye (edited)

many have

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:37 PM

Depends on the problem

Swimming has A LOT of issues

Galgo 13-Feb-18 09:37 PM

has it worked normally for anyone?

the ruru can help you see around

Swordsworth 13-Feb-18 09:38 PM

doesnt work normally for me

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:38 PM

Sometimes you'll be stuck in a surface float with no way to dive. Using the grapple causes a death loop, jumping out of water causes animation slowdown, I can go on

Swimming is possibly THE single buggiest mechanic in this entire game

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 09:39 PM

@Galgo has anyone else had a problem with the water in gali's level? it's too cold (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:39 PM

Hell sometimes if you hit the water too hard you'll just blip out of existence entirely

Galgo 13-Feb-18 09:39 PM

one of the maps in onua's level is called ATRM or something like that right? well, that stands for Atruium, and apparently it was used to extensively test new features

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 09:40 PM

atrium; it's that underground room where you meet kapura

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:40 PM

Yeah

I was just gonna say that

Here's an interesting fact about that area btw

Galgo 13-Feb-18 09:40 PM

same difference!!!

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 09:40 PM

also has a lot of climbing

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:40 PM

You know the high up ridge with the lost bug right?

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 09:41 PM

missing platforms?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:41 PM

In the Beta there are platforms to get up there.

Galgo 13-Feb-18 09:41 PM

thali-waal or whatever?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:41 PM

But they aren't missing.

Deleted User 13-Feb-18 09:41 PM

what

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:41 PM

They aren't here, but they aren't MEANT to be here.

if you warp to the shrine, it has a number of branching caves, each with a mini challenge to unlock the door to the Vatuka Nui

From one of those caves, you actually exit out on top of that ridge.

Which is the intended way to get there.

My best guess is that the beta put platforms there either for demo, or debug purposes.

ShadowDraikana 13-Feb-18 09:42 PM

Yeah, I found that earlier

I did find something weird in one of the rooms; will be in the crash zone list I'm sending you.

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 09:43 PM

Aight

ShadowDraikana 13-Feb-18 10:57 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder Honestly how and where do I start with listing the areas that crash and the other buggy areas in that Github page?

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-Feb-18 11:03 PM

Create 1 issue for each crashing area? Like the door next to Kapura that causes a crash gets an issue. The wall digging in Nui-Jaga rooms gets an issue.

ShadowDraikana 13-Feb-18 11:07 PM

I think the digging wall issue is potentially thanks to missing files. Any software out there that might help with determining the cause of the crashes?

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-Feb-18 11:08 PM

Process Monitor can monitor file system requests. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon (edited)

Process Monitor - Windows Sysinternals

Monitor file system, Registry, process, thread and DLL activity in real-time.

If using Windows XP, I think you need an older version. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 13-Feb-18 11:11 PM

Would anyone here be able to make use of that information? I cam run this tomorrow in all the crash zones I located.

If that would help at all

Freerey 13-Feb-18 11:53 PM

What does it mean if something can monitor system requests?

Does it give you a list of processes as they happen?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-18 11:55 PM

Ye

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-18 12:35 AM

Couldn’t we get a Saffire dev who worked on the game to help us? They might know their game better than we do and probably have better programming experience after 17 years

Galgo 14-Feb-18 12:35 AM

I already sent an email

now we play the waiting game

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 08:30 AM

Kopaka's snowboarding stages are really strange. One I can't get to via warping, and that one has ice barriers you can break through. The other areas have ice you can't break. Also, most of the obstacles in Kopaka's level don't have a collision mesh, meaning you can walk through the pillars that shoot out of the walls.

Doctor U 14-Feb-18 08:50 AM

Is it as bad as in Bionicle the Game?

@ShadowDraikana

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-18 08:51 AM

I mean.

In its current state, the snowboarding controls far FAR worse

And I say "controls" with the most massive possible air quotes

Since you have about as much actual control over Kopaka as a lubed up jetski on a slip & slide

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 08:52 AM

@Doctor U I have the GC version of that one. It's not that bad I think.

Lol Vahkiti. Perfectly said.

Doctor U 14-Feb-18 08:53 AM

I am glad that we even have this game. I wonder if it's possible to one day to find The Game's beta versions with Onua and Lewa Mata stages that were shown on screenshota

I mean we found The Game sequel techdemo thing

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-18 08:56 AM

Lewa and Tahu's beta stages are in the PS2 version of BTG

But the format of the models is made for a previous version of the engine

So they won't ever load

Doctor U 14-Feb-18 08:57 AM

Okay

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-18 08:58 AM

BIONICLE Heroes has some unused models and levels too. One of the levels will load very briefly, but crash if you try to move into it.

Possibly because it's trying to reference one of the aforementioned unused models: Piruk

Doctor U 14-Feb-18 08:59 AM

And MNOG had Makuta worshipping tribe

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 09:03 AM

Warping into an underwater area allows for semi-normal movement.

No swimming

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-18 09:05 AM

Depends on the area.

The area of Ga-Kini is only accessible by warping IIRC, and it lets you swim

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 09:07 AM

Might be the only case of this though. I'll double check Gali's level again

I was admittedly using only Onua if that had something to do with it

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-18 09:08 AM

Gali's level is a neat case in a lot of aspects.

Despite being clearly unfinished with A LOT of placeholder and unanimated textures, only one of her levels actually crashes or softlocks.

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 09:09 AM

Yep. Kind of surprised me when I was going through the warp list.

There is a large chamber you can't warp to though

One cave you warp to puts you literaly next to the door to the chamber. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 10:23 AM

Some boss/sub-boss titles appear as XXX

Omega12 14-Feb-18 10:28 AM

I think only vutaka nui has an actual name

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 10:29 AM

Yeah. Just thought I'd point it out.

Doctor U 14-Feb-18 10:41 AM

So they didnt even name other elementals?

Omega12 14-Feb-18 10:42 AM

Nop

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 10:46 AM

at least not in this version

Also, they stuck the Nui-Jaga name in for the Spider King in Onua's level.

Shows up where the name should be with Spider King being displayed outside the black text area.

Doctor U 14-Feb-18 11:11 AM

Is Spider King the Fikou-Nui one?

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 01:27 PM

That would be the right name

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 03:22 PM

Filled in github page to cover all known crash areas in Onua's level. (edited)

JrMasterModelBuilder 14-Feb-18 03:52 PM

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 07:33 PM

Pohatu skips after scaling a ledge.

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 09:12 PM

Anyone able to confirm this?

Omega12 14-Feb-18 09:12 PM

proabbly

gali does a flip

and onua does a different flip

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 09:13 PM

I know, but Pohatu does a skip that is clearly a bug

makes the landing sound twice too

@V A H K I T I I think the crash in the ice maze area is actually MAZ1. If there's a corridor containing large cave mouths prior to it then this is Maz1. The small ice covered caves haven't crashed for me yet (though I ended up in a deathloop in one).

JrMasterModelBuilder 14-Feb-18 09:29 PM

Small update on Windows 10 issue: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/2#issuecomment-365808886 Surprisingly, it does not appear to be DirectX related. No solution yet. (edited)

Windows 10 compatibility? · Issue #2 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

Is this game Windows 10 compatible? I can't seem to get it to work on Windows 10.

Omega12 14-Feb-18 09:30 PM

.dll issue?

JrMasterModelBuilder 14-Feb-18 09:31 PM

Not sure. Need to find a way to script stepping over or something.

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-18 09:35 PM

I'll update the issues list with the major crashes listed in #litestone-announcements tomorrow.

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 12:04 AM

Alright, Windows 10 shuts down while executing the byte code in Base.osi https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/2#issuecomment-365826250 Still need to find out why. (edited)

Windows 10 compatibility? · Issue #2 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

Is this game Windows 10 compatible? I can't seem to get it to work on Windows 10.

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 03:20 AM

Almost found it: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/2#issuecomment-365848190 Further progress will have to wait until tomorrow.

Windows 10 compatibility? · Issue #2 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

Is this game Windows 10 compatible? I can't seem to get it to work on Windows 10.

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-18 09:02 AM

@JrMasterModelBuilder This is interesting: I got a different unhandled exception in the crash zone near Po-Koro (already have this in the github issues).

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-18 09:48 AM

Ok, so I tried messing with SvpOther, and it had no effect on texture rendering on my laptop. In fact, ALL levels are white unless I run Onua's level first. Haven't fully tested on my desktop, but it seemed to run normally regardless.

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-18 01:40 PM

Found another one: Starting BLR2 on the Kane-Ra causes a crash when he begins to charge UNLESS you move forward, jump, or do something other than let him stand idle.

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 01:49 PM

Yeah, I think SvpOther doesn't really do anything.

TheTokytot 15-Feb-18 06:45 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder Any progress on Windows 10 compatibility?

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 06:46 PM

Still working on it

Getting closer

TheTokytot 15-Feb-18 06:47 PM

That's fantastic news.

Deleted User 15-Feb-18 06:52 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder's inbox in a nutshell

2

5

1

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also this channel in a nutshell :y

Deleted User 15-Feb-18 07:40 PM

Anyway, I think this might be a useful document for anyone new to posting issues, be it a bug or attempting to solicit tech support: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro

That said, here's an issue I've been having https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/23

Terrain does not render when camera is above water. HUD and Text do not render at all. · Issue #23 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

The terrain on any given map (i.e. Data/Levels/[level]/[map]/Xs/main.x) does not render when the camera is above water, on the following specs: Gateway 702E OS: Windows XP Home v. 2002, SP3 w/ Dire...

Deleted User 15-Feb-18 08:01 PM

I tried it on XP SP3 with a Geforce FX 5200 and couldn't see the HUD and any text either. Everything else seemed fine, though I didn't play very far into it It worked fine without SvpRad = 1, and actually when I tried that the game just crashed. I think it had depth buffering working correctly, too Videos and some animations were also running too fast, even at 60hz with v-sync

should the hud/text issue be separate?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-18 08:07 PM

It seems to be a hardware issue and should probably go u der a specific issue thread for that type of problem

Deleted User 15-Feb-18 08:11 PM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/24

Text and HUD do not render. · Issue #24 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

With the exception of the dev menu, text, HUD, and other menu elements do not render at all. Tested on a Gateway 720E: OS: Windows XP Home v. 2002, SP3 w/ DirectX 9 CPU: Intel Pentium 4, 3.2GHz GPU...

done

Might wanna post a comment listing your specs as well

@ShadowDraikana

Omega12 15-Feb-18 08:25 PM

le-koro has a broken model

replacing it spawns you ina different location upon load

Deleted User 15-Feb-18 08:31 PM

when you say broken model, do you mean a broken mesh? missing textures?

Omega12 15-Feb-18 08:33 PM

broken as in wont open in direct x viewer

removing all models fromt he lv5 vllg folder will generate a new model when you load the level

new watr.x model

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-18 08:35 PM

@Deleted User Will do once I finish mapping these levls

@Omega12 That could explain the crash

Omega12 15-Feb-18 08:39 PM

it keeps making a new copy of missing files

it's so weird

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-18 08:39 PM

Bizarre

Deleted User 15-Feb-18 08:39 PM

why cant it make new copies of missing crash files

stupid biniocnicle

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 08:45 PM

Any Windows 10 users on who can run Procmon and confirm my findings?

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 09:27 PM

Based on my testing, Windows 10 is actually trying to load the front end rather than just the developer menu. Very strange.

Hexadecimal Mantis 15-Feb-18 09:39 PM

Hm. Very strange indeed.

I might look at it later

Deleted User 15-Feb-18 10:06 PM

so if we switch or delete the frontend code, or replace it with the menu, it would work?

maybe we should painstakingly study the deepbrick vid and any ToT prerenders with the map and try and recreate it

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 10:12 PM

Not sure how to fix it yet. It seems the byte code is doing something different on Windows 10 for some unknown reason. Need to find out why.

Deleted User 15-Feb-18 10:13 PM

if only there was an app that could analyze a video and construct an approximate 3d map

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:16 PM

alright guys, I'm about to start thoroughly going through the game

I haven't kept much track of the bugs that have been reported, but I have the github open on the other monitor here

and I'm gonna make sure something's been reported before I repeat anything

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:17 PM

Well we have a few fixes now

So some of the crashes have been solved

Namely: Le Koro, Pohatu's BLDR & BLR6, and Makuta's PST1

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:18 PM

oh yes, I'm gonna make sure I apply the first patch

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:18 PM

THat's not in the first patch yet

That'll be in the second

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:18 PM

v0.001

that's what I mean

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:18 PM

Yeah?

These aren't in that patch

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:18 PM

I'm gonan install that patch

oh

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:19 PM

For the time being just rename the xxx_SOUNDS.slb in those areas, or delete them entirely

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:19 PM

hm...alright

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:19 PM

If you encounter any other crashes, try doing the same thing for those areas.

If it doesn't work, document it, if it does, ditto

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:19 PM

got it

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:20 PM

I'm taking a break for dinner, but as far as I know, aside from the Kane Ra charge crash, Pohatu's level is now 100% playable

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:21 PM

niiice

and the fixes for Onua are gonna be in the next patch?

*Pohatu

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:22 PM

Not sure. I tried to see if the same fix worked on PZZL or the Nui Jaga cave and it did not (edited)

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:22 PM

well alright; have a good dinner then

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:22 PM

Thank

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 11:37 PM

Great, now the Windows 10 issue is being a Heisenbug. (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:37 PM

?

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-18 11:38 PM

"In computer programming jargon, a heisenbug is a software bug that seems to disappear or alter its behavior when one attempts to study it."

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:39 PM

Rip

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:42 PM

rofl

oh yeah so this is weird....in the patched version of the game, it has problems when I run it at a resolution lower than native

I go in full screen, but the game only shows up in the top-left corner

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:43 PM

Because the native is different now

Native is now 1024x768

Set the window size to 1360x768

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:44 PM

well alright; only problem there is now I have performance issues where I didn't before

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:44 PM

How so?

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:44 PM

the game's reactions are delayed

and when I go near the coast in Onua's level, things become noticeably slower

it's not a huge deal, but it is noticeable

I mean even down to the cutscenes....the sounds play just a split-second before the actions

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-18 11:46 PM

Never encountered that one before. o.O

Freerey 15-Feb-18 11:46 PM

and I mean I'm using the intended hardware here; all 2001 up in this bitch

but yeah if I use a resolution that's too low, I'll have the game show up in the corner and the rest of the screen will flicker

and starting up the game with the cutscenes is very flickery

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:41 AM

Okay so when I alt-tab out of the game, it doesn't crash

But when I go back, the game is suddenly really choppy

framerate is cut to 1/4 (edited)

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:42 AM

yeah it doesnt like alt tab

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:42 AM

That was fixed

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:42 AM

it also whitescreens and used to crash

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:42 AM

@Freerey Yeah, that happens, but apparently the high res patch also prevents it.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:42 AM

no I installed the patch to prevent the alt-tab problems

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:43 AM

Sounds like its not insalled right then

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:43 AM

nope did it wrong or else youd have the dancing bois

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:43 AM

there is no way I could've installed it "wrong"

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:43 AM

If you're still not seeing the matorian

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:43 AM

and alt tab fixed

dude uninstall it and do a fresh install

that way you eliminate anything else that could be going on

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:43 AM

New Windows 10 information: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/2#issuecomment-366148883 If anyone is familiar with this subject or any changes made about it on Windows 10, do speak up!

Windows 10 compatibility? · Issue #2 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

Is this game Windows 10 compatible? I can't seem to get it to work on Windows 10.

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:43 AM

antivirus deleting files maybe? just thought of it

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:43 AM

alright, alright

and no, I don't hvae antivirus on this thing

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:44 AM

@JrMasterModelBuilder so the exception isnt being handled properly? basically

windows isnt throwing it back at the program?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:45 AM

I guess? I'm not very familiar with Windows's internals.

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:45 AM

same

thats just what i got from it

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:46 AM

I don't really know what could be causing Windows 10 to have these issues

unless it has something to do with the MS store

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:46 AM

its not

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:46 AM

All I can figure is Windows 10 is consuming the exception and killing it for some reason. (edited)

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:46 AM

i looked up if we can force it back, results are for visual studio developing

so no external way so far ill keep looking tho

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:47 AM

visual studio developing? What does that mean

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:47 AM

yoooo what if we made the data/art/turnhead000.col as a dummy file and see if that fixes it

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

Tried that just now

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

like visual studio 2015

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

No dice

But I know what it relates to

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

oh?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

Yeah, if it does open it, it will try to read it.

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

visual studio is a program for writing in C#, idk if it also does C++

1

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

These parts of the HUD

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

but what do you mean by developing? You mean reweriting the game in visual studio?

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

@Freerey its what people use to develop code from scratch, cant edit afaik

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

turnhead0001 through turnhead0024.tga

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

visual studio is a bit too high-level for this kind of thing

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

Nah, more like poking around @Freerey

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:48 AM

oh okay

the only thing I can see working with visual studio is making a toolkit with it

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:49 AM

it just let's you read and compile the code

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:49 AM

People may have asked questions related to this behavior in the context of developing new apps with Visual Studio. (edited)

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:49 AM

yeah basically

thats what im finding

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:49 AM

I'm kinda hoping to develop the TES Construction set of LoMN in VS tbh

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:49 AM

oooh nice

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:49 AM

Good luck

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:50 AM

gonna be hard

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:50 AM

that's gonna take some time, but it would be an amazing end result

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:50 AM

with all these spooky file types floating around

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:50 AM

did we ever figure out what engine this thing is running in?

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:50 AM

i think we had a discussion that the closest it could be is army men sarges soldiers for dreamcast

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:50 AM

is it propritary, or could we indentify Quake or Unreal in there

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:50 AM

saffire made, released same year

idk what engine though

but that game is probably more accessible

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:51 AM

okay, well if we can find anywhere like... license details, or special named folders that might clue us into what engine it's using we might be in luck

IF it isn't just an inhouse engine then there might already be a lot of documentation on how to work with it

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:51 AM

Most game engine symbols are prefixed Sc, which I presume is an abbreviation for "Saffire Corporation", meaning custom. (edited)

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:52 AM

So you're thinking it's an inhouse engine?

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:52 AM

ill download sarges and see if i can decompress it, i think i read dreamcast uses normal iso files

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:52 AM

it used GD roms so I would assume so

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:52 AM

I think inhouse, yes.

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:52 AM

fuck

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:52 AM

Yeah

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:52 AM

well that's gonna set us back

we'll have to build all the modding tools and documentation from scratch

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:53 AM

damn it saffire just ported most of their games

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:53 AM

A lost of stuff is also prefixed Gc, but IDK what that stands for.

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:53 AM

gamecube?

it was planned

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:53 AM

that's what we're theorizing

but it makes no sense for Gamecube files to be in a pc build

just wasted disc space

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 12:54 AM

Might mean "Game Code"

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:54 AM

Not uncommon

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:54 AM

true

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:54 AM

Hereos has xbox and ps2 files

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:54 AM

huh

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:54 AM

hmm, well maybe I have no clue what I'm talking about

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:54 AM

but you cant take files from say ps2 bionicle the game and put them in the pc version right? its too different

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:55 AM

Well, I know that the offical obbriviation for the gamecube was the NGC or (GCN in europe)

so if they were building for a gamecube devkit, then they would probably use .NGC which would mean GC stands for something else

personal theory

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:56 AM

gcn was used in america as well iirc

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:56 AM

ah, my bad

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:56 AM

no prob

who knows though

did that saffire dev that someone contacted ever join up here?

or is that a dead end

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:57 AM

Ask @Galgo

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:57 AM

I wouldn't expect that to happen any time soon

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:57 AM

its like the new deepbrick i guess

talks through one guy for some reason

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:57 AM

I'm just glad that I'm here to see this all unflold, even if I can't be of any use

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:57 AM

same

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:58 AM

I can't even get the game to run, let alone understand the intricacies of datamining and patching

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:58 AM

yeah i know, the work everyone does is so incredible

datamining especially...i dont have the pateince

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:58 AM

Truely

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:58 AM

alright its almost 10 here and i got a test tomrow

so ima leave

good talk tho

Keatosis 16-Feb-18 12:58 AM

same

bye

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 12:58 AM

cya

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 12:59 AM

Night you two.

So @JrMasterModelBuilder I'm not too familiar with what's going on. Making a dummy file failed, but it is related to the head in the hud.

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 01:01 AM

Yeah, it's very strange.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 01:03 AM

okay well I uninstalled the game, rebooted the computer, reinstalled, added the patch, dancing Matoran still aren't there

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Feb-18 01:03 AM

Does the frontend even work at all?

from the debug menu

Freerey 16-Feb-18 01:04 AM

front end?

I tried it once and i tmade the game crash

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Feb-18 01:04 AM

I was asking @ JrMasterModelBuilder#5116 sorry

Freerey 16-Feb-18 01:04 AM

just tried again...same deal

oh rofl

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 01:04 AM

It does not

I guess since nobody's encountered other crash-free areas with the sound patch, I'[ll go ahead and zip that up

Freerey 16-Feb-18 01:07 AM

where are the dancing Matoran supposed to be?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 01:08 AM

I mean if you still can't see them then the patch isn't working.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 01:08 AM

are they just supposed to appear among all the other Matoran?

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Feb-18 01:10 AM

I'll try to get the frontend working. After that, ill see what happens on win10. (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 03:10 AM

Okay so I just found a weird bug

I was recording and I accentally alt tabbed

When I went back in and died, half of the scren transitions worked!

And I literally meen half. It only covers half the screen

But they are there! They just don't load normally for some reason...

@JrMasterModelBuilder

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 03:11 AM

Hmm

Galgo 16-Feb-18 07:19 AM

I asked him to join, he did day yes

ShadowDraikana 16-Feb-18 09:17 AM

@V A H K I T I You guys confirmed the Matatu doesn't work right?

Freerey 16-Feb-18 11:40 AM

-here's hoping patch 2 actually works-

how could the Matatu even work, though?

It would make sense if LoMN had a robust physics engine, but it doesn't

ShadowDraikana 16-Feb-18 11:43 AM

We'd need to update the engine somewhat. I'm curious to see how they handled it in the beta. Not sure if they found an effective way of implementing the Matatu.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:13 PM

there are ways of implementing physics, but it's tricky

technically Morrowind and Oblivion used the same engine, but Oblivion had more things added onto it--and as a result it was a much buggier mess

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 16-Feb-18 12:28 PM

Skyrim uses that same engine, but that's besides the point. I feel like matatu would be like the Pakari, and be used as a "key" for certain areas.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 12:43 PM

Yeah, that's all I can see it being used as

I just hate that it would be reserved for something so situational

but whatever...if that's what the developers intended, I can't argue with it

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 02:07 PM

@ShadowDraikana No it does not.

liquidelectricity 16-Feb-18 03:42 PM

Kopaka's level SNBD leads back to SHRN. Crossing the ice bridge crashes the game

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 03:43 PM

Kopaka's level is a warping clusterfuck all around tbh.

Doors that lead to different areas depending on which side you enter from, and backtracking crashes A LOT

Currently the known bugs list for crashing only includes areas accessible by normal gameplay. Once that barrier is broken, any subsequent areas will be added to the list based on the then current patch.

Eg: Lewa has one level that can't be warped to for crashing, but it's never encountered in normal gameplay

So there's no point in adding it

liquidelectricity 16-Feb-18 03:47 PM

gotcha. is TMBL in Onua's level glitched or is that just a devs idea of a cruel puzzel?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 03:47 PM

I assume that's the Lost Woods-esq area in the shrine challenges

Because no, that's not bugged

And it's not really cruel either unless you consider OOT's version cruel too.

liquidelectricity 16-Feb-18 03:50 PM

ha! it felt like the Charred Forest all over again. I gave up after 10 minutes. is there a solution or is it just random?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 03:50 PM

It's not RNG, IIRC it's far right, center, backtrack, left. (edited)

I'm not too sure about the last one, but there's definitely a door you have to backtrack through

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 04:36 PM

Windows 10 issue may actually be related to CloseHandle changes: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/2#issuecomment-366363681

Windows 10 compatibility? · Issue #2 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

Is this game Windows 10 compatible? I can't seem to get it to work on Windows 10.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 04:37 PM

Making it easier or harder to fix?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 04:38 PM

Might be fixable in that case. I don't have a lot of ASM to work with though to cram in some extra logic. Trying to find a way to automate testing it first. (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 04:38 PM

Just tell me what tools I need and I can help best I can (edited)

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 04:39 PM

At any rate, that function should probably be patched, even if it's not the only reason Win10 crashes (don't know yet). (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 04:40 PM

I mean, see what happens I guess? As I said, tell me what I need to do and I'll help out

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 04:42 PM

Ok, so the function address alignment gives me 11 extra bytes to work with, that should be enough I think. (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 04:44 PM

Ayy

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 04:44 PM

Just gotta figure out how to write an extra conditional jump. (edited)

Swordsworth 16-Feb-18 05:38 PM

okay

uhhhhhh

that's an interesting bug

I'm in Gali's level

jumped into the water

I hear three warning tones

and then I respawn

but gali's run animation speed is halved

so is the footstep sound

and the beach clips with the water FAR more (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 05:39 PM

THe animation slowdown bug is known

Swordsworth 16-Feb-18 05:39 PM

o

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:03 PM

6

1

I got it working on Windows 10! (edited)

Hang on while I document the patch.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:04 PM

THIS IS BIG

ShadowDraikana 16-Feb-18 06:05 PM

HUUUUUGE

Swordsworth 16-Feb-18 06:07 PM

CONGROOT

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:08 PM

Incidentally, Windows 10 in a VM works as well as other Windows version (so I still have graphics issues trying to play). (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:08 PM

How do?

ALso YAY I can finally move my fuckin media center PC back to the other side of the room where it belongs.

I've been actually surrounded by PCs since this all started last week.

My room is an absolute wreck

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 06:11 PM

worth it tho

so worth

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:11 PM

Higher quality streams now too

Since I won't be bottlnecked by my PVR's bitrate

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 06:11 PM

you guys are amazing, honestly cant believe you fixed it so much

do you recommend watching your old streams or is your new stuff way better?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:12 PM

Oh not the old streams are fine

Even of unrelated content.

Just my PVR is on the old side

So I'm bottlenecked to 720p60 or 1080p30@ 15,000kbps

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 06:13 PM

cool

well not the pvr the old streams

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:13 PM

Of thisgame or other content?

Cause I had to use the PVR for this game. COuldn't just do direct screen capture.

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 06:13 PM

nah im just saying cool i can watch all of them, sucks pvr is limited to 1080p 30

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:14 PM

I recorded the streams at 720p60 anyways. The resolution isn't an issue since for now, the viewport of the game is hard coded to 1024x768 max

So even if the internal is 1080p, it's still going to downscale it

The only real benefit to streaming on my main PC is a higher bitrate

So @JrMasterModelBuilder, how do? Everyone's clambering for this. xP

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-Feb-18 06:18 PM

OMG THANKS SO MUCH

sry 4 caps, really excited

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:18 PM

Here's the patch documented: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/2#issuecomment-366386645 (edited)

Windows 10 compatibility? · Issue #2 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

Is this game Windows 10 compatible? I can't seem to get it to work on Windows 10.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:19 PM

I'll prep 0.003!

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:20 PM

BTW, this should also be fine for other Windows versions, no downsides. (edited)

benji 16-Feb-18 06:21 PM

sick asm work!

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:23 PM

It works!

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 06:23 PM

Unbelievable. That is simply astounding.

JMMB, you sure this ain't you?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:26 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/G3fPad8N68GfS/giphy.gif

2

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 06:26 PM

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:30 PM

Getting a weird window mode bug here

Freerey 16-Feb-18 06:30 PM

so the windows 10 fix requires a hex editor?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:30 PM

Well once the patch is out, no

Freerey 16-Feb-18 06:30 PM

ok

this is gonna be so good for a lot of us

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:31 PM

Not just window mode

@JrMasterModelBuilder, using this with the current patched EXE. THoughts?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:31 PM

Must be a different Windows 10 issue? (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:32 PM

Did you use your fix on the patched EXE or the original?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:32 PM

The original, but it shouldn't matter.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:32 PM

Try it on the patched one and see if it still does it

Freerey 16-Feb-18 06:34 PM

my screen does that same thing during in-game cutscenes

like it's trying to be widescreen but only the botom part of hte screen is blac

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:35 PM

Well we'll worry about that later I guess. Let's just get the patch out there as is and deal with viewport bugs later

Cause that's something @JrMasterModelBuilder still needs to address for other reasons

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:36 PM

Wait, I think there might be an error.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:36 PM

Shall I hold off for a moment?

Freerey 16-Feb-18 06:36 PM

so just to be clear...the windows 10 issue is entirelly because of base.osi?

that would be the only thing I need to manually configure?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:36 PM

Does it seem to be acting odd at all in the menu for you?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:36 PM

No

Freerey 16-Feb-18 06:36 PM

It acts weird for me in the main menu

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:37 PM

What is it doig for you?

Both of you

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:37 PM

I couldn't seem to close the game.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:37 PM

I mean

It always crashes if you hit quit

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:37 PM

Different than usual.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 06:39 PM

For me it doesn't crash (anymore) when I hit quit in the esc menu, but it does crash when I hit quit in the main menu

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:39 PM

Well yeah

That's what I meant

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:39 PM

Maybe it was just my imagination/Windows acting odd. (edited)

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 06:41 PM

did you know that tile interface they introduced with 8 was originally designed in powerpoint?

Freerey 16-Feb-18 06:41 PM

well technically it was introduced in Windows Phone 7, but rofl no I didn't

it makes sense though.....ms uses their own products to build other products

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 06:42 PM

on the other hand, powerpoint doesn't strike me as a good way to design a ui, if you're meaning to implement it, at least

benji 16-Feb-18 06:42 PM

IMHO Paint's where it's at

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:45 PM

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:45 PM

VM?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:45 PM

I'm not seeing the letter boxing with the patch applied on the original EXE. (edited)

Granted, it is a VM, and the graphics are whacked.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:46 PM

Probably a viewport issue then.

Which you still need to figure out anyways

Cause of the downscaling

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:46 PM

I'm contemplating an updated patch for the resolution thing too.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:46 PM

Well yeah, I just explained why that's needed.

Cause it's still compressing the viewport to 1024x768

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 06:47 PM

Will ignore the possible Win10 letter boxing until after that patch, see if it goes away.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 06:47 PM

Or 4:3

Ye

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:11 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder Can you do me a huge favour?

Figure out a way to get the debug menu to stop flipping out? I can't for the life of me test the srhine on Win 10 cause it all moves too fast

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 07:16 PM

Yeah, also gotta do something about that. Either AHK or maybe an ASM fix if possible.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:16 PM

@ShadowDraikana Rip

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:16 PM

rofl much like mnog before it, this game runs really fast on win10

like the animations for the UDD logos, items, and even the clouds in the sky are sped up like they're on steroids

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:17 PM

One neat thing about this fix though.

Compatibility mode is no longer needed

So that's incidentally fixed too

@JrMasterModelBuilder

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 07:18 PM

Compatibility mode on what OS?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:18 PM

Win 10

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 07:19 PM

Still needs write access to the folder though, to save. Compatibility mode does this, but it can be done with permissions. (edited)

Galgo 16-Feb-18 07:19 PM

Will running as an administrator fix it then?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 07:19 PM

Yeah

Galgo 16-Feb-18 07:20 PM

Thanks

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 07:20 PM

Or giving yourself write permissions on the folder.

Or running it from your user directory where you already have permissions. (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:20 PM

Anyways, deeefinigtely need that debug menu fix ASAP

I tried autohotkey before

But it wouldn't accept commands

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:23 PM

oh yeah I thought the patches you guys released would be incrementally built on top of the last

as in, patch 3 would have the fixes of patches 1 and 2, as well

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:24 PM

And it does

Okay, I took my own suggestion and manually replaced the files. Got the shrine and okama working. @ShadowDraikana

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:24 PM

is there something I'm missing with the dancing Onu-Matoran, then?

cause I installed onto a different machine (the one running windows 10) and they still don't show up with the others

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:24 PM

Delete all the files that the pach replaces manually and install it again

That should work

Idk why it has trouble properly overwriting.

Any suggestions @JrMasterModelBuilder ?

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:25 PM

I mean when I unzip and Windows asks if I want to replace thef iles, I click "Yes to all"

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:26 PM

Same, but sometimes that doesn't cut it for some reason.

So you have to do it manually like I keep saying

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 07:31 PM

I'm sure you guys already know about this, but I found it funny upon jumping back in.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:31 PM

Try setting svpother to 1 or 2 in the INI

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 07:31 PM

Okie dokie.

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 07:35 PM

the onu matorans missing pick is white, missing the textures the other miners picks have

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:36 PM

Common issue from day 1

2

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:43 PM

well I mus thave some kind of curse or soemthing, cause the dancers still won't show up

I'll look more into it tomorrow

also there was one point where I first entered Onu-Koro and the tunnel ended by putting me in some bottomless void

this was supposed to be the entrance to Onu-Koro, but then I found the tunnel led to nowhere

But I gave it a moment and it loaded the cutscene where Onua goes into the village and meets Whenua

The funny thing is that once I was given control of ONua in Whenua's hut, I was just a floating mask for a second

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:45 PM

That's a weird one.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:45 PM

it's like part of the tunnel didn't load,b ut I went ahead anyway to see wehre the void would take me

oh and this is just a little thing that's probably already been reported on, but I'm playing the game at 1920x1080, and the textures on moving 3d objects (such as the player) are very flickery...kinda like in Quake

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:47 PM

That's normal at any res

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:47 PM

it wasn't doing it that bad in 1024x768, though

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:47 PM

The game has a distinct lack of anti-aliasing and buggy object intersection

Maybe you just didn't notice it?

Low res and all

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:47 PM

eh maybe it was just more noticeable, yeah

plus on my other PC I was playing on VGA

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 07:51 PM

@Freerey i cant see the dancer either, i see the shadow of one and when i talk to the shadow he appears in the cutscene but the others are still missing/invisible somewhere, i even removed read only from folder and replaced individually. idk what the problem is tho

Freerey 16-Feb-18 07:51 PM

oh wait that's what those shadows are??

cause I see some shadows and when I walk into them there's a collision, but I thought those were rocks or something

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 07:54 PM

nope, its the dancers, if you talk to the empty space it opens the scene

what gpu do you have

maybe thats it

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 07:58 PM

Played through Lewa's level up to Le-Koro, went to do the Takara and at the end of it the game crashed.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:59 PM

Yeah, cause Matau's hut doesn't load

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 07:59 PM

"Load Game," and here we are. Adjusted SVPOther and same result.

Oooooh.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:59 PM

The one area that doesn't work

But you can still finish the level

Lewa doesn't render in the takara anyways

Like Kopaka and Gali

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 07:59 PM

Yeah... Found that out the hard way.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 07:59 PM

We're working on it.

@Omega12 got Tohunga rendering in Kopaka's. (edited)

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:00 PM

welp I got the dancers to work!

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:00 PM

Noice!

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:00 PM

but like..they're invisible when I approach them

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:00 PM

O_o

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:00 PM

in some of the dialogue views I actually see them

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 08:00 PM

I believe in you guys. You can do it! In the meantime, what is the workaround here with this grey stuff? Warping?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:00 PM

Oh

That was normal

When they dance they're invisible

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:00 PM

oh ok

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

Did you try my suggestion?

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

sorry, what would that be?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

@Eljay Johnsen Gray stuff? The all wait level bug you mean?

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

freerey

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

@Freerey "NOTE: On some PCs there seems to be a problem with files overwriting. If that happens, and you don't see these fixes, delete the files and folders that the patch replaces manually, and reinstall the patch."

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

they are invisible in the village but appear in the dance room

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

.-.

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

so if you talk to all of them then do the dance room you can see them dancing

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

No they're supposed to work in the village now with the last patch

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

oh yeah Vahkiti, I did that

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 08:01 PM

oh

ok

i did the same thing btw and it didnt work, ill try again tho

fresh install here i come

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:02 PM

Actually I can see them dancing during the cutscene

it's just when I approach them is when they're invisible

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 08:02 PM

(Re: Grey everything) Aye, in the above photo that's how the game looks. Restarts and adjusting the SVPOther have yielded no change.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:02 PM

also Eljay, that seems to be a graphics card problem

I had the same thing happening with my computer until I updated the drivers

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:02 PM

Try restarting the game, going to Onuas level, and then to another

Or that

^

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 08:03 PM

Oooh, that wouldn't surprise me. My graphics card drivers are outdated on purpose due to an issue with Overwatch that has allegedly been fixed.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:03 PM

oh rofl

Eljay Johnsen 16-Feb-18 08:03 PM

Fair enough, I'll give that a shot! Thank you!

Lemme try the Onua level thing first though. Less downloading that way.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:03 PM

ok good news: I was able to make it out of Whenua's hut

I was stuck for a moment

made it to the oasis

btw, PrtScn doesn't seem to work with this game

I wanted to send some screenshots but blah

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:05 PM

DOn't bother with the Nui Jaga section. THat can't be finished.

Instead use the debug menu to give yourself the long claw shot and proceed up the cliff in that area

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:06 PM

the debug menu doesn't work for me

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:06 PM

Once you beat the fikou nui, you can go back to the oasis and grapple up to the tall ledge to proceed

Try adding the line cheat=LEGOTester to the bottom of the INI (edited)

Sometimes it resets for no reason

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:07 PM

line's already been added

btw I fuond Kapura

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 08:10 PM

no one expects kapura

hmm, so throughout the game, he wanders the island

and he wears a pakari

...could he have been related to takua somehow?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:12 PM

Fuck now I'm having issues getting the dancers working on Win 10, wat

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 08:13 PM

loool

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:13 PM

Okay I figured it out

Deleted User 16-Feb-18 08:13 PM

Try paying them

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:13 PM

YOu have to replace the WHOLE anims directory for the dancer. Not just the files that are already in there.

There are 55 files and the patch has 49

Meaning the remaining ones need to be deleted

I.. don't know how to make this into the patch.

I could dummy out those other files

Maybe

Roy8012 16-Feb-18 08:15 PM

so deleting the files that aren't replaced by the patch?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:15 PM

Yeah

I'll work on dummying out those files so the patch will actually fucking work.

Freerey 16-Feb-18 08:16 PM

huehue and the jaga level crashed...shoulda listened

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:18 PM

Ooookay

Dummying out those files caused a crash

Hm

Roy8012 16-Feb-18 08:18 PM

yep i see them dancing now

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:18 PM

How can I make a zip file that overwrites a directory with another one containing FEWER files instead of merging the two?

The only thing I can think of is to actually write an installer for future patches

Which isnt IMPOSSIBLE. I did it for MNOG CE

I just need to relearn what I forgot 3 years ago.

ShadowDraikana 16-Feb-18 08:24 PM

@V A H K I T I Where was the crash?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:24 PM

?

ShadowDraikana 16-Feb-18 08:25 PM

You posted a screenie earlier with a crash

and tagged me

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:25 PM

Oh, don't worry about it, I figured it out (edited)

ShadowDraikana 16-Feb-18 08:26 PM

What was the issue?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:26 PM

I just didn't install the patch right I guess

I'm going to make an installer for future patches just to try and idiotproof this process a little better

IIRC I can have an installer delete a chosen directory before attempting to overwrite it

Which will fix 90% of the problems people have with the patches (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:40 PM

Okay, making an installer with installforge, I can have it run a command to delete the folder before copying in the new data (edited)

That SHOULD do the trick

ShadowDraikana 16-Feb-18 08:40 PM

Cool

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 16-Feb-18 08:53 PM

No idea how it happens but the mask power sound gets stuck sometimes, untill the entire process is closed.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 08:57 PM

Weird

ShadowDraikana 16-Feb-18 10:00 PM

Found a new issue: Le-Koro's MOSH causes the player to fall out of the map and enter a deathloop. In order to have this thoug, you'd need to do some file changing to get Matau'a hut to work.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 10:21 PM

Another bug I found btw. Not sure if it's this patch specific, but if the game is not run as admin, it'll throw an exception when you go through a door.

It does this because it can't access the save.

Any way we can mod the EXE to run with R/W privilages by default?

I know the EXE determines WHERE the save is placed. If nothing else, we could maybe try for that.

Move the location to Documents/Games like some games do

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 10:23 PM

Maybe.

The game also wants write access to create Bionicle.ini though.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 10:24 PM

True

I mean

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 10:24 PM

And that log file.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 10:24 PM

We could have it move that too

Whichever is easier to do (edited)

Have it store all its saves and configs under Appdata

Heroes does that

Also, regarding the fast 2D animations. You said that was CPU related right?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 10:25 PM

Fast 2D animations?

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 10:26 PM

It's a lot more common on Win 10, but the game runs the animations of water, sky, HUD elements at near quadruple speed

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Feb-18 10:26 PM

Oh, I don't know, maybe.

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 10:30 PM

Gonna work on the FMV fix (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 10:41 PM

WHelp my idea didn't work

So the resolution fix fucks up the FMVs in a way I don't know about.

All the more reason for @JrMasterModelBuilder to update I guess.

The Shadow Emperor 16-Feb-18 10:59 PM

is it common for background music to continue playing after you've turned the game off

V A H K I T I 16-Feb-18 11:02 PM

Ye

Swert 17-Feb-18 12:35 AM

got this little number

after adding -nointro to the shortcut

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 12:36 AM

Running in compatibility mode and admin?

Swert 17-Feb-18 12:37 AM

I can try again

same issue

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 12:39 AM

:|

Compatible mode for xP right?

Swert 17-Feb-18 12:40 AM

running 98 SE compatibility

tried XP already, same result

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 12:40 AM

Try updating your gpu drivers?

Swert 17-Feb-18 12:40 AM

first off, what GPU?

second

it's up to date

had to update 'em for the new monitor to work 100% properly

here's a neat screenshot btw

actually it won't let me screenshot this

oh there we go

so yeah, I think it's just beyond broken for me

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 12:43 AM

That's normal with the upres fix until @JrMasterModelBuilder fixes it. :V

Swert 17-Feb-18 12:43 AM

k

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 12:43 AM

Only applies to the fmvs

Swert 17-Feb-18 12:43 AM

how does one window mode it again?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 12:43 AM

Dxwnd

Swert 17-Feb-18 12:43 AM

-window did nothing in the shortcut

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 12:43 AM

Who fixes the fixes? :V

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 12:44 AM

Yeah, the game does not natively support windowed mode. I'm trying to figure out how to patch it back in, if possible.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 12:44 AM

If we could get frontend to work without the background model, the options might work

Swert 17-Feb-18 12:44 AM

yep

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:00 AM

still can't get it windowed

probably doing it wrong

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 01:01 AM

I may not be the only one but every time I try to launch the game it closes the game out on me

so ummm help?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:01 AM

Did you install the patch?

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 01:01 AM

where's that?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:02 AM

#litestone-announcements

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 01:02 AM

look I'm new here

sorry if I'm like this

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:03 AM

Nah it's fine, I'm just tired and I'm getting a lot of people who just aren't reading before doing things. I apologize

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 01:03 AM

it's okay

it's not my first time having an emoji response

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:03 AM

Rip.

@Swert Same error?

@Deleted User I'm guessing you came from YouTube btw? The one place I don't have the patches in the descriptions so far I think.

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 01:07 AM

yes and no

I came from youtube from a video

and then I found this server from another bionicle game development server

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:07 AM

Ah okay.

In that case I'll just update the welcome channel to point to patches as well

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 01:08 AM

alright

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:08 AM

yeah same error

I can't even get it to run in dxwnd

it just wants to run itself again

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:09 AM

?

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:09 AM

look it may be obvious but

you guys didn't exactly put cliffs notes on how to configure it :v

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:09 AM

I mean, it SHOULD work out of the box. The only tweaks necessary are for mouse lock

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:09 AM

again

I added the game to dxwnd

I try to configure it to work

I hit run in the box

it goes to fullscreen

disregarding everything I set

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:10 AM

Let's see a screencap of your settings. Just feed it the EXE in both the path and launch box and that's all you need to do normally to get it to run.

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:10 AM

keep in mind

I checked Fullscreen only AFTER 6 attempts

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:11 AM

Why is the EXE icon an x? O_o

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:11 AM

good question

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:11 AM

Does it run properly without dxwnd?

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:11 AM

oh it's because of the -nointro

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:12 AM

Oh

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:12 AM

so this might work now?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:12 AM

Yeah that goes in launch, not path

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 01:12 AM

Not sure if you want these kinds of bugs reported, but when pressing space while picking up the miner's axe as Onua, you can restart the "Hold up item" animation everytime, and extend that sequence as long as you want

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:12 AM

THAT I forgot to mention

@(Team Kanohi) ASCII Now THAT'S a new one. O_o

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:12 AM

still not working anyway

it's now fullscreen again

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:13 AM

.-.

Does it work okay without DXWnd?

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:13 AM

I mean

it runs, but it crashes

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:13 AM

Crashes when?

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:13 AM

once it hits the menu

I assume

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:13 AM

With or without nointro?

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:13 AM

it can load the intro, but it's rendered improperly

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:14 AM

I've had at least a few reports of the FMVs causing a crash

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:14 AM

when using nointro it just throws up that exception I screenshotted earlier

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:14 AM

That makes no sense. .-.

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:14 AM

welcome to my world

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:14 AM

Try a clean install? That's all I can think of

Swert 17-Feb-18 01:16 AM

eh, at this point it isn't worth it

the fact I'm running an Intel probably has something to do with it

you did mention that was giving you issues

but I do appreciate you guys trying to get it working ^^

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 01:28 AM

I'll try my best to help you a little more tomorrow if you want.

@JrMasterModelBuilder I found an external workaround for the fast animations issue.

It's not CPU linked. Rather the game itself has no frame limiter

Using Rivatuner to limit the game to 60fps fixes the issue.

Otherwise it averages around 200fps.

And the animations of 2D objects are all fast n' shit

Not sure if there's any way to code in a frame cap, but I'll leave that to you to address whenever you're able

Framelimit also makes the debug menu easier to navigate.

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 01:37 AM

I got it working, the cutscenes are kinda messed up but it still plays

Sick

which is a good thing

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:01 AM

I didn't see this anywhere, but completing Onua's mangaia platforming level throws an exception

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:04 AM

You can actually COMPLETE that normally? O_o

I was convinced there wasn't enough time

On stream I ended up debugging in the long claw shot to do it.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:04 AM

I found a way

But yes, walking through the doorway starts a load and then crashes

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:05 AM

Man

You NEED to record that shit.

Clips or it didn't happen m8.

(edited)

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:06 AM

You wanna see it then

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:06 AM

DAMN RIGHT. xD

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:06 AM

alright, I'll post a video haha

Watch my speedrunning skillz boi

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:06 AM

I managed to get all the way through Lewa's vine swinging, Gali's Rua climb, and Tahu's lava caves. And that shit stumped me (edited)

THIS I HAVE to see.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:06 AM

You're going to love this

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:15 AM

Got it

Just gotta edit and upload it

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:23 AM

https://youtu.be/JMscEynRVf0

Zachary Ledbetter

Any% Speedrun World Record Legend of Mata Nui Level7 Onua Run

I'm mostly joking. With no time to spare, I'm the first person to publicly complete Onua's platforming section in level 7, using a glitch I've found in the F...

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:24 AM

WOah woah woah

How did you get the screen transitions working? O_o (edited)

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:25 AM

I downloaded the latest patch?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:25 AM

Those have been broken for literally everyone. We don't know what broke those ad they haven't been fixed. O_o

@JrMasterModelBuilder

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:26 AM

hmmm

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:26 AM

Also THAT RUN IS SUCH BEANS HOLY SHIT.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:26 AM

I tried my hand at a few solutions myself

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:26 AM

Fuckin warp speed swing from the grapple, damn

That is impressive

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:27 AM

Thank you lol

So no one else has screen wipes?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:27 AM

Half for your gameplay, and half that it's even programmed to DO that

Nope

I had them HALF work last night after an alt tab glitch

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:27 AM

Let me test something really quickly

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:27 AM

But prior to that, we thought they weren't even in this build

Aight

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:31 AM

@V A H K I T I Can you show me what the default root folder for "LEGO Bionicle" looks like?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:32 AM

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:35 AM

Boy, I think you're in for a treat

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 02:36 AM

@(Team Kanohi) ASCII and I just did a little problem-solving. See that "dgVoodoo" in the corner of his screen in the video? That's a wrapper for old graphics APIs.

http://dege.freeweb.hu/

I bet you that's why his wipes are working.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:37 AM

When I got the game, I did some research and found that, but I'm on windows 10 so I couldn't test it. It's used for older games like madden '01

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 02:37 AM

Hmmm. I'll give it a whirl on Windows 7 and see what's up.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:38 AM

I feel like I have better rendering too?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:38 AM

So that's not what's fixing the wipes then?

Or it is?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:38 AM

I think it is

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 02:38 AM

We'll find out!

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:38 AM

^

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:38 AM

Any special settings differeing from the default?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:39 AM

I set the appearance to windowed I think

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:39 AM

I'm also not sure how to run a game thorugh this tbh

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 02:39 AM

Given the fact that LoMN wants DX8, I'm going to give 2.5.1 a shot. I'll work my way up from there if it goes bonkers.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:39 AM

@(Team Kanohi) ASCII

How do?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:40 AM

Uh hold on lol. You for sure extract the data files to the games directory

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 02:40 AM

Huh boy. Speaking of false-positives. One moment!

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:42 AM

https://classicgamefixes.wixsite.com/home/madden-nfl-2001

Matt's Classic PC Gaming

Tips and tricks for making old PC games work on Windows 8/10

I just followed this tutorial where applicable (edited)

I set the DirectX settings to be 4k and 8x msaa, seems to make a huge difference

I can't seem to prt sc and get a screenshot

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:47 AM

I can't get windowd working through it. Can you?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:47 AM

No I cannot

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:48 AM

Do you run the game with dgvodoo running?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:48 AM

I wan't when I recorded that video

Dgvoodoo is definitely the reason for this greatness. Hold on

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:50 AM

Yeah this isn't working a all for me

Oh damn

Now it works

And does that filtering ever fix the issues holy crap

And yeah

That DOES fix the wipes

Huh

@JrMasterModelBuilder you getting all this?

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 02:54 AM

Huh?

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 02:54 AM

Patch 0.0005 inbound

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:54 AM

DGvoodoo fixes the lack of screen wipes and texture filtering (edited)

Rivatuner limits the FPS to fix the fast animations

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:55 AM

Nosettings vs. 4k resolution, 8x MSAA, Force anisotropic 16x, bilinear blit stretch, and apply phong

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 02:55 AM

May I ask what version of dgVoodoo was used and which directory you generated the conf to?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:55 AM

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:55 AM

AND since it doesn't need to run at the same time as the game

This can be included in a patch, yes

I used the latest

Generated the conf to the BIONICLE install

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 02:56 AM

What's going on?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:56 AM

I literally just explained. xD

"DGvoodoo fixes the lack of screen wipes and texture filtering(edited) Rivatuner limits the FPS to fix the fast animations"

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:56 AM

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 02:56 AM

screen wipes?

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 02:56 AM

I see you're on Windows 10 as well. I'll report back with Windows 7 results shortly.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:56 AM

The death screen transitions

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 02:57 AM

Oh

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:57 AM

Apparently that's just a compatability issue

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 02:57 AM

texture filtering?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:57 AM

You know how everything around is pixelated?

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 02:57 AM

Yeah

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:57 AM

It's not supposed to look like that you know.

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 02:57 AM

Ok

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:57 AM

This ain't a PS1 game my dude.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 02:58 AM

Disabling "application contolled fullscreen" and setting appearance to windowed lets you do windowed mode by the way

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:58 AM

OH DAMN

Uh

Okay I can't printscreen apparently

But this fixes the letterboxing issue too

Set force resolution in dgvoodoo

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 02:59 AM

Rats. I'm having no luck with Windows 7.

Could I have a copy of that D3D8.dll?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 02:59 AM

@(Team Kanohi) ASCII YOU ARE MY HERO RIGHT NOW

LIKE SERIOUSLY

@Shinebox It's in the MS folder with Dgvoodoo

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:00 AM

Right on. Thanks.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:00 AM

HOT DAMN IT DOES WORK

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:00 AM

Wat

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:00 AM

This also fixes the FPS issues

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:00 AM

pls patch

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:00 AM

THIS FIXES

SO MUCH SHIT

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:01 AM

pls patch instalr

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:01 AM

Bingo. @V A H K I T I important detail here: D3D8.dll must be in the root folder of the LEGO Bionicle.exe for dgVoodoo to do its thing.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:01 AM

Yayyy I contributed!

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:01 AM

If D3D8.dll isn't present in the root folder, dgVoodoo doesn't load up. (edited)

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:01 AM

This makes the next patch so easy

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:02 AM

Thanks to @Shinebox pointing out that I was using dgvoodoo

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:02 AM

Because this program just runs with the game instead of needing to be in the background

This knocks out like.. 5 different graphical issues ALL IN ONE GO

We don't even need DXWnd anymore (edited)

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:03 AM

Out of curiosity, did D3D8.dll automatically place itself in the root folder for you two?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:03 AM

LOOK AT THAT PROPERLY FILTERED WATER AND ANTIALIASED POLYGONS

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:03 AM

I had to copy it over from the MS folder.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:03 AM

HOT DAMN

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:04 AM

I think I did as well

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:04 AM

It did not no

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:04 AM

Gotcha. Good to know.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:04 AM

it WILL in the patch tho!

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:04 AM

pls giv

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:04 AM

Now if only we could get the z-buffer and polygon intersection issues dealt with

This game would actually LOOK presentable (edited)

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:05 AM

I'm wondering how much of that is code and what may be art

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 03:13 AM

Does this also fix the windowed mode thing? (edited)

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:14 AM

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:14 AM

It does yes

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 03:14 AM

Via INI or something else?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:14 AM

You just configure it with DGVoodoo

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 03:14 AM

Ah

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:14 AM

You can't really do anything with the window, because there's no mouse lol

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:15 AM

You can use DGVoodoo to change the position however

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 03:16 AM

Basically, you just include a DLL in the game folder?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:17 AM

Ye

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:17 AM

Just a heads-up: some of the files dgVoodoo generates get flagged. I don't know exactly how to work around this.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:17 AM

And the program

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:17 AM

Looking good

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:17 AM

It's because it's a modded DLL

It flags for the same reason a keygen would

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:18 AM

Gotcha. I have one more thing of interest:

I'm sure this is already known, but I can print from the main menu.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:19 AM

Huh

Shinebox 17-Feb-18 03:22 AM

I don't want to wake anyone up, so I can't actually see the quality of the prints until 6 or 7AM rolls around, but it looks like it's working just fine.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:22 AM

Ayyyy

I also just had an idea

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:24 AM

Go on!

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:24 AM

I could be completely wrong, but I'm wondering if the objects rendering through each other isn't a bug in the rendering sense, but those objects have an akaku filter or something on them. Do we know if the akaku has code or implementation? I was jokingly saying to myself that it's like the akaku is on all the time, then it wasn't really a joke. (edited)

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:25 AM

............

I MEAN

AS FAR AS WE KNOW IT DOES NOTHING

BUT MAYBE IT DOES EVERYTHING

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:26 AM

Given the simple nature of the bugs we've had so far...

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:26 AM

Not sure how we'd go about testing that tho

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 03:27 AM

Me neither. Until we can really examine scripts and the like, it's hard to say (edited)

Alright, time for bed. I'm glad I was able to help!

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:33 AM

Night! ^-^

OH DAMN

Unchecking the disable alt enter in DGVoodoo

LETS YOU TOGGLE FULL SCREEN OR WINDOW MODE

We now have on the fly switching without external applications bois

@JrMasterModelBuilder

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 03:38 AM

Neat

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:40 AM

@V A H K I T I

here's one

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:41 AM

Oh

That's normal

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:41 AM

Is it?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:41 AM

You're running an editor program unelevated and trying to save a file to a restricted area

You need to save it somewhere else and copy manually, or run notepad/paint.net as admin (edited)

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:42 AM

Unelivated? :O

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:42 AM

Ye

As in not run as admin

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:43 AM

I think I'm just cpu stupid. Why didn't I think of that?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 03:44 AM

Aurora 17-Feb-18 03:44 AM

:O Holy shit it worked

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 04:01 AM

probably should've not used the install directory

usually better to make a copy and use that

Thi' 17-Feb-18 06:37 AM

@V A H K I T I Did the 4th patch include the 3rd, 2nd and 1st one ?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 06:47 AM

Ye

@JrMasterModelBuilder If you could figure out the FMV bug and the black bar bug that the Win 10 patch caused sometime tomorrow, I can release v0.005. Is that something you can fit into the schedule of whatever you're working on now? :3

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Feb-18 06:59 AM

Is the Nui Jaga fix gonna be in 0.005?

omegalucas 17-Feb-18 07:08 AM

I think the black bar bug (assuming you mean the little black bar in the bottom of the screen) has to do with wide-screen

I set resolution to 1440x1080 (1080p 4:3) and it disappeared

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 07:09 AM

Right, but it wasn't a problem at all prior to the Win 10 patch

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) Unlikely

omegalucas 17-Feb-18 07:09 AM

You sure? I'm pretty sure I've seen it before in several videos

Before this patch

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 07:11 AM

Wasn't in any of mine

Syobnaf 17-Feb-18 11:08 AM

Not sure if anyone else has seen this, but I'm running the game on win 8, and pre patch the intro video worked but after the patch, the intro video looks all glitchy (it's overlaid over itself on a bar at the top of the screen). Game still works though

EvilJagaGenius 17-Feb-18 11:19 AM

^this is happening to me on win10

Freerey 17-Feb-18 11:59 AM

So there's a part in Pohatu's quest where there are a bunch of red dots in a straight line and a pillar he has to jump to. (edited)

If I die when attempting to jump on the pillar, I'll be unable to respawn

....aand right as I said that, I alt+tabbed back and Pohatu's fine

still though, it wouldn't respond earlier

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 12:00 PM

Never had an issue there

Freerey 17-Feb-18 12:03 PM

And I just had a problem where opening the Help menu in Pohatu's level froze the game

well I jumped with the Kane-Ra right as as I was about to enter the second area with it and the game crashed

Unhandled Exception c0000005 at 0057b84b

save file won't open now

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 12:09 PM

That area crashes seemingly at random

Freerey 17-Feb-18 12:09 PM

weeird

how do I talk to the maskless Matoran in ga-wahi?

nvm I found it

Okay so after I open the gate to ga-koro, I see a couple of Matoran and a shadow--and there is an invisible object in the path

I can walk around it no problem, but still...there's a rock in there or something

and Gali will collide with it

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 12:16 PM

Screenshot

if possible

Freerey 17-Feb-18 12:17 PM

I can't

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 12:17 PM

Might need to look at that

Freerey 17-Feb-18 12:17 PM

I have tried but prtscn doesn't work on this game

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 12:17 PM

hit prtscn and then copy/past the image into paint or something

Freerey 17-Feb-18 12:17 PM

I just said it doesn't work

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 12:17 PM

when you're done playing

Hmm. I can do it here.

Freerey 17-Feb-18 12:18 PM

?

what the hell man

I'm gonna need to get that window program

the one that lets you run fullscreen apps in a window no matter what

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 12:18 PM

DXwnd

Freerey 17-Feb-18 12:18 PM

that's the one, thank you

do I get it from sourceforge?

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 12:19 PM

Yeah, use thatlink

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 12:29 PM

@Freerey shinebox, vahkiti and myself figured out an older graphics api wrapper I found and tried working with solves a lot of issues

New patch will be out soon I believe

Joe Teddick 17-Feb-18 12:50 PM

https://gyazo.com/4ed33ad6367e6e9e844d60fc2f3e9b32

Gyazo

I keep getting this error as I launch the game on Windows 10

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 12:51 PM

It's that DLL in the install directory.

Also @V A H K I T I I don't know when I will have a new resolution hack working. (edited)

Joe Teddick 17-Feb-18 12:53 PM

Do you know how to fix it?

Should I change install directories?

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 12:55 PM

You didn't move something out of the install directory do you?

Joe Teddick 17-Feb-18 12:55 PM

nope i just created a shortcut to it

i can try to reinstall

just reinstalled same thing

https://gyazo.com/a58a91ff40830f3537a67f4d87bad245

Gyazo

this is the only stuff in the directory

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 12:58 PM

The DLLs are missing. Did you just install the patch and not the base game first?

Joe Teddick 17-Feb-18 12:58 PM

welp that is probably the issue. I was just sent the link and assumed it had everything, my bad

Tamaru 17-Feb-18 01:05 PM

Thanks fof patches! But my Onu-Matoran dancers still invisible.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Feb-18 01:08 PM

mine too

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 01:11 PM

Oh great.

I swear I'm going to get these guys working if its the last thing I do.

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 01:14 PM

Mine are fine, but I realize I've been using dgvoodoo

Tamaru 17-Feb-18 01:23 PM

Oh i got it I deleted some files and they appeared!

Joe Teddick 17-Feb-18 01:35 PM

My intro videos kinda work but they are in the top half the screen and they all like overlay each other

has that happened to anyone else?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 01:35 PM

Yes, it's a result of the patch (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Feb-18 01:39 PM

@Joe Teddick happens to me

Bitl 17-Feb-18 01:40 PM

that happened to me without the patches

Freerey 17-Feb-18 01:40 PM

yep

『Phantoms』ᴾᵉᵃᶜᵉ ᴷᵉᵉᵖᵉʳ 17-Feb-18 01:40 PM

I've had that issue also without the patches

Freerey 17-Feb-18 01:50 PM

well dxwnd doesn't work, but that doesn't matter, since apparently we found a way to go windowed without it

Joe Teddick 17-Feb-18 02:01 PM

oh ok thanks! Wasn't sure if it was happening to just me

Tetsu Aero 17-Feb-18 04:26 PM

A not so devastating bug, but when i press exit, to exit the game. The game freezes. But the error message pops up directly afterwards and it exits anyway

Bitl 17-Feb-18 04:30 PM

same here

also quitting it out results in a exception message

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 17-Feb-18 04:40 PM

Same

Freerey 17-Feb-18 05:32 PM

that happens to everyone

Freerey 17-Feb-18 05:57 PM

well I tried going through a tunnel in ga-wahi, but the game crashed

You run into this tunnel when you come into Ga-Koro and keep running straight past the two matoran

it's at address 1001d6d3

but then when I clicked the "Load game" button after reloading, it put me in the cave

oh yeah....forgot that bubbles crashed the game

and now whenever I click "LOAD GAME" from the section after Gali goes surfing on water (where she retrieves her grappling hook), the game immediately crashes once I hit the water, and with no exception error

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 06:01 PM

Known bug my dude. Check the bug list before reporting stuff. It's in all caps in the channel description.

• Loading a save anywhere in Gali's level will cause entering water to crash the game

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:01 PM

alright then

here's a funny thing in Kopaka's level: those avalanche boulders just went flying

lmao okay the evergreen-looking trees in ko-wahi are very easy to get stuck on if you run into them

like, the trees' leaf layers all have collision on them, so Kopaka can grab onto the trees and climb them, even though they're not much bigger than him

found a red tree on the upward path in ko-koro and idk if that's supposed to be a quest thing or what

Omega12 17-Feb-18 06:11 PM

not sure why it's red

but it's not caused by the texture

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:13 PM

found a bug when I tried going into a tower in Ko-wahi

address is 00457a84

I think it's Nuju's home

wait, no it was the entrance to a cave

Snowcone 17-Feb-18 06:14 PM

I cant see anything when I load a level

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:14 PM

and then after I reloaded the game to try to leave the cave, the game crashed again

and then when I loaded the game again, all I got was a void of nothingness for Kopaka to fall through

@Snowcone literally nothing? is the entire screen black?

Snowcone 17-Feb-18 06:17 PM

no I see a small blue dot

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:18 PM

do you see any of the HUD? or any particle effects?

Snowcone 17-Feb-18 06:18 PM

yes

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:18 PM

okay, this is likely either an SVP thing or you need to update your graphics drivers

did you change the SVP settings? go to the bmp page for this game to see how you do it

(btw after the dance with Tahu, do NOT jump on the little lava circle in front of you; it freezes the game)

jfc this is scary o-o

I loaded the game after the crash and now all the Matoran have lost their color and masks

it's like a village of skeletons

I guess living around lava will do that

Perp3tual 17-Feb-18 06:22 PM

"I need a lava board" "You need a soul"

😺 ChibiErica97 17-Feb-18 06:23 PM

Spooky

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:23 PM

"Losing items seems to be a very common thing on Mata Nui. You need to get more organized." Tahu is starting to sense the bullshit here

okay it happened again

whatever you do: do NOT step in the little lava pool in the dancing room

Snowcone 17-Feb-18 06:24 PM

where at the bmp page

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:25 PM

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/the-legend-of-mata-nui/ here

JrMasterModelBuilder

The Legend of Mata Nui

there is another svp property that you may need to change to 2

looks like you can't enter the cave opposite from the entrance to ta-koro

Snowcone 17-Feb-18 06:31 PM

nope still not working

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:31 PM

actually, none of the caves seem to work

have you tried every configuration?

also, what kind of computer are you running on?

Snowcone 17-Feb-18 06:32 PM

windows 10

is that what you meant or do you want more details

Freerey 17-Feb-18 06:32 PM

well if it's win10, idk then

usually with older systems, all you'd have to do is make sure the drivers are updated

also new glitch: when Tahu dies in the little entrance to ta-koro, it will be impossible to enter the village

instead once he gets to the warp area, he'll just walk in place and will continue to walk in place wherever you take him

found jaller, can't talk to him

(fyi I'm gonna put this stuff in the github, so don't worry)

Freerey 17-Feb-18 08:36 PM

well, the only problem with the windowed mode now is that the window can't be resized (edited)

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 08:41 PM

Yeah, that's an issue. You can try tinkering with the DGVoodoo settings to see what you can get, but I set it up to the best way it seemed capable of (edited)

Just make sure to run it as admin

Freerey 17-Feb-18 08:41 PM

oh yeah and thanks for fixing the transitions; those were bothering the nuts off me

like "is this a transition or did somebody just close the blinds?"

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 08:45 PM

We didn't even know those were in this version of the game until a couple of nights ago when I accidentally got one half working after an alt+tab glitch. @(Team Kanohi) ASCII then uploaded a video the next day of completing the Onua/Makuta segment. Having already installed DGVoodoo for his own purposes, this fixed all the issues outlined in the changelog, and he didn't even know it.

You can then imagine my surprise when I watched his completely unrelated video and saw all this shit functioning normally.

Speaking of, @Swert, this patch might resolve your DXWnd issues. By way of no longer needing DXWnd.

(edited)

Freerey 17-Feb-18 08:49 PM

@ShadowDraikana here's what I was talking about with gali

Attachment: 2018-02-17_20-43-35TrimTrim.mp4 (6.3 MB)

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 08:49 PM

Odd

Freerey 17-Feb-18 08:49 PM

there's something invisible here

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 08:49 PM

Also how did you upload a video directly to discord??

I've never had that do anything more than send the raw file.

Freerey 17-Feb-18 08:49 PM

clicked the plus, double-clicked video file?

gonna send more footage later on, but in lower quality

discord had problem with the original 13-second clip

tree problems

Attachment: 2018-02-17_20-54-16Trim.mp4 (7.44 MB)

the great red tree

Attachment: 2018-02-17_20-54-16Trim2.mp4 (4.79 MB)

just a test here really...but it shows an area where the game crashes

Attachment: 2018-02-17_20-57-24.mp4 (4.09 MB)

YaBoiDriftKing 17-Feb-18 08:58 PM

I have an issue. I'm playing though Onua's level, and I went through a door that resulted in a crash. Specifically, I was in room ATRM going into a door to the left of Kapura. When I try to load my game again, it loads the last room I entered, which was the one that caused the crash. Is there any way I can change my game save's room?

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 09:01 PM

No. This is on the known bugs list, which people seem unable to remember to look at.

YaBoiDriftKing 17-Feb-18 09:02 PM

Well dang. That one's on me for not paying attention.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 09:03 PM

Freerey 17-Feb-18 09:03 PM

I know it was stated that the game crashes if you enter the dance hall after you've already done the dance, but has it been stated that you'll go into the dance hall if you hang from the ledge like I just did here?

Attachment: 2018-02-17_20-59-37Trim.mp4 (3.25 MB)

Swordsworth 17-Feb-18 09:04 PM

Cracks me up that I knew the left kapura cave caused the corruption, arrived at the cave, and then promptly forgot and entered it

Freerey 17-Feb-18 09:04 PM

(also for some reason jumping into the litlte lava pool does nothing; it was causing problems before) (edited)

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 09:20 PM

In the onua jumping challenge room, i mashed attack while grabbed onto the ledge of the fourth platform and didnt die, when i reached the ground i could walk for a short time like 5 seconds then was killed

EvilJagaGenius 17-Feb-18 09:30 PM

The game crashes for me after I start riding the Kane-Ra and ride across to the next part of the level

Also crashes after I exit the first part of Makuta's level as Onua

Are these known bugs that aren't on the list, or is my computer doing weird crap? (edited)

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 09:42 PM

idk

Also game crashed when i killed vatuka nui using powerful shot as onua

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 09:43 PM

Getting there normally or by warping?

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 09:44 PM

normally

I did give myself the wall dig power and enough tokens to get in though

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 09:44 PM

Hmm

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 09:44 PM

but other than that i played through it

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 09:44 PM

Noted

Deleted User 17-Feb-18 09:45 PM

i loaded my save again, it crashes when i attack his rocks also

Kaylie Vinchenstein 17-Feb-18 10:18 PM

current build froze when I went to check the game controls/help screen. =/

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 10:21 PM

This is common

It does that on all builds

YaBoiDriftKing 17-Feb-18 10:49 PM

What language and/or tools are you guys using to make fixes for the game? I'd like to help out here and there, but I'm, shall we say, inexperienced.

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 10:51 PM

We're simply tinkering with the files for the most part.

Some things were put in the wrong folder, for example. Nothing fancy in that shrine fix.

Kaylie Vinchenstein 17-Feb-18 11:04 PM

Well, the cave with the nui jaga no longer seems to work and crashes my game =/

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 11:06 PM

I tried the patch and it works here. You on Win10?

Kaylie Vinchenstein 17-Feb-18 11:09 PM

yep

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 11:09 PM

Seeing a pattern here.

The Win 10 patch breaks that cave completely, but ONLY on Win 10

@JrMasterModelBuilder, can you confirm?

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 11:10 PM

Uhh, without it Windows 10 doesn't work at all.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 11:10 PM

No I know.

I'm just saying can you confirm the cave still works on 8 and below

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 11:10 PM

So I'm not sure that is why Windows 10 crashes.

Windows 7 worked fine with the Win10 patch. (edited)

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 11:11 PM

Weird

So the 10 patch is causing a 10 exclusive crash

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Feb-18 11:11 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if Windows 10 has some other unrelated crashing bug.

"So the 10 patch is causing a 10 exclusive crash" I think it might enable you to get to another bug, I doubt it causes it.

V A H K I T I 17-Feb-18 11:12 PM

Tru

That would make more sense. xP

ShadowDraikana 17-Feb-18 11:14 PM

Confirmed. The Win10 patch does not cause a crash in that cave even on Win7

emily (peri) 17-Feb-18 11:18 PM

im on win10 and ive been able to get into the jaga cave

don't think I've tried in the last few patches though

...ok yeah it crashes now

Hexadecimal Mantis 17-Feb-18 11:29 PM

I also tested that area. Granted, tested it way later than I said I would, but it crashed for me.

So, I should probably revoke my "No issues" statement

Deleted User 18-Feb-18 02:00 AM

when i enter the tunnels behind vatuka nui, he threw a rock that glithced through the wall and then the wall sealed up and im stuck

so im in a closed room

ok never mind its opene again after alt tabbing?

also, it seems that vatuka crashes when hes shrinking, throwing rocks, or growing. so when hes in a non idle animation getting hit crashes him for me

TheTokytot 18-Feb-18 02:12 AM

For me, Vatuka Nui would T-Pose when getting damaged (that seemed to be what it was). The game crashed when I probably beat him.

TheTokytot 18-Feb-18 02:52 AM

Whenever I attack the Ice Monster, the game flat out closes with no error messages at all.

Lehvak Nuva 18-Feb-18 11:29 AM

Why on Gali level all water is static without animation? Is there a way to fix that in patch?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 18-Feb-18 11:34 AM

Could the ice monster exit be another .slb error, or animation misplacement?

Lehvak Nuva 18-Feb-18 11:46 AM

Another bug - when being in water you accidentally shoot Gali's harpoon, she dies, and then dies again when harpoon returns to her after resurrection.

Bitl 18-Feb-18 01:12 PM

it crashes on launch after patch v0.005

Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: LEGO Bionicle.exe Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 3b54cf21 Fault Module Name: LEGO Bionicle.exe Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 3b54cf21 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 000cbf7e OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

the vudoo thing causes the crash

to fix make it pass through to real dx in the control panel

ok it works now

messed around with the other settings and it works now

now the entire window is black

only the hud shows up

i think its just my integrated cpu

Bitl 18-Feb-18 01:36 PM

ok now i remove dgvoodoo and it no longer renders properly even with these options

SvpOther=2 SvpRad=0

Syobnaf 18-Feb-18 01:36 PM

Shouldn't rad be 1

Bitl 18-Feb-18 01:38 PM

oh yeah

its fixed now

Gatanui 18-Feb-18 02:39 PM

4 and 6 don't do anything for me when using the debug camera. Neither does CTRL + /.

Also, you can ride the Kane-Ra without getting the Komau by just walking through the wall with the holes.

Doctor U 18-Feb-18 02:56 PM

Wait a minute. You can use Komau to ride Rahis?

Perp3tual 18-Feb-18 02:58 PM

Yeah. It triggers a unique cutscene too.

Doctor U 18-Feb-18 03:01 PM

Has anyone made a list/gallery on various Rahis you encounter in the game?

Galgo 18-Feb-18 03:10 PM

is there a way to reverse the widescreen hack? it doesn't play nice with the game in a lot of spots

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 03:11 PM

Edit the resolution in the INI and DGVoodoo

What doesn't it play nice with though?

Galgo 18-Feb-18 03:12 PM

on my end, the game is permanently letterboxed and the dialog box isn't displayed right

for instance, during whenua's exposition about the legend of mata-nui, you can see his body through through the text

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 03:12 PM

Oh yeah, that.

Whenua is the only problem I've had

@JrMasterModelBuilder caused a bug with the win 10 patch that puts a black bar at the bottom.

But other than that, there shouldn't be any dialog boxes in windescreen

BitterHeat 18-Feb-18 03:27 PM

The LOMNTool 0.1.0 keeps crashing when I drag .x files onto it. Is there anything I could do about that?

I'm using Win 10 btw

JrMasterModelBuilder 18-Feb-18 03:54 PM

Interestingly almost all of the code for native windowed mode via INI is actually in the binary, in roughly the same place as the resolution code. I'll try to get that in the updated resolution patch also.

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 04:06 PM

Noice

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 18-Feb-18 04:10 PM

weeew, new bug I think, When fighting the mud guy on onua's level, if you use earthquake then attack him while he's 'stunned' it crashes.

only issue is, isn't that how you defeat him?

ok, nvm that only happened once

annnnd right when I say that it happens again...

benji 18-Feb-18 04:23 PM

@BitterHeat which .x file?

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 09:23 PM

when I load a game the level is dark all I can see is a few dots

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 09:23 PM

-_-

Honestly it's like the known bugs and install notes list is invisible or something. I'm really starting to get tired of this.

Next patch I swear to god I'm going to edit the game's actual installer to put up a full screen, all caps message to tell people to read the freakin notes. (edited)

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 09:25 PM

no i tried that it did nothing

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 09:25 PM

Okay well you wouldn't be the first one to just come in here and not read anything anyways. xD

Hexadecimal Mantis 18-Feb-18 09:25 PM

~~Are you sure you saved the file?~~

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 09:25 PM

But I apologize all the same

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 09:26 PM

I am pretty sure it is saved

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 09:26 PM

compatability mode for XP?

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 09:32 PM

https://gyazo.com/c18d14378191ce9cf0fa5b2b127faffd this is what my bionicle.ini file looks like

Gyazo

anything I should change

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 09:33 PM

No that looks right. Did you set compatibility mode like I suggested?

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 09:34 PM

XP right

oh I should also say I am using win 10 (edited)

sorry I meant 10

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 09:38 PM

SHould still be fine

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 09:38 PM

well what do i change it to

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 09:40 PM

Compatibility mode for XP I said that twice already. .-.

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 09:43 PM

still not working

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 09:44 PM

Update your GPU drivers?

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 09:48 PM

okay

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 10:01 PM

still did nothing

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:20 PM

Hmm.. try messing with the driver settings under the direct X tab of dgvoodoo

Make sure to run it as admin

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 10:22 PM

how do I do that? (edited)

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:26 PM

it's in the install folder

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 10:27 PM

Ok, but where (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:28 PM

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 10:28 PM

huh I dont have dgvoodoo for some reason

https://gyazo.com/b3dfa082cab1ff105e2098d5adc0cc0e

Gyazo

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:29 PM

What.. is the last patch you installed?

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 10:29 PM

.0004

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:30 PM

Yeah you're a patch behind.

http://bit.ly/TLOMNPatch

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 10:31 PM

ah ok

ugh stupid norton

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:33 PM

>Norton

Norton in itself may as well be a virus.

You'd best ditch that shit at the earliest possible opportunity.

Switch to Kapersky or Avast

I mean if you can anyways.

The last time I had to uninstall Norton, I had to delete all the registry keys

Manually

Doctor U 18-Feb-18 10:34 PM

Or Windows Defender is good enough

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:34 PM

That thing is a BITCH to get rid of

друг 18-Feb-18 10:34 PM

aight so I got it installed, now run .0004 patch?

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:35 PM

No?

0.005

друг 18-Feb-18 10:35 PM

fr?

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:35 PM

http://bit.ly/TLOMNPatch

друг 18-Feb-18 10:35 PM

well zog, do I need previous patch versions or a fresh install?

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:37 PM

No

друг 18-Feb-18 10:37 PM

got it

the weird texture shimmer is normal?

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 10:38 PM

should I change my video card to the one I have (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:38 PM

Try it with the default settings

If it still doesn't work, then fiddle

друг 18-Feb-18 10:38 PM

k

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:38 PM

Shimmer?

друг 18-Feb-18 10:42 PM

hard to explain

like when you move the texture shift

will send a screen 1 second

guess I will not

now whole screen is black

change svprad setting yes?

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:49 PM

Ye

друг 18-Feb-18 10:50 PM

I cannot alter the .ini file?

I seem to lack permission

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:51 PM

Copy it somewhere lese to edit it.

друг 18-Feb-18 10:51 PM

ah

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 10:51 PM

Can anyone else on @Team Litestone handle this going forward? I need to focus on one channel at a time here or I'm gonna lose my goddamn mind.

(edited)

ShadowDraikana 18-Feb-18 10:52 PM

Or change the permissons for the whole game folder

друг 18-Feb-18 10:53 PM

roight, changed the setting but still black, gonna try something real quick tho

Snowcone 18-Feb-18 10:54 PM

idk wth is going on with the game but i have tried everything

друг 18-Feb-18 11:07 PM

in between where textures and the ground meet are these weird jagged lines

ShadowDraikana 18-Feb-18 11:08 PM

it's a rendering issue. Already known.

друг 18-Feb-18 11:08 PM

my bad

alright then

in that case all is working well otherwise!

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 11:09 PM

Noice

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 11:17 PM

Aha, I think I've pinpointed the nui jaga crash

DGVoodoo is causing it.

I'll tinker

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 11:25 PM

Can't get it to fix. I'm just gonna say that we know DGVoodoo makes the area crash WORSE, but there is otherwise something wrong with the area.

ShadowDraikana 18-Feb-18 11:27 PM

I wonder if it's slb or ocl related?

Wouldn't be surpriaing

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 11:52 PM

I have some new info. Temporarily put DGVoodoo in DX passthrough mode to test the cave

Directly passing through the wall with noclip doesn't crash, but walking into the cave further does

This tells me it's not the wall that's the problem, but something in the level itself

ShadowDraikana 18-Feb-18 11:53 PM

That's what I said when this was first detected

Does it crash or just exit without a message?

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 11:54 PM

Exit

ShadowDraikana 18-Feb-18 11:54 PM

Missing files

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 11:54 PM

I removed all textures to rule out that as a corruption issue. No dice still

I'll boot up rpocmon

ShadowDraikana 18-Feb-18 11:54 PM

Gali's shrine caused exits because it was missing

btw, we're making progress on the masks

I need to go back and find where I said this was being caused by missing files.

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 11:56 PM

Curious

ShadowDraikana 18-Feb-18 11:56 PM

?

V A H K I T I 18-Feb-18 11:56 PM

I didn't find the issue, but I DID find that the soundtrack is incomplete

The cave is calling for C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle\Data\Sounds\MUSIClegoTRANCE.mp3

WHich doesn't exist

ShadowDraikana 18-Feb-18 11:58 PM

That's quite odd

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 12:00 AM

Also looks for these files

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:01 AM

on it

emily (peri) 19-Feb-18 12:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crNiTdyM8iY music in the room seems to be 'low and creepy ambiance' in the DB version

there are already a few dupes of sound tracks in the files, so its possible that MUSIClegoTRANCE was one too

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:04 AM

@V A H K I T I Ran a search for all files with scrp in the name and nothing came back that I saw for those files

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 12:04 AM

Well yeah

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:04 AM

Raises the question if the installer didn't do it's job

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 12:04 AM

This whole list is a list of files the game couldn't find

And @JrMasterModelBuilder already determined there are no extra files

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:05 AM

That's a bummer.

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:16 AM

@V A H K I T I Did you keep ProcMon running while digging one of those walls?

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 12:17 AM

Ye

I'll try running it through ida

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:17 AM

Actually, try running it while digging a working diggable area. See if there's a difference.

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:27 AM

Anything?

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 12:32 AM

Haven't attempted yet

Everythijg below this point are files the game called but didn't find. Will unfilter to include everything in a sec

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:37 AM

So that's formthe working area

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 12:38 AM

Yeah

Also

for this list, I'm gonna have to get you ti get procmon for yourself to see the list output.

You still never explained why you can't run it. xD

But I can't copy this whole log here

Attachment: Logfile.PML (1.81 MB)

On an unrelated note: @Swert, you tried 0.005 yet

?

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:40 AM

It's a bit of a long story...

But yeah I'll try to run it here.

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 12:42 AM

?

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 12:43 AM

I'm in sleep deprivation mode right now, so it'll have to wait.

Swert 19-Feb-18 01:16 AM

@V A H K I T I not yet

been busy

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 01:16 AM

Rip

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 02:06 AM

I got an error where i'm at work instead of not at work

1

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 02:10 AM

GODDAMMIT PHEE. xD

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 02:12 AM

I also have another bug where everytime I look at something I want to kill myself, is that normal?

Aurora 19-Feb-18 02:12 AM

I have that bug too

Do you have a patch in the works for that?

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 02:14 AM

No patch yet, but purchasing the "full wallet" dlc helps a bit

Aurora 19-Feb-18 02:14 AM

I don't believe in DLC

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 02:16 AM

Dlc used to be a way to add fresh new content to a game, now it's an excuse to release unfinished games

Aurora 19-Feb-18 02:17 AM

I think I'll just keep grinding. I think I can earn alcohol at level 21.

Doctor U 19-Feb-18 02:17 AM

I still refer all expansion packs as DLCs. Like with board games

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 02:18 AM

Doesn't help. I'm almost at level 22 and have had the alcohol perk since 19

Aurora 19-Feb-18 02:19 AM

Where'd you get that perk? I'm on level 19 right now.

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 02:19 AM

It's the canadian pre-order bonus

Doctor U 19-Feb-18 02:19 AM

I think that perk is region locked

Aurora 19-Feb-18 02:20 AM

Know any cheat codes to bypass it?

Alia of AGL 19-Feb-18 02:21 AM

Also, don't know if this was reported, but I booted up Kopaka's level, quit to the debug menu, selected "PRINT" and the moving platforms are still there.

Doctor U 19-Feb-18 02:21 AM

@Aurora move to other regions

Like Germany

Aurora 19-Feb-18 02:22 AM

That takes the passport expansion package.

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 02:22 AM

You could try the fake_ID patch, but I heard that costs money and may not work

Aurora 19-Feb-18 02:22 AM

Have a link?

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 02:23 AM

It's based by region, I don't have one compatible for you

Aurora 19-Feb-18 02:24 AM

Does anyone here have a fake_id patch for the Utah region?

Nobody?

Damn

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 02:41 AM

Perp3tual 19-Feb-18 04:02 AM

Aurora 19-Feb-18 05:15 AM

Doctor U 19-Feb-18 06:47 AM

I downloaded the patches but I am getting this: Unhandled exception c0000005 at address 004cbf7e

2Tie 19-Feb-18 07:53 AM

oh whoops, i probably shoulda popped in here before posting stuff to the github bug tracker (edited)

Aurora 19-Feb-18 12:44 PM

6

Gatanui 19-Feb-18 01:06 PM

So switching between full-screen and windowed mode is broken when you restart the game. Not a dealbreaker but I thought I'd let you know.

Also I got this fascinating abomination today.

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 01:15 PM

@2Tie I responded to some of your posts in the github page; hope that helps. (edited)

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:12 PM

so, the first time i was playing through Gali, the floor of the hut with the matoran text had a different voice depending on if i tried to interact with the ruru or not (but the text stayed "XXX"). on subsequent playthroughs it hasn't played any vocals, and i haven't edited or patched any of the files in between.

i'm not sure which is the bug, playing vocals or not lol

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:14 PM

You're trying to talk to a floor with a Ruru on it? I have not the slightest idea what you're on about, would you mind trying that again? xD

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:14 PM

one sec, i'll get a screenshot

this room, you can "talk" to the middle of the blue area (because just below it is a bunch of matoran text, i'll get another screeny)

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:18 PM

Wait, the Ruru actually DOES something?

Er

Rua

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:19 PM

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:19 PM

OH SHIT

THAT'S THE MISSING TABLET

It must have just been placed in the level incorrectly.

That's the thing necessary for progression as Gali that I previously thought just wasn't there (edited)

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:20 PM

i'm thinking more along the lines of talking to nokama would remove the blue cover over it

but nokama doesn't do anything lol

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:20 PM

But she has no dialogue

So rip

@ShadowDraikana, Your two cents on this?

@Perp3tual too

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:21 PM

and you can just stand in the middle of the blue cover and press space and you'll "talk" to it

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:21 PM

Try activating the Rau and then doing that

Swordsworth 19-Feb-18 03:23 PM

In gali's level all underwater areas do not render for me

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:23 PM

the XXX text is the same whether the rau is on or not

but the voice clip worked again this time

no idea if it triggers anything yet (edited)

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:24 PM

Hm

Well I can tell you right now. XXX in this game is a default text output.

It's displayed when the actual intended text is missing.

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:29 PM

so due to how garbage the swim controls are, i haven't investigated the underwater tunnels that much

i know where gali's energy sphere is, but not the gear or the matoran who wants it

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:29 PM

You know what would be great to fix one of these days? (edited)

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:29 PM

the freecam's vertical inversion??

P:

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:30 PM

The bug where you're softlocked onto the water's surface.

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:32 PM

i don't know how to dive or tread water, one or the other just seems to happen randomly and i'm okay with staying on the surface :V

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:33 PM

Well the bug I'm talking about, unless there's a control I'm missing just makes you permanently tread water with no way to dive (edited)

Also air bubbles crash the game outright, so rip exploring any of the longer caves prior to getting the Kaukau

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:34 PM

to fix that i bump my head until i'm walking underwater, then i jump out

at least whenever it happens in VLLG

there's one map that you can avoid the bubbles if you cheese it with debug kaukau

i think after grapple claw? i don't know gali's layout as good as onua's

that said, i'll try having a look with debug cam, i don't think it resets if the toa dies

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:36 PM

It does

I found a cheese on the last stream for Lewa's area of Makuta btw

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:37 PM

whelp, time to get an absurd amount of energy

oh?

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:37 PM

If you're on a vine you can't die. When the timer runs to 0, it just loops back

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:38 PM

ooooh

also, i still gotta figure out what the point is for going in the kaukau statue waterfall. a matoran mentions weird noises.....

so my leads after the tablet are that and the closed door in the tarakava map

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:40 PM

Cave near the back on the waterfall behind the suva.

Oh?

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:41 PM

yeah i've gone through that platforming bit and got up into the mask, saw the horns up there but i don't know what it was meant to accomplish. no upgrades or pickups besides the UDD tokens afaik

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:41 PM

Ye

Try using the debug camera to get into the water pipe inside that area (edited)

Maybe it goes somewhere

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:42 PM

alright, will do

Swordsworth 19-Feb-18 03:48 PM

dude I can't see underwater at all

it's just a bright solid blue

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:49 PM

Hopefully the next patch will fix that along with the other graphical issues it seems to

Swordsworth 19-Feb-18 03:49 PM

it's not an issue in onua's level

just gali's

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:49 PM

If you want to test, are you familiar with using debuggers?

Swordsworth 19-Feb-18 03:49 PM

ye (edited)

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:50 PM

Aight, I'll parrot what JMMB, Benji and I did last night so you can test the next patch in its raw form.

(edited)

Swordsworth 19-Feb-18 03:50 PM

although I'll have to hold off on it for a little while I eat and run some errands, just drop whatever you need here and I'll take a look

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:50 PM

Aight

Set a breakpoint at 0x004CC2CD, let it break there. Change register EDX, (or RDX in my case) to 77 (0x4D), then continue. (edited)

AFAIK that fixes the z-buffer issue as well as some other general glitchy visuals.

Might help here too. @Swordsworth

@JrMasterModelBuilder is working on coding that into a proper hex patch today last I heard, but for now, just do that to test.

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:54 PM

ooh i'd love a hex patch.. though, fixing z-buffer means no pickups letting us know there's rooms beyond the walls lol

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:54 PM

I mean you can always use the debug camera, or just revert to a previous patch for that. xP

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:55 PM

yeah i have a backup of the original exe, i'm using the W10 hex patch atm

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:56 PM

FYI the ORIGINAL original EXE is always included in the patches

Just renamed LEGO Bionicle.exe.OLD (edited)

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:57 PM

being a TCRF regular, i like to poke around with as little functional/ingame content changed as possible so i can document stuff accurately :P

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 03:58 PM

I mean to be fair, the only things we've really done are fix crashes and graphical bugs.

We haven't edited any content yet aside from the placeholder textures in Frontend

2Tie 19-Feb-18 03:59 PM

ah, alright

EvilJagaGenius 19-Feb-18 05:20 PM

ummmm... I know how to dive from treading water double-tap w

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 05:20 PM

Wait what

Holy shit he's right (edited)

O_o

Whelp

It's looking like we need to make a better help screen than the game actually offers.

EvilJagaGenius 19-Feb-18 05:22 PM

lol

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 05:23 PM

I just noticed you can cycle BACK through masks and powers with q and r respectively. That's just me being blind I guess.

Still thinking of remapping thst shit with AHK

Eg: masks to scroll wheel

Just turn the debug script into an overall control modernizer

Though I'm tempted to keep jump on right click

Maybe I'm the only one, but I've gotten used to it

Feels pretty intuitive now.

Or maybe this game just gave me stockholm syndrome.

EvilJagaGenius 19-Feb-18 05:25 PM

probably both =P

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 05:26 PM

I seem to have trouble mapping keys to the mouse though, so that may take some time

I'm going out for a bit cause I need to tear myself away from this project, so I'll do it when I get back.

Seriously, I still have my room in a wreck from having to move PCs around before Win 10 patch, and I just showered for the first time in like.. 4 days. x-x

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 05:31 PM

@V A H K I T I I was summoned?

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 05:33 PM

Sukikyo 19-Feb-18 05:35 PM

I have a bug where the game is not skyrim, and is therefore trash

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 05:35 PM

Oh yeah I saw that a while a go. Didn't think much of it for some reason

Now it makes sense for how to progress to the ISLD section

I think Nokama fits into this because in order to progress in Onua's level, you must talk to him to gain access to the next areas after the village. Probably the case here.

him being Whenua, sorry

2Tie 19-Feb-18 05:38 PM

holy moly, double w to dive, s near the surface to tread

i feel a little better about swimming now

thanks @EvilJagaGenius

Alia of AGL 19-Feb-18 05:40 PM

Yeah, a better control scheme would help. Though I have gotten mostly used to Jump on Right Click and Action on Space, flipping them would be far more natural.

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-18 05:40 PM

remind me when I get back to just make a new help screen

Cause that was stated NOWHERE

2Tie 19-Feb-18 05:40 PM

yeah

is there a way to swim underwater faster than mashing right click?

Alia of AGL 19-Feb-18 05:40 PM

And the F1 stuff is also not explained there.

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 05:41 PM

SWIMMING WORKS?

wtf why didn't anyone find this before?

2Tie 19-Feb-18 05:42 PM

awkward base controls! i pressed every key trying to find some semblance of swim controls but i didn't try double-tapping anything lol

longjumping while wading is still my goto swim method lol

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 05:42 PM

Same here XD

Alia of AGL 19-Feb-18 05:42 PM

All I understood was that right-clicking is something of an underwater dash...

2Tie 19-Feb-18 05:42 PM

yeah, a five inch dash P:

now that i can dive (and come up for air) more reliably i'll mess with swimming some more

i know there's a dolphin jump too

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 05:43 PM

Thanks for finding this man

2Tie 19-Feb-18 05:44 PM

does F1 actually do anything, or is that text likely just a holdover from older stuff?

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 05:48 PM

I think it is.

because the E and R keys work to cycle between elemental powers

2Tie 19-Feb-18 05:50 PM

right

ShadowDraikana 19-Feb-18 05:50 PM

F1 has no function that I've found thus far

Deleted User 19-Feb-18 07:47 PM

F1~F3, in theory, would be your elemental abilities

kinda like how the number keys correspond with your arsenal in fps games

2Tie 19-Feb-18 07:48 PM

similar to how the number row is the masks?

Deleted User 19-Feb-18 07:48 PM

yeah

they should've bundled a mouse with two scroll wheels :y

2Tie 19-Feb-18 07:49 PM

onua does tell gali he gave her most of his skills, perhaps they were meant to stack at one point as well?

just some postulation.

Deleted User 19-Feb-18 07:50 PM

would've saved you the trouble for looking for another glyph just so you could take out the rahi

2Tie 19-Feb-18 07:51 PM

especially considering that glyph is after the grapple hook, rua, and kaukau

though gali doesn't really have enemies until then, either

just a lousy lung capactiy

YaBoiDriftKing 19-Feb-18 11:29 PM

An issue I have with the game is this: When I hit the Windows key on my keyboard while the game is running, nothing happens. Also, it doesn't allow me to change the volume of the game's audio. Is the game simply ignoring Windows functionality?

YaBoiDriftKing 19-Feb-18 11:53 PM

Currently, Kopaka's dance doesn't render anyone, and it crashes when it tries to load the next room immediately following the dance.

2Tie 20-Feb-18 12:00 AM

speaking of crashing, does anybody know the reason the third horn in the ga-koro waterfall crashes? is it missing a sound?

Perp3tual 20-Feb-18 12:12 AM

I think it might be crashing over a missing cinematic or graphic.

That's my hunch.

Omega12 20-Feb-18 12:16 AM

Hey swanka, I got that fixed tonight

Should be fixed next patch

YaBoiDriftKing 20-Feb-18 12:18 AM

@Omega12 Well ahead of me, then. Nice job!

Omega12 20-Feb-18 12:18 AM

Got lewas dance rendering as well, but got some more bugs to iron out of it (edited)

YaBoiDriftKing 20-Feb-18 12:18 AM

Yeah, I saw that in the General chat.

Seems I skimmed over any possible mention of Kopaka.

Omega12 20-Feb-18 12:19 AM

I've been working on it for the last week, that's why that wasn't huge news

Lewas was brand new today

ShadowDraikana 20-Feb-18 09:14 AM

@YaBoiDriftKing We can't completely fix the crash after the Takara there yet, but I found a temporary fix for it.

LukasExemplar 20-Feb-18 11:13 AM

I think skipping the Onua dance sequence might prevent you from having Whenua open the gates.

Also, after I did this, when I restarted the game, there were no white tokens.

Except after shutting down the game complete and reopening it.

2Tie 20-Feb-18 11:22 AM

yeah starting a level over after loading a save from the same level doesn't fully reset the game state (edited)

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 12:32 PM

So, if you die underwater...

Okay, I used the debug cam to get that view, but you just lose your body.

Lehvak Nuva 20-Feb-18 12:33 PM

You can die faster if you shoot harpoon underwater

2Tie 20-Feb-18 12:33 PM

yeah there's some states that don't like to respawn

ShadowDraikana 20-Feb-18 12:37 PM

MWAT is one of them

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 12:39 PM

I'm now in a land of infinite death.

So, I teleported out, but I'm missing a hook now.

ShadowDraikana 20-Feb-18 12:40 PM

That's a new one

2Tie 20-Feb-18 12:41 PM

if you change map (naturally) a couple times it should come back (edited)

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 02:38 PM

After some messing around...

If I manage to capture a picture of me swimming on land, I will post it,

liquidelectricity 20-Feb-18 02:43 PM

Has anyone had problems with Gali's underwater view being entirely blue? I've had this issue even with the patch, until the other day when I warped in the debug menu from (I believe) GL3S into SHRN. I could actually see and swim around for a good while! But on BECH or VLLG when i jump in the water everything just goes blue

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 02:49 PM

I can walk in water.

I DID IT! I'M SWIMMING IN AIR!

Doctor U 20-Feb-18 02:54 PM

@TheTokytot The Snowman animation

benji 20-Feb-18 02:54 PM

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 02:54 PM

If you teleport to isld and swim into the edge of the whirlpool, it happens. (edited)

It's easily replicated.

Watch out, you'll drown in air, though.

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 02:59 PM

Oh

Oh my sweet Artahka.

We've done it boys.

We have officially reached Spyro Enter the Dragonfly levels of broken

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 02:59 PM

I'm above the world.

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 02:59 PM

Everyone give yourselves a round of applause.

This is a momentous day.

benji 20-Feb-18 03:00 PM

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 03:02 PM

I have more.

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 03:03 PM

That's a common one.

That basically happens whenever you ram yourself against terrain at the surface of water enough.

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 03:03 PM

So, water and the whirlpool are extremely broken, though.

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 03:04 PM

Well it would help if the whirlpool didn't for some ridiculous reason have a solid hitbox on the top.

(edited)

Not even joking, you can actually stand on it.

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 03:08 PM

Yeah, that's what breaks it.

I GOT STUCK LIKE THIS. I CAN ONLY ROTATE VERTICALLY.

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 03:28 PM

I found this mysterious shadow.

Also, sliding with Onua crashes the game. (edited)

2Tie 20-Feb-18 03:29 PM

there's a handful of mysterious shadows and invisible objects in at least the first two levels

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 03:29 PM

Sliding?

You mean porting him into the surfing areas

?

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 03:30 PM

Yeah, I ported him into Gali's level and went to an ice part.

As soon as I stepped on, it crashed.

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 03:31 PM

Neat.

Also that's not ice.

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 03:31 PM

Oh.

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 03:31 PM

Just one of the many instances of water in Gali's level lacking animation.

TheTokytot 20-Feb-18 03:32 PM

Ah, it looks almost exactly like the ice in Kopaka's level.

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 03:32 PM

And sound for that matter.

I suppose it does.

ShadowDraikana 20-Feb-18 03:51 PM

@liquidelectricity I have the same issue on my laptop but not my desktop

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 03:52 PM

Aight. I'm just gonna nip these problems in the ass right now. AHEM...

@everyone Anyone who still has crashing on startup with ANY OS with the latest patch, (v0.005), black or white screen problems, (even after trying everything on the install notes and common issues list at least once after installing the last patch) or blue screens while swimming with Gali, I want you to PM me a full list of your system specs. (edited)

Also make a point of detailing which of the above problems is effecting you.

Gatanui 20-Feb-18 06:06 PM

Sometimes the game has a purple tint when switching from windowed mode to full screen.

2Tie 20-Feb-18 06:10 PM

woa you can switch to windowed?

or is that a patch feature

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 06:11 PM

Patch

2Tie 20-Feb-18 06:12 PM

ah

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:33 PM

what happens is I start the LEGO_Bionicle file in the install folder in program files x86's lego media folder, it then goes to an all black full screen with no video but sound functions

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:39 PM

No menu?

Does it tell you that it can't find a D3D compatible device?

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:41 PM

nothing like that at all

well, when I tried to do a video to show you just now, it instantly crashed

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:43 PM

What system are you running it on.

Is it a virtual machine or an actual PC?

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:43 PM

Windows 10.

actual PC

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:43 PM

What are the specs?

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:44 PM

Intel core i5 7300 @ 2.50 GHZ, NVidia GeForce GTX 1050 TI

i have a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 gaming laptop if that helps any Vahkiti

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:45 PM

Does it run fine on the laptop?

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:46 PM

well, when I run the one that you released before, yeah, it runs fine

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:46 PM

WHich patch?

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:46 PM

It's the one you posted the link for just recently in the general chat

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:47 PM

0.005?

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:47 PM

that doesnt work. the original download with the first patch is fine

yeah

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:47 PM

So it worked on 0.004

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:47 PM

that would be correct

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:47 PM

Try temporarily deleting these highlighted files and then try again:

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:48 PM

ok

Should I back them up just in case

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:48 PM

You can restore them from the recycle bin

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:48 PM

ok

Well, it did something. I was able to see particle effects in Onua's level

the menu also rendered, and the actual menu rendered too

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:51 PM

Okay so it's still giving the black screen effect despite your INI having all the SVP fixes

I'm not sure what to say. I'll have to add your specs to my list to compare for a future patch

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:51 PM

I can see the menu, and the hud and particle effects during Onua;s level

ok. thanks for that Vahkiti!

I hope it is of some help to you

V A H K I T I 20-Feb-18 11:52 PM

Yeah, I'll see if we can't figure something out

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 20-Feb-18 11:52 PM

thank you very mucj

ShadowDraikana 21-Feb-18 02:07 PM

Well this is odd. Reinstalling the game (needed a vanilla copy because shit happened here) renders the Svprad fix useless.

I'll PM my specs here @V A H K I T I as I also still have the blue screen for water areas. These issues seem to be on my laptop, which has intel everything, while my AMD, NVIDIA desktop runs this thing with no trouble.

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 06:00 AM

F10 crashes the game

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 06:16 AM

has anyone fallen through the first level yet?

managed to on this palm tree on my first try when trying to get on top, can't seem to again.

https://i.gyazo.com/499763ce417a7acbd7dc42f3f16a70e9.gif

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 06:33 AM

i think there may be an invisible collision object herehttps://i.gyazo.com/dab995a386337ec29180c6a4dc488b0a.gif

may have fallen through a platform for a moment https://i.gyazo.com/df882f8fe410548eca92d88faf449b86.gif

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 06:53 AM

don't know if these are helping or already known

https://i.gyazo.com/d356a905dfb1c2db24c4b3dabd8c4750.gif

Perp3tual 22-Feb-18 06:56 AM

^ The true form of the Mask of Strength's power.

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 06:58 AM

https://i.gyazo.com/181b1a9a78383bbd28278863d7b148e5.gif

https://i.gyazo.com/42c6f59f7303fb198b5772f2c34161f0.gif

i assume these are minor, but thought U'd share them anyway.

managed to accidentally push him into a table https://i.gyazo.com/d173492cb9e6a19eee228c6ddc3dcd2e.gif

https://i.gyazo.com/d33a632dcfbc5a42e243786959aeb33c.gif

https://i.gyazo.com/37b0993a5ec7dc0cb44f25a006b2a1a8.gif

https://i.gyazo.com/a2412c11f3fe4450351cfcdf14a77c1d.gif

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 07:23 AM

https://i.gyazo.com/9efe5db200109f0db6a6e8a6bb4ef29d.gif

https://i.gyazo.com/f8136e2a69b7c48899f700f23ec5116c.gif

spamming the grappling hook causes you to run in place for some reason (edited)

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:31 AM

I'm just gonna say this now, there really isn't any point in reporting physics related bugs right now.

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 07:31 AM

aight, I apologize. WHat kind of bugs should I report?

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:31 AM

They're so numerous and so prevalent, that they aren't even going to be documented until everythin else is fixed.

I do appreciate the effort though! (edited)

I would suggest having a look at the known bugs list in #litestone-announcements and judge from that. (edited)

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 07:32 AM

ah

sry

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:33 AM

No need to apologize. Just letting you know so you don't have to keep making a bunch of reports, aha. Non-impeding physics bugs are pretty low on the list of priorities right now.

Everything we're addressing right now ranges from moderately annoying gameplay-wise, to game breaking.

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 07:35 AM

understood

2Tie 22-Feb-18 10:41 AM

if there's any crashing bugs or bugs that cause a level to be unbeatable, report it on the issues gitgub tracker (after makig sure someone didn't already) (edited)

odd that f10 crashes, i've pressed it a few times with nothing happening before

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 04:47 PM

I can show it happening if you like.

Deleted User 22-Feb-18 04:48 PM

@Ay Star

Ay Star 22-Feb-18 04:52 PM

I'll send a .gif when I'm home.

Omega12 22-Feb-18 06:08 PM

Boy why u posting loss

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:13 PM

I can't move the stone block.

Why

help

JrMasterModelBuilder 22-Feb-18 06:13 PM

Use the mask!

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:14 PM

I know that

I press shift, approach the block, and nothing happens

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:14 PM

Same here

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:14 PM

@V A H K I T I you broke it! XD

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:14 PM

Wot

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:14 PM

Also the matoran skin is all white now

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:14 PM

Same

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:14 PM

.................

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:15 PM

Are you widows 10?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:15 PM

yep

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:15 PM

SHow me this.

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:15 PM

Yeah that might be it

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:15 PM

Had to ledge climb over the block

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:15 PM

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:15 PM

Not that, the matoran. xD

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:15 PM

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:16 PM

O_o

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:16 PM

True terror

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:16 PM

and I got an unhandled exception talking to this matoran

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:17 PM

I did not

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:17 PM

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:18 PM

Whenua works though! :D

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:18 PM

Seems fine on my end.

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:18 PM

>_>

<_<

Well damn

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:18 PM

Try a fres install?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:18 PM

Also, F1 is freecam?

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:19 PM

Ye

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:19 PM

Near identical picture

lol

It crashed

JrMasterModelBuilder 22-Feb-18 06:22 PM

That address is in GcHakaSystem::PlayHakaSequence BTW.

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:22 PM

?

Oh

Wait so it's something to do with the dancy bois

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:22 PM

I'm going to do a fresh install

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:22 PM

WHAT IS WITH THESE GUYS I SWEAR TO GOD

xD

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:28 PM

You should replace them with MNOG dancybois

just a flat paper texture to talk to

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:30 PM

Omega12 22-Feb-18 06:32 PM

Yo

The white Matoran are ko matoran

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:32 PM

F1 doesn't seem to do anything, do I need to do something?

Omega12 22-Feb-18 06:32 PM

Wtf

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:33 PM

@(Team Kanohi) ASCII Are you running the autohotkey script?

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 22-Feb-18 06:34 PM

A fresh install and patch fixes the errors I stated a few minutes ago @Aurora (edited)

And how do I do that?

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:35 PM

Run the Debug Menu Fix program as admin.

It's in the install dir

Once the launcher comes out, there will be a button for it right in there to make it easier.

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:38 PM

Yeah, the function keys do nothing on Windows 10

Oh boy!

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:39 PM

Vahkiti (Liam) - Today at 6:33 PM @ Ascendancy Are you running the autohotkey script?

(edited)

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:39 PM

Shhh.. I didn't know that I wasn't looking at the most recent messages.

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:39 PM

Aurora 22-Feb-18 06:39 PM

1

I'm sorry for being inadequate

JrMasterModelBuilder 22-Feb-18 06:49 PM

F1 on some computers does other things by default, like change brightness or things like that.

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:49 PM

Not with this

I made sure that unlike the other functions, the F1 key was overwritten by the script

Meaning its original map does not function until it's disabled.

JrMasterModelBuilder 22-Feb-18 06:51 PM

I wouldn't bet on that working 100% of the time.

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 06:52 PM

Well even so I only did it for one person who said they didn't have a numpad.

The original controls still function.

Sukikyo 22-Feb-18 07:04 PM

when will the neogeo patch be functional?

Deleted User 22-Feb-18 07:05 PM

its gonna be ported to the neogeo?!

wake me up when it's on the atari jaguar cd

emily (peri) 22-Feb-18 07:12 PM

so I can report that a)this patch makes everything looks so much better aaa thanks and b) onu koro now crashes the game. I guess that's probably more dancing villager shenanigans?

Deleted User 22-Feb-18 07:13 PM

patch v0.007 - revenge of the dancy bois

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:14 PM

O_o

Deleted User 22-Feb-18 07:14 PM

they thirst for blood

nothing can stop them

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:16 PM

@Omega12 Can you confirm this as well?

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:16 PM

Confirm what

The dancing bois thirst for blood?

Deleted User 22-Feb-18 07:17 PM

the dancy bois are on their way to your house now

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:17 PM

Oh, ONU Koro crashing the game?

G-Bond 22-Feb-18 07:17 PM

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:17 PM

BACK THE FUCK OFF BOI

3

4

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:17 PM

Rood.

Sukikyo 22-Feb-18 07:18 PM

i have just noticed i have permission to delete mesagges

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:18 PM

Yeah, cause you're on one of the beaverhouse teams

Sukikyo 22-Feb-18 07:18 PM

must refrain from abusing this power (edited)

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:18 PM

Kek

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:18 PM

You came to the wrong Koro motherfucker

2

I've got the og bois and the chroniclers bois on my side you dancing freaks

Sukikyo 22-Feb-18 07:20 PM

i have the power of god and anime on my side

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:20 PM

These guys really are our Herobrine huh?

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:20 PM

They're better

can i patch over an already patched game?

I'm assuming so

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:21 PM

THat's what everyone else did as far as I know

Worked fine for me

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:22 PM

alright gonna try

everything is working a-ok

dancing bois render as well

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:27 PM

O_o

So now they're just containing their thirst for blood to a select few to confuse us.

Keep us on edge.

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:28 PM

which .exe should i be using

lego bionicle

or lego_bionicle

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:28 PM

???

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:28 PM

1

Deleted User 22-Feb-18 07:28 PM

which one's newer?

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

i opened the .exe but the label was ripped and was written in permanent marker

1

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

Oh ffs

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

there was a hyper realistic nobua on the screen

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

You fuck. xD

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

and suddenly he said in an old white guys voice

love is not canon

Sukikyo 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

and the SKELETON was YOU

1

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

no but for real

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

TAILS IS DEAD

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

there are 2 .exe's

Sukikyo 22-Feb-18 07:29 PM

and you WROTE THIS

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:30 PM

my pinned one launches LEGO_bionicle

which works

Deleted User 22-Feb-18 07:30 PM

@Omega12 so which one do you shoot?

(edited)

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:30 PM

There should only be one, and the original which is just called Lego Bionicle.exe.old

Why did you rename your original EXE?

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:30 PM

they both work

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:30 PM

It's never gonna be patched

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:30 PM

and render the boi's

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:30 PM

xD

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:31 PM

.old is my original

.old2 was the first patch

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:31 PM

ell nobody ever put Lego_bionicle in there with a patch.

That has to be something you did

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:31 PM

D:<

im gonna delete em and reinstall

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:31 PM

Aight

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:32 PM

oh

no i think that was me

emily (peri) 22-Feb-18 07:32 PM

hey, did you say the options on the front end dont work?

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:32 PM

i think i accidently renamed it one time

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:32 PM

@emily (peri) ye

emily (peri) 22-Feb-18 07:32 PM

cuz uh

they do for me

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:32 PM

How far?

YOu can go into the menus one layer

As far as I know

emily (peri) 22-Feb-18 07:32 PM

im in the glossary right now

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 07:33 PM

And selecting any of the options there softlocks

emily (peri) 22-Feb-18 07:33 PM

aaah, got it

Omega12 22-Feb-18 07:37 PM

Omega12 22-Feb-18 08:17 PM

ga-koro needs a platform added under the suva

or the suva lowered

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-18 08:18 PM

I could probably offset the model.

ShadowDraikana 22-Feb-18 10:08 PM

Kopaka's second energy spehere shows up as a white square.

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 04:21 AM

After installing latest patch I can't get into Nui Jaga cave. Game exits with exception error.

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 04:38 AM

When I opened help screen, I could not quit it. Space button does not helped.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 04:42 AM

From the top of this chat:

BEFORE REPORTING ANY BUGS, PLEASE CHECK THE KNOWN BUGS LIST IN #lomn-info-and-announcements

Just saying..

Thanks though.

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 04:45 AM

I thought new patch should fix bugs, and not add new ones. These problems did not existed before.

Aurora 23-Feb-18 04:46 AM

<_<

Rude

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 04:48 AM

Actually, the second one DID, and the first one just presented itself differently. Besides that, our patch notes list totally doesn't take up more characters than Discord can even display in a single message, but I guess you just couldn't be bothered reading that either. (edited)

Now.

This is your final warning to quit being an oppositional dick.

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 04:54 AM

Why you so angry at me?

Aurora 23-Feb-18 04:54 AM

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 04:54 AM

I just want to help make game better

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 04:54 AM

By basically telling me that we're not doing anything.

That we're not fixing anything.

That is not only an insult to myself, but to the entire team who have worked around the clock to make this game what it is now.

in little under two weeks, we've made the game from maybe a half hour of a glitchy mess to a 70% complete product.

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 04:56 AM

No. I admire your work. I did not want to insult you.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 04:56 AM

And you have the gall to tell us we aren't fixing anything.

Well you sure have a funny way of showing it man. :/ (edited)

If you wanna help make the game better, you can start by not acting like an ingrate.

We're doing the best we can here.

benji 23-Feb-18 04:58 AM

and then if you still want to help, get on these file formats! (edited)

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 04:58 AM

So, I need to be silent on any bugs that appear after your work?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 04:59 AM

That's not what I said.

(edited)

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 04:59 AM

That how I understand

benji 23-Feb-18 04:59 AM

Leave insults out of bug reports, leave known bugs out of bug reports.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 04:59 AM

Basically. (edited)

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 05:00 AM

@benji I reported a bug - and get insult in respond.

Aurora 23-Feb-18 05:00 AM

No, you posted an insult, and then listed a known bug

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:00 AM

I felt bad for a little bit after our argument yesterday cause I felt like I may have been a bit harsh myself, but it's almost like you're not even aware of what you're saying.

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 05:00 AM

When i posted insult?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:00 AM

Lehvak - Today at 4:45 AM I thought new patch should fix bugs, and not add new ones. These problems did not existed before.

Aurora 23-Feb-18 05:01 AM

"I thought new patch should fix bugs, and not add new ones."

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:01 AM

Implying that we're just sitting on our asses doing nothing here.

benji 23-Feb-18 05:01 AM

I think people should be actually helpful, not constantly reporting known bugs /s

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:02 AM

See, I was willing to let the known bug thing go, and I wasn't being passive aggressive about that. Just pointing out that we knew about those bugs.

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 05:02 AM

But what I should say If I played that area before, and now I get exception error?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:02 AM

It's on the known bugs list so.. nothing?

We even already know what causes it, and we're just waiting on the next version of Benji's tool for a fix. (edited)

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 05:05 AM

But that bug did not appear before. Why?

benji 23-Feb-18 05:05 AM

(remind me specifically what the issue was?)

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 05:06 AM

Nui Jaga cave

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:06 AM

@Lehvak Nuva it did, it just crashed when you dug the cave instead of outright. And this outright crash has been a known problem since 0.005

@benji Something specifically about the Main.x file in the Nui Jaga cave that makes the game flip out in combination with DGVoodoo.

Cycling it through TLOMNTool fixes the crash, at the expense of lighting.

benji 23-Feb-18 05:07 AM

Waiting for vertex colors might be awhile

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:07 AM

No rush.

At least from me. >-> THAT was me being passive aggressive btw. (edited)

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 05:08 AM

I think digging bug is not same as entering area with Nui Jaga. Sorry If i'm wrong

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:08 AM

It's the same area.

It just crashes a little earlier now.

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 05:08 AM

I hope you can fix that.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:09 AM

We will. These things just take time.

Especially when we know very little about how the game is made.

benji 23-Feb-18 05:10 AM

Also I have like a billion other side projects that I like to spend time on too, idk about you guys

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:11 AM

I've been staying up until like.. 6 or 7 in the morning these last couple of weeks working on this shit.

benji 23-Feb-18 05:11 AM

dude, don't

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:12 AM

I mean it's not like I have anything better to do.

I don't exactly work.

benji 23-Feb-18 05:12 AM

or school?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:12 AM

Not yet anyways. My living situation is complicated, but suffice to say it's bad enough that I can't focus on that right now. (edited)

Eventually planning to go for game design however, so this is productive for me regardless.

benji 23-Feb-18 05:13 AM

I can't wait to finish college so I can work, because work usually doesn't follow you home and haunt you with homework

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:14 AM

Pff true. BUT, it can screw up your plans when you least expect it to just as easily.

benji 23-Feb-18 05:16 AM

anyways I have to investigate the COLLADA details a bit more, I've only ever created meshes with one material, so splitting the index data apart for COLLADA export and then re-merging it for import will need to be done when I have a lot of uninterrupted time, which isn't something I see happening through the weekend

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:18 AM

Well as I've said before, we waited 17 years for this, what's another week or a month?

Maybe we'll have some other breakthroughs by then. Who knows. We got this far in two weeks. (edited)

Aurora 23-Feb-18 05:23 AM

And because Liam said that, nothing was done for 6 weeks...

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:25 AM

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:47 AM

Oh another thing. @JrMasterModelBuilder Do we have any idea what in the EXE may be setting off antiviruses?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 05:55 AM

Is anyone else having a problem with the patcher throwing a setup error whenever you try to install to a non-standard directory? I just got a report of that and WAS able to replicate it, but I can find no reason why it should be happening in the first place... (edited)

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 06:00 AM

Thank you very much for fixing Komau mask rendering in Pohatu level. But unfortunately I could not pick it up. I tried to find this mention early, but have not found. I'm sorry if you already know about this bug (if it a bug). Also, game still crashes at second location with Kane-Ra riding.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:00 AM

Couldn't pick it up? Okay that's new. What does happen then?

And yeah, the Kane-Ra is bugged. You can't let it charge from an idle position or else the game will crash. The way around it is to jump before it charges.

We'll get to that one

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 06:03 AM

Just after loading Kane-Ra roars and game crashes. I will try jumping next time.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:04 AM

No not that, I was asking what happens when you try to pick up the Komau. You said you couldn't?

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 06:06 AM

Nothing happens. I had to get this mask via debug menu.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:06 AM

So you just walk through the mask floating on the podium?

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 06:07 AM

It was solid.

Roy8012 23-Feb-18 06:11 AM

Just installed the patch but I don't see the placeholder textures at Frontend. Unless i'm missing something out?

Lehvak Nuva 23-Feb-18 06:11 AM

I tried one more time. Mask was floating and I pick it up!

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:13 AM

Weird. Well at least it works now. If you figure out how to replicate that one, let us know!

@Roy8012 Would you believe I was JUST going through my patch assets and noticed I forgot that?

(edited)

Roy8012 23-Feb-18 06:14 AM

WELP

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:14 AM

I'm gonna push a hotfix after I clean up the patch a bit

I noticed a lot of redundant files

So that's why I was going through

Roy8012 23-Feb-18 06:15 AM

Kden.

Perp3tual 23-Feb-18 06:17 AM

I think I know why the patch didn't work for Levahk that one time. When you change the directory, it adds on an extra part to the destination (/Beaverhouse/TLOMNPatch) You need to manually remove that so it ends in LEGO Bionicle. It installed for me correctly after that.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:18 AM

I think that's just a temp directory.

Then again maybe not, idk.

Did that result in a setup error for you?

Perp3tual 23-Feb-18 06:18 AM

When I didn't remove it yeah.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:19 AM

What's your process? I'm not quite sure I follow what's happening

Perp3tual 23-Feb-18 06:20 AM

I'll get you a screenshot asap

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:20 AM

OH I see

In the path of the the installer it adds that

Now why would it go and do that..?

it's throwing the setup error because it's trying to make the path with the game's title, that happens to have a colon.

Which is an invalid character for file names.

But why is it making an extra path in the first place..?

Perp3tual 23-Feb-18 06:23 AM

It even does it when I change it to the original location from the original location.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:24 AM

Okay I think I've found a workaround.

Removing the company name and changing the program name to LEGO Bionicle in the installer makes the correct paths

Perp3tual 23-Feb-18 06:26 AM

Yeah that's what I was getting at. It needs to end in LEGO Bionicle (or the name of the games folder) in order to work properly.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:26 AM

Well what I mean is I actually changed the installer's built in identifying info (edited)

So it now defaults to the correct path regardless

I'll push it with the hotfix

Perp3tual 23-Feb-18 06:27 AM

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 06:34 AM

Hotfix to v0.006 is live.

v0.006.1: • Fixed an issue with the patcher causing non-standard install paths to throw a setup error (Vahkiti) • Cleaned up redundant files in the installer (Vahkiti) • Replaced placeholder textures for Frontend (Vahkiti) • Increased the brightness of the game to 140% (Vahkiti)

(edited)

Roy8012 23-Feb-18 08:05 AM

Still don't see the placeholder textures and also didn't get the cutscene with Nobua at Onua's level + The Pakari didn't work for me when I tried pushing the stone. Dunno if you guys know this

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 08:14 AM

I found the problem, at least with the cutcene, and I'm assuming Onu-Koro as well. MAYBE the block?

@Omega12's fix to render the villagers in Kopaka and Lewa's takara stages breaks them everywhere else. Or at least in Onu-Koro

I'll revert it and push another hotfix

Thi' 23-Feb-18 08:15 AM

git commit -m "hotfix of hotfix of hotfix of patch"

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 08:16 AM

2

Roy8012 23-Feb-18 08:17 AM

Yeeaaah meant the block, sorry.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 08:19 AM

Yep, fixes that too

Hot fix should be up now btw

Omega, you might wanna have a look into this. In the meantime, I've reverted all changes to the vlgr folder.

Omega12 23-Feb-18 08:31 AM

Hmm ok

I've been able to push the block no problem and see the dances

So ill look into it tonight

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 08:32 AM

Okay

Also did you find any leads on your slib discovery?

I'm looking into it now, but Idk what I'd use to read the files

Roy8012 23-Feb-18 08:36 AM

Huh. The patch said it couldn't extract the Debug Menu Fix.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 08:37 AM

Probably because you left it running

Just hit ignore

Roy8012 23-Feb-18 08:41 AM

A'ight, the cutscene with Nobua works and I can push the block now.

1

YEP, I left it running.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 08:43 AM

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:14 AM

Still getting setup errors in alternate directories... I tried applying the patch to the default directory, giving the aforementioned debug script error even when the game was not running. Even worse, before trying this patch, upon restarting my computer with the 0.005 build, it looks like VGVoodoo kicked in, making the game bug out trying to force itself into fullscreen, then failing and minimizing it, rendering it unplayable when it worked fine previously.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:17 AM

Are you using 0.006 or 0.006.1?

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:18 AM

The one that was available for download AFTER 0.006.1 was announced.

The one that can be obtained through BMP, which doesn't have the .1 identifier on it.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:22 AM

Is it still adding the extra directory to your path in the installer?

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:23 AM

Redownloaded the patcher for the fourth time. Not anymore, but now I get this error.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:25 AM

It should only do that when the file is in use. Is the process for the game or DVoodoo still running? Check the task manager.

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:26 AM

Trying again. What even is DVoodoo?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:26 AM

It's a directx wrapper that specializes in older games. It uses custom DLLs to hook into a game's process, then emulates older graphics hardware to correct any issues the game may have on modern systems.

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:29 AM

Now it's back to throwing setup errors.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:30 AM

I legitimately don't know what to day. I can't replicate the issue on my end anymore.

What path is it trying to create in the installer after you choose one? (edited)

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:33 AM

Back to its old antics, getting the Beaverhouse folder again.

This is after another fresh download.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:33 AM

Delete that beaverhouse directory and try again. You're also still not answering my question.

Is it still trying to DO that beaverhouse folder or something related in the installer?

And if so, are you certain you're running the right installer? The version number should be listed on the first screen of it as 0.006.1 (edited)

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:35 AM

It doesn't have the .1 at the end, and as I've said, I've followed the link every time both through here and BMP every time I say "fresh download."

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:36 AM

I just thought maybe you'd have multiple in your downloads folder. *shrugs *

Let me check the server

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:36 AM

So I've been trying to download it.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:36 AM

Maybe my upload didn't take for some reason

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:38 AM

This is what the wizard says upon a download from a minute ago.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:39 AM

Yeah you should be getting this:

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:40 AM

Then the patch must not have fully gone through... but haven't other people installed the correct patch?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:40 AM

Oh

Oh I'm a bloody moron

I guess not cause

I accidentally uploaded it to the working directory for the launcher

xD

Try now

Roy8012 23-Feb-18 09:47 AM

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:48 AM

Aaaaaaand now it's being treated as a virus. Chrome blocked it, I downloaded it through... Edge... shudders and then Norton decided to kill it. Kinda weird since I was able to get Norton to restore the previous patches and they could work fine, but now it feels like being a little bitch.

Probably nothing you can do about that.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:49 AM

Did you whitelist it before?

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 09:49 AM

Yes.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 09:49 AM

That would explain it, cause in order to work around the Beaverhouse path issue, I had to change the installer's identifying info.

So it's being read as an entirely different program.

Alia of AGL 23-Feb-18 10:02 AM

The patch is now installed. However, FMVs are no longer dummied out and play weird and Alt-Tabbing makes the game unresponsive.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-18 10:08 AM

I am just losing my edge today, geez. Looks like I messed up the path for one of the fmvs in the installer. Just rename it to have .old at the end and it'll be dummied fine. Still gotta fix that issue but yeh

I should take a nap. xP

ShadowDraikana 23-Feb-18 10:53 AM

Oh great so Chrome blocks the download?

Deleted User 23-Feb-18 12:38 PM

today?

you lost your edge yesterday too

ShadowDraikana 23-Feb-18 04:37 PM

Kopaka's elemental powers will not "fire" unless he is moving.

Omega12 23-Feb-18 04:57 PM

Kopaka's elemental power is ice

ShadowDraikana 23-Feb-18 04:58 PM

lol

Deleted User 23-Feb-18 05:11 PM

it won't ice unless it's moving

Galgo 23-Feb-18 06:31 PM

new patch seems to be giving me a black screen

chat search tells me it hasn't been fixed yet

Omega12 23-Feb-18 07:53 PM

runt he exe as admin

*compatibility mode for xp

Omega12 23-Feb-18 08:29 PM

i can confirm onua and pohatu work even with the changes i've made

ShadowDraikana 23-Feb-18 08:29 PM

?

Omega12 23-Feb-18 08:33 PM

someone reported that the dances werent working

BioMaster(André) 24-Feb-18 07:46 AM

Nui-Jaga boss area seems to crash on my end

ShadowDraikana 24-Feb-18 07:48 AM

Known. Does it crash upon entering the cave? And are you on Win10?

BioMaster(André) 24-Feb-18 07:48 AM

Yes

and Yes

also running on compatability to WinXP

ShadowDraikana 24-Feb-18 07:48 AM

That one is a known problem

Somehow the model of the map is causing an issue, because when Vahkiti ran it through beji's tool, the area worked at the cost of the normal lighting.

BioMaster(André) 24-Feb-18 07:50 AM

Huh

hopefully it's fixed later

ShadowDraikana 24-Feb-18 07:50 AM

That whole room has issues basically

Especially considering the digging walls cause shutd downs

BioMaster(André) 24-Feb-18 07:51 AM

My workaround that was to jump in that certain spot to get to the matoran and then warp back to the exit

ShadowDraikana 24-Feb-18 07:51 AM

Yeah that works.

I've come up with a theory on why the walls cause a shut down, but I can't test it until we get the slb and osi files open.

Basically I think the wall models for the digging process aren't being called properly, and the game treats it the same way air bubbles get treated in Gali's level: a shut down. Possible fix is to use the working components from Clf1 (which has a non-crashing digging wall) and hopefully replace whatever is broken withn the slb or osi; whichever is causing an issue.

BioMaster(André) 24-Feb-18 07:56 AM

Sounds good

Btw even with the workaround I did I still couldn't progress much after getting the Ruru(mask of night vision) because of the cave where I need to go that crashes

Hopefully Onua's level is fully playable one day

ShadowDraikana 24-Feb-18 07:59 AM

If we get the ocl files solved, we can likely get Pzzl working again.

BioMaster(André) 24-Feb-18 08:00 AM

I hope you can get those files working correctly

ShadowDraikana 24-Feb-18 08:01 AM

Jakeoff relayed a message from me to the one dev who expressed interest in this project, so hopefully we get insight into the files. Otherwise we'd need someone professional to crack them at this rate.

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Excellionus11 (Samuel) 24-Feb-18 08:30 AM

That will be really good if we can get an old dev on board

YaBoiDriftKing 24-Feb-18 10:39 AM

A bug I encountered: When starting a new game from the front end, in-game cutscenes don't seem to trigger.

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 24-Feb-18 10:39 AM

I seem to get that issue too. Not sure what causes it

Kaytorahk 24-Feb-18 10:43 AM

I guess thats why there are no cut scenes in redquarks version

Swordsworth 24-Feb-18 12:26 PM

That's actually a really good find

I didnt think of that

Try the takara in this state

emily (peri) 24-Feb-18 02:39 PM

it mmmight be that's the reason the deep brick version doesn't play cutscenes, but its already got a replacement for nobua without them, so

also the dialogue that is in it is really pared down from the alpha. seems more like there was a process of de-story contentification at some point

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-18 03:24 PM

Interesting...

The Shadow Emperor 24-Feb-18 03:39 PM

I'm more curious about why the DB version has gray Matoran

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-18 03:43 PM

Perhaps the same reason?

ON THAT NOTE

@ShadowDraikana The reason they still have features in that build is because the bump maps are working.

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 24-Feb-18 04:36 PM

for me, the debug menu still does the fast move thing

@V A H K I T I How do I make sure I am always on the latest patch, since I have the z-buffer fix but not the debug menu fix

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-18 04:44 PM

Are you running the autohotkey script?

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 24-Feb-18 04:45 PM

I am not sure. How do I check?

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-18 04:48 PM

If you don't know, then you're clearly not.

Run the debug menu fix EXE from the install folder as admin

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 24-Feb-18 04:48 PM

ok

Thanks for the help Liam!

That is MUCH better. Thanks for pointing that out

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-18 04:50 PM

:3

YaBoiDriftKing 24-Feb-18 10:10 PM

Found another big bug. I was in Tahu's level in Vakama's room after the haka. Toward the far side of the room, there is a weird orange glowing thing on some kind of table or pedestal. I walked up to it to see what would happen when I touched it, and my entire computer froze. Couldn't do anything. Had to manually restart it.

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-18 10:22 PM

O_o

ShadowDraikana 24-Feb-18 10:33 PM

Yeah the freeze happens with the ice bridge in Kopaka'a level as well. It's a strange variant of the crash.

YaBoiDriftKing 24-Feb-18 10:49 PM

Going back to the level, it looks like some mushrooms.

DON'T TOUCH THE MUSHROOMS

Omega12 24-Feb-18 11:34 PM

1

Deleted User 25-Feb-18 05:22 PM

i don't get it

what am i looking at here?

Omega12 25-Feb-18 05:25 PM

it's from star trek discovery

Stamets uses a mushroom network to navigate around the universe

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 25-Feb-18 05:28 PM

why is he holding a tardigrade?

Omega12 25-Feb-18 06:38 PM

im not gonna spoil star trek discovery for you

Excellionus11 (Samuel) 25-Feb-18 06:40 PM

I honestly won't watch it so you can msg me and spoil it

joint-Dogg666 25-Feb-18 06:40 PM

Is Discovery worth the price of admission?

Omega12 25-Feb-18 06:42 PM

i enjoyed it

i feel like half the fun was bitching about it though :p

joint-Dogg666 25-Feb-18 06:43 PM

Fair enough

That's half the fun of Voyager, too

Omega12 25-Feb-18 07:05 PM

heyheyhey

I like Voyager

don't mock my nebula full of coffee

bonk 25-Feb-18 08:37 PM

Just lurking here, but - do any of the patches released so far force vsync on? It looks like some things in the game speed up with the framerate (clouds in the sky for example)

V A H K I T I 25-Feb-18 08:38 PM

What patch are you using?

Cause that was fixed like.. three patches ago.

bonk 25-Feb-18 08:38 PM

Was just curious, just downloaded the game and messing with it

ShadowDraikana 25-Feb-18 09:24 PM

@Omega12 Ayy another fan of Voyager.

Omega12 25-Feb-18 09:25 PM

ye

liquidelectricity 26-Feb-18 08:51 PM

since the last patch, PrtScn no longer works. any fix to this?

Omega12 26-Feb-18 08:53 PM

oh

i was having that issue too

ShadowDraikana 26-Feb-18 11:51 PM

Same here. I can't change the volume or use PrtScrn in-game since the third patch.

@V A H K I T I Lewa's normal elemental ball renders normally, but the upgraded one does not. Same with Kopaka.

V A H K I T I 26-Feb-18 11:52 PM

Weird

ShadowDraikana 26-Feb-18 11:53 PM

Also, you cannot use Kopaka's elemental balls unless he is moving.

Deleted User 27-Feb-18 02:29 AM

so what you're saying is

his balls are frozen when inert?

Aurora 27-Feb-18 02:50 AM

Snickers

2

Ibbie 27-Feb-18 03:23 AM

He needs momentum to swing them around.

Aurora 27-Feb-18 03:46 AM

Snicker turns into a chuckle

2

Perp3tual 27-Feb-18 04:28 AM

"It's only gets like this when it's cold."

Aurora 27-Feb-18 04:35 AM

Bursts out laughing

Ay Star 27-Feb-18 06:10 AM

kind minor but hitting escape on level one when pushing the rock to open the door in the cave seemed to partially crash the game with a windows noise, although after hitting it again it resumed, maybe it was just a glitchy pause in the cutscene?

Ay Star 27-Feb-18 06:52 AM

don't know if it's reported but on lv 1 when you get to that cliff platforming, if you walk off the edge a couple times and try to pull yourself up you'll end up stuck in a death-cam screen.

Also there's this https://i.gyazo.com/dd3bd40e229dc0b76a073089d56e8264.gif

Fobo 27-Feb-18 12:50 PM

So landing on the first platform in TA02 has been giving me a consistent crash

Gatanui 27-Feb-18 04:37 PM

About the Windows key or volume keys not working, I get that, too.

It can be fixed by Alt-tabbing out of the game and back again.

Then all keys work normally.

Omega12 27-Feb-18 06:55 PM

typo (edited)

2Tie 27-Feb-18 07:09 PM

conversation text is just in one of the files in the level folder (edited)

Omega12 27-Feb-18 07:09 PM

yeah

editing it is weird though

2Tie 27-Feb-18 07:09 PM

replacing a single letter should be harmless

Omega12 27-Feb-18 07:09 PM

it's not a single letter though

needs an extra added

2Tie 27-Feb-18 07:09 PM

us -> is?

Omega12 27-Feb-18 07:10 PM

im thinking makuta is a species

:V

i was thinking are

2Tie 27-Feb-18 07:10 PM

the makuta is an entity

Omega12 27-Feb-18 07:10 PM

in 2001 yeah

but later on they're a species

2Tie 27-Feb-18 07:10 PM

and this game is 2001

Omega12 27-Feb-18 07:11 PM

it's hard to cut off the lore at a certain date though

2Tie 27-Feb-18 07:11 PM

look at the keyboard and you can see it was a finger slip, replacing a single letter typo is fine lol

Omega12 27-Feb-18 07:12 PM

yeah

im agreeing with you

just explaining how i got confused

2Tie 27-Feb-18 07:14 PM

ah

DarkTakanuva 28-Feb-18 05:31 PM

~~forget anything after 2001~~

LukasExemplar 28-Feb-18 05:31 PM

Whether or not the Makuta are a species or not is irrelevant though, as even after we were told this, Teridax was stille called "the Makuta/Makuta" by characters. It had become a habit for them, in canon.

Doctor U 01-Mar-18 02:16 AM

I disliked how boring Makuta got after his name was revealed to be Greg's WoW character. It was too far from maori terms

EvilJagaGenius 01-Mar-18 09:24 AM

wait that's where Teridax came from? Lol

2Tie 01-Mar-18 11:08 AM

yeah

Deleted User 01-Mar-18 12:34 PM

wait what?

no wonder he got so assblasted

Alia of AGL 01-Mar-18 01:54 PM

I thought he named his WoW character after Teridax, not the other way around. (edited)

2Tie 01-Mar-18 03:13 PM

hi

2Tie 01-Mar-18 03:26 PM

have you at any point changed a file called bionicle.ini?

you need to copy the file to somewhere else before you change it, and then copy it back in

2Tie 01-Mar-18 03:53 PM

it's the launcher

my windows thought the lomn installer was a virus lol

that's exactly what the bitly links to

2Tie 01-Mar-18 04:08 PM

you've already tried this and the one above this, right? (edited)

changing svprad to 1 and/or svpother to 2? (edited)

Deleted User 01-Mar-18 04:31 PM

@Makuta the reason the antivirus is going off is because the launcher doesn't have a digital certificate

just ignore it

ShadowDraikana 02-Mar-18 03:46 PM

tries to solve a crash Bionicle.exe has stopped working. fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuck (edited)

Deleted User 02-Mar-18 03:59 PM

isn't that the idea?

ShadowDraikana 02-Mar-18 08:16 PM

I'm going to try out the launcher tomorrow, so we'll see if anything goes haywire on my end

Fobo 03-Mar-18 10:17 PM

So TA05 keeps crashing on me

Deleted User 03-Mar-18 10:18 PM

add it to the list

ShadowDraikana 03-Mar-18 10:18 PM

Outright or in a specific spot?

Doesn't crash for me.

Which patch are you on?

@Fobo

Fobo 03-Mar-18 10:42 PM

latest

I mean, I am using the installer RN

Also as soon as i try to load it

ShadowDraikana 03-Mar-18 10:45 PM

Does it just exit abruptly or does it throw an unhandled exception?

Fobo 03-Mar-18 10:47 PM

unhandled exception

Want the code?

ShadowDraikana 03-Mar-18 10:47 PM

Please.

Fobo 03-Mar-18 10:47 PM

alright, give me a moment

Well, it worked via warp

I'll try going all the way to it

ShadowDraikana 03-Mar-18 10:49 PM

I'm thinking it was this game's instability (random crash)

because working room doorways crash at random for me. Kopaka's level is an example of this.

Fobo 03-Mar-18 10:51 PM

I understand the game is super unstable but TA05 has been really consistent for me

ShadowDraikana 03-Mar-18 10:52 PM

Going in from the door?

But warping in works?

@V A H K I T I Any chance the patch broke this area?

V A H K I T I 03-Mar-18 10:53 PM

No problems on my end

Fobo 03-Mar-18 10:59 PM

huh

So uhh

Its not happening anymore

blame it on unstability I guess (edited)

UTTER_BODGE 05-Mar-18 05:42 PM

anyone fixed that text yet? should probably be a "like" in there

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Mar-18 05:47 PM

Fun. I just re did that file lol

UTTER_BODGE 05-Mar-18 05:54 PM

[sad trombone]

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Mar-18 05:56 PM

@UTTER_BODGE

Attachment: Lev5_eng.slb (5.12 KB)

V A H K I T I 05-Mar-18 05:57 PM

@Hexadecimal Mantis You should be PMing these fixes to me btw, cause I'm making the patches and also might not see them here. Just saying.

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Mar-18 05:57 PM

ah didn't know

V A H K I T I 05-Mar-18 05:58 PM

No harm done. Just a heads up.

Omega12 05-Mar-18 06:23 PM

Ooh mantis got in trouble

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Mar-18 06:24 PM

Not unusual. I'm an edgelord

kek

Omega12 05-Mar-18 06:51 PM

Lol

ShadowDraikana 05-Mar-18 07:20 PM

lol

Can someone confirm if that file above also fixes the blue spider text?

UTTER_BODGE 05-Mar-18 10:58 PM

any idea why some pickups are invisible(?)

like, there's four tokens to the left on onua's beach but only three visible (edited)

dunno if the fourth is just misplaced under the terrain and still collectible, or just not rendering, or what

ok no it's not under the terrain or anything

ShadowDraikana 05-Mar-18 11:00 PM

You using the latest patch?

UTTER_BODGE 05-Mar-18 11:00 PM

I think so?

how new is the latest

#litestone-announcements seems a bit out of date

or no maybe not

I guess I am on the latest, then

UTTER_BODGE 05-Mar-18 11:11 PM

ptv2 has another case of it, though this one's even weirder

there's three powerups you can grab

and the effects for grabbing them don't appear in the right places for any

I just ran into the space to the left of the visible ones in the first screenshot

the one to the right of me (leftmost visible one) vanished

happened on the vanilla unpatched game too btw

haven't encountered it on any levels but onua's so far

collecting them from right to left works properly, aside from the leftmost one being invisible

left to right is wacky

...... a third one appeared to the left of the others for a split second and disappeared

ghostly mining equipment

ShadowDraikana 05-Mar-18 11:19 PM

Fixed that

Texture issue

It's going to be in the next patcj

The pick is barfed too if you look carefully

Pick is using the canister texture and the hammer is using a "light" translucent texture

UTTER_BODGE 05-Mar-18 11:21 PM

hah

ShadowDraikana 05-Mar-18 11:22 PM

This isn't fixed in tje beta either

Deleted User 08-Mar-18 10:56 AM

funny thing happened while starting lewa's level...

Attachment: weirdbug.mp4 (35.8 MB)

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V A H K I T I 08-Mar-18 10:59 AM

JakEoB 08-Mar-18 05:19 PM

Freerey 09-Mar-18 08:18 PM

welp.....version 0.0006 crashes for no reason, just like the last one

idk what's wrong with my computer

I'll figure it out

just don't understand why it automatically shuts down

Omega12 09-Mar-18 10:12 PM

Did you run it as administrator?

And in compatibility mode for xp sp3

ShadowDraikana 09-Mar-18 10:16 PM

Running it for SP2 works for me

Kaytorahk 09-Mar-18 11:42 PM

2000 SP4

Freerey 10-Mar-18 12:21 AM

Yes I did Omega

And it worked fine before

There is no reason for it to be acting up now

But whatever; I'm not really in a hurry to fix this, since I have my own stuff to work on this break

Bitl 10-Mar-18 08:08 AM

try messing with the DGVooDoo settings. If nothing works just tick this checkbox in the DirectX tab

ShadowDraikana 10-Mar-18 08:18 AM

It's a bit frustrating that we have to do that because the game looks like shit when you do that. @V A H K I T I I'm going to PM my specs here to see if you can find a reason why most of the fixes for graphical issues simply aren't working normally for me. I'm also seeing the blue screen under water, which I thought had been fixed. Not to mention there's this bizarre shadow screen burn-in going on now.

These issues are on my laptop only so far and have consistently been an issue from the get go.

V A H K I T I 10-Mar-18 11:21 AM

What fixes aren't working that aren't handled by DGVoodoo? The blue screen thing was never fixed namely because it couldn't be replicated on our systems.

ShadowDraikana 10-Mar-18 11:22 AM

I can't get DGVoodoo to run the game without triggering a crash unless Disable and passthru to DX is checked.

So no idea what would be fixed by running it

This laptop is incredibly finicky

V A H K I T I 10-Mar-18 11:23 AM

The only things fixed by DGVoodoo are forced window mode, brightness increase, screen transitions, and the uncapped FPS causing fast objects and skies.

ShadowDraikana 10-Mar-18 11:27 AM

Basically it loads the intro videos, goes to a white-screened menu, and crashes.

when in windowed mode

I have absolutely no issues running it on my older desktop though

V A H K I T I 10-Mar-18 11:28 AM

Have you tried running the game in Nointro mode? Those shouldn't even be on right now.

ShadowDraikana 10-Mar-18 11:29 AM

no intro seems to work about 50% of the time.

Again, I have no idea why my laptop is so finicky

V A H K I T I 10-Mar-18 11:32 AM

It might be an integrated Intel GPU issue. THat's the best I can guess.

ShadowDraikana 10-Mar-18 11:32 AM

That's what I was afraid of.

ShadowDraikana 11-Mar-18 02:49 PM

@V A H K I T I Issue 71 needs to be deleted if possible as it was mistakenly created.

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 10:46 AM

Created an issue for the Ga-Koro Takara and self-assigned myself and @Omega12 to it. @Hexadecimal Mantis Would you like to look into this as well? We think the issue is the cin3_cam.slb in the Lev2 folder. Basically we need to know what in there defines the dancer positions.

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 10:59 AM

Yell at me if you want @V A H K I T I, but I labeled some issues and stuffed them into the unaddressed bin for now.

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:21 AM

Currently investigating issue 69.

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V A H K I T I 12-Mar-18 04:03 PM

@ShadowDraikana That's fine.

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 06:21 PM

Idk what's up with 69 because the doors have rendered fine for me before.

I'm going to check the vanilla game and each patch version to see if it was changed somehow

Freerey 12-Mar-18 08:36 PM

oh so here's what I get when I try to play LoMN right now on my main PC: unhandled win32 exception occurred in LEGO Bionicle.exe [20008]

VS tells me this

if I continue

every time I press continue from there on, it shows the second image

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 10:06 PM

Hmm.

The doors DO render

But not when you're swimming

O_o

Also this is a new one

Btw you can see the shadow burn in issue there, but look at Lewa

the fuck is going on

This occurs when you back into a wall, thus triggering the toa transparency. Using the Ruru does this weird shit

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:02 PM

Going back to the doors in GLY3, it's linked to the swimming animation/water textures somehow.

btw who here is PeabodySam?

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Mar-18 11:20 PM

The fuck? Somebody tried signing into my discord account from new york

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:24 PM

Wha?

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Mar-18 11:24 PM

idk I guess someone doesn't like me

V A H K I T I 12-Mar-18 11:25 PM

O_o

emily (peri) 12-Mar-18 11:28 PM

so as of the latest patch, both onu-koro and gly3 still crash for me. I know most people aren't experiencing that, but, is there anything I could do that might fix whatever is up?

fresh install maybe?

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:28 PM

@Omega12 Which char files did you use to fix Nuju and Vakama renders in their huts?

Omega12 12-Mar-18 11:30 PM

Uhhhhhhhhh

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:30 PM

Because now they render in their doorways like Nokama

Omega12 12-Mar-18 11:30 PM

Yeah

I used nokama

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:30 PM

That's why

Omega12 12-Mar-18 11:30 PM

Fun fact, the render where you spawn

I used nokamas as a template, but they're completely new slbs

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:31 PM

Do those contain the actual spawn positions?

Omega12 12-Mar-18 11:31 PM

Yeah, but they're the same as your spawn

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:32 PM

Let's change it then

Omega12 12-Mar-18 11:32 PM

You figured out how to get cords after I got those done

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:32 PM

I can do it now if you'd like

(coordinates)

Omega12 12-Mar-18 11:32 PM

If you want,

Those files actually have coords lol

ShadowDraikana 12-Mar-18 11:35 PM

Shit I gotta run. I'll take this one off of your back unless you'd like to do it

Omega12 12-Mar-18 11:48 PM

It's alot easier for you to get cords

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 01:43 AM

I tried downloading the new launcher but it's saying "This app can't run on my PC" And mine's Windows 10 and built for gaming. is there something i should know?

I'm not good with computers BTW so i need help

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 01:45 AM

What are your system specs?

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 01:56 AM

how do i look those up?

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:00 AM

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:02 AM

Processor: Intel Core i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20 GHz

8.00 GB RAM

64 bit

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:03 AM

Is it the installer that fails or the launcher itself?

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:04 AM

installer

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:04 AM

O_o

Can I get a screenshot of what exactly it's doing?

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:07 AM

it pops up when i click on the Bionicle Launcher .EXE

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:08 AM

I have legitimately no idea why that would happen.

@makuty the bionic man Activate..?

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:08 AM

what compatabilty should it be in

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:08 AM

None for the installer

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:09 AM

huh...

well norton360 also prevents me from going to Biomedia too so might have something to do with that.

I always disable it tho

I'll uninstall the old game version i have. maybe that might work?

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:13 AM

Doubtful if you can't even run the installer to begin with. o.O

Try redownloading it? Maybe your download got corrupted somehow

The installer I mean

Should be BIONICLE Launcher Installer.exe

ScrapMetaru 13-Mar-18 02:15 AM

Well, I figured out my glitch. Turns out when Avast stops the installer from running, the installer gets confused. Tell anyone else to try disabling their antivirus if the thing won't even start.

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:16 AM

Noted.

@Team Litestone We still gotta try and do something about this issue.

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-Mar-18 02:19 AM

Is the installer 64-bit?

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:20 AM

FFFFFfffffffunnel Cakes!

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:20 AM

Just click more info and then run

At least that's progress though

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:20 AM

I hate Norton!

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:20 AM

@Orikume (Space Waifu) That's not Norton though, that's Windows Smartscreen.

@JrMasterModelBuilder I'm not sure how I'd check that, but it shouldn't be?

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:24 AM

Welp...

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:24 AM

Just disable your antivirus for now.

Either way, seems like the corrupted download idea was right, otherwise you wouldn't even be getting this far.

On a semi-related note, I would recommend switching antivirus. Avast or Kapersky maybe? Norton is outdated, inaccurate, and practically a damn virus in and of itself.

@makuty the bionic man Ya still need help with something my dude?

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:34 AM

thanks @V A H K I T I

Thank Mata Nui! It works

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:34 AM

Ayy

Weird, it's not installing the fonts though..

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:35 AM

???

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:35 AM

It's supposed to install custom fonts with it for the launcher

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:36 AM

oh.

Well the base game is downloading. maybe that will do it?

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:36 AM

Nah

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:37 AM

well the important thing is i have it now. Although I assume i will need to disable norton each time i wanna play it...

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:38 AM

Okay I found the problem, it's not even copying the fonts for some reason. Hmmmm.

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:40 AM

easy fix tho? BTW love the dancy boi. Damn the matoran are adorable in this game. their little panic cry is the best.

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:40 AM

It is actually yes.

Because I am dumb

And didn't even INCLUDE the fonts.

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:41 AM

LOL

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:41 AM

The Beaverhouse: The epitome of professionalism

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:41 AM

everyone makes mistakes.

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:41 AM

Yeeeah, but we do far too often.

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:43 AM

eh. I don't mind. You all rock!

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:43 AM

❤

Uploading the fix now. No need to redownload manually. You'll be notified next time you start the launcher.

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:46 AM

Noice! my game is at like 75% download. Got pretty far in Onua's level in an earlier ver. Got out of the village but i went into a cave and the game crashed.

again in an earlier ver.

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 02:46 AM

The Nui Jaga cave unfortunately still crashes, but the one in question works now!

If you want to avoid the Nui Jaga crash, just don't dig the walls there and give yourself the long grapple claw under abilities in the debug menu (edited)

The rest of the level is playable after that

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-Mar-18 02:48 AM

Awesome!

Oh! it's finished

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 03:08 AM

Noice

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 03:48 AM

i dunno if anyone's noticed this yet

but if you start a new game from the front end, then quit

it exits the game with no error

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Deleted User 13-Mar-18 04:03 AM

also, the nobua cutscene doesn't load when starting from the front end

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 04:29 AM

might be why no cutscenes appeared in the deepbrick run

JustinMunaro 13-Mar-18 06:00 AM

Hello there ! I’m glad to say that the game works on my iMac thanks to Bootcamp on Windows 8.1, but I have a black bar at the bottom (I saw on the GitHub that someone had the same issue on Windows 10) is there any way to fix it on my end or should I wait for a patch ?

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 06:07 AM

yeah, we're kinda stuck with the black bar for the time being

at least until someone figures that out

JustinMunaro 13-Mar-18 06:29 AM

Ok thanks ! At least I can play the game

The Shadow Emperor 13-Mar-18 11:13 AM

I'm not sure the Nobua cutscene's absence from the beta build is a glitch. They changed the game's opening quite a bit.

Onu-Koro is infested with Rahi in the beta. The scene where Onua meets the Matoran doesn't work if the village is under attack. And if that scene is removed, the first Nobua cutscene also has to go.

Bitl 13-Mar-18 12:45 PM

@V A H K I T I do you know that you can include the fonts with the html file so you don't have to install them

benji 13-Mar-18 01:25 PM

@Bitl unless he wants to use them in the C# UI

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 01:48 PM

i thought he wrote it in visual basic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU

xerohour

GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI

Hi Reddit! /u/xerohour Fair use claim: -this serves an educational purpose in demonstrating computer illiteracy as it pertains to American Television -the cl...

benji 13-Mar-18 01:50 PM

yeah it's VB, my bad

My point still stands

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-Mar-18 01:51 PM

Speaking of C#, I should probably start using it more

I have an irrational portability fear

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-Mar-18 02:50 PM

Rust > C#, IMO

2

1

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 03:03 PM

next you'll tell me a code of conduct for an open source project is a good thing "watch what you say on twitter or anywhere else, or you're off the project~!"

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-Mar-18 03:05 PM

C# is just Java by Microsoft

Rust compiles to native, while making many security bugs and mistakes impossible.

And Cargo is a great tool.

Terrev 13-Mar-18 03:56 PM

I have a notification for an @ in here, but no @

It's not going away

Even mark as read isn't working

Can someone actually @ me directly so discord will catch up

Brickome (Jeremy) 13-Mar-18 04:01 PM

@Terrev

Terrev 13-Mar-18 04:02 PM

That did it

benji 13-Mar-18 04:16 PM

Well, you can compile C# to native binary with the official ngen tool, but the benefits really are inconsequential (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 06:00 PM

@Team Litestone Anyone wanna see what's up with this? I'm working on something currently.

ShadowDraikana 13-Mar-18 06:01 PM

I have no idea

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-Mar-18 06:11 PM

@Makuty the bionic man Fully confident they will look into this and have it dealt with. Don't worry!

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 06:13 PM

@Makuty the bionic man http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 06:14 PM

I would normally say be nice, but this guy has spammed this same question 6 different times on the trailer video, 8 different times by DM, and at least twice here already. I tried helping him last night when he posted in here but he never responded.

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-Mar-18 06:17 PM

He's just eager to play the game guys; we've all been there.

(edited)

lol that picture isn't a cat, but yes that is me. everybody thinks that.

It's fine, it's fine, it's an LDD render of a Minecraft texture I made in 2011 of a Bionicle OC I made in 2006.

Bring this over to #beaverhouse-general k boi?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-Mar-18 06:27 PM

[6:25 PM] QSKSw (Josie): Pffft, you're fine, you're fine.

We try to keep these specific five channels as tidy as possible, but we're not going to make a big deal out of it.

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 06:32 PM

Can anyone else on a 32 bit system confirm the launcher is working?

It SHOULD as far as I know, but if @Makuty the bionic man is having issues, it might not. I wasn't able to test.

Protokuta 13-Mar-18 09:02 PM

I'm actually having the same issue that Makuty is. The launcher acts like it's loading for a couple seconds, then stops and does nothing.

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 09:37 PM

Specs?

Protokuta 13-Mar-18 10:55 PM

These are my specs. I'm notoriously bad with this kind of thing, so the cause of my issue being a user error is a distinct possibility.

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 11:03 PM

@Makuty the bionic man your specs is your hardware configuration

i.e. the stuff you see in that pic

Protokuta 13-Mar-18 11:04 PM

Just Google it

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 11:04 PM

@Protokuta those are some pretty low tier specs goddamn

Protokuta 13-Mar-18 11:04 PM

It's an old computer

Deleted User 13-Mar-18 11:04 PM

@Makuty the bionic man right click "my computer">properties

Ehm 13-Mar-18 11:07 PM

rating system is flawed

just takes your worst score

lol

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 11:15 PM

Why are you running 32-bit windows off a 64-bit CPU? O_o (edited)

You... do know you can run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit OS right? (edited)

Okay so... one program didn't work, that totally means that none work right?

That's how technology works, is it?

(edited)

Well don't ever complain to somebody about speed issues then because the way you're set up, you can cut that quad core CPU's power in half.

(edited)

Have you tried reinstalling it?

Just redownload it?

Protokuta 13-Mar-18 11:55 PM

What about me? Is my computer just not up to snuff? I understand if you don't have any ideas as to what the problem is. It is a notoriously buggy unreleased game, after all. I don't expect it to work all the time.

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 11:56 PM

I'm just not sure what to suggest at this point. You two have completely different systems with the same result. (edited)

Are you on Windows 8 too? Maybe that's the issue?

Protokuta 13-Mar-18 11:58 PM

I'm on Windows 10

V A H K I T I 13-Mar-18 11:59 PM

Whelp..

What's the exact process up to the failure? Are there any errors from the installer? Any antivirus or smartscreen popups? (edited)

If your antivirus is say, picking a file out of the launcher's folder and quarantining it, that could cause problems. (edited)

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 12:04 AM

I click on the launcher, I get a prompt asking if I want to run the unknown software, I click yes, my cursor gets the little spinning blue circle next to it for a few seconds, it disappears, and then nothing.

Does it tell you if it quarantines something?

N3CR0 14-Mar-18 12:19 AM

i keep getting an unhandled exception error

could be because im using windows ten ;-;

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 12:22 AM

I got that when I tried to launch the game directly

N3CR0 14-Mar-18 12:22 AM

is there a way around it?

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 12:23 AM

I dunno. Another guy was getting the same error message as me, and was told that it may have been audio related.

N3CR0 14-Mar-18 12:29 AM

if anyone can help that'd be great ;w;

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 12:33 AM

I really don't know what to say. If you knew how to use a debugger, I'd suggest you run it through that and tell us where the RIP point is, but I couldn't even begin to walk you through that right now.

N3CR0 14-Mar-18 12:34 AM

as soon as i open the exe or by the launcher you guys made, it happens

ill screepcap the error

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 12:37 AM

That address corresponds with a direct3d issue.

Try configuring DGVoodoo to run in direct X passthrough mode. It'll break a few of our previous fixes, but it'll rule that out as the culprit.

N3CR0 14-Mar-18 12:38 AM

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 12:38 AM

Failing that, try updating your GPU drivers

N3CR0 14-Mar-18 12:39 AM

it worked!

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 12:42 AM

Ayy

Well...

That's not a super good thing cause as I said, it prevents other fixes but

It's a start.

Turn that back off, and tinker with the other options under DirectX. See what it does.

If anything BESIDES passthrough works, get back to me.

As for @Makuty the bionic man and @Protokuta, I don't know what to say about the launcher currently, but in the meantime as a workaround, download the patch manually here, and extract it to your LEGO Bionicle directory: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/Patch/Patch.exe From there, you'll probably at least be able to run the game normally without the launcher as per previous patches.

This link will always remain active as well since it's where the launcher itself pulls the patches from.

N3CR0 14-Mar-18 12:59 AM

oof

agh, error again

sigh

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 01:03 AM

None of the other options worked?

Try fiddling with some options under General maybe? I'd start by changing window mode to fullscreen perhaps

N3CR0 14-Mar-18 01:04 AM

didnt work

its rather late anyway, and im a little under thw weather

ill try again tomorrow, thanks for helping tho! :>

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 01:08 AM

No worries. Feel better!

Terrev 14-Mar-18 02:59 AM

Why do I keep getting phantom notifications here on mobile

I know it's discord mobile breaking, happened on another server once

But this is getting ridiculous

Doesn't disappear until I get another @ and discord realizes I've caught up

I'm just gonna stay here on my old account, not on mobile

benji 14-Mar-18 03:33 AM

I know that at least for me, Discord on mobile still shows unread notifications next to servers where the unread messages are in muted channels, even though Desktop discord hides the indicator as intended.

UTTER_BODGE 14-Mar-18 11:00 AM

nah it's not that, it's the red number counter still showing them despite the channels being entirely read - it fixes itself when you're pinged again and discord updates it

only happens on mobile

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 12:00 PM

@V A H K I T I Apparently somebody sent a DM to the Beaverhouse Facebook page about LOMN debugging? I didn't know you could DM pages. What do?

ShadowDraikana 14-Mar-18 12:23 PM

I'm making no progress in getting the doors in GLY3 to render while you swim. I'm guessing it's an osi issue with how objects get treated when the swim animations/textures get used

weird

ShadowDraikana 14-Mar-18 12:36 PM

Known issue caused by Vahkiti's edit to the textures.slb in Gali's level

Reason unknown

His editing of the textures shouldn't cause something like this

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 12:41 PM

How do I get it to let me save the modifications I make to the bionicle.ini file?

Bitl 14-Mar-18 12:41 PM

mark the file as read only

Bitl 14-Mar-18 01:02 PM

i think i might have a solution for dgvoodoo not running on lower end pcs

maybe we could replace the version we have with a older version that supports dx9

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 01:07 PM

Marking the file as read only didn't help

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 01:49 PM

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) Ignore it because they clearly didn't read the install notes.

Was I talking to you?

I'll get to you in a second.

@Makuty the bionic man I'm just gonna address these in order here. 1: No clue what's causing that. Send me the error message and I'll look into it. 2: Ditto to #1 3: I don't think Ta14 is ever even used. If it is, it could never be accessed normally. Correct me if I'm wrong @Team Litestone 4: This is known. We only just got those Turaga spawning at all, and are still working out the spawn coordinates for them 5: This is also known, but the room should not crash on entry after 0.007. Send error message. 6: This is ALSO known and has always happened (edited)

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Looks like @ShadowDraikana just fixed the Turaga issue now actually.

O_o

I have NEVER seen this area before.

Perp3tual 14-Mar-18 01:58 PM

2001 Skrall confirmed

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V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 01:59 PM

Well at any rate, I'll add this to the Github cause if I've never covered this area, that probably means it always did this for me and now it just does it for more people.

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 01:59 PM

Is that part of Makuta's lair?

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 01:59 PM

Nah, Ta-Wahi apparretly.

TA14

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 02:00 PM

Huh

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:01 PM

@ShadowDraikana I've assigned you this issue since you got Kuta working the other day: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/89

Tahu's TA14 spawns the player under the level · Issue #89 · TheL...

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:01 PM

what's the valley of the maze doing there?

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:01 PM

Kek

Wierd

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:05 PM

[1:49 PM] @V A H K I T I: Ignore it because they clearly didn't read the install notes.

I messaged him to come to Discord.

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:06 PM

Why?

So they can clog the bug report channel with more known issues?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:13 PM

Liam, clearly the install notes aren't laconic enough.

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:13 PM

Josie

They are on both the download page on BMP and here

In the channel EVERYONE is pointed to on entry.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:14 PM

translation: they aren't brief enough

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:15 PM

Levels render all-black: Most if-not all people have trouble running with the default configuration. If the game levels do not reader or render very little, try editing the “Bionicle.ini” file. Close the game if it is running, go to the install directory, and edit “Bionicle.ini”. Find the line that says: SvpRad=0 And replace it with: SvpRad=1

That's not brief enough? (edited)

Do I need to make a picture book for it?

Maybe a puppet show?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:16 PM

Instead of a wall of text why not just "Open the Bionicle.ini file in the install directory and change SvpRad to 1."

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:16 PM

it shows the latest post first

you gotta assume most people are too lazy to read from the top

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:16 PM

This game is important to people and I want people to be able to play it. I don't particularly care if it's inconvenient to repeat ourselves.

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:16 PM

It's still on the BMP download page.

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:17 PM

Liam, YOU are too lazy to read from the top.

Do I need to get the Cable post again?

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:17 PM

Well you do the SEGA style tech support then

Cause I'm fed up with it

You're PR after all

You took this job.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:17 PM

the end user doesn't wanna spend time jumping through hoops they just wanna run the game

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 02:18 PM

Whenever I try to edit SvpRad, it says that I don't have permission to save my changes

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:18 PM

Public Relations isn't Technical Support.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:18 PM

so you gotta make the process as simple and idiotproof as possible

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:18 PM

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) It is when you're just spouting the same line day after day.

Or copy pasting known information

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:19 PM

does the server spout a message when a new user joins?

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:19 PM

Ye

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:19 PM

have it tell them to check out a readme page

have the page give a link to the buglist and installation instructions, with the instruction to read that before reporting any bugs

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:21 PM

All of that is covered in the launcher

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:21 PM

installation includes getting the launcher

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:22 PM

Look man

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:22 PM

you gotta assume the end user knows jack shit about computers, let alone how to run an old, broken game

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:22 PM

If somebody's too dumb to run a simple installer with clearly laid out instructions, I'm not gonna be the one to handle the report cause I can't handle that shit.

I'm gonna take like an hour facepalming in the background before I can even muster a word that isn't condescending.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:24 PM

alright, show me the instructions

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:24 PM

Need I remind you why the old patcher had a 30 second splash screen?

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:24 PM

because it's written in vb and it's babbys first language? (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:24 PM

No this is before the launcher.

People apparently failed to realize that to install a PATCH for a game

They needed the game that they were installing the patch for.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:25 PM

then write something like DO NOT RUN THIS PATCH BEFORE YOU'VE INSTALLED THE GAME (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:25 PM

That's EXACTLY what I did

But did it stop the reports?

Nope!

So I had to make an unskippable 30 second splash screen on the installer

To FORCE the user to use their damn eyes.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:26 PM

i thought it was poor optimization

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V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:26 PM

Nope. That was intentional

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:26 PM

when an app takes more than a few seconds to load, the first assumption is that it's slow

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:26 PM

Purposeful idiotproofing

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:26 PM

or not working

people want shit to just werk™

alternatively, you could have the installer check to see if the install folder even existed

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:28 PM

I couldn't actually

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:28 PM

and shoot an error if it's not there

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:28 PM

At least not with installforge

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:29 PM

gonna need to make an installer that does, then

that, or bundling the game

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:29 PM

The point is, I'll handle known bugs if they're obscure. I'll handle new bugs with the curiosity of a hyper kitten. But when it comes to known bugs that are clearly outlined in multiple places with simple fixes if they took more than 30 seconds to look into it before screaming at us for help, I can't handle that shit.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:30 PM

again, most people don't know or think to do stuff like that, or know how to ask technical questions without going all "HELP! MY GAME ISN'T WORKING!!1"

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:33 PM

@Jonas This is the channel to either report new bugs, or have help with known bugs. If the fixes I outlined on Facebook don't work for you, somebody here should be able to help. @V A H K I T I is the manager here, but he's a whiny pissbaby when it comes to people that aren't experts on things, so don't mind him if he can be harsh on you. #litestone-general could also be a good place to ask questions, I guess. (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:38 PM

Josie, don't patronize me like that. You don't have to be an expert to read simple directions.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 02:39 PM

you also can't assume things (edited)

i've made that mistake a lot

unfortunately, it's something you gotta learn to deal with

ShadowDraikana 14-Mar-18 02:49 PM

@V A H K I T I Actually Ta14 spawns right

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:50 PM

Just only when warped to it fucks up eh?

ShadowDraikana 14-Mar-18 02:50 PM

It's warping in that's the problem

yep

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:50 PM

Does TA13 use a different str#?

ShadowDraikana 14-Mar-18 02:50 PM

Haven't checked yet

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:50 PM

IIRC warping defaults to str0

So if that's fucked, and TA13 uses say, str1 it would explain the issue (edited)

ShadowDraikana 14-Mar-18 02:51 PM

I'll look at this when I get back once I get Nuju and Vakama spawns fixed up

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:51 PM

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:55 PM

Well, I forwarded on the SvpRad and Compatibility Mode settings to @Jonas and he says the game still do a bad.

ShadowDraikana 14-Mar-18 02:57 PM

Run as an admin

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:57 PM

I'll make an issue for it. if that and updating his GPU drivers doesn't work.

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 02:57 PM

Running in Compatibility Mode forces Admin Mode, doesn't it?

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:57 PM

No

ShadowDraikana 14-Mar-18 02:57 PM

I had the issue on my laptop where both compatibility mode and the svprad thing wouldn't work unless I ran as an admin

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 02:58 PM

I should add that to the install notes if it's not there.

Yeah, it's not. THAT is my bad

Done

Calvorejas McMenú 14-Mar-18 03:07 PM

Hi, I'm experiencing a problem with my Windows XP laptop, everytime I try to launch the BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui Launcher, Windows promts an error message that says "BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui Launcher.exe is not a valid Win32 application"... So I can't run the tool... The thing is that It works on my Windows 10 computer but I prefer yo run this game un the Windows XP laptop... Any suggestions? Is It my laptop or it's just a bug? Thank you for your work on this project by the way :) (And sorry if this problem has been reported before)

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:09 PM

It could be that the launcher just doesn't run on Windows XP. It was made for .NET 4 after all. Has anyone else had success with it on XP? @Team Litestone

Ehm 14-Mar-18 03:09 PM

win7 here

(worked fine)

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:11 PM

On an unrelated note, I've now added the install notes to the top of the page.

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/the-legend-of-mata-nui/

JrMasterModelBuilder

The Legend of Mata Nui | BioMedia Project

Preserving BIONICLE media for past, current, and future BIONICLE fans.

Calvorejas McMenú 14-Mar-18 03:12 PM

Ok, but is there any chance to make It run properly on Windows XP?... Or... I don't know... Will It work on Windows XP in the future with an update or something?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 03:14 PM

Never say never, but that does sound unlikely.

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:14 PM

Not sure. The best I can offer for XP users if it is a fundamental problem with the launcher is to offer standalone patch downloads.

Which IS already doable, it's just not really advertised.

Regardless of whether or not this is an old game, I never really designed the launcher with obsolete operating systems in mind.

Omega12 14-Mar-18 03:15 PM

Yeah should be done

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:15 PM

Whether or not that was a failure on my part is up for debate really.

Omega12 14-Mar-18 03:15 PM

Since lomn can run natively on xp

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:16 PM

Well let's confirm that it's not a fluke first. (edited)

THEN I'll worry about pushing the launcherless patches.

So yeah, we need peeps to test on XP I guess

On an unrelated note, @JrMasterModelBuilder, is there any way we can allow normal users on the Github to submit issues with labels and the like? Apparently they don't have that permission, and it's a lot of cleanup for us when issues get added that need it done manually by an admin. It would also be nice to have any new issue default to the main project. (edited)

Calvorejas McMenú 14-Mar-18 03:20 PM

As you said that the Launcher works under .NET 4 I'll try to install It on my XP machine and then try again to launch the program... Hope It solves the problem

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:21 PM

Yeah that's a thing too. I'm just not sure if .NET 4 even RUNS on XP

Failing that, you can get the patch manually here: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/Patch/Patch.exe

Calvorejas McMenú 14-Mar-18 03:23 PM

The installer seems to be working by now... I don't know how the experiment will end but looks promissing...

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:27 PM

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-Mar-18 03:29 PM

@Walmart Josuke Somebody should be able to help you here or #litestone-general I'm sorry

Bitl 14-Mar-18 03:35 PM

.net 4.0 can be installed on xp

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:35 PM

Noice

Bitl 14-Mar-18 03:35 PM

that's as high as it can go sadly

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:35 PM

Isn't that the latest?

Bitl 14-Mar-18 03:36 PM

4.6.3 is the latest i think

V A H K I T I 14-Mar-18 03:36 PM

Ah

Fobo 14-Mar-18 03:51 PM

So for some odd reason my game gets a yellow tint in fullscreen mode

Ehm 14-Mar-18 03:54 PM

nostalgia mode

benji 14-Mar-18 03:58 PM

Yeah .NET 4.0 is the last release for XP

Calvorejas McMenú 14-Mar-18 03:59 PM

Ok... After some experiments I made I couldn't make the Launcher work... So I decided todo aply the Patch manually and when I try to launch the game I recieve this message: Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 004cbf7e Don't know what that is but I know there's something wrong here

Protokuta 14-Mar-18 04:36 PM

I've gotten that, too. It's supposedly audio related.

Deleted User 14-Mar-18 04:50 PM

here's an interesting read https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/calvin_hsia/2004/06/30/what-is-a-c0000005-crash/

CalvinH

What is a C0000005 crash?

In my blog about Dr. Watson I talked about product crashes. What is an example of a crash? How destructive is it? Here’s a simple example. MyFunction takes a string parameter and calculates its length MyFunction (char * StringParam) { ...

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:27 AM

IIRC c0000005 isn't the important part. It's the address after that.

Let me take a look...

004CBF77 mov edx, ?mpD3D@ScGraphicsDriver@@2PAUIDirect3D8 (edited)

My suggestion would be to try updating your graphics drivers, or setting DGVoodoo to DirectX passthrough mode. Doing so will break a couple of older fixes, but you'll at least probably have the game running. @Calvorejas McMenú, @Protokuta (edited)

On a related note, @Team Litestone, we should probably start making a list of crash addresses and what they match up with in the code.

Calvorejas McMenú 15-Mar-18 02:38 AM

@V A H K I T I ok, I,ll try that later and I tell you how It reacts

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:39 AM

For modders: Here's my list so far of known crash events just from searching "address" in this channel. More to come:

004CBF7E: ScPlatformScreen::CreateDirectXWindow 00457A84: GcSurfaceOctree::CastRay 00554BEC: GcHakaSystem::PlayHakaSequence

005681FD: GcShadow::Exit

^ seems to the the one always thrown when quitting from the menu

0043FAC6: GcCharacter::InitializeMoveList is the Kane-Ra crash

004E6CF5: ScDrawableModel::DrawX is the TA10-SHRN crash

0040F97F: GcCharacter::GcCharacter is the quitting after death crash

004C1BB4: GcCharacterAIController::AIProcess Here's an odd one. This is the one that's thrown from quitting in certain stages. Not sure if it's the same for all of them or not. Needs further testing.

Nope, they all seem to be different.

004C1BB4: GcCharacterAIController::AIProcess Quit from SCRP crash 004AF190: GcCharacterMoveInterpreter::ProcessAnimationFlags Quit from SPCV crash 0041CAD1: GcMoveListSplitTrigger::GcMoveListSplitTrigger Quit from HAK1 crash

(edited)

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:12 AM

00457A84: GcSurfaceOctree::CastRay is shared with both an OCL related crash, and quitting from MUD0

0057B84B: ScOSIVirtualMachine::BCLGetThisMemberFunction is the crash thrown when backtracking in Kopaka's level

I think that covers just about everything currently known.

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:20 AM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/93

List of Known Crash Addresses · Issue #93 · TheLegendOfMataNui/g...

004CBF7E: ScPlatformScreen::CreateDirectXWindow Generic startup crash 004E6CF5: ScDrawableModel::DrawX TA10-SHRN crash 005681FD: GcShadow::Exit Generic quit from menu crash 0043FAC6: GcC...

Full list with descriptions^

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 09:48 AM

@V A H K I T I Well this is odd. Quitting from the Front End works normally without a crash.

also I somehow quit from the debug menu several days agomwithout a crash

still can't reproduce what I did

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 10:33 AM

Ok, go into your Lego Bionicle folder and find the Bionicle.ini file

make sure Svprad = 1 if it isn't already

Make sure to run the game in compatibility mode unde Windows XP SP2 or 3. Then run as an administrator

Oh that problem.

You need to change the permissions of the Lego Bionicle folder to full control

That should allow you to save it

I had this exact same problem on my laptop, btw

Svpother should be set to 2 if you have rendering issues in Kopaka's or Makuta's level

Any other issues just post here. Me or another member of the LOMN team will try to help you to the best of our abilities (edited)

Uh, why did you delete that?

Now it looks like I was talking to myself.

Walmart Josuke 15-Mar-18 10:56 AM

Because I’m only here for about for my problem

I know you will ask that question

But sorry anyway

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 10:56 AM

It's ok

And I wasn't going to ask you that

Ah

That looks fine to me

Oh and if you're using the patch you can adjust the screen resolution with the ini

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 01:59 PM

Are you using the patched version?

If so then play around with the settings in DGVoodoo

Also the patched exe file has multiple fixes to the graphics, which should make it look a lot better

Under Full Screen Output, you should be able to adjust the resolution

What did you set it for?

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:06 PM

Why did you tell him to mess with DGVoodoo? That was unnecessary.

Literally all you have to do is hit alt+enter

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:06 PM

Because I've always had to do it?

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:07 PM

Don't you run in passthrough mode?

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:07 PM

On my laptop yes

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:07 PM

That disables literally everything DGVoodoo fixes. xP

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:08 PM

I have to adjust it on my desktop, which seems to work with DGVoodoo fine

And since I've apparently been giving incorrect information I think I'll quietly step aside

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:09 PM

Well anyways, all you have to do to change the resolution is change the value under DirectX in DGVoodoo, then match it n the Bionicle.ini

The default for instance on the patch is 1280x720

If you set it back to windowed in DGVoodoo, you can toggle fullscreen in game with alt+enter

@Walmart Josuke

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:16 PM

Oh great

That's same issue I had with DGVoodoo

Ye

Walmart Josuke 15-Mar-18 02:17 PM

So what’s now

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:18 PM

Check the box Disable and Passthru to DirextX

in the DirectX tab

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:18 PM

Yeah, just remember on passthrough mode, some fixes won't work.

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:19 PM

Yep

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:19 PM

However, you should still be able to adjust the resolution to your liking in the Bionicle.ini

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:45 PM

Whenua's presence in the takara was just fixed @Makuty the bionic man

So cross that off the list

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:45 PM

The other two are marginally more difficult however and probably won't be fixed for a while

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:47 PM

actually three

Btw Gali has an unused Mtup area. Any idea if this is the area seen in the Onua meets Gali scene @V A H K I T I ?

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:49 PM

Idk how I'd know if it was seeing as that scene can only be loaded in other maps.

We don't know yet what exactly triggers cutscenes

So we have no way to force one to play

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:52 PM

What I was getting at is Gali's Mtup might be only used for that cutscene.

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:53 PM

And that's all fine and dandy, IF we can trigger the cutscene in the first place.

And @Makuty the bionic man it is far from being that simple.

If it were, we'd have done it already

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:54 PM

@V A H K I T I Well we'd have to get that area to load to begin with and figure out how t transition the levels. Which would be a hell of a lot easier if we can get our hands on the beta

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:56 PM

?

@ShadowDraikana Well loading the area normally is easy.

Just point a door to it

That's how I made Green Hill work.

The only thing trigger.slb looks for is the 4 letter folder name of a level.

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:58 PM

Well yeah, but we don't know if there's some kind of other transition screen, like a completion recap or whatever.

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:58 PM

Even if it's entirely new, it'll load it all the same

Green Hill for instance is in a new folder called GRHZ

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:59 PM

Actually I can add a trigger to the Mud Man's lair if you want

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 02:59 PM

Also

If that level is made for the cutscene, then it should be programmed to play automatically

On entry

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 02:59 PM

Yep

Only other issue is getting the game to switch from Onua to Gali

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:00 PM

Well I mean

If you want to test without that headache, just temporarily point the Gali BECH door to it

Again, that's what I did for Green Hill. xP

Cause otherwise we need to figure out how to make NEW doors

AND point them to other levels

Which is a bigger problem

Since trigger.slb only seeks out the 4 letter folder name WITHIN a single level directory

I don't know if there's even code to handle seeking in OTHER levels

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 03:03 PM

Which is where my theory is that the leve ends with some kind of screen and then unloads the level entirely before loading Gali's level. Once we get into the osi we'll find out for sure if we can do something like this

But again this would be easier if we could get the beta

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:07 PM

Well I just tried loading mtup from bech and it crashed. Needs more research I guess

I feel you may be on to something about this area

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 03:10 PM

It should be missing an ocl

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:10 PM

Of note is that it has no doors

And it's not

Deleted User 15-Mar-18 03:10 PM

ga-wahi looks so dull

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 03:11 PM

Well that makes sense especially if there isn't a spawn point or even a trigger

Basically the idea here would be to do what the mosh cinematics do and drop Gali into the Bech after the mtup cutscene

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:13 PM

Gali also has an unused MAZE level with no OCL

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 03:14 PM

Gly4, Gl4s, and Gizr are unused too

all shutdown when entering, and have spawn issues @V A H K I T I

no idea why as of right now

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:15 PM

Huh

Okay so MAZE is a copy of GLY2

Deleted User 15-Mar-18 03:15 PM

@Makuty the bionic man #beaverhouse-general

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:15 PM

Likewise, GLY4 is a copy of GLY3

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-18 03:16 PM

Wait, isn't there an exit that has no trigger in Gly1?

like a grate at the bottom of the start area leads to what is supposed to be a door I think

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 03:18 PM

Idk

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 05:35 PM

Please read the bug list on the Github before reporting stuff. This has been said in multiple different places in easy to see and read headlines

Deleted User 15-Mar-18 05:47 PM

of course github is safe

here's a list of other sites that are safe (i.e. you won't get a virus): reddit 4chan 8chan bzpower imgur youtube deviantart artstation discord amazon

adobe biomediaproject

benji 15-Mar-18 05:52 PM

What do you mean, GitHub is safe? Any projects can upload arbitrary executables, they don't even need to store the source in the repo. There isn't an automated virus-check, either (AFAIK)

On GitHub, you can trust that the files on the site were posted by people from that project. Whether you trust the project is entirely up to you.

well yeah, YouTube is an awful place to download programs from. Nobody who actually has technical skill releases builds on YouTube videos, only people with edited 'tutorials' on how to use their virus

Deleted User 15-Mar-18 05:55 PM

I got a horible virus from youtube once and twice from deviantart

from the site itself, or from links leading offsite?

yeah, i don't see how youtube could've cause that

do you remember how it happened?

define "blew up"

please elaborate

if you can

hmm

i've got doubts youtube itself was the cause, without more info i can't verify if that was the culprit

or just other stuff you mistakingly installed (edited)

sounds more like something was running that piggybacked on top of youtube

it ain't normal for youtube to do stuff like that

do you have an ad blocker?

what browser do you use?

yeah

there's a reason i keep mentioning ublock origin

it's available for both

no, it's a browser addon

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm?hl=en https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

uBlock Origin

Finally, an efficient blocker. Easy on CPU and memory.

it's all taken care of in the browser

maybe a couple megabytes at most

it does its job and nothing more

computers don't understand context

technically it could - any app has that potential, but the browser has no way of knowing because it's incapable of that sorta thing

a computer does exactly as it's told

that's all it does

it follows instructions (edited)

no, this addon just blocks ads

nothing more

it outta make your life a bit easier

ads are often one of the biggest causes of malware

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 06:12 PM

Deleted User 15-Mar-18 06:13 PM

well, in regards to deviantart

V A H K I T I 15-Mar-18 06:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpMXs58L5x4

Jontron Clips

Jontron - Waht daaa fhuckk [Japanese Shoot 'Em Ups]

Ripped from "Japanese Shoot 'Em Ups - JonTron" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rIxWqcBk4M DISCLAIMER: I am not Jon, but I love Jon and I do not intend to ...

Deleted User 15-Mar-18 06:13 PM

think of it like going ad-free for free

just leave it running

click it and turn it on

that's it

it just werks™

y'see?

just check #litestone-announcements

or read through the chats when you have time

Teylgate 16-Mar-18 02:30 PM

I get this everytime i star lomn on the latest patch. help pls?

ShadowDraikana 16-Mar-18 02:42 PM

Go into the Lego Bionicle folder and find DGVoodoo in there

Click on it, go to the directx tab, and make sure Disable and passthru to DirectX is checked.

then see if it still crashes

Gatanui 17-Mar-18 08:34 AM

So swimming does not really work well with Gali in the latest patch, the screen will often just be black.

Is this something you know about?

V A H K I T I 17-Mar-18 09:16 AM

Unfortunately, yes.

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/84

Entering water as Gali causes a black screen followed by death aft...

Once respawned, this issue also causes doors to stop functioning, and the hitboxes of various objects to disappear. This appears to be directly related to the water animation fix introduced in patc...

A partial fix/workaround for this is to simply quit to the menu and reload Gali's level, or go through a door without having previously entered water.

Gatanui 17-Mar-18 09:17 AM

Alright then.

V A H K I T I 17-Mar-18 09:17 AM

Otherwise, I have no idea what could cause it.

It seems to be a direct result of reanimating the water, which might be exactly WHY it used a dummy/copy of Pohatu's file to begin with.

I imagine Saffire did it on purpose to make the game seem slightly more playable to whomever the snapshot was sent at LEGO.

Gatanui 17-Mar-18 09:19 AM

Sounds plausible.

V A H K I T I 17-Mar-18 09:21 AM

Otherwise, Gali's level is just as unplayable as it always was with the third horn shutdown.

ShadowDraikana 17-Mar-18 10:41 AM

@V A H K I T I Did you or @JrMasterModelBuilder try running IDA on that shutdown yet?

V A H K I T I 17-Mar-18 10:42 AM

Nope

ShadowDraikana 17-Mar-18 11:02 AM

Well that and the air bubbles need to be debugged at some point

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Mar-18 11:04 AM

+

ShadowDraikana 17-Mar-18 11:22 AM

I'm making literally no headway on the boards at all. I don't even know why or how the boards get spawned in Tahu's level, and what the difference is in areas that are missing the surf models but still have working lava surfing. I'm going to set this one aside until the osi compiler is finished, because I doubt this will be fixable until then

I do have one last thing to try but I doubt it will amount to anything

@The Cap'm (Reese) Uh, I think you ended up with a duplicate account

was going to ask you something and noticed two users pop up

@V A H K I T I So Makuty and robot apparently have duplicate accounts now

I had this same problem in my own server recently

guy ended up with like 5 accounts for no apparent reason

Same thing for @The Cap'm (Reese)

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Mar-18 11:35 AM

Hmm. Odd.

I think that the first one if from when I first tried joining the server. It didn't log me in to my Discord and just gave me that to use.

ShadowDraikana 17-Mar-18 11:43 AM

I don't think there's anything that can be done other than removing those accounts from the server

If you guys are in other servers, check there to see if this occurred there as well

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Mar-18 11:44 AM

Sorry for any trouble.

ShadowDraikana 17-Mar-18 11:51 AM

I wouldn't worry about it since it seems to happen a lot

Deleted User 17-Mar-18 01:25 PM

@Makuty the Bionic Man yeah I deleted cookies because my pc was getting slow cookies hardly take up any space you're better off clearing ram (edited)

Gatanui 17-Mar-18 04:28 PM

you're better off clearing ram

Only if it's all used up, of course.

Deleted User 17-Mar-18 05:14 PM

@Makuty the Bionic Man press win+x and open the task manager

alternatively, it's likely you just have a slow connection

in which case it doesn't matter how fast your pc is, when it's bottlenecked by low bandwidth (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 02:08 PM

I can't update the launcher

When I click yes I get a Norton alarm

Deleted User 20-Mar-18 02:10 PM

step 1: delete norton

nobody needs norton

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 02:11 PM

I don't even HAVE norton

It's in the launcher and in the launcher only

Deleted User 20-Mar-18 02:12 PM

w...what...

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 02:12 PM

wtf

i have it?

i never installed it?

Do you guys have a virus which installs Norton?

Deleted User 20-Mar-18 02:13 PM

y'know pc manufacturers bundles stuff like norton to make some extra cash on the side, right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 02:15 PM

I don't even

..........

I downloaded NRnR

didn't work

wtf is this

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 02:30 PM

I WIN!!

F*** YOU NORTON! YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE ANYMORE!

Deleted User 20-Mar-18 02:41 PM

best hope it didn't just burrow a sleeper app in there to reinstall it later :^)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 02:42 PM

=v)

New bug: Game softlocks after clicking "Sound Volume"

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:43 PM

Another new bug: No inputs are tracked globally (Nohboard, Livesplit don't pick them up)

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:44 PM

..?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:45 PM

Do you have any software that tracks what you pressed on your keyboard?

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:45 PM

No?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:45 PM

https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/nohboard.44/

Free - NohBoard

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:45 PM

That's technically a virus by most standards. xD

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:46 PM

Download it, launch LoMN and press something in game

It doesn't pick up

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:46 PM

Bt I can see why speedrunners may find keyloggers useful

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:46 PM

Or livesplit

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:46 PM

As for this, I wouldn't exactly call it a bug

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:46 PM

Even with global hotkeys enabled, I can't split from in-game

I lost 5 seconds because of that

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:46 PM

YOu're trying to use an external program to track inputs in a 17 year old alpha. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:46 PM

I have to alt-tab to split

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:47 PM

That's not a bug with the game, that's just a generic incompatibility between otherwise unrelated software.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:47 PM

OK

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:48 PM

Ditto for OBS not picking up the game at all unless you use window capture. It's like saying that Internet Explorer 6 has a bug in it that won't let my 2018 webpage with HTML5 and WEBMs load.

(edited)

Ya can't put a square peg into a circular hole.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:49 PM

But it worked before patch 0.007

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:49 PM

(And then blame the hole for the issue) (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:49 PM

I can give you video proof

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:49 PM

Nothing directly video related changed between 0.007 and 0.006 as far as I remember.

Let me double check the notes

See, if you'd said that first, you could have stopped me from going on that monologue.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:50 PM

yeah... I was wondering why game capture no longer recognizes the game lol

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:50 PM

IIRC game capture never did

At least not for me

I always had to use Window Capture

BUT

Up until the Win10 patch, I also had to use a PVR hooked up to a completely different PC

So maybe it worked before that

IDK

(Pre-0.003)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:54 PM

Well I have a Win10 PC and I was able to get Game Capture working with an old patch so... yeah

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:54 PM

v0.007: • Reworked patching system once again. Game now runs from an automated launcher (Vahkiti, benji, snowcone) • Updated various Toa animations with those from the onua.blk included with Deep Brick's old videos (Vahkiti, shadowknight) • Fixed various objects from rendering incorrectly (shadowknight, Vahkiti) • Fixed various areas that previously crashed due to lack of collision data (Vahkiti, shadowknight, benji) • Fixed Onua's SCRP crashing outright on Windows 10 machines (Vahkiti, Benji) • Fixed various text issues (Omega12, shadowknight, Hexadecimal Mantis) • Fixed Vakama and Nuju not rendering in their huts (Omega12) • Fixed typo in Kopaka's BRD3 exit trigger that caused a crash (Vahkiti) • Fixed all water in Ga-Wahi lacking animations (Vahkiti) • Fixed Ga-Koro Takara softlock (Omega12) • Fixed Nui Rama lacking animations (Vahkiti) • Fixed Ice Bats lacking animations (For real this time!) (Vahkiti) • Replaced missing sign in Onua's PTV2 (2tie) • Replaced missing trees in Onua's PTV2 (2tie, shadowknight) • Pointed Tahu's door in Makuta to the unused Kuta level and fixed the latter's spawn point (Vahkiti, shadowknight) • Updated AutoHotkey script to close when the game is no longer running (Vahkiti)

Nothing directly video or control related changed in 0.007. You positive it's nothing you've changed on your end? (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 03:55 PM

No, because I didn't update Livesplit since then and I am using the same splits and settings as when it worked, same with NohBoard

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 03:56 PM

Try running the game directly then? If it's trying to hook the launcher rather than the game itself, that would explain your issue.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Mar-18 04:00 PM

works

thanks¨

V A H K I T I 20-Mar-18 04:00 PM

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:37 PM

So this is the channel where I can send conplaints...I mean bug reports?

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:40 PM

Hold it.

Read the reported bug list in the github page first

and if possible ask here before adding something to the git issues

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:42 PM

I think this is more on my side than a known bug

But alright (edited)

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:43 PM

what't the problem?

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:44 PM

Can I send a photo?

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:45 PM

sure

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:45 PM

Okay

So when I try to open the game, I see this, and when I click okay I get "bionicle.exe stoped working" and the game closes, does it maybe have something to do with the fact I have a 32 bit system?

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:48 PM

Are you using the patch?

because that's the DGVoodoo crash

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:49 PM

I did got a window saying there's a new patch and got it

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:49 PM

Ok find the Bionicle exe folder and look for DGVoodoo in there

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:50 PM

I see a "configure DGVoodoo" button in the launcher

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:50 PM

Hit that

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:50 PM

Okay

Oh geez...this looks complicated for me

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:51 PM

the in the directx tab, make sure Disable and passthru to DX is checked

then try running the game

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:52 PM

Alright

same error

Wait...

I clicked "apply" and kept that configure window open, and now I see the main menu..

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:56 PM

This is a problem literally every other person seemed to have with DGVoodoo. You should be all set

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 03:56 PM

So...what do I click now? Load level or level 1?

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 03:59 PM

Level 1

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 04:00 PM

Uhm...I actually clicked front end, and the landscape is all white....

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 04:04 PM

Yeah that's because the game doesn't load in shaders properly unless you load Onua's level first

New game from front end actually disables the cutscenes in game too

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 04:05 PM

Alright..it loaded

but I have weird shadows on screen..

What's up with the voices...?

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 04:09 PM

the shadows...

I have that problem

the voices are normal

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 04:11 PM

So they have to sound like some bug?

I barely understand a word, luckily there are subtitles

JrMasterModelBuilder 23-Mar-18 04:21 PM

I think they are supposed to sound robotic.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 04:21 PM

Makes sence, but this crazy..

JrMasterModelBuilder 23-Mar-18 04:23 PM

It's not exactly canon, considering they aren't robots, but that's what LEGO was doing for voices around that time to avoid having to localize them. Take LEGO Racers 2 for example.

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-18 04:24 PM

Ima catch in the plumbing

---Sparky

that's what he sounds like, lol

JrMasterModelBuilder 23-Mar-18 04:24 PM

I always heard "I'm gonna catch you, proper plumbing" (edited)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 04:25 PM

These sound robotic and nkt understandable

JrMasterModelBuilder 23-Mar-18 04:25 PM

They actually do sound a little like what the English subtitles say they are saying.

Like Chopper in Star Wars Rebels.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-18 04:25 PM

A little

The Shadow Emperor 23-Mar-18 04:34 PM

according to Greg the Matoran were meant to speak programming language so LoMN is actually one of the more accurate depictions

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Mar-18 06:20 PM

So, is it just me, or is Pohatu's jumping attack animation way too slow? I've never been able to execute a jump attack as him, and everyone else's is rather quick. (edited)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-18 12:16 PM

So uhm..there's this patch in the nui jaga cave, and when I try to dig through it, the entire game crashes....is this a common glitch?

ShadowDraikana 24-Mar-18 12:22 PM

This has been known since day 1. Boi is it a toughie to fix apparently (edited)

The disk is in there, btw

can only reach it using the debug camera currently until we get this one solved

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-18 12:23 PM

Okay

Don't knew it, sorry

ShadowDraikana 24-Mar-18 12:29 PM

Don't worry about it. I should have worded it better

edit: fixed

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Mar-18 01:57 PM

New bug: Changing characters in kuta spawns them close to the floor of the map

ShadowDraikana 25-Mar-18 02:25 PM

that's expected

because xhanging characters usually spawns you out of the map

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Mar-18 02:29 PM

I found a workaround

change character and quickly teleport them to str0

=v)

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Mar-18 02:11 PM

So I've noticed from watching the streams that there's supposed to be a black screen transition upon changina areas. I don't get that. Each time I enter/exit an area, I physically see the map loading in.

I don't see a GitHub post on this, so is there a commonly known fix that I just don't have?

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 31-Mar-18 11:43 AM

So, I opened the game and at first I was just a mask but then I kept dying and had no lifes or energy whatsoever, it's too early for this being an april fools day prank

ShadowDraikana 31-Mar-18 01:36 PM

Oh good god that bug

been a while since I've seen it

@𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 Yeah that's a known issue in Gali's level. Word of advice is to not load a save game in her level because walking into water causes a crash too

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 31-Mar-18 01:38 PM

Oh

ShadowDraikana 31-Mar-18 01:43 PM

Not to mention water seems to have a bug of its own...

I would say Gali's level is worse than Kopaka's in some cases

RДƑ૯ ய૯ҬᏃ૯Լ 🐰 04-Apr-18 08:01 PM

Hello, I'm having a problem with the launcher for the game

whenever I try to run it, right after it says "BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui stopped working"

I'd just like to know if there's a fix for this? I am using a crappy Windows Vista 32-bit lap-top but everything else has been downloaded just fine, it seems.

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:34 PM

I'll look into the two outstanding launcher issues tomorrow. I don't really look forward to it since ya know.. my code, my responsibility, but I digress.

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:35 PM

Wait what are they?

oh wait nvm

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:36 PM

One crash, one constant request to download the main game.

Neither I've seen reported before.

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:37 PM

the problem with the launcher above is easy

I don't think VS supports Windows Vista

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:38 PM

I mean, it should still work. It's not DEPENDANT on Visual Studio. It's dependent on .NET 4

However one would imagine rather than crashing, it would just give the usual "This app can't run on your PC" message.

Hexadecimal Mantis 04-Apr-18 11:39 PM

Wait is the launcher crashing or the game?

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:39 PM

That is true

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:39 PM

I'm assuming the launcher otherwise he'd have reported it as "lego bionicle has stopped working"

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:39 PM

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:40 PM

Anyways yeah, I'll figure that shit out tomorrow. Maybe run it through IDA to narrow it down.

Hell, I could even make a Vista VM if I have to.

I already have an XP one from the early days of base game testing.

Might have to boot up good 'ol Binkle Tiddy again.

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:41 PM

It could be .net framework 4 that is not working but who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hexadecimal Mantis 04-Apr-18 11:42 PM

I would try to fully rule out user error first.

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:42 PM

Well yeah.

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:43 PM

I am asking the visual studio community rn

Hexadecimal Mantis 04-Apr-18 11:43 PM

Are there anymore details about the issue aside from the post above?

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:44 PM

Not that I'm aware of.

The other one detailed in #litestone-general is even more perplexing

It's as if on his PC specifically, the launcher refuses to recognize the base game is installed EXCEPT THAT ONE TIME

Hexadecimal Mantis 04-Apr-18 11:45 PM

I mean this is probably a typo, but he does have an unneeded space "Program Files x 86 > LEGO Media > LEGO Bionicle > Launcher"

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:45 PM

Ye, typo probably

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:46 PM

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/get-started/system-requirements

.NET Framework system requirements

Find out what are the hardware, operating system and software requirements to install .NET Framework 4.5 and later versions.

it works on Vista SP2

It could just be his computer can't handle the meemz

Hexadecimal Mantis 04-Apr-18 11:48 PM

maybe

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:48 PM

Kek

Revenge of the dancy boi.

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:48 PM

So how does it detect where the game is installed? (edited)

V A H K I T I 04-Apr-18 11:50 PM

It just searches for the Lego Bionicle.exe in the previous folder

If it's not there, it prompts you to download

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:50 PM

k

@RДƑ૯ ய૯ҬᏃ૯Լ 🐰 could I have your full computer specs please.

I don't even know wth is going on with the other guy

Hexadecimal Mantis 04-Apr-18 11:58 PM

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Clearly the best OS ever created

Snowcone 04-Apr-18 11:59 PM

kek

RДƑ૯ ய૯ҬᏃ૯Լ 🐰 05-Apr-18 01:20 PM

I've been stuck with this toaster for like 10 years

@Snowcone Windows VistaTM Ultimate

and

Snowcone 05-Apr-18 03:50 PM

@RДƑ૯ ய૯ҬᏃ૯Լ 🐰 can you open this file and tell me what happens?

Attachment: LoMNTest.exe (12.5 KB)

RДƑ૯ ய૯ҬᏃ૯Լ 🐰 05-Apr-18 03:58 PM

it just opened that

@Snowcone

sorry if I keep tagging you

Snowcone 05-Apr-18 04:02 PM

huh weird so you can run stuff

and don't worry about tagging me

@V A H K I T I so he has all the requirements to run the launcher

rylog9 10-Apr-18 01:17 AM

whats the latest update patch?

because I load up and it looks like this

Win7 64 bit

Omega12 11-Apr-18 03:29 PM

You using voodoo?

Reckreational 16-Apr-18 06:00 PM

I just downloaded lomn and when i start it up, no cutscenes play

xxxswagbuckxxx 16-Apr-18 06:01 PM

I am no techie, but that is bad if you are not a fan of this:

The Shadow Emperor 16-Apr-18 06:02 PM

the startup cutscenes were removed due to bugs

or disabled, rather

Reckreational 16-Apr-18 06:02 PM

So are any cutscenes in?

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-18 06:02 PM

THis is normal. THe cutscenes are currently broken following the upres patch and have been temporarily removed

In engine cutscenes still work however, yes

Reckreational 16-Apr-18 06:02 PM

Ah ok thanks

xxxswagbuckxxx 16-Apr-18 06:02 PM

Okay, will the cutscenes be back in as soon as this problem is fixed?

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-18 06:03 PM

Indeed

xxxswagbuckxxx 16-Apr-18 06:03 PM

Great!

I love it when they dance. It makes me so happy.

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-18 06:04 PM

4

5

Reckreational 16-Apr-18 07:00 PM

Ok so i’ve played through a bit, game crashed, and when i restart everything’s black. When i try to do the bionicle.ini fix it says i dont have permission to

Deleted User 16-Apr-18 07:14 PM

you need to run notepad as administrator

Reckreational 16-Apr-18 07:23 PM

I am running as administrator

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 16-Apr-18 07:26 PM

Compatibility Mode?

Reckreational 16-Apr-18 07:29 PM

Im running the .exe file in compatibility mode

Reckreational 16-Apr-18 08:03 PM

Now when i try to load game after a crash i get an “Unhandled Exception” error

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 16-Apr-18 08:17 PM

Patches installed?

Reckreational 16-Apr-18 08:20 PM

Yea

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 16-Apr-18 10:19 PM

@Team Litestone idk how to gaem

Deleted User 16-Apr-18 10:23 PM

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) get a ps3

it has no games

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 16-Apr-18 10:29 PM

No, we have a user here with an unhandled exception

also lol

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 17-Apr-18 10:46 AM

@Reckreational @Reckreational You ever get it working? Sorry I couldn't be more helpful; I'm not part of the deev team here.

Omega12 17-Apr-18 11:48 AM

@Reckreational i recommend uninstalling the game, deleting the Lego media folder in programs x86 and reinstalling (edited)

Sounds like something got corrupted

Reckreational 17-Apr-18 11:49 AM

Yea i never got it properly working. I’ll try that when i get home

TheTokytot 18-Apr-18 12:33 PM

So, my computer flopped and I just now got the game re-downloaded. I'm using Windows 10 and everything in the game is gray. How can I fix this?

Doctor U 18-Apr-18 01:12 PM

@TheTokytot patches downloaded?

TheTokytot 18-Apr-18 01:28 PM

Yes.

Wait, I loaded up the game again and it fixed itself. Nevermind.

I know what caused it. I Alt-Tabbed out of and back into the game and that caused it.

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-Apr-18 09:57 PM

https://twitter.com/PepperMcain/status/987501937976209408

Pepper McCain (@PepperMcain)

@LOMN_Bot Will the game work for Mac computers in the future?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-Apr-18 10:05 PM

Pinned a message.

V A H K I T I 20-Apr-18 11:20 PM

It's unlikely. The best you can hope for is eventual virtual machine support.

MAYBE WineSkin

Though I haven't tested with that personally to see if it's any better.

Deleted User 21-Apr-18 10:54 AM

bootcamp might work

at least until apple starts making custom chips in a few years

which might break intel compatibility

SharpieSkunk 21-Apr-18 12:01 PM

Does anyone here have functioning music beyond Gali Ambience on the start screen/frontend?

ShadowDraikana 21-Apr-18 12:01 PM

No, there is music only in select areas

SharpieSkunk 21-Apr-18 12:02 PM

Ah okay, at least we have it.

oh okay so the cutscenes decided to play for me this time. My only guess as to why they didn't before is because I skipped the frontend this time

ShadowDraikana 21-Apr-18 12:08 PM

Yeah frontend breaks all in-game cutscenes

and also causes crashes in conversations

SharpieSkunk 21-Apr-18 12:08 PM

I'm an idiot who didn't see the announcement

but at least I'm asking "is this a bug or something we know"

ShadowDraikana 21-Apr-18 12:10 PM

Don't worry about it.

Galgo 21-Apr-18 02:05 PM

does anyone know how I can get dgVoodoo to accept the settings I'm entering? It keeps going back to the original mode

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 21-Apr-18 02:10 PM

Keep that settings window open and try again @Galgo

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-18 02:11 PM

THat's not how it works.

Run the configuration tool as admin

Or from the launcher, which should also do it

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 21-Apr-18 02:15 PM

I've had the same problem, and left the window open and the game worked

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-18 02:16 PM

Well that's. not how it's supposed to work

kaltathenoblemind 06-May-18 07:03 AM

hey i recently updated my copy of LOMN with the autolauncher and the like but now it doesnt open in 3dripperDX. the game itself works fine as is but i mainly downloaded it for ripping models so i cant do that anymore. what's worse is that reinstalling the original files still do nothing.

2Tie 06-May-18 10:00 AM

afaik the models didn't get changed in any way by the patches

except for maybe onua's?

and that was a swap to the older model (edited)

kaltathenoblemind 06-May-18 07:50 PM

oh it's not that i get no models it's that the program itself either doesnt do the process to make it possible or it reads the app like an incmpatable app. it worked with Glatorian Arena and i think other games but it doesnt work with LOMN anymore

has to do with TLOMN itself instead of the ripper. like something changed to make it not work anymore. even when i deleted everything from both apps.

2Tie 07-May-18 01:56 PM

and i'm saying i don't think tlomn was changed :P

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 01:57 PM

well something changed in my computer then. 3DRipper worked fine until i upgraded and now it seems to hate any app named Lego Bionicle.EXE.

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 01:57 PM

Okay, I'm just gonna shut ya both down right now. One: The direct ripped models can use textures. You just need to put them in the same directory as the OBJ or edit the MTL. It's not hard. Two: If you still insist on using the god awful 3DRipperDX for this, maybe don't try to hook it to the launcher that has no connection to the game itself.

(edited)

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 01:59 PM

not knocking the launcher just reporting what i am experiencing.

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 01:59 PM

Right, but your experiencing it because you're doing it wrong.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-May-18 01:59 PM

try running the game directly

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 01:59 PM

I figured it would be obvious that the launcher has no connection to the game when it actively closes on launching said game.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:00 PM

i have. and it still comes back "cannot create process"

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:00 PM

And please.. don't use 3D Ripper. For the love of god, that program is an unstable mess. Just do yourself a favour and edit the MTLs.

You can change the paths en-masse with Notepad++ if you have to

Or just copy the OBJ into the texture folder

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:01 PM

thats what i used to do until it got tedious and confusing, specifically with the enviroments.

i'll try that.

what converter app do you recomend? i used i3DConverter and it always had a weird blue default texture

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:03 PM

This was complicated?

Why are you trying to convert stuff also?

I literally did this in 30 seconds.

Literally all you have to do is copy the texture folder. Run the Main.x through LOMNTool. Copy and paste the resulting OBJ and MTL INTO the textures folder, and that's it.

You're done

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:05 PM

i use maya which doesnt take DirectX. and yes it is. there's like 3 differnt sand texture for the beach alone, one wet one dry and one transition between the two. same is with the cliffs as they go from sandy beach to regular brown ground

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:05 PM

...

You're not even using LOMNTool are you?

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:06 PM

no. is this a new thing withthe launcher?

i apologize if i am being difficult. i was trying to do these mods when the game came out in feburary. way before the launcher

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:07 PM

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:07 PM

and i was using the workflow that was best

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:07 PM

THis a tool that CAME OUT in February, so you couldn't have been paying much attention my dude.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:08 PM

that wasnt in the original biomedia project page last i saw.

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:09 PM

No. It's in the LOMN announcements channel here which every user that logs onto the server is immediately directed to observe.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:09 PM

ah. that is my fault then. i will try the LOMN toll now

greatly apologize for wasting time like this

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:09 PM

Aight. It's really straightforward, so that's why everyone was wondering why you were trying to finagle with the X fles and 3d ripper

xP

I've had to deal with 3D Ripper before and my god it is a pain, so I would advise you not to use it when doing so can be avoided.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:10 PM

to be honest i actually just signed up for discord to ask about my issue here.

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:10 PM

I see.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:11 PM

yeah. and damn shame. it seemed like a good tool. supposeldy the orignal maker abadoned it when he was bored.

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:11 PM

The main issue with it is how it skews models, and the necessary toolsrequired to offset that issue.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:11 PM

and for other non LOMN games what 3d ripper apps do you reccomend?

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:11 PM

Even then, realigining the models is a pain in itself.

IIRC the only program that can load 3DRipper models correctly is Max 2011 or below, since only the 3DR import max script has the programmed offsets

And said script is broken on 2012+ (edited)

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:12 PM

hah true, though i only ever tried using it to get the original texture placment data. planned on using the original .X files as the base meshes

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:13 PM

Well you'll have no need to do anything more than drag and drop with TLOMNTool.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:13 PM

i got 3ds max 2009 and the assosiated plugin

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:13 PM

As far as other apps, I can't really recommend anything for full stages.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:13 PM

true!

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:13 PM

For individual models, Ninjaripper is decent

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:14 PM

ah that's for newer games right?

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:14 PM

Not necessarily

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:15 PM

i also remeber a 3dvia that suppsoedly rips 3d graphics from the GPU itself.

will try ninjaripper and lomn tool

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:16 PM

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:18 PM

oh speaking of game ripping is it possible to get 3d data from the 2002 mata nui explorer game and stope the morbuzak game?

i think both have proper 3d envirments but 3dripper didnt work on either and i found no data folders.

really need the low rez island from mata nui explorer if i want accurate hight for the terrain. too much data is lost from the 8bit hightmape on faberfiles

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:22 PM

Not sure about that, but I might have a model that's decently accoruate for that. HOld on

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:22 PM

ooh sweet

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:24 PM

Whelp. Nvm I guess. I seem to recall this model looking a lot better than it does.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:25 PM

is this from an offical source like another game or was it fanmade?

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 02:25 PM

Fanmade

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 02:26 PM

oh. was hoping for offical stuff since i already have my own high detail from the faberfiles hight map and extra hight data from the colored mata nui maps.

needed the low rez for physical dimensions alone since the 8bit map wont have the proper hight anymore

like i would import the converted hightmap and then properly scale it to the low rez from mata nui explorer.

was using the island profile from one of the faberfiles in the meantime

oh one extra tangent, is there a way to map the different levels/locations to one another? like i dunno see where Po-Koro is in relation to Po-Kini.

wanna use the level's own geometry as more terrain data

benji 07-May-18 03:07 PM

Also speak up if you have any issues running LOMNTool. I made it, and it's not 100% perfect.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:14 PM

will do! havent touched it yet as i am reinstalling the game for the 3rd time today XD

hopefully it works for me.

benji 07-May-18 03:15 PM

Hopefully. (But LOMNTool won't care whether the game runs) (edited)

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:16 PM

oh the game runs perfect it was just 3dripper hated it all of a sudenXD then again i never downloaded it to actually play just pillage assets

it seems like the core aesthetics of the first 3 years came form that game. saw the same carving textures on the kini shrines used on the more impressive Kini nui showcased in the promo animations

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:31 PM

okey i followed the instructions of dragging and dropping the .x files onto the lomntool app and all i got was a terminal box and not the blue GUI the screencaps show.

have i done soemthign wrong?

benji 07-May-18 03:32 PM

no, there is no blue GUI.

You should have either an .obj+.mtl file or .dae file.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:33 PM

oh. what app was Vahkiti using then?

benji 07-May-18 03:34 PM

Oh he was showing off the converted models in the Windows 3d model viewer

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:34 PM

and the converted tool shows up where again?

benji 07-May-18 03:34 PM

In the same folder as the model.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:34 PM

ah! didnt know windows had that XD

and i dont see any model in the original folder. just the original .x file

benji 07-May-18 03:35 PM

However, if your models are in a folder only admins can write to, LOMNTool won't work until you turn on 'run as admin' in compatibility options, or give everyone permissions over the game files.

I'd wager that's your issue

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:36 PM

ah! might be. i dragged and dropped directly from the orignal data files.

will put in a new folder

and for textures they have to be in the same folder right?

benji 07-May-18 03:37 PM

Sure, however your 3D software likes it.

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 03:37 PM

Yes. Alternatively you can open the MTL in Notepad++ and change the paths en-masse

A simple find a replace all operation should do fine (edited)

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:38 PM

will try

i put the .x in a new folder and i still dont have the OBJ.

benji 07-May-18 03:40 PM

What did the console window say?

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:40 PM

i'll check

it says it's reading from the bionicle folder still not the new folder i copied the .x to

benji 07-May-18 03:42 PM

you need to drag the copied .x onto the tool

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:43 PM

i renamed the copied .x file and now it says it's from the new folder but still no new obj

i did. i dragged from the folder onto the LOMNTool app

should the tool be in the same folder?

benji 07-May-18 03:44 PM

It doesn't matter. What does the console window say?

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:45 PM

brb errand

back

system missing method exception

syste array empty

benji 07-May-18 03:48 PM

Update .NET Framework

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:48 PM

will do

benji 07-May-18 03:48 PM

4.6.2 is the minimum to fix that issue IIRC, but the latest will do

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:51 PM

installing

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 03:59 PM

apparently my computer doesnt like the latest .net. restarting it

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 08:35 PM

apparently my windows 8 cant take 4.6.2

and i'm afraid of upgrading

benji 07-May-18 09:22 PM

why didn't you do the Window 10 upgrade?

Also I'll make you a build for earlier

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:22 PM

oh thankyou! and i heard some bad things about widnows 10.

benji 07-May-18 09:23 PM

...dude, window 10 is windows 8, with tons of bad choices fixed

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:23 PM

ill upgrade then

benji 07-May-18 09:24 PM

I don't think the upgrade is still free

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:24 PM

ill upgrade to the latest avalible one then

benji 07-May-18 09:31 PM

This one should be OK with .NET 4.5

Attachment: LOMNTool_Debug_NETFX4.5.zip (249.29 KB)

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:31 PM

thankyou!

benji 07-May-18 09:33 PM

Also, Windows 8.1 (which is a free upgrade) will install the latest .NET

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:33 PM

thats what i am trying to do. i never updated to 8.1

2Tie 07-May-18 09:38 PM

big oof

benji 07-May-18 09:38 PM

So is that build working better?

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:38 PM

yes it seems to be writing the file this time. thankyou for this

how long does the process usually take?

wrote a dea!

any way i could make it output obj though?

benji 07-May-18 09:43 PM

yep, .DAE is Collada and will have vertex colors (and skinning in the future). For OBJ, open the LOMNTool.ini file, change the Format to be equal to OBJ instead of DAE, and save it.

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:43 PM

If I might interject a sec...

If his aim is to port the maps to a new engine, the vertex colours should probably be stripped anyways to make way for proper lighting.

To make it write obj, add this to your lomntool.ini:

[MODELS] Format=OBJ

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:44 PM

will do!

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:44 PM

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:45 PM

eh not rying to import into an engine per se, more like trying to make brand new assets with the orignal models as bases. basically uprezzing them at modern game resolutions

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:46 PM

Well... you're probably gonna run into multiple unresolvable issues doing that.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:46 PM

need the textures i their proper places because what used to be painted then is now sculpted

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:47 PM

For one, we don't know if the engine can HANDLE high poly stages. For another, the REASON we don't know this is because TLOMNTool bottlenecks its algorithm to the point where something as relatively simple as a Sonic 06 stage can take 8+ hours to convert.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:47 PM

oh i dont wanna import them back. just want to make high rez assets in general. like i dunno for animation or 3d printing

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:47 PM

Ah okay.

Well either way, you'll probably want the vertex colours stripped for that, yeah

The game uses vertex colours to make up about 90% of its "lighting"

By that I mean that basically the shading is pre-baked into the models

DAE preserves this. OBJ strips it.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:48 PM

yeah. actually was hoping they had a modle of the Kini Nui showcased in all the promo animations since a project of mine was recreating that. but they have the MNOG style which i think i could fiddle with to add the missing details

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:49 PM

Well if anyone ever gets a hold of the beta you'll probably get that.

benji 07-May-18 09:49 PM

wait, 8+ hours? Did you actually time it?

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:49 PM

I left the house with it still running for the day

I came back and it was still trying

benji 07-May-18 09:49 PM

well that's worse than I thought

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:49 PM

I told you. xD

benji 07-May-18 09:49 PM

No, not how long

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:49 PM

?

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:50 PM

nah it looks like it was a christian faber original for the promos alone. like they had the basic idea but exacuted differently.

actually asked him if he had the original on facebook but he hasnt replied

wonder how much of the game world is modled after Faber's orignal terrain map.

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:51 PM

Sort of? Here, hold on.

That's basically what you'd want.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:52 PM

oh i completley forgot of the two "sections" XD

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:52 PM

Ye

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:52 PM

i'll find what i'm talking about

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:52 PM

The main menu area uses the Faber design

The Kinis use the MNOG design

I made a Minecraft version a while ago that uses both

Pre proud of that.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:55 PM

https://biosector01.com/w/images/bs01/2/2a/Toamatacdkininui.PNG https://biosector01.com/w/images/bs01/9/90/Animation_Suva_Kaita.png https://biosector01.com/w/images/bs01/2/2d/BIONICLE_2003_teaser_poster.jpg the Suva Kaita as oppsoed to Amaja Nui

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:55 PM

Oh that

Well I mean that's basically the MNOG design

Just bigger

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:55 PM

and your micraft is pretty awesome

how in scale is it to the toa?:D

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:56 PM

As close as it would get

I also made it operational in the same way the LOMN version works in that one cutscene

https://www.facebook.com/Vahkiti/videos/vb.1404564277/10208722067754787/?type=3

Liam

Liam Amadeus Aaron Scott

Liam Amadeus Aaron Scott posted a video to his timeline.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 09:58 PM

and yes and no. the ones in the game are way simpler, with the pillars being streight blocks while the ones in the promo images have oval stones by the sides as well as disks. plus the ramps are proper stairs and there are 3 teirs instead of two, with the MNOLG style taking up the first two teirs. also had a bridge on either side which i think connected to the amaja nui

ahaha sweet! is there a whole mangia under it too?:D

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 09:59 PM

Sort of. That's not done yet though

I have the domes built. That's about it

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:00 PM

bet it looks awesome:D modled after TLOMN or Mask of Light's chamber?

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 10:00 PM

Again, likely a combination of those and MNOG.

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:00 PM

sweet

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:01 PM

What pieces is that Jalla made out of in the "7th" picture?

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 10:01 PM

I have the main entry from Kini Nui where you fight the Manas, then there would be Makuta's void dome, the MOL dome, and the Bohrok hive

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:02 PM

it looks like a prototype of the 2003 matoran. which used the throwbot style limb kopaka pohatu and lewa had instead of the bohrok limb in the final version

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:02 PM

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:03 PM

yeah. it seems faber used older toys and prototypes for these promo images

that 2009 teaser where mata Nui is looking at a giant limb? that was Matoro inika XD

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:06 PM

I think that was supposed symbolise Matoro as mata nui

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:06 PM

wonder if faber did textures for LOMN. they certainly had that 90s lego style he was known for

nope! he didnt have the mata nui glatorian with him and since it would be in sillohuette he figured nobody would notice

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:07 PM

Ah

I had a thought where mata nuis body was a mixture of the toa that used the ignika

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:09 PM

yeah. i figured he would have had the cg models like the other times but i also noticed some older promo art had clear photos of the tos instead of the models. plus i think it was early enough in development that mata Nui either wasnt finalized or it was a mockup meant for a pitch

gotta read up again but i think the mask of Life just cooked up the most versatile form it remebered which was a generic humanoid toa. technically that is just Toa Ignika with mata Nui's spirit XD

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:12 PM

You see parts of matoro on him like the shoulder blades and the Thai armor, the forearms, the shins

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:14 PM

i also wanna calculate size differnces since they shrunk the mask of life to fit on a glatorian head, while the original was like the biggest mask they made. so for such a big mask to be so tiny on a glatorian means Glatorians have to be giants compared to the already 7 foot toa XD

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:14 PM

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:17 PM

was Toa mata nui supposed to have similar features to matoro? cuz i just see the generic inikia legs and feet with the rest more or less from later years

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:18 PM

The shoulder blades have matoros claw weapons from when he was a toa mahri (edited)

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:20 PM

you mean they used the same element or like they were designed with that aesthtic in mind? because his shoulder armor is that new cresent sword that debut in 2009

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:20 PM

Ya

Idk I look at mata nuis design and I see both matoro and ignikas parts in there

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:23 PM

that's the beauty of lego

old parts can be used with new XD

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:23 PM

They also look like voya nui

The cressant swords

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:24 PM

that's true! though they way folks have been playing with them as well as the story signifigance they seem more modled after the outer shapes of the UDD symbol

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:24 PM

Ya

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:25 PM

wonder how much story influences the sets.

doubt they would do such deep homages to lore but i think charatcer pitch came first and then the design

G-Bond 07-May-18 10:27 PM

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:28 PM

gtg do errands. thank you @V A H K I T I and @benji for all your help!

V A H K I T I 07-May-18 10:28 PM

benji 07-May-18 10:30 PM

well did LOMNTool work out?

kaltathenoblemind 07-May-18 10:31 PM

yes! i got it to convert the X file and will do the edit to make it an OBJ

and holy crap could you export as zbrush? if i understand the vertex color line

gtg now

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 01:44 AM

question: is there a way to convert or modify the meshes so any polis that have a certain material be generated as their own seperate mesh? like any polygons that have the sandy floor texture is now a seperate object. because that's what 3D ripper did and it was ideal for me to uprez because all the elements are seperated already.

benji 08-May-18 01:54 AM

That's not a LOMNTool feature, if that's what you're asking. You can use Maya to automatically select all faces with a certain material, then use the 'Extract' button to pull them into their own object (edited)

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 01:55 AM

you can select by material?

oh it seems they are already seperated by material as in their verts arent weslded by the seams. but when i try to seperate them into objects it applies the same texture to everything ruining the plan

benji 08-May-18 01:59 AM

yep, open the Maya Hypershade, hold right click over a material, and click Select Objects with Material, then you can use the Edit Mesh > Detatch command.

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:00 AM

thanks will try that

doesnt work. says they need to be polygonal objects. but they show the orange selection highlight

benji 08-May-18 02:06 AM

yeah I don't think it can be rigged or something.

what model are you using?

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:07 AM

oh i'm not rigging i'm trying to extract.

um currently a ga-koro beach.

benji 08-May-18 02:09 AM

well that's odd, it works for me with Tahu's mesh

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:09 AM

wait my fault i was using the extract command not the detach

didnt know they were seperate commands

benji 08-May-18 02:10 AM

yeah I'm not sure what's up with that

They used to be one command, I think

so it works now?

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:10 AM

will check

nope. detach doesnt change anything and extract gives me the same message as before

maybe i need to weld the verts first and then run the extract. sicne they are tehcncislly seperate meshes already

extract just seperates and gives me the same warning about polygonal objects.

and when i decide to seperate them it messes up the textures.

i'm back to square oen where i have to manually apply the textures again. with 3dripper everything was at least seperated for you

benji 08-May-18 02:22 AM

wait, why do you want to re-apply textures if the materials are already there?

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:23 AM

because it's easier to sculpt on seperate patches instead of the mesh as a whole.

i wnanna sculpt out the painted textures and make the envirments more realistic if i make sense

benji 08-May-18 02:24 AM

Are you aware you can double-click with face selection to select all attached faces?

Maybe that will let you extract / detatch?

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:24 AM

i'll try.

and it messes up the textures still

i cant select a rock face that has the grey rock texture and import that rock face into zbrush. i have to select the rock face, extract then reapply the rockface texture which requires me to navigate the hypershade and match the material by eye since they arent properly labeled anymore and i have no real way to find the original material.

with 3dripper all meshes were seperated by materials/draw calls making it easy to chop up and extract. here despite already being seperated in such a way they are still a collected mesh

benji 08-May-18 02:30 AM

well I'm not going to twist your arm if you really want to use 3D Ripper.

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:30 AM

i know and i cant really use it anyway since it doesnt like the bionicle app anymore.

i just miss that super useful feature of seperating meshes by material. if there was an easier and more effcient tool that does that 'd use it but as i show no other method works

benji 08-May-18 02:32 AM

WAIT

What happens if you select the mesh, then pick Mesh > Separate

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:33 AM

messes up the materials. like applies the sandy floor material to everything.

was my first method. i figured the app didnt recognize here were distict materials on specific faces. and it still did the same thing with the material selection

guess i'm looking for a zbrush type thing where the materials act as polygroups

everythign with grass texture is its own mesh,everythign with rock texture is its own mesh etc and then i split those sub meshes into easier to manage patches based on UV. dont even have to worry about finding the material again because it's already contained on the orignal seperated mesh

but maya seems to apply i guess the nearest/first drawn/arbitrary material and overrides eveyrhting else.

i'm using maya 2017 btw. maybe 2018 has better features for this sort of thing

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:23 AM

trying a shader set transfer. i dont think it works on multiple meshes though

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:58 AM

wait i think i figured it out. i never went into face mode when i do the material selection but once i go there it seems to work. i can seperate the mesh by material now

thankyou for all your help @benji !

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 04:10 AM

nevermind still the same mesh texture errors.

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 04:28 AM

there is seriously no way to make LOMNTool seperate mesh faces based on texture automatically?

benji 08-May-18 05:04 AM

Remind me in 12 hours, I'll code it for you then.

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 05:04 AM

ooh thankyou

it feels like i should pay for these addons or soemthing.

not sure why maya's own tools are so difficult

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 05:14 AM

oh if i makes a difference the mesh seesm to be automatically two sided, like other meshes have the opposite side of the face be pitch black but this model just shows the default materials on each side. could that be a problem?

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 05:22 AM

https://www.highend3d.com/maya/script/detachseparate-mel-for-maya think i found a solution. apparently this is a known issue with maya

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 08:16 AM

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/maya-forum/maya-2017-update-3-different-materials-on-one-mesh/td-p/6975677 and the problem seems to be with maya 2017. well known bug

Maya 2017 update 3 different materials on one mesh

1. Create two spheres 2. Create two blin materials. Set different colors in this materials. 3. Assign first material on first sphere and second mat on second mesh 4. Combine two meshes in one. 5. Separate it. Enjoy bug. Two new meshes have one...

benji 08-May-18 02:06 PM

Also I just realized you can do a simple find and replace in notepad++ to separate everything out

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:29 PM

mightt ry that if i knew notepad.

i am mainly working on a mac with a cheap widnows laptop for specific apps. i also know little of coding

benji 08-May-18 02:42 PM

alright finished it

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:42 PM

looking awesome benji

i'm guessing the material selection and extraction bug was fixed in maya 2018

benji 08-May-18 02:44 PM

I have included a configuration file that will activate the splitting.

Attachment: LOMNTool_Release_MaterialSplit.zip (237.44 KB)

The splitting is behind an option in the INI file because if you re-import the split OBJ back to a .X file, the results will be totally different.

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 02:45 PM

thakyou for everything benji. i feel like i should compensate you for the trouble you were going through.

i put you trhough*

and i think i would have soved myself by upgrading or using an olde version of maya XD

benji 08-May-18 02:46 PM

nah this was by far the easiest request anyone's made

I feel like someone should compensate you for Maya not working

let me know how this works for you

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:01 PM

back. and will try in a moment

eh i am told maya was always a bad app XD and it is only used due to legacy.

though i am told the latest update fixes a lot of stuff,especially the UVs

personally hate how cumbersom the selection sets are,especially now that zbrush turns polygroups into selection sets with their bridge

benji 08-May-18 03:07 PM

well, I personally like Maya above all other 3D programs. I guess it's just a taste thing.

3DS Max is where the 'just used due to legacy' comes into play.

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:07 PM

same! it's my main poly app and its poly modeling tools are sufficent enough. for my needs XD

i actually want to try 3ds max as it seems to have native CAD tools as well as some features i would kill for

like a lattice deformer that adds cuts and divisions to the orignal model so it deforms better, and a symmetry tool that automaticlaly instances the other side

saw a tutorial on modeling a fountain and it made cornerstones like it was nothing

also i think it has better nurbs than maya. and i am surprised nurbs are barley used for 3d graphics,mainly staying for 3d print and cad.

benji 08-May-18 03:11 PM

'a symmetry tool that automaticlaly instances the other side' I'm pretty sure Maya can do this.

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:12 PM

eh i may be explaining it badly.

what i seen 3ds max do is automatically sew the edges. basically it's a symmetrical boolean where the instances sew on the intersections. with mya i'd have to delete the excess eometry and sew them together myself

benji 08-May-18 03:14 PM

ah yeah you can do that in Maya too

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:14 PM

really? is this a new feature or an old overlooked one? cuz no tutorial i seen ever shwon it

benji 08-May-18 03:15 PM

Just tried it, here's a cube that was mirrored with the slice and merge options

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:16 PM

the 3ds max example basically made a cornerstone out of a rectangular brick by having an instanced brick turn 90 degrees and deleted intersecting geometry and sewing the "slices" making a cornerstone with the same properties as the orignal brick

benji 08-May-18 03:17 PM

here are the relevant settings in the Mirror command

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:17 PM

oh that. it makes Ngons while 3ds max seems to have an automatic quadrulanction feature

benji 08-May-18 03:18 PM

well that seems like a win for Maya

I know I don't want it auto-messing with my topology, but there's always the Mesh > Quadrangulate command when you're ready

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:18 PM

true! also where is this mirror command located?

benji 08-May-18 03:19 PM

Mesh > Mirror

in the Modeling menu set

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:20 PM

it seems to be a 2018 exclusive. i only ave 2017

benji 08-May-18 03:20 PM

no, it's been in there for ages

it could be in a different menu

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:20 PM

wait nevermind found it. new feature in 2017

oh? hmm. news to me

benji 08-May-18 03:21 PM

nah, mirror has been in there since before Maya was bought by Autodesk, before it started using years as the version number...

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:22 PM

ah yeah i see. recognize the tool. doesnt seem to have the same capabilities as the 3ds tool i talk about. though i have to remeber what its called

benji 08-May-18 03:23 PM

Also you mentioned merging bricks, here's the Mesh > Booleans > Union command

(and I triangulated it to better illustrate)

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:24 PM

ah yeah maya booleans seem to be the messiest. least compared to Modo;s meshFusion and ZBrushs livebooleans

benji 08-May-18 03:26 PM

well, it certainly isn't made for sculpting

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:28 PM

true though its problems seem to be just leaving ngons and requiring a lot of post work. easier to model in the cuts you want as opposed to making them with other objects if i make sense

like manually patch the new geometry features instead of lettign the app generate them

benji 08-May-18 03:30 PM

oh yeah

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:30 PM

need to make a female half spehere to get a socket instead of doing a subtract with a spehre

benji 08-May-18 03:30 PM

Maya is definitely not CAD software like SolidWorks or Inventor

where you union / subtract everything

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:31 PM

3ds max had that feature though. before the whole 3d printing craze too

benji 08-May-18 03:31 PM

when you say 'that feature' you mean a slightly better boolean tool?

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:32 PM

i think thats what i was getting at. it automated certain features lettign you focus more on form building instead of tedious patching

benji 08-May-18 03:32 PM

yeah I guess that's a fair Maya complaint, there's a good bit of patching to be done

But I personally don't trust Max or any other app to do it the way I want it, so I prefer Maya

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:33 PM

it's mainly a charatcer animation suite though,not meant for atcual asset building.

hah yeah. maya just works for what you need it to

benji 08-May-18 03:34 PM

I guess I'm a low-poly kind of person

I could never accomplish anything in sculpting software like Mudbox or Zbrush.

kaltathenoblemind 08-May-18 03:35 PM

guess it's workflow. from what i seen stuff like zbrush allows you to seperate form and cunction if i make sense.

like you can sculpt a detailed charatcer with perfecta anatomy and then you get a skinner and rigger to make a functional lowpoly retopology that can be deformed and rigged. dont have to worry about that at the beginning since it will be fixed during retopology

and the stuff i want to do requires high detail. hollywood VFX and its little sister prop fabrication.

quick booleans lets you mae complex assets out of simple primitves without the tediom of making the patches match and fit

charatcer modeler Shane Olson is a master at the primitives fusion technique. like he has a collection of soft tubes and balls that make up limbs and major landmarks like heads hips ad ribs. and his charatcers look super smooth and appealing because of it.

oh and Vitaly Bulgarov has booleans ad his bread and butter. uses CAD like fusion360 in his concepts and i think MOI3d for cutting up poly models as soem tuts use it exclusivly

Dragon Label 11-May-18 10:04 AM

hello i have problems launching LoMN, windows 10 64 bit, core i7 7700, nvidia gtx 1050. Set compatibility to windows xp (tried both sp3 and sp 1 version), run as administrator, all that happens is the screen turning black for a couple sec and then the program ends

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 11-May-18 10:09 AM

Have you installed the patches?

Dragon Label 11-May-18 10:09 AM

no, where can i get them?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 11-May-18 10:11 AM

I haven't used this myself but I believe this link will get you setlled. http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/BIONICLE%20Launcher%20Installer.exe

Trying it now to see if it does what our boy @V A H K I T I actually says it does.

Yep, seems to work as advertised.

@Dragon Label http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/BIONICLE%20Launcher%20Installer.exe

Dragon Label 11-May-18 10:28 AM

thanks a bunch, i'll check if it works!

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 11-May-18 10:30 AM

Good luck!

Dragon Label 11-May-18 11:32 AM

it does indeed work, thank you!

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 11-May-18 11:36 AM

You're very welcome!

omegalucas 12-May-18 03:28 PM

@V A H K I T I my (previously installed) launcher is going through an update loop

It updates, I open it, it asks to update again

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 03:29 PM

Does it not download the installer?

omegalucas 12-May-18 03:29 PM

It does. And installs

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 03:29 PM

Does it have the Launch beta button?

omegalucas 12-May-18 03:30 PM

And it did update, as the notes mention v1. 0

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 03:30 PM

That's a remote page

omegalucas 12-May-18 03:30 PM

But no beta button

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 03:30 PM

It'll update regardless

omegalucas 12-May-18 03:30 PM

No beta button

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 03:31 PM

I might have beefed the installer because I was rushed. let me double check

omegalucas 12-May-18 03:31 PM

Wait

I got it

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 03:32 PM

It works now?

omegalucas 12-May-18 03:32 PM

For some reason it didn't default to my installation path

Either that or it's the fact I was using the shortcut to the old version

If I go to latest installs and open there the correct launcher opens

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 03:33 PM

Yeah, it installs to a new path.

It's supposed to delete the old one on launch

omegalucas 12-May-18 03:34 PM

Didn't delete for me

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 03:41 PM

dammit liam

BioMaster(André) 12-May-18 03:42 PM

I can't start the beta

wut do

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 03:43 PM

Liam messed up the launcher, he's on it.

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 03:43 PM

SHould be a new update live.

Reminder to do exactly what the splash screen says and install it to your Lego Media directory

BioMaster(André) 12-May-18 03:44 PM

did that

ShadowDraikana 12-May-18 03:46 PM

Alright I'm gonna bug out. If you need me let me know.

This is where I pray everythig I did doesn't break, lol

New bug, I repeat, new bug

Vatuka-Nui softlocks after you die

Roy8012 12-May-18 03:51 PM

i clicked the installer but didn't see anything appearing but the installer was still running from what i checked

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 03:54 PM

I've had that.

Roy8012 12-May-18 03:55 PM

so nothing appeared at the screen but the installer was running so idk if it's common

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 04:08 PM

The head of our development team here went into an interview immediately after the launch and is unavailable to help with the bad launcher he made! We're professionals!

(edited)

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:13 PM

Oi @Roy8012 http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/BIONICLE%20Launcher%20Installer.exe

Download that and give it a whirl

Roy8012 12-May-18 04:13 PM

oh sorry i forgot to mention i downloaded it again from the link and this time i gone through the installation

im at the launcher menu right now and ill play the beta, sorry for not mentioning

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:15 PM

Ah okay

Well as long as ya got it working!

I would recommend however updating your launcher eventually anyways as on the current version, you won't get push updates

goji 12-May-18 04:16 PM

?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:16 PM

This has always been an isue

Just ignore it

Roy8012 12-May-18 04:16 PM

alright, got it

goji 12-May-18 04:16 PM

alright

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 04:33 PM

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:34 PM

?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 04:38 PM

the launcher uses a bad link

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:41 PM

Yeah, thought so.

I installed the new one but it's still in the update loop. Anyone able to help?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:42 PM

You downloaded it from the link I sent just now?

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:43 PM

bit.ly/LegendNoLonger ?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:43 PM

Ye

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:44 PM

Yeah. Still in the loop.

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:44 PM

If you downloaded it before a half an hour ago, you still have the borked version

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:44 PM

Nope. Not even five minutes ago.

justframbo 12-May-18 04:45 PM

i've re-downloaded the installer, downloaded the game yet when i press play it says 'base game not found'

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:46 PM

Are you downloading the game through the launcher or using the original disk image?

justframbo 12-May-18 04:46 PM

launcher

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:46 PM

What's your folder structure?

justframbo 12-May-18 04:46 PM

it's under a file in my D: drive#

so is the launcher

i've tried opening the game itself directly too

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:46 PM

THat doesn't tell me anything.

justframbo 12-May-18 04:47 PM

idk what you mean by folder structure

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:47 PM

It's installed in the default location on mine

justframbo 12-May-18 04:47 PM

it's not under the default

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:48 PM

Well where IS everything then?

I need to know the contents of your lego media folder

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:49 PM

Alright. It download the base for the beta but just cuts out partway through.

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:49 PM

That.. sounds like a server or internet issue

justframbo 12-May-18 04:49 PM

my pc has 2 drives, the OS and an extra (D:) drive

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:49 PM

My internet's fine.

justframbo 12-May-18 04:50 PM

i've got LoMN beta and the launcher under a file in the non OS drive

UTTER_BODGE 12-May-18 04:50 PM

too many people trying to download it?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:50 PM

It's possible

justframbo 12-May-18 04:50 PM

maybe

UTTER_BODGE 12-May-18 04:50 PM

how's the BMP server doing

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:50 PM

@justframbo Again, that doesn't tell me anything

UTTER_BODGE 12-May-18 04:50 PM

the video's already passed 10,000 views

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:50 PM

I need to know the contents of your LEGO MEDIA folder

justframbo 12-May-18 04:51 PM

ohhh

UTTER_BODGE 12-May-18 04:51 PM

... actually 11,000 now

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:51 PM

Dam

justframbo 12-May-18 04:51 PM

i don't have a lego media

hm

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:51 PM

Did you install the launcher somewhere different from the bionicle beta folder?

justframbo 12-May-18 04:51 PM

yes

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:51 PM

The two folders need to be in the same place

justframbo 12-May-18 04:52 PM

i put the beta into the beta folder afterwards

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:52 PM

This was explained in the splash screen of the installer.

That won't work

justframbo 12-May-18 04:52 PM

hm

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:52 PM

THey NEED to be installed to the same folder

justframbo 12-May-18 04:52 PM

ok ok imma uninstall and try agian sorry for being difficult...

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:52 PM

Nah it's k

justframbo 12-May-18 04:52 PM

i've buggered this somehow...

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:52 PM

It's an easy fix. Dw.

justframbo 12-May-18 04:54 PM

ok

so i did find the lego media

but i cleared it

goji 12-May-18 04:54 PM

Rip, game crashed when i fell off the ledge that shakes and falls as you run on it on Onuas level after you meet kapura

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:55 PM

Yeah.. the game has issues with death.

justframbo 12-May-18 04:55 PM

so should i reinstall under that file?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:55 PM

Ye

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:55 PM

Don't we all :')

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:55 PM

Or just copy paste

justframbo 12-May-18 04:56 PM

eheh, deleted so

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:56 PM

Just make sure LEGO Bionicle (Beta) and LEGO Bionicle Launcher are in the same folder

justframbo 12-May-18 04:56 PM

TAKE TWO

right

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:56 PM

Ditto for the alpha

justframbo 12-May-18 04:56 PM

thanks for the help!

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 04:56 PM

SHould just be named LEGO Bionicle

No prob.

Teylgate 12-May-18 04:57 PM

aaaAAAAAAAAA

justframbo 12-May-18 04:58 PM

what's up?

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:02 PM

IT DOES NOT W O R K

I'VE INSTALLED AND UNINSTALLED THE LAUNCHER THREE TIMES IN THE LAST FIVE MINUTES IN THE DESPERATE HOPE IT'LL START WORKING

BUT NOTHINF

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:02 PM

It's still cutting midway?

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:03 PM

Yeah. Running alot slower now, though. I'll keep a close eye to see exactly where.

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:03 PM

Try downloading the setup file manually: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/setupbeta.exe

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:03 PM

Alright.

omegalucas 12-May-18 05:03 PM

Goddamnit you guys. I had to call an ambulance because of the beta hype

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:03 PM

omegalucas 12-May-18 05:04 PM

And I mean that literally

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:04 PM

?

Why??

omegalucas 12-May-18 05:04 PM

Not because of the hype

Was nauseated and puked a couple times and started feeling chest pain

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:05 PM

Aww ;-;

omegalucas 12-May-18 05:05 PM

It's probably a panic attack

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:05 PM

The makuta's influence is spreading

omegalucas 12-May-18 05:05 PM

Still getting a new experience

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:05 PM

You are the hivemind

justframbo 12-May-18 05:07 PM

you doing any better? blimey...

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:08 PM

^

I KEEP FORGETTING IM THINN

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:09 PM

You sure are. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:10 PM

I'm not thinn

You've seen that

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:10 PM

You know what I mean. xD

Teylgate 12-May-18 05:10 PM

XD

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:11 PM

So I literally can't launch the game because I keep getting this error

Orikume (Space Waifu) 12-May-18 05:11 PM

i've been getting that too...

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:11 PM

Manually update your launcher from the original download link. I beefed a bit of code in the version that got auto-pushed.

That was my bad.

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:12 PM

wait what I'm confused

wouldn't that just redownload the current launcher I have

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:13 PM

No

I pushed an update but the same code I beefed also beefed the auto-update code

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:13 PM

Oh, okay

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:13 PM

I'm dum, and was also in a rush. xD

Orikume (Space Waifu) 12-May-18 05:15 PM

is there anyway to uninstall the older launcher?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 05:15 PM

There's no need to do that to update it

In fact, here

Attachment: BIONICLE_The_Legend_of_Mata_Nui_Launcher.exe (1.24 MB)

Just replace your EXE with that

It should get the job done

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:17 PM

alright, let's see what happens

justframbo 12-May-18 05:28 PM

hm

still saying it's not installed

maybe i should move to OS drive

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:29 PM

Well fuuuuuuuuuuuuuug

It actually ran this time but I got this in front of a white screen @V A H K I T I

This is the beta patch B still BTW (edited)

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:34 PM

I get the same error message

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 05:36 PM

That seems different, uh-oh!

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:36 PM

Where am I suppossed to put the launcher again?

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:37 PM

somewhere around C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle Launcher

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 05:37 PM

Launcher appears to be in C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle\Launcher

omegalucas 12-May-18 05:37 PM

@justframbo Yes, I'm doing fine, thank you. It was probably just a scare.

justframbo 12-May-18 05:37 PM

ok

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 05:37 PM

justframbo 12-May-18 05:37 PM

stay safe

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:38 PM

huuuuh

I don't have a separate launcher folder

(but it still works fine)

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:38 PM

I think I'll need a step by step guide lol

ESGDorney 12-May-18 05:39 PM

me too... im so confused

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:39 PM

So scroll up a bit and download the file off Discord. Then, navigate to that folder, starting from C:\ and copy the file into that folder

iConiCdays 12-May-18 05:40 PM

Any idea on how to make it full screen?

F11 doesn't work

ESGDorney 12-May-18 05:42 PM

maybe Alt+Enter?

iConiCdays 12-May-18 05:44 PM

Ok that worked thanks

But it's stuck in 4:3?

It's checked the voodoo settings but I can't quite see what I'm meant to change to get it to render at 16:9

ESGDorney 12-May-18 05:45 PM

i still dont know how to get the game working cause the launcher cant find it after downloading the files

and I did download the .exe from this room and its still the same problem

Roy8012 12-May-18 05:48 PM

lauched it and i just see a black screen, i also had the microsoft .net framework error aswell

iConiCdays 12-May-18 05:48 PM

Ok, if you use the kanohi Huna on galis level it crashes with an exception c0000005 at address: 0051af6a

ESGDorney 12-May-18 05:49 PM

does this game have multi language?

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:49 PM

Am I doing this right

iConiCdays 12-May-18 05:50 PM

Tahu-mata, I don't think it works on Mac, correct me if I'm wrong but this is a Windows program?

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:50 PM

I use Wine

It should be fine

iConiCdays 12-May-18 05:50 PM

Ah my bad

I was just about to say

You might need to use wine

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:51 PM

Wouldn't be able to play Melty or KOF on this without it

ESGDorney 12-May-18 05:52 PM

okay... please... can someone slowly explain every single step for installing the game for win10? Im totally lost...

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:53 PM

My question wasn't answeeeeered

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:53 PM

I think our dev team might be a liiiiitle busy with the flood of new users from the DidYouKnowGaming video :S

Roy8012 12-May-18 05:53 PM

e_e

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:53 PM

I don't watch DYKG

Roy8012 12-May-18 05:53 PM

guess ill just wait for my issue then

ESGDorney 12-May-18 05:55 PM

it's not the fault of anyone it's just... the entire Bionicle comunity wants a good Bionicle game they never got... and now they can have it... and want to play it

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:55 PM

Just what does this mean exactly?

I'm so confused

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:56 PM

It creates the preceding directory for you

Don't worry about it

ESGDorney 12-May-18 05:56 PM

It means: (this following contains a bad joke) In a few hours the sun will rise :3

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:57 PM

@ESGDorney 1. Click on this link http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/BIONICLE%20Launcher%20Installer.exe and open the file. 2. Just keep clicking next and breeze through the installation 3. You'll eventually get to the actual launcher, where you can click on various buttons to play the various versions

Ignore all the warnings that Windows will throw at you about it not being "safe"

As you can see it's totally fine

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 05:57 PM

Wine, oof O_X (edited)

@Roy8012 Are you using the launcher?

ESGDorney 12-May-18 05:58 PM

okay I deleted ANYTHING I downloaded and try what you listed

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 05:58 PM

Yes, that's good

Roy8012 12-May-18 05:59 PM

i used the launcher to play the beta, then it said there's a patch so i let it download it, then the game ran but i only saw a black screen and what the menu says as usual

then i tried to play the beta through launcher again but it asked for the patch again so idk

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 05:59 PM

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 05:59 PM

@Hakurei | Tahu【火】 Install that to the "Lego Media" directory insatead of the Lego Bionicle directories

@Roy8012 The launcher may be using a bad link, we're working on it.

Toa of Gallifrey 12-May-18 06:00 PM

not sure if this is the place to ask and sorry if I'm being dumb in advance, but what do I do to install the game? I downloaded the launcher installer from biomedia project but when I run it nothing happens. I assume it's cause my hard drive is pretty full. Are 8 GB of free disk space enough to install the game? (edited)

Roy8012 12-May-18 06:00 PM

Oh, alright.

Guess i'll wait for tomorrow then, dunno.

I also tried playing through the beta itself like in the folder, but I still got a black screen but there was also that net framework error

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:03 PM

Sorry if I'm being an inconvenience, I kinda should've realised there would be a new influx of people from DYKG

~~Fucking normies~~

Toa of Gallifrey 12-May-18 06:04 PM

reeeeeee

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:04 PM

@Toa of Gallifrey 8 GB is more than enough but WOOOOOOOOOOAH I would recommend doing something about that before playing a gaem X_X

Toa of Gallifrey 12-May-18 06:04 PM

lol yeah I have a lot of shit to clean up

all my other games run, though, would it cause the launcher installer not to work or is it a separate problem i have to address? (edited)

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 06:05 PM

I'm seeing if the alpha works and oh my god this installation is the most retro thing I've seen in years

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:05 PM

@Roy8012 It may get fixed later today, Vahkiti is the one who manages the launcher and he's doing an interview as we speak so he's busy. This is why managers aren't supposed to do things themselves.

BioMaster(André) 12-May-18 06:06 PM

in the beta after defeating the boss in Onua's level the cutscene before gali's level doesn't load

I just load in the area and fall to my death

then crash

Roy8012 12-May-18 06:06 PM

Got it. I don't mind waiting until he'll work on it.

It's 1:07 AM here anyways.

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:07 PM

@Hakurei | Tahu【火】 It may be too much for the rest of us, but I get overwhelmed pretty easily, this is basically no different than how it feels to be me normally.

@BioMaster(André) That sounds similar to the issue that got the game cancelled in the first place; I assumed we'd fixed that one lol. Hopefully we can get that fixed for you as soon as our manager is done with his stupid interview.

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 06:12 PM

aaaand this is what happens when I try to launch the alpha X_X

justframbo 12-May-18 06:13 PM

hms

still getting the black-to-white-then-nothing thing with opening it

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:13 PM

Constraction_Deva 12-May-18 06:13 PM

I can't see the cursor or maximize the window

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:13 PM

This is how it should look like, right?

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:15 PM

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 06:15 PM

@justframbo I get the same thing when I double-click the alpha shortcut that landed on my desktop, except no white appears before it closes

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:15 PM

@Hakurei | Tahu【火】

justframbo 12-May-18 06:16 PM

hm

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:16 PM

i click continue, and nothing happens

this is for the alpha build

justframbo 12-May-18 06:16 PM

AHA

it works

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:16 PM

@Constraction_Deva That issue doesn't sound familiar and needs to be looked into by @V A H K I T I after he's done with his interview. :/

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:16 PM

beta final build works

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:16 PM

@justframbo Good to hear!

Constraction_Deva 12-May-18 06:16 PM

okay

thanks

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:16 PM

alpha aint working using the launcher

justframbo 12-May-18 06:17 PM

i opened 'Patch' and let it do its thing, and it works!

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:17 PM

@Deadgineer Well that's weird!

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 06:17 PM

@justframbo Where is 'Patch'

wait o

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:18 PM

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:19 PM

wait

is the new patch supposed replace some of the fmv's with blank files?

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:19 PM

Is it like this?

My head is starting to huuurt

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 06:20 PM

Yes, I have that on my end too

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:20 PM

@Deadgineer That doesn't sound right! Oh no!

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:20 PM

its called patchb.exe

it also replaced some mp3 files

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:20 PM

@Hakurei | Tahu【火】

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:21 PM

is it supposed to open in a giant window?

this is the fina build

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:21 PM

There isn't a Launcher folder in my end (edited)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:21 PM

A user in some other channel somewhere is having a similar issue, that doesn't seem right. Huh.

justframbo 12-May-18 06:22 PM

Under 'beta' folder @SilverDeoxys563

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:22 PM

@Hakurei | Tahu【火】 I'll be honest, Linux is weird. It may not work. We apparently have a guy working on a Mac port, maybe we can get it working right in Linux. :/ (edited)

justframbo 12-May-18 06:22 PM

Any guides for controls?

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 06:22 PM

I just tried extracting the archive, clicked "yes" to replacing everything and it still gives me the exception exactly like before

justframbo 12-May-18 06:23 PM

Hm

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:23 PM

mouse cursor also invisible

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:23 PM

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) Can you show me what's on your launcher folder?

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:24 PM

do i have to do some stuff with dgvoodoo or something?

Bardin 12-May-18 06:25 PM

I've also had loads of different issues trying to get this running Right now I am at the point where when I launch the beta I get the Alpha style start screen and have to boot from front end Then I finally end up with the same visuals as above and no cursor

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:25 PM

damn, this sucks, i hope there is a way to resolve this

Kaylie Vinchenstein 12-May-18 06:25 PM

I'm still coming up with the beta screen too

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:26 PM

ive always wanted to play this game

Constraction_Deva 12-May-18 06:26 PM

yeah, I think the mouse and window problems are common now

Kaylie Vinchenstein 12-May-18 06:26 PM

liam picked a poor time to start an interview

Ironhide615| Joycon boy 12-May-18 06:26 PM

I cant launch the beta : (

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:27 PM

i would play this on my real windows 98 pc, but i highly doubt a single voodoo 2 would run the final version well

maybe it could run the alpha

but most certainly not the final

BioMaster(André) 12-May-18 06:28 PM

@Ironhide615| Joycon boy Download the latest Launcher manually

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:31 PM

it looks like some new updates will need to be done, and perhaps a video on running this game

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:33 PM

Definitely

@😺 QSKSw (Josie)

Ironhide615| Joycon boy 12-May-18 06:34 PM

@BioMaster(André) i did and everytime i start it it stops working

BioMaster(André) 12-May-18 06:34 PM

What do you mean?

Ironhide615| Joycon boy 12-May-18 06:35 PM

i start it then it says Bionicle.exe stops working

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:35 PM

@Deadgineer Prior to becoming known as the people who released LOMN, we were a Let's Play channel; we'll be doing a stream of the game tomorrow and hopefully be able to walk people through the technicals while putting on an entertaining show.

(edited)

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:35 PM

i saw

good commentary

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:35 PM

thank

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 06:36 PM

mr skeltal

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:36 PM

@SilverDeoxys563 huh, that used to be my old name

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 06:36 PM

old meme

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:36 PM

Josie, can you answer my question, please...?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:36 PM

@Ironhide615| Joycon boy There's always the possibility that you're experiencing a unique issue that we'll need to look into. If you can't get it working, I promise you we'll do what we can to fix it soon.

Ironhide615| Joycon boy 12-May-18 06:37 PM

Okay thank you

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:37 PM

@Hakurei | Tahu【火】 Oh no, didn't see, what was your question? I'm sorry.

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:38 PM

Can you show me what's on your launcher folder?

lain 12-May-18 06:38 PM

Nut

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:41 PM

@Hakurei | Tahu【火】

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:42 PM

what dgvoodoo settings do you use?

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:42 PM

So the same on my end, then

Launcher just won't run for some reason

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:44 PM

Huh. Seems like it. We'll take care of it soon, I'm sure!

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:45 PM

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) sorry to bother, but could you show what dgboodoo settings you used for the final beta build?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:47 PM

Never messed with the DGVooDoo settings, but I'll take a screenshot anyway. :3

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:48 PM

thank you

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:48 PM

They're streaming the game tomorrow, right?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:49 PM

Yep yep, tomorrow at 4 PM EST

Hakurei | Tahu【火】 12-May-18 06:49 PM

I'll probably just watch that until I can figure this out

Thanks for trying to help tho

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:50 PM

well, i removed the dg voodoo files, and now the game seems to run correctly, but i dont have a mouse cursor

and also is not wide screen

i guess i need to edit this file for widescreen

as for my issue with mouse cursor not showing?

idk

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:56 PM

@Friends Liam just said on the stream that he's a moron and the launcher is bugged! Manually redownload it from https://bit.ly/LegendNoLonger and it should solve a couple of your issues, but I'm sure there's still some work for us to do. :3 (edited)

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:56 PM

does this fix that annoything dgvoodoo watermark?

Roy8012 12-May-18 06:56 PM

sure, i'll try again

Deadgineer 12-May-18 06:57 PM

speaking of dgvoodoo

the latest version, 2.55 is out

from what i can tell, the launcher is behind a version

at leastm the launcher i have rn

am downloading the new one right now

ESGDorney 12-May-18 06:58 PM

lol is the crash after getting Vakamas mask in Onu-Vahi common?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 06:58 PM

Oh if only I could chain Liam to a desk and make him fix all of these.

Deadgineer 12-May-18 07:03 PM

ugh

i just had it fixed too

the new update seems to have reverted it back

Constraction_Deva 12-May-18 07:04 PM

is it still doing that?

Deadgineer 12-May-18 07:04 PM

yup :/

Constraction_Deva 12-May-18 07:04 PM

well no point in downloading it again yet

Deadgineer 12-May-18 07:14 PM

so to report, glitched window, no widescreen, no mouse cursor, doing alt enter doesnt fill up the screen, but rather just stays in one corner of the screen idk what the hell im doing wrong here

editing the ini file manually doesnt work either :/

INACTIVE ACCOUNT 12-May-18 07:15 PM

At first I thought with the .ini file that this was an Unreal Engine 1 game imo @Deadgineer

Constraction_Deva 12-May-18 07:24 PM

not sure if this is a bug or I am playing wrong and am stupid, but my energy bar reads empty and I can still use my power:

Ironhide615| Joycon boy 12-May-18 07:28 PM

is anyone else having this problem?

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 07:29 PM

I get that exact same problem with the beta version yesssssss (edited)

BoneJones 12-May-18 07:29 PM

im just missing graphics, the rest of the game seems to run just fine

is there something i need to download or update

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 07:32 PM

I wonder if the game would work if I messed around with the "Contifugre dgVooDoo" button

Ironhide615| Joycon boy 12-May-18 07:34 PM

if you make it end up working please tell me how u did that (edited)

Deadgineer 12-May-18 07:36 PM

i hope someone can help me out with the bugs and issues i have

scroll up to find them if curious

Metroidwave 12-May-18 07:37 PM

When I try to switch to the Ruru, Onua's mask becomes a jittery mess of both masks, and neithe rcan be used

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 12-May-18 07:37 PM

Oh no I forgot, somebody asked for a screenshot of my DGVoodoo settings, oh no!

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 07:37 PM

yeee this might help

let's see if it works if I copy these over

Nope, that's the same as what I got and it seems those are the default settings

I disabled the watermarks for when it finally works tho

Constraction_Deva 12-May-18 07:48 PM

oof

HA

Ironhide615| Joycon boy 12-May-18 07:49 PM

i get the same thing but except it’s instantly

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 07:50 PM

Seems to be a weirdly common but inconsistent bug. @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) got it a bunch too, bt none of us ever did.

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 07:50 PM

Is there a fix for it?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 07:50 PM

Not currently since I can't even replicate it to begin with. :/

Might wanna ask him about that

Maybe he can collect and cross reference your system details

UTTER_BODGE 12-May-18 07:56 PM

@Constraction_Deva not sure if this is a bug or I am playing wrong and am stupid, but my energy bar reads empty and I can still use my power: that's a different energy bar

your ammo count is in the lower right corner

... which is being cut off

game window is taller than your screen

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:00 PM

@V A H K I T I is it at all possible to program in a crash logger?

this would make fixing bugs much easier

it seems until there be more bug fixes, such as that odd window issue and such, ill have to wait a bit to play the game

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:03 PM

Odd window issue?

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:04 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470639513960451/444998205701226506/unknown.png

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:04 PM

Just change the resolution in DGVoodoo and the INI dude.

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:04 PM

and doing alt enter, the game doesnt fill up the whole screen

idk man

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:05 PM

Did you change it in DGVoodoo as well?

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:05 PM

okay, seems to be working now

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:05 PM

:3

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:06 PM

only thing is that it starts windowed, but thats easilly fixed by using alt enter

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:06 PM

Ay

Ezilo20 12-May-18 08:06 PM

can anyone else launch the beta?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:06 PM

You can also set that to default to fullscreen in dgvoodoo if you wish

Ezilo20 12-May-18 08:06 PM

its installed but the launcher says it needs to be installed

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 08:06 PM

So, I chatted with the guy you told me to talk to and he's like, "Im a graphics designer how would I know how to fix the issue?" and we figured out my AMD drivers are all up to date

@V A H K I T I

Ezilo20 12-May-18 08:06 PM

im on win10

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:07 PM

@Ezilo20 Update the launcher manually. I mentioned this before, but I borked some of the code. (edited)

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:07 PM

since im using anti ailaising and shit, should i raise the vram on the virtual dgvoodoo card?

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 08:07 PM

Thought I did that already

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:07 PM

@SilverDeoxys563 Idk. I figured you two could compare system specs since you both have the same issue that I can't personally replicate. :/

@Deadgineer No point tbh

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:07 PM

aight

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:09 PM

I'm gonna go on a Tim's run cause I've had one hell of a tiring day. If anyone needs me, shoot me a PM. Otherwise I'll be back in an hour or two.

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:09 PM

sweet, its working perfectly now

i do wonder, are fmv's supposed to play back?

cause i aint seeing any

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:10 PM

THey are, but as the patch notes suggest, there are unresolved issues with them and the upres patches

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:10 PM

ah

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:10 PM

So they've been temporarily dummied out

Again

They are still in the files though. I just moved them

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:10 PM

i guess we might have to update the bink player

but idk

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:10 PM

Easier said than done

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 08:10 PM

I'll hang tight and figure out eBay stuff I guess. See you in a bit, and let me know if you know of any devs who might know some coding to figure out the issue

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 08:11 PM

I'll have @Hexadecimal Mantis, @UTTER_BODGE, or @ShadowDraikana look into it at their earliest convenience.

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 12-May-18 08:12 PM

not sure how but every time I try to fullscreen the application it almost immediately windows itself again...

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 08:13 PM

Got it, thanks guys, you're doing God's work

(edited)

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 12-May-18 08:16 PM

update: glitch apparently caused by winamp being forcibly docked to top of screen

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:17 PM

another minor bug, on the main menu, sometimes the cursor is invisible

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 12-May-18 08:19 PM

I'm getting that too ^^

scottgabe22 12-May-18 08:45 PM

the game beta has a black screen thoughout. ive tried editing bionicle.ixi but no luck. plus ive run it usin win xp mode on win 7. any suggestions

Eljay Johnsen 12-May-18 08:50 PM

Alright, I give. I know this isn't really a "bug," but I'm spacing on what the fix is for this (if there is one):

This is in fullscreen, I just can't figure out how to get it to fill the screen.

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:51 PM

you need to specify a widescreen resolution

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 08:52 PM

Well crap, even Eljay got the game to work

I'm just stuck here with my exceptions and screen turning black and immediately closing bugs :< (edited)

Deadgineer 12-May-18 08:52 PM

you need to go to your ini file within the game folder and set the resolution there

also need to tweak some things in dgvoodoo

Eljay Johnsen 12-May-18 08:55 PM

Aye, I've tweaked the ini file a tad, which did work with the Alpha, however I fail to recall the exact steps to take onward.

scottgabe22 12-May-18 08:56 PM

still stuck on black screen for menu and gameplay.

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 08:58 PM

I downloaded the launcher again and I'm downloading the beta again and seeing if I just had a bad install

EnglishExpert 12-May-18 08:59 PM

Ugh, I'm still trying to get it to start...

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 08:59 PM

I'm in the same boat bro

EnglishExpert 12-May-18 09:00 PM

White, then black screen followed by crash to desktop?

scottgabe22 12-May-18 09:00 PM

im going to do a clean install.

JrMasterModelBuilder 12-May-18 09:03 PM

Black screen usually means you haven't used the patcher.

The game does not render without patching on most GFX cards.

EnglishExpert 12-May-18 09:03 PM

The website said the installer included all the updates.

JrMasterModelBuilder 12-May-18 09:03 PM

Also, svpRad does nothing in this build (edited)

G-Bond 12-May-18 09:04 PM

so i was palying the kene ra part in pohatus level and out of no where after i died due to bad controls it started flying and it causes the controls to go stiff

scottgabe22 12-May-18 09:05 PM

ok i'll check the installer again

ScrapMetaru 12-May-18 09:06 PM

Game refuses to be small enough for my tiny 1366x768 screen. (edited)

scottgabe22 12-May-18 09:09 PM

installer didn't fix the problem

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 09:12 PM

So @V A H K I T I it seems that the installer doesn't create version text files anymore for some reason

which doesn't allow me to proceed with game launches from within the launcher

The Shadow Emperor 12-May-18 09:15 PM

Onua's gears are fucked up again

I've reinstalled it twice btw

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 09:19 PM

So with the original beta version, I can't launch it at all. The screen turns black for a few seconds, and then I return to my desktop again and the instance of the game disappears

That was exactly what happened when I tried to launch the alpha as well

Deadgineer 12-May-18 10:00 PM

@Eljay Johnsen what resolution does your screen run at?

you will need to set the res according to your screen res in the ini file

once you do that, run the launcher and click the configure dgvoodoo2 button

make sure you have the right path selected

if the path is not there, you can add it using the add button, and then navigating to where the game exe is on your hard drive

once you do that, use these settings

for resolution, the drop down list should vary depending on your machine

Eljay Johnsen 12-May-18 10:08 PM

Welp, followed those to the letter, and nada.

Deadgineer 12-May-18 10:09 PM

i dont know what to tell you then

i guess for the next update, they should ass an easy resolution picker, since it seems getting the game into widescreen is a bit dodgy for some

Eljay Johnsen 12-May-18 10:10 PM

Ah, scratch that, got it!

I did miss one thing, thank you!

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 10:10 PM

Its not exactly that easy. :P

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-May-18 10:10 PM

^

The Shadow Emperor 12-May-18 10:11 PM

I can't edit bionicle.ini

Deadgineer 12-May-18 10:11 PM

@V A H K I T I eh, it might be possible to mkae it work somehow :P

@The Shadow Emperor run notepad as admin

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-May-18 10:11 PM

my boi. it would be a pain in the ass

The Shadow Emperor 12-May-18 10:11 PM

gotcha

Deadgineer 12-May-18 10:11 PM

@Hexadecimal Mantis at the very least, have a guide somewhere

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-May-18 10:11 PM

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 10:12 PM

I mean it would theoretically be possible to have a launcher menu copy paste screen res info to the ini and dgvoodoo configs. They're both just plain text files...

Deadgineer 12-May-18 10:12 PM

would be a pain in the ass to code tho, me thinks

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-May-18 10:12 PM

that would be easy, unlike editing the exe itself (edited)

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 10:12 PM

@Hexadecimal Mantis Would you maybe want to look into that if I sent you my Visual Studio files?

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-May-18 10:13 PM

eh maybe. Does it have a repo?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 10:13 PM

No because we had issues syncing

We can try again though

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 10:14 PM

Any updates on the exception error I keep getting?

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 10:14 PM

The main issues came from syncing cefharp

Uh

I'm not he yet

*home

SilverDeoxys563 12-May-18 10:15 PM

o

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 10:16 PM

I'll see about making a report when I get home

@Hexadecimal Mantis

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-May-18 10:16 PM

aight

I could always write a subprogram in C that edits the file

It would take around 10 seconds.

V A H K I T I 12-May-18 10:18 PM

But it would be a separate thing

It should be integrated

:p

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-May-18 10:18 PM

~~make the launcher run the program~~

Ezilo20 12-May-18 10:32 PM

@V A H K I T I i did, still happens

Kaylie Vinchenstein 12-May-18 10:45 PM

The mouse isn't working for me when I go into the front end menu

Deadgineer 12-May-18 10:46 PM

it does work

just invisible

INACTIVE ACCOUNT 12-May-18 10:47 PM

@Deadgineer Does it HAVE to be in Lego Media?

or can it be in somewhere else

Deadgineer 12-May-18 10:48 PM

i think it has to be in lego media

dont know for sure

also, offtopic, but 16:9 lego rock raiders is good shit

Kaylie Vinchenstein 12-May-18 10:49 PM

the mouse is invisible on the first screen but it appears on the file select screen after you press enter. Except this time it's stuck to the side of the screen.

Ezilo20 12-May-18 10:50 PM

when i launch the beta from the files, it boots up, white square on black background, ctd

@JrMasterModelBuilder whats the patcher and how do i use it

JrMasterModelBuilder 12-May-18 10:55 PM

@Ezilo20 "BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui Launcher Installer" here: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/the-legend-of-mata-nui/

JrMasterModelBuilder

The Legend of Mata Nui | BioMedia Project

Preserving BIONICLE media for past, current, and future BIONICLE fans.

Reckreational 12-May-18 11:04 PM

I got the part of Onua’s level where u have to use the Ruru but I never got it. Am I screwed?

The Shadow Emperor 12-May-18 11:05 PM

no. use debug mode to equip it

Reckreational 12-May-18 11:11 PM

How do I do that?

The Shadow Emperor 12-May-18 11:15 PM

pull up the debug menu with delete. the home key makes selections and page up/down scrolls. go to "masks" and then select the Ruru

scottgabe22 12-May-18 11:15 PM

got it working. so far only a few texture mistakes as noted by others. i'll come back here if i need any more help

The Shadow Emperor 12-May-18 11:16 PM

you can also enable Autohotkey Script in the launcher to make the debug menu less of a pain to navigate

Reckreational 12-May-18 11:22 PM

Ok thanks

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-May-18 12:43 AM

Discovered this technique yesterday (Forgot to mention it) It is possible to perform the forward jump in reverse if the inputs are timed correctly. Not sure if this is useful to speedruns in any way, but it's better than using the regular backwards jump,

Attachment: lomn_techskill.mp4 (4.43 MB)

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 12:43 AM

Mayro64 has logged in.

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-May-18 12:44 AM

it actually feels like it conserves momentum when firing the energy spheres mid reverse forward jump (edited)

CyclonatorZ 13-May-18 12:48 AM

So, I had my first crash. Was right after I got the Huna in Onua's level. I entered the next room, put the Huna on, and jumped onto the first platform. Error box came up immediately.

Kaylie Vinchenstein 13-May-18 01:24 AM

I had the same thing happen right after the fikou nui fight

Deleted User 13-May-18 01:26 AM

on an intel hd 3000 integrated graphics card in my brothers laptop, it crashes and gives an exception error, anyone know why?

weve reinstalled it twice still does it

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:36 AM

hey

im trying to run mata nui

on my windows 98 machine with voodoo 2\

i know the voodoo 2 can only do full screen, and 16 bit color

so i dont know what the fuck im doing wrong here

and the software rasterizaer doesnt work

so id love to have some help here

as apparently the game works with voodoo 2

but i aint having any luck

im using the alpha build

i cant run the launcher on windows 98

does anyone here have the patch files for the alpha, like in a zip or some shit?

@😺 QSKSw (Josie)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:46 AM

@V A H K I T I

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:46 AM

3dfx Voodoo 2 (largely untested, but reportedly some may work without any patching or alpha’s SvpRad option)

INACTIVE ACCOUNT 13-May-18 01:49 AM

Welp there goes that theory

Deadgineer 13-May-18 02:00 AM

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/otherfiles/TheLegendOfMataNui/

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/otherfiles/StaffFiles/Vahkiti/

Ezilo20 13-May-18 02:17 AM

i have the launcher reinstalled multiple times on the latest one, yet when i boot the game up from the launcher, it says its not installed, but when i go to the download location, its there, i boot it from the files, white screen, black screen with white square and then ctd

Orikume (Space Waifu) 13-May-18 02:45 AM

Does onua's level crash after beating Vatuka Nui for anybody else?

Or do i have to select each level individually still?

Trying to play straight through the game via the Kini menu

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-May-18 02:58 AM

im helping him right now

its fixed

Ezilo20 13-May-18 03:05 AM

starting a new game causes an unhandled exception

im about to have dinner so im gonna try and get help after

ESGDorney 13-May-18 05:39 AM

im stuck

where do I get Kanohi Ruru?

it doent help me anyway cause the Nui Jaga Mini Boss reset and now i cant do back tracking

EnglishExpert 13-May-18 05:45 AM

Can anyone help?

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 05:45 AM

Access violation

That is what c000005 means

and it is failing at a memory address too

EnglishExpert 13-May-18 05:45 AM

So run as admin?

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 05:45 AM

Try that

EnglishExpert 13-May-18 05:48 AM

I'm gonna redownload should I download the beta or the alpha?

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 05:48 AM

Beta

The beta is a lot more complete and is the final version of the game (supposedly)

omegalucas 13-May-18 05:53 AM

So, where do I have to put DGVoodoo? (edited)

I had it in the alpha folder before

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 05:55 AM

I just used the launcher and I didn't have to mess with anything. I didn't have to extract the dgVooDoo wrapper anywhere, but I have only just done a fresh install. So what i say may not apply to you at all (edited)

omegalucas 13-May-18 05:55 AM

The launcher has always been a bit finicky to my system

Galgo 13-May-18 06:09 AM

Do you guys know why character transitions don't seem to work besides for Gali and Pohatu and Lewa meets Kopaka?

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:21 AM

@omegalucas Put dgVooDoo in C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle (Beta)\ (I am using 64 bit windows) (edited)

omegalucas 13-May-18 06:23 AM

Still crashes the launcher

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:23 AM

You launch the game manually

omegalucas 13-May-18 06:28 AM

That's my foldee

folder

Can't configure it

I can launch the game through the launcher, I just can't configure DGVoodoo

Get that screen back please

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:29 AM

Are you making sure to point DGVoodoo to the config in that folder

?

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:29 AM

omegalucas 13-May-18 06:30 AM

Got it!

My launcher folder was missing Voodoo's executable

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:30 AM

Ye, to make it possible to have both the alpha and beta, I moved dgvoodoo to the launcher. This unfortunately means the configuration now has one more step.

Wait wat

How

What happened previously when you hit the dgvoodoo button in the launcher? The black screen? Or was that the game?

Galgo 13-May-18 06:32 AM

It's a shame the infected hau disappears before the particle animation finishes

have you guys thought of extending it?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:32 AM

Yeah, it's an issue tied to the framerate

omegalucas 13-May-18 06:32 AM

When I hit the config the launcher crashed

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:32 AM

Once JMMB finishes OSI editing, we're just gonna double the frames to compensate

omegalucas 13-May-18 06:32 AM

But I could play the game

At least front end I could

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:32 AM

Huh

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:33 AM

Also how do you go about making the game run in widescreen? Or does it break the game?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:33 AM

IDK how you ended up without DGVoodoo in the folder if you have the most up to date launcher. O_o

@mrpenguinb It breaks some of the menus, which is why it's disabled by default. If you want to do that, just edit your bionicle.ini and the dgvoodoo config.

It's not game breaking. it mainly just breaks things like the glossary and print menus. Boss health bard also don't show up.

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:34 AM

That is what I meant, and thank you!

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:34 AM

All the same, I felt it better to disable by default until further refinement can be made

No prob

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:38 AM

@Andrei Change the resolution fields to what you want and then configure dgVooDoo from the game launcher to be widescreen

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:39 AM

If you want to retain the HUD size, just set the INI to 852x480

An unintended side effect of the current upres patch is that the game's internal resolution will match the window size, regardless of what the INI is set to.

The INI in turn now just rescales the HUD elements and menus. This is why by default the window size in DGVoodoo is 1152x864, but the INI is still set to 640x480. (edited)

Galgo 13-May-18 06:40 AM

Why don't cinematics render?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:41 AM

Check the patch notes.

omegalucas 13-May-18 06:43 AM

How can I configure this to play on 1080p 4:3?

With black bars

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:44 AM

You.. you don't?

Galgo 13-May-18 06:44 AM

I thought text doesn't render in 4:3?

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:44 AM

In dgVoodoo make the resolution 1920x1080 if not already, I had to do nothing to get it render with blacks bars in 1080p

Galgo 13-May-18 06:44 AM

it actually does without patching on my 98 machine

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:46 AM

DirectX wrappers are so handy, it can literally make a game from 2002 or something pretty much instantly. It translates things so well

If you get a white screen in an old retail game, sometimes a wrapper can fix things (with incompatibilities) (edited)

Galgo 13-May-18 06:47 AM

Do you guys know why the cursor doesn't render on the initial front end screen?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:48 AM

No clue. It happened a lot early in development, but we were under the impression we fixed that.

Galgo 13-May-18 06:48 AM

also the launcher seems to crash with the alpha now

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:48 AM

?

Galgo 13-May-18 06:49 AM

** Exception Text ** System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not find file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle\version.txt'. File name: 'C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle\version.txt'

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:50 AM

Make a dummy .txt file called version

(edited)

Galgo 13-May-18 06:51 AM

worked

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:52 AM

Weird. THat shouldn't be missing in the first place

Remind me via PM around 3 my time and I'll push an update just in case

I'll fix it the same way I fixed the same problem with the beta

omegalucas 13-May-18 06:54 AM

When I do that in DGVoodoo it stretches @mrpenguinb

I had the same problem with version.txt

Fixed it by deleting the launcher folder and installing it from scratch

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:55 AM

You need to edit dgvoodoo and the ini

omegalucas 13-May-18 06:56 AM

Installing it again prompted an update to the beta which fixed that file

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:57 AM

Ay

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 06:57 AM

SvpOther=0 SvpRad=0 What are these fields for?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 06:58 AM

Wait

@mrpenguinb Currently? Nothing.

They used to fix some graphical issues, but one of our patches circumvents the function that they call since it was malfunctioning in the beta.

Andrei 13-May-18 06:59 AM

How do I edit DgVoodoo?

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 07:00 AM

Launcher

Andrei 13-May-18 07:00 AM

ty

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:00 AM

So, okay, changing the resolution to 1920x1080 changes the game to true wide-screen

In the INI

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:00 AM

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:01 AM

I'm gonna keep playing with the settings till I can get a 4:3 version of that resolution

Probably through windowed mode

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:01 AM

You're not going to... If you're asking for letterboxing, the game doesn't work that way

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 07:01 AM

The cursor in the menus only works when you get to the save file menu

(edited)

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:02 AM

Oh okay

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:02 AM

Sorry m8.

Andrei 13-May-18 07:02 AM

How do i go to that cheat menu?

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:02 AM

Np

Galgo 13-May-18 07:03 AM

widescreen breaks dialog boxes

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:04 AM

No it doesn't. it just removes the border.

If that wasn't an intended effect, it's a desirable one.

Unless you LIKE having literally half the screen blacked out.

1

Andrei 13-May-18 07:04 AM

Cheat menu?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:04 AM

What cheat menu?

Andrei 13-May-18 07:04 AM

I read something bout a cheat menu

Galgo 13-May-18 07:04 AM

delete key (edited)

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 07:05 AM

There are cheat menu settings in the .ini file

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:05 AM

Oh that

Yeah the debug menu is the delete key

I'm tired guys. It's 7am here

xP

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:05 AM

So, what else does widescreen break?

Galgo 13-May-18 07:05 AM

I think the cursor

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 07:05 AM

Just wait and see! How exciting.... not really (edited)

Galgo 13-May-18 07:05 AM

in the front end

but that's come and gone for me (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:06 AM

@omegalucas it literally only breaks the glossary, print menu, and boss health bars.

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 07:06 AM

It worked for me in the front end for a little bit, only initlaly did it work

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:06 AM

It generally just messes up menu element positions too, though they still work

Andrei 13-May-18 07:06 AM

What are the full controls for the game?

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:06 AM

Boss health bars would be the only problematic thing here

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:06 AM

Not really.

The alpha didn't have them at all

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 07:07 AM

Left Shift/Shift for Parakai and right click to jump. Left click to shoot or claw, WASD, L for glyphs, space for grapple (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:07 AM

AND

L control for elemental glyph (edited)

And space for grapple

You can also now activate masks with the click of the scroll wheel and cycle them with it.

Something the alpha sorely lacked

Andrei 13-May-18 07:08 AM

ty

justframbo 13-May-18 07:08 AM

@V A H K I T I sleep

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:08 AM

I have to go to driving school in an hour.

Andrei 13-May-18 07:09 AM

ihh

Galgo 13-May-18 07:09 AM

Andrei 13-May-18 07:09 AM

Good Luck

Galgo 13-May-18 07:09 AM

the weakspot isn't showing properly for me anymore

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:09 AM

O_o

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:09 AM

What control do I use for a toa physical attack?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:09 AM

And your lighting is fucked beyond belief

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:09 AM

Like the sword on Kopaka

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:09 AM

@omegalucas You just get close to an enemy

Onua's melee is kinda useless, but the others work fine (edited)

G-Bond 13-May-18 07:10 AM

Or run out of energy

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:11 AM

When I open the game, it changes to windowed mode if I click any key

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 07:12 AM

Really?

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:12 AM

I can alt+enter to get full-screen

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:12 AM

That's normal

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:12 AM

But that won't work if I have clicked the front-end

G-Bond 13-May-18 07:12 AM

Also have any of you seen how big the nui jaga is in the beta

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:12 AM

YEP

THAT MADE ME NEARLY SHIT MYSELF WHEN I FIRST SAW IT

G-Bond 13-May-18 07:12 AM

BIG BOI

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:12 AM

Cause it doesn't LOOK that big from afar.

But when it charges you, BOI YOU'D BETTER WTACH THE FUCK OUT

G-Bond 13-May-18 07:13 AM

Till it gets close

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:13 AM

I ACTUALLY screamed.

G-Bond 13-May-18 07:13 AM

I wonder what how big the terakava is

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:13 AM

It feels so weird to be talking about this in past tense.

Cause like... we've had this for a month. For you guys this is all new and exciting. For me it's just Tuesday. xP

Galgo 13-May-18 07:14 AM

every single time I beat the earth elemental the cutscene where onua beats gali doesn't render

instead I fall off the map

G-Bond 13-May-18 07:14 AM

Scorpian king indeed

Galgo 13-May-18 07:14 AM

on all hardware, sad

G-Bond 13-May-18 07:15 AM

Beats Gali..... (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:16 AM

Are you playing from the frontend menu instead of the default enabled test menu?

G-Bond 13-May-18 07:16 AM

That's brutal

Galgo 13-May-18 07:16 AM

@V A H K I T I yeah, is that it?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:17 AM

Yes. It was enabled for a reason.

Galgo 13-May-18 07:21 AM

it just crashed the game

Andrei 13-May-18 07:21 AM

Controls for debug menu?

Galgo 13-May-18 07:21 AM

is there a video of it somewhere?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:22 AM

Of what? THe cutscene?

Galgo 13-May-18 07:22 AM

PgUp goes up

@V A H K I T I yeah

PgDn goes down

Home selects

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:22 AM

It'll play back normally if you load Gali's level from the test menu and warp to MTUP (edited)

Galgo 13-May-18 07:22 AM

Or del

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:22 AM

It will crash when it finishes though

Andrei 13-May-18 07:23 AM

gtg bye

Galgo 13-May-18 07:23 AM

Wow that was cool

justframbo 13-May-18 07:36 AM

why am i playing in the menu

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:37 AM

It happens sometimes when you quit.

It's completely random

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:38 AM

well the beta version as the dark glitch but svp is not even enable and i can launch the game via the launcher cause the version.txt is missing . can sombody help me?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:38 AM

Update the launcher manually.

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:38 AM

how ?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:39 AM

http://bit.ly/LegendNoLonger

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:39 AM

i already have the last one

so just reinstall

?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:39 AM

Ye

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:39 AM

ok i will try

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:39 AM

I beefed some code on the first launch that screwed up the auto-update code.

Galgo 13-May-18 07:40 AM

where's the tablet in Ga-Koro?

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:40 AM

still the same error

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 07:41 AM

@Galgo The one you need the Rau for?

Galgo 13-May-18 07:41 AM

yes

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:41 AM

and evrything is still black (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 07:41 AM

On top of the mask waterfall.

Right behind the horns (edited)

Galgo 13-May-18 07:41 AM

I've never been in there

not even in the alpha

How do you get in?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 07:43 AM

You go to the right of the waterfall into a cave (which is locked by tokens at first) and do a platforming section that brings you to the top.

Galgo 13-May-18 07:43 AM

how many tokens do I need to collect?

the only tokens I've sen were in that annoying water slide

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 07:43 AM

Honestly, I haven't figured that out yet. I'll try testing that now, but I do remember it opening for me.

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:44 AM

well now it ask to download a patch i gess it will fix it

thanks for the help

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:44 AM

Galgo 13-May-18 07:45 AM

anyone know where alpha save files are kept?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:45 AM

Same place as the beta ones? Why?

It's just in the Data directory

Galgo 13-May-18 07:45 AM

must not have saved for me then

that makes sense, I probably didn't trigger an autosave when I warped

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:46 AM

If you're loading from the test menu, this version unfortunately lacks a load button

It DOES save, but they removed the button for some reason

Otherwise, yeah, the game only autosaves if you go through a door.

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:48 AM

if the last save is borken/glitch ,is there a way to acess the previous save or is there only one save at the time?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:49 AM

There's only one save per file. If you want to back out of a softlocked save, you can hex edit it to change the area you're currently loaded into.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/434824552875425796/436251326586814464/unknown.png

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:50 AM

oh ok

thx

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:50 AM

@V A H K I T I any chance you can change the launcher so that it doesn't close when you start the game?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:51 AM

I don't really see a point to that.

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:51 AM

Config testing

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:51 AM

Is it really that time consuming to click one more button?

omegalucas 13-May-18 07:52 AM

If I want to play around with DGVoodoo settings I have to keep having to open the launcher

Would be fine if it didn't require admin permission

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:52 AM

Just set the admin permission in the properties if it needs it, but it shouldn't with the manifest generated

Galgo 13-May-18 07:54 AM

What does no green capes do?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:54 AM

Enables the debug menu

Galgo 13-May-18 07:54 AM

what were the other cheats?

like the pissing and stuff?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:54 AM

Urinate=Pohatu (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 07:55 AM

@Galgo Okay, this is just weird. After multiple tries, I can't seem to get the door to open. I've tried giving myself tokens, leaving the area and coming back, etc. and nothing will make it open. I honestly have no clue how it opened the first time. (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:55 AM

Did you talk to Nokama?

And then try with tokens?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 07:55 AM

Yes

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 07:55 AM

.-.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 07:55 AM

I do this stuff in order

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 07:56 AM

Any reason why the game crashes more frequently on Windows 10 (win 7 works fine for me)?

It just seems like the game or DirectX might be causing the issue (edited)

Galgo 13-May-18 07:58 AM

Windows 10 doesn't play nice with tons of old games

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:59 AM

is this an normal issue that i don't see the cursor in front end meu?

Galgo 13-May-18 07:59 AM

yes

darkeluim 13-May-18 07:59 AM

only see it in play game menu

but lnow the alpha is getting this error ( version.txt not there)

via the launche of course

Galgo 13-May-18 08:01 AM

make a dummy file

darkeluim 13-May-18 08:01 AM

sure about that?

Galgo 13-May-18 08:01 AM

works on my machine

darkeluim 13-May-18 08:02 AM

ok thx

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:02 AM

I hope you can fix the Nui Jaga respawn glitch

justframbo 13-May-18 08:03 AM

how do you exit the inventory menu?

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:03 AM

@justframbo ...with restarting

justframbo 13-May-18 08:03 AM

damn..

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:03 AM

i know

Galgo 13-May-18 08:03 AM

works for me sometimes though?

maybe it's broken outside the front end

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 08:04 AM

Wat @ESGDorney no

YOu literally just press escape.

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:04 AM

i tried... didnt work

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 08:04 AM

Also what respawn glitch? O_o

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:05 AM

when you defeat Nui Jaga and enter next room and go back the barrier is closed again

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 08:05 AM

I mean... that MIGHT be a bug but it might not be at the same time.

Cause you can backtrack for side quests simply by using the portal at the shrine (edited)

D3vilous 13-May-18 08:05 AM

I opened an invetory and nothing happened just a text showed up and my game freezed. I coundn't get back in game and had to restart.

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:06 AM

the problem is if you dont have Kanohi Ruru and want to back track you cant cause there is the barrier

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 08:06 AM

Hm

That is a good point.

Likely then that the room isn't set up with save flags

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:06 AM

and the game saves it

BioMaster(André) 13-May-18 08:07 AM

just cheat menu your way

problem solved

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:07 AM

idk how

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 08:07 AM

True, but that IS a problem

ESGDorney 13-May-18 08:07 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL51t16lJjQ here is the perfect example from a stream

makugan Ω

expect some crashes cuz it's very buggy

GPU: GeForce GTX 970 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz Memory: 8 GB RAM (7.96 GB RAM usable) Current resolution: 1920 x 1080, 60Hz Operating syste...

at the end of the video

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 08:09 AM

@Galgo Figured it out. You need to collect the Rau before the door will open.

Galgo 13-May-18 08:16 AM

does the game actually control worse than the alpha, or is it just me

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 08:17 AM

Specifically, you need the Rau and at least 2 tokens (edited)

BioMaster(André) 13-May-18 08:19 AM

I think the inconsistent framerate is what causes it to control worse

omegalucas 13-May-18 08:20 AM

So, the white gears on Onua. Is that a common bug?

darkeluim 13-May-18 08:20 AM

welll i fell it control the same

i think i have the bug too

Galgo 13-May-18 08:29 AM

the horns make me unable to move

justframbo 13-May-18 08:41 AM

i just spawned outside of the skybox after batttling the great mighty poo

Galgo 13-May-18 08:41 AM

they lock me into place

You're playing through the front end

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 08:41 AM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412066953167896587/445203752811626496/unknown.png

Galgo 13-May-18 08:41 AM

play through the debug menu

justframbo 13-May-18 08:41 AM

oh

how

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 08:42 AM

Try reloading the area, @Galgo . That happened to me at first too.

Galgo 13-May-18 08:42 AM

if that fails to trip the cutscene, then warping to the first location in Gali's debug menu will fix that

warp to "MTUP"

probably stands for meetup

justframbo 13-May-18 08:43 AM

how do i open debug

del isnt it

Galgo 13-May-18 08:43 AM

Click delete

it's delete

justframbo 13-May-18 08:43 AM

ok

Galgo 13-May-18 08:43 AM

First you have to enable it in your .ini

so head to C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle (Beta)

or wherever you installed it

open bionicle.ini

justframbo 13-May-18 08:44 AM

mhmh

Galgo 13-May-18 08:44 AM

and under [Misc] add CheatMenu=LEGOTester

justframbo 13-May-18 08:44 AM

ok

it's already there

Galgo 13-May-18 08:45 AM

Is [Cheat] there?

justframbo 13-May-18 08:45 AM

yes

Galgo 13-May-18 08:45 AM

Cheat=NoGreenCapes?

justframbo 13-May-18 08:45 AM

yes

Galgo 13-May-18 08:45 AM

Try it again then?

it only works in-game

justframbo 13-May-18 08:46 AM

hm

ok now i've opened it from the launcher

let's see how this goes

Galgo 13-May-18 08:57 AM

onewa keeps crashing the game

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 08:58 AM

That's a known Windows 10 issue. (edited)

Galgo 13-May-18 08:58 AM

I'll try it in 7

mrpenguinb 13-May-18 09:04 AM

My game crashed in win 7 with an access violation error

But it does happen less frequently i reckon

Compared to win 10. Just try to not alt tab or change/switch windows while playing

darkeluim 13-May-18 09:10 AM

whell i think i got the inventory bug to at some point i can exit but beforre like in the begining i could

OCG 13-May-18 09:34 AM

Hello

Before beta was released, alpha worked fine for me

now with newest updates, alpha no longer works

gives white screen and exits

Does anyone have solution?

justframbo 13-May-18 09:49 AM

ga koro sure likes to crash...

OCG 13-May-18 09:49 AM

I can't even access game

launching it from launcher crashes alpha

ever since update

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 09:49 AM

Really? Odd, that doesn't happen for me.

OCG 13-May-18 09:50 AM

Do you use custom launcher or just got ISO?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 09:50 AM

I use the Launcher.

OCG 13-May-18 09:54 AM

For me, when I donwloaded alpha from new launcher it first gave error

that version.txt is missing

and attempts to launch it from directory fail

justframbo 13-May-18 10:29 AM

playing the kane-ra run

and it's all floaty

like we're on the moon

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 10:29 AM

Did you die in water? Becuase that screws up the physics

justframbo 13-May-18 10:30 AM

oh bugger...

yep

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 10:30 AM

Mhm.

Found that one a whie ago, and I haven't beaten the Kane-Ra section thanks to it.

CyclonatorZ 13-May-18 10:42 AM

Happened again. This time I didn't even switch my mask. I also forgot that the crash happens before you even land on the platform. I don't understand how that's possible. Regardless, I can't progress any further in the Onua level.

justframbo 13-May-18 10:47 AM

huh... i've never got that

darkeluim 13-May-18 11:06 AM

i got that

well what i did i used the mask of invisbility

till the end of the llevel and it went fine

CyclonatorZ 13-May-18 11:11 AM

How do you activate mask powers again? I'm starting to think that's the issue - I have to activate the huna in order to cross. The kill condition if you don't use it must be broken.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 11:11 AM

Shift.

darkeluim 13-May-18 11:12 AM

shift

CyclonatorZ 13-May-18 11:17 AM

Well, shit, it doesn't matter anyway, cause I accidentally went back into the fikou nui room, and now the level is unbeatable. The fikou nui has respawned, as well as the web and the door that prevent you from passing, so now I can't even attack the boss to allow me entry into the next room again. (edited)

That's definitely something the beaverhouse is going to have to look into patching, methinks.

Gummistiefel 13-May-18 11:23 AM

When you go in the next room after beating the Earth Golem you are ported in a random place and start falling

Lehvak Nuva 13-May-18 11:24 AM

Hello! When I trying to use horns in top of Kaukau mask waterfall in Gali level, any movement controls are blocked. I can only change mask and use horn again (same time shooting grappling hook). Has anyone encountered this problem?

justframbo 13-May-18 11:30 AM

oh i got that! @Gummistiefel try going into the debug menu at gali's level and skipping to 'meetup'

YaBoiDriftKing 13-May-18 11:32 AM

Is there a particular reason Onua is missing the textures on his gears?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 11:39 AM

@Lehvak Nuva Yes. It seems to be a common issue.

I've gotten them to work, but not consistently.

iConiCdays 13-May-18 11:59 AM

How do you talk to people in this game?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 12:04 PM

Press space.

rubinho146 13-May-18 12:20 PM

Game shows all black

Only Hud is what I can see

Even on main menu everything is black

And I'm with the Bionicle Launcher

darkeluim 13-May-18 12:35 PM

did you download last bionicle launcher vers and last patch? (edited)

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 12:58 PM

So whenever I try to launch the beta from the launcher, this is what happens every single time http://puu.sh/AltoG.png

rubinho146 13-May-18 12:59 PM

Yes, I did @darkeluim

I'm on Win 7

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:00 PM

well that's strange

maybe in te option files set svp option to 0?

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:02 PM

It's already set to 0, and looking through chat history, those options don't do anything anymore

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:03 PM

ok

so try dowload manually latch patch and apply it

or reinstall all from scrapp

@rubinho146

and @SilverDeoxys563

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:04 PM

I already did both yesterday, and I still get the same thing

rubinho146 13-May-18 01:04 PM

Already did it, m8

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:04 PM

oof

mmh

maybe try something with compability settings

on the game exe

not the launcher

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:05 PM

I wouldn't think the latest version of beta would need compatibility

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:05 PM

well we never know (edited)

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:05 PM

Basically, what happens is white screen, error box, and I can hear some music playing in the background

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:06 PM

never had that error

maybe waiting next patch...

rubinho146 13-May-18 01:07 PM

Alright, we wait

But damn I want to play it

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:07 PM

well you can still ask somebody else (edited)

rubinho146 13-May-18 01:07 PM

I remember receiving the CD from a soda brand

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:07 PM

maybe they can help you

rubinho146 13-May-18 01:08 PM

For promotion

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:08 PM

well you're lucky

never had that chance XD (edited)

rubinho146 13-May-18 01:08 PM

It had some side scrolling platforms ahahha

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:08 PM

lol

it s the game i wished too play for so long knowing there were not mutch offical bionicle games realeased

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:09 PM

http://puu.sh/AltSG.png

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:09 PM

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) did anyone ever come around to helping me with that bug or whats it with my game, and how i needed those patch files?

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:10 PM

@V A H K I T I good day, I bring more detailed logging of the exception error! (edited)

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:11 PM

well still a pain in the ass (edited)

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:12 PM

@SilverDeoxys563 i think you might wanna be asking @Team Litestone as vahkiti isnt really that much of a tech guy

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:13 PM

or post it on github so that it won"t be forgotten

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:13 PM

assuming you know how to use github, that is

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:13 PM

well it"s very easy

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:13 PM

I have no idea what github is

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:13 PM

oh deat

dear*

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:14 PM

oof

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:14 PM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues send ya bug reports here

TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

game-issues - The Legend of Mata Nui Gameplay Issues

darkeluim 13-May-18 01:14 PM

yep

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:16 PM

@Deadgineer We're livestreaming today at 4 PM so I happen to know Liam will be awake by then and I can ask him if it's been looked at, but if it hasn't been dealt with I'm afraid we might not be able to get to it today either. Hate to be a disappointm-- Oh hey!

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:16 PM

Hold on from doing that.

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:16 PM

Hey bud!

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:16 PM

I'm not sure if we're set up for beta bug submissions yet

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:16 PM

live streaming, huh?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:17 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:17 PM

let me know for that shit, asap

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:17 PM

Wanna set that up?

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:17 PM

i wanna be in there

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:17 PM

3 hours from now.m8

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:17 PM

so 3pm in my time

nice

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:17 PM

@Deadgineer Prior to three months ago, we were a Youtube Let's Play channel.

(edited)

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:17 PM

@V A H K I T I did you update the announcements?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:17 PM

Not home for another hour

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:17 PM

ah

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:18 PM

@Deadgineer The livestream link will be posted in #new-vids-and-streams when it's up.

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:18 PM

gotcha

twitch or yt?

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-May-18 01:18 PM

Wait, what?

Teylgate 13-May-18 01:18 PM

How long till the stream?

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:18 PM

we just said, lol

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:18 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder asking if the github is set up for beta bug reports yet

Teylgate 13-May-18 01:18 PM

Ohh

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:18 PM

@Deadgineer We do both, I'll grab the links for you to Subscribe/Follow. :3

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-May-18 01:19 PM

Yeah, you can just submit bugs to the current tracker.

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:19 PM

thank you :)

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-May-18 01:19 PM

Mentioning which version you are playing.

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:19 PM

Ok I'll do that

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:19 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder how do we distinguish between from alpha bugs? Tags?

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:19 PM

Any estimated turnaround time?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:19 PM

Not everyone is gonna mention thay

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-May-18 01:19 PM

There are tags.

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 01:19 PM

Only we can add tags

There should be a distinct tracker

Otherwise it's gonna turn into a huge mess really quickly

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:20 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder while you're here, do you know anything about this? I get this when trying to launch the Beta and it crashes when I close the exception box http://puu.sh/AltoG.png

I literally can't play the game at all ;~;

JrMasterModelBuilder 13-May-18 01:21 PM

Are you using the patches?

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:21 PM

Yes

Without a patch, the game gives me a black screen and promptly disappears and crashes

rubinho146 13-May-18 01:23 PM

I'll try using a virtual machine to play it

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:26 PM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/125 i wish you guys luck with solving my issue XD

Cannot Play The Alpha On My Windows 98 Machine · Issue #125 · Th...

Essentially what is going on, is that I would love to run the game on a PC of the time, with: Pentium 2 MMX 300MHz 128MB Ram ATI Mach 64VT 2D Video Card 3DFX Voodoo 2 Card With 12MB VRAM Windows 98...

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:31 PM

Should I include my Windows 10 PC's specs in the bug report

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:34 PM

i guess

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) we are dumb asses

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/Patch/

jrmaster builder found it

is was right in our fucking faces

ugh

@JrMasterModelBuilder but wait, which exe is for the alpha version?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:37 PM

You could put something right in front of my fucking face and no matter how obvious you make it I'm more likely to miss it than to do the good

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:37 PM

dont feel bad

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:38 PM

SAME

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:38 PM

i didnt notice it until he pointed it out on the github

he was like, "umm, its right here, dumbass"

okay

maybe not EXACTLY like that

MasterControlUser 13-May-18 01:38 PM

I was wondering where this was

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:38 PM

but thats what it felt like for me, lol

MasterControlUser 13-May-18 01:39 PM

I almost sideloaded winxp on a virtualbox just to do it

But I should probs do that anyway I have a few other games that just don't run on win10

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:39 PM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/126

Beta crashes and throws an exception in front of white screen with...

On Windows 10, whenever I try to launch the beta with the patch applied, I get a white window that plays music, my cursor turns invisible, and almost immediately after the window appears, the excep...

Yep, there's this

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:40 PM

looks like this is for the alpha

just what i needed

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:40 PM

I don't feel bad this time, I'm not making a value judgement on myself, just stating a fact, I am just oblivious as shit.

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:41 PM

i honestly didnt know the patches were on BMP

i thought they were on some ftp or some shit

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:41 PM

I knew they were somewhere but couldn't find them because I'm a dumb shit.

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:41 PM

so am i it seems, as it took a fucking dev to find them for us

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:42 PM

We all have our moments. We're only human. Thanks @JrMasterModelBuilder!

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 01:43 PM

But wait, does it work

Deadgineer 13-May-18 01:43 PM

now if this patch doesnt work, the dev team is gonna be having fun trying to help me out (edited)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 13-May-18 01:45 PM

lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 02:03 PM

The grappling hook is hot garbage in the beta

Gali's HK01 is literally impossible as far as I can tell

Deadgineer 13-May-18 02:04 PM

dont blame us for that

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 02:04 PM

I'm not

I'm just saying

It wasn't that bad in the alpha

What did Saffire mess up

Deadgineer 13-May-18 02:05 PM

idk, but it MIGHT be possible for the team to fix up

dunno yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 02:05 PM

That's why I was posting this here.

emily (peri) 13-May-18 02:14 PM

are you running dgvoodoo? if not the game runs at a ridiculous framerate that totally breaks the grapple

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 02:14 PM

I'm not sure

How do I check

Deadgineer 13-May-18 02:15 PM

@emily (peri) speaking of frame rates, i have read that one should lock thier framerate to 30fps, since certain things are timed to 30fps

emily (peri) 13-May-18 02:15 PM

ideally, yeah

Deadgineer 13-May-18 02:15 PM

can probs use msi afterburner or something like that to limit the fps

emily (peri) 13-May-18 02:16 PM

@robot5431 do the power/token icons on your hud spin wildly out of control? they're also tied to the framerate

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 02:16 PM

No. They seem normal.

emily (peri) 13-May-18 02:17 PM

ok, guess your problem is something else then

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 02:17 PM

Does the grapple work fine for anyone? Cuz this might just be me as far as I know

Deadgineer 13-May-18 02:18 PM

seems to work fine for everyone else

so idk

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 02:18 PM

Okay. Then I'm just the weird one.

SilverDeoxys563 13-May-18 02:21 PM

I'm just the weird one who can't even launch the game :( (edited)

omegalucas 13-May-18 03:14 PM

So, how can I swim underwater without jumping from higher ground?

I swam from the village back to the cave in Ga Koro and can't return

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-18 03:15 PM

press w twice

while treading water

Dragon Label 13-May-18 05:14 PM

you probably know this already but gears on toa lack textures at times

besides, noticed now while taking this screenshot

when you pause the game and switch to another window, it continues running normally only with pause menu buttons

Dragon Label 13-May-18 05:37 PM

one more thing: onua doesn't even require kaukau to breathe under water lel

he justs walks on the bottom with slower pace

UTTER_BODGE 13-May-18 06:16 PM

all toa but gali and tahu do that

tahu instantly dies when he touches water, since all "water" in his level is lava

Dragon Label 13-May-18 06:34 PM

makes sense

Freerey 13-May-18 07:24 PM

Has anyone else had problems with the game crashing at that part where the mountain is falling apart with Onua?

kabulent 13-May-18 07:40 PM

kinda, only happened once for me tho, it happened when i fell off the mountain after a few times

Freerey 13-May-18 07:42 PM

happened again

it seems to happen if I backpedal after one of the pieces breaks off

btw...the Matoran at the front of Ko-wahi doesn't have a mask

lmao the skating area with Kopaka leads me to falling into nothingness immediately after...followed by a crash

can't pick it up

Attachment: 2018-05-13_19-44-36.mp4 (4.34 MB)

Yue 13-May-18 07:57 PM

I can't get the game to launch, I get the ofllowing error:

Freerey 13-May-18 08:03 PM

I've never seen that one

Yue 13-May-18 08:03 PM

:<

Yue 13-May-18 08:10 PM

What do I do?

benji 13-May-18 08:33 PM

Start by including the 'Details' section in your screenshot?

Yue 13-May-18 08:33 PM

Oh sorry, moment.

https://pastebin.com/3kgNPWeH

See the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time...

benji 13-May-18 08:35 PM

Then spam @V A H K I T I to fix his launcher

Yue 13-May-18 08:35 PM

@V A H K I T I Fix your launcher pls

Like that?

benji 13-May-18 08:36 PM

Now we wait

Yue 13-May-18 08:36 PM

Okay.

benji 13-May-18 08:41 PM

(I'm a tad salty because he had me and another dev work on it, then ended up dropping our work for his own cobbled hacks, which I don't have a problem with, but then he went around saying that he wrote the launcher when me and the other dev couldn't get it right, when really he couldn't figure out source control and some other basic stuff, which is what has me salty, and then his launcher fell apart around him on launch day, which is sweet karma

)

2

Yue 13-May-18 08:42 PM

I'm sorry.

That sounds like a rude thing to do to someone, which I'm sure is something I'll regret saying when he shows up and sees this.

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-May-18 08:43 PM

I feel bad for you (edited)

His launcher is clunky af

benji 13-May-18 08:44 PM

Yeah, but sometimes I speak a bit too harshly too so it's no big deal, I'm just enjoying sitting way over here watching how he approaches debugging everything himself

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-May-18 08:45 PM

I started writing a replacement/alternative in C with libcurl. Its called LegendNoLauncher. It downloads the patches and the version.txt and checks to see if an update is available (edited)

It will also be open source, unlike the current thing

UTTER_BODGE 13-May-18 09:10 PM

watching, giggling, then putting your head down and working on shit is the only way to approach this project ;P

liquidelectricity 13-May-18 09:18 PM

Is there a solution to running the beta without using dgvoodu? I always disabled it with the alpha and it worked fine. However when I go to run the beta the game loads without graphics (black screen with menu options). Solution?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:38 PM

@benji Boi, it took you guys two weeks and Snowcone just gave up on it because neither of you could get cefsharp to properly sync with the repository. xP

I fell back on my own code from the previous attempt at my own and built on that as best I could. it's crude, but it works. I know what the problem is, I just have to push an update, but we had plans today.

And @Hexadecimal Mantis Y u do? xD

benji 13-May-18 09:40 PM

Nah boi, you couldn't figure out how to clone my git repo

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:40 PM

I cloned your repo and none of your code would compile on my system.

I tried asking for assistance as to why that was and either you couldn't figure it out, or just never responded. So I couldn't contribute and handed the project off to you guys as a result.

Then Snowcone gave up after two weeks, you started working on other things, so I just said fuck it.

benji 13-May-18 09:42 PM

I'm still convinced it was a NuGet restore thing, but like I said, I don't care that you dropped the code

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:43 PM

Well either way, I'm open to @Hexadecimal Mantis doing another version as long as he stops being so heccin salty about it. XD

That Legend No Launcher joke really grinds my gears.

I try god dammit. xP

benji 13-May-18 09:44 PM

And I'm still down to work on it provided you actually start using source control

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:44 PM

I was! It was around when Snowcone started to give up. The reason he gave up was because the problem inverted itself.

His code would compile on my system, (albeit with other unrelated issues ) but he couldn't get cefsharp to compile

benji 13-May-18 09:45 PM

Where's the Git repo that's up to date?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:46 PM

I have no idea anymore. It was either on his or yours. I don't remember having ever made one myself.

benji 13-May-18 09:46 PM

That's my point

Galgo 13-May-18 09:46 PM

Just out of curiosity, have any of the saffire guys or LEGO responded to the video?

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:46 PM

I can go ahead and do that as I intended to get Hex in to help with a resolution dropdown, but if you guys want me to contribute, we need to make sure we can all compile the code, and that we can all understand each other's changes.

benji 13-May-18 09:47 PM

As soon as you start making source control part of your workflow, I and others will have the capability to help

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-May-18 09:47 PM

^

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:47 PM

The main reason I went back to my own clunky code was because I couldn't make heads or tails of you two's stuff. I'm just a novice remember. THat's not your problem of course, but ya could have at least put some comments in there.

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:48 PM

guys what is wrong with the game i get to this screen

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:48 PM

I even put comments in my own stuff just so I remember what does what.

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:48 PM

one sec

benji 13-May-18 09:48 PM

And I'd love to, I thought I put some in, but there's no point if you insist on sending code in .zips via discord

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:49 PM

I didn't want to do that but again, the compiling issues were unresolvable at the time

benji 13-May-18 09:49 PM

The compiling issues have nothing to do with using Git

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:49 PM

everytime i click the play game it says no game found and downloads it ive downloaded it over 2 times and it stilll doesnt let me play

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:49 PM

I wouldn't have just handed it off to you two if I could have gotten it working, and I doubt Snowcone would have given up in the same situation

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:49 PM

can someone help

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:50 PM

When you run the installer, are you installing the game to the same place as the launcher?

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:50 PM

how can i check

Yue 13-May-18 09:50 PM

Hey Vahkiti since you're here can you help me too when that guy's done?

Sorry.

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:51 PM

thanks for waiing

sorry

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:51 PM

Guys, I just got done with a 5 hour stream, I need a break. x_x

Yue 13-May-18 09:51 PM

Oh. Sorry!

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:51 PM

ok

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:52 PM

When you install the game it should be asking you where you want to install it. If it's not the same folder as you've put the launcher, then it won't run properly

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:52 PM

ill try reinstalling the launcher

Yue 13-May-18 09:53 PM

Like that, right?

ScrapMetaru 13-May-18 09:54 PM

Is a resolution dropdown what I think it is?

If it is, that'll be great! Just what I need.

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:55 PM

@Yue Ye

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:55 PM

doing this now

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:55 PM

@ScrapMetaru It is indeed

@Benderman115 Is the launcher still running?

Benderman115 13-May-18 09:56 PM

sorry i can wait just dm me when you are ready

Yue 13-May-18 09:56 PM

Same

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:56 PM

No it's okay. Let's just get it out of the way. There will be time to relax later.

Yue 13-May-18 09:56 PM

Okay.

When I start the game I get this error

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:56 PM

My code, my responsibility after all

Yue 13-May-18 09:56 PM

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:57 PM

When did you last update the launcher?

Yue 13-May-18 09:57 PM

https://pastebin.com/3kgNPWeH This is the error details

See the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time...

Uh

today

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:57 PM

You downloaded it manually, or got the auto-update after the beta came out?

Yue 13-May-18 09:57 PM

How would I tell if I got the auto-update?

Oh derp misread

I downloaded it manually

sorry.

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 09:58 PM

Hm. Okay. For the time being, just create a dummy versionbeta.txt in the LEGO Bionicle (Beta ) folder

That should solve the issue until I get the real problem sorted for good

Cause the problem is that for some reason it's either not including or not properly checking the version file to cross reference with that on the server to check for patch updates

Yue 13-May-18 10:00 PM

Yay! It's installing a patch!

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:00 PM

In my rush to update it, I probably beefed something else, cause it worked fine for the alpha alone

Ayy

Yue 13-May-18 10:00 PM

Well

Benderman115 13-May-18 10:00 PM

you ready ?

Yue 13-May-18 10:00 PM

it certainly tried to launch!

It got as far as fucking with my resolution, then crashed.

The Cool(er) Chronicle 13-May-18 10:01 PM

Oof

Yue 13-May-18 10:01 PM

lol now it can't find PatchB.exe

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:02 PM

Yeah, it sounds like you still have the old auto update of the launcher from yesterday afternoon, cause I DEFINITELY fixed that issue.

Yue 13-May-18 10:02 PM

Moment, uninstalling

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:02 PM

No need to do that

Just redownload the installer from the server

Actually

Yue 13-May-18 10:02 PM

Okay

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:02 PM

hold on

Attachment: BIONICLE_The_Legend_of_Mata_Nui_Launcher.exe (1.24 MB)

Hotfix

Just replace the EXE with that

THough renaming it back to spaces might be in order

Discord adds those

I really should't be having spaces in files names like this actually...

I'll fix that next update too

Yue 13-May-18 10:04 PM

That program won't run at all.

I click on it and nothing happens.

The Cool(er) Chronicle 13-May-18 10:05 PM

finished playing what i could with the beta, it's pretty fun. Though the vatuka nui had a white square on its chest whenever I had the chance to attack it. Is it an error from using full screen? (edited)

Yue 13-May-18 10:06 PM

Sorry. Forget it.

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:06 PM

@The Cool(er) Chronicle I'm told it's an old file we accidentally kept in the patch that had some broken textures.

The Cool(er) Chronicle 13-May-18 10:07 PM

oh ok

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:07 PM

I was gonna @ mention Yue to try and help further, but apparently they already left. .-.

The Cool(er) Chronicle 13-May-18 10:07 PM

i hope yue managed to get it working basing off their last reply.

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:09 PM

Ye.

@Benderman115 You still around?

Benderman115 13-May-18 10:12 PM

yes

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:13 PM

So did you make sure the launcher wasn't running before starting the installer?

Benderman115 13-May-18 10:13 PM

na ill try now

beta and reg game still not found

i made sure to install them in same place again

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:17 PM

I'm not sure what to suggest honestly.. Tell ya what. PM me your system details, the process which you installed everything and the locations, and I'll look into it first thing tomorrow. There's probably something I'm overlooking out of sheer tiredness right now.

Benderman115 13-May-18 10:18 PM

yeah no prob

tanks again for helping

it might be my graphics card its integrated into my pc

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:19 PM

I doubt it. It's a launcher issue and the error is a filesystem one. So it's either something I did, or something it doesn't like about your install paths.

Benderman115 13-May-18 10:19 PM

ah

we can deal with it tomorrow ill prob be on around at this time

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:20 PM

Sounds good

Benderman115 13-May-18 10:20 PM

i got to go to work after school so i be home 6 i think westen time (im in il )

Bitl 13-May-18 10:21 PM

the launcher does not create a version.txt file when you install it so if you try to launch the alpha using a fresh install it will cause an error

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:21 PM

Ye. That was a mistake on my part I still need to patch. I just want to get it all done at once at this point.

V A H K I T I 13-May-18 10:40 PM

Tbh I'm just tired and also in kind of a depressed mood. I've been up since 6am again, I just got done with a 5 hour stream, and I come back to not just the expected issues, (which are fine btw, just saying) but also my team just bashing on the launcher. Like.. I get it, my code's shitty and clunky, and far from perfect, but I tried goddammit. I'm only one person, and I can only do so much in so little time with the knowledge I currently have. I'm proud of that damn thing, and as far as I know, it makes most people happy to have an all in one solution. But apparently it's just not good enough. Bah..

I'm gonna go get something to eat and get some sleep. It's been a long weekend. (edited)

Eljay Johnsen 13-May-18 10:42 PM

Rest up and feel better man, you've done a ton of fantastic work and deserve a break. Game won't be going anywhere.

The Cool(er) Chronicle 13-May-18 10:43 PM

honestly after all the work pulled off just to not only get the alpha but also the beta, you deserve praise and some good rest.

Benderman115 13-May-18 11:16 PM

hope you feel better man we all have those days @V A H K I T I

SMA3SMW2YI 14-May-18 03:29 AM

okay so I already ran into a problem

whenever i try booting the game (beta, haven't downloaded the alpha yet), i get this error

Deadgineer 14-May-18 03:40 AM

Damn, these address errors seem to be quite common

benji 14-May-18 03:49 AM

That's showing you the address of the error, not what kind of error.

SMA3SMW2YI 14-May-18 03:53 AM

that's the only real information it gives me.

other than that, the game window stays blank and plays music

Deadgineer 14-May-18 04:04 AM

I know @SilverDeoxys563 was also having a similar error

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 04:27 AM

I have had that error pop-up as well

It is an access violation at a memory address

But who knows what part of the code is causing it

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 04:42 AM

Also on Windows 10 I get this different error (edited)

It is completely silent, the game does not even open/appear on screen

The launcher that is

G-Bond 14-May-18 05:08 AM

i have a problem with dgvoodoo when i put the path to the beta folder the apply button when i click on it dosent work

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 05:08 AM

dgvoodoo isn't always stable when saving settings, at least in my experience (edited)

Try clicking the .\ button and then select the right directory

or run dgvoodoo config as administrator

G-Bond 14-May-18 05:14 AM

it worked thank you

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 05:14 AM

np

Example 14-May-18 07:39 AM

Am I the only one that's still only seeing pitch black?

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 07:54 AM

What happens when you launch the game?

Just a black screen?

@Example

Example 14-May-18 07:55 AM

Yeah

I mean the menu text shows up

But the rest of the screen is black

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 07:55 AM

Ok... that is at least something

Example 14-May-18 07:55 AM

As is the game itself

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 07:55 AM

Do you have two graphics cards in your desktop computer/laptop?

You can check in Device Manager

Example 14-May-18 07:56 AM

Neither the SvpRad=1 or the Windows XP compatibility settings seem to work

Hang on I'll check

No just the one as far as I can tell

Is there a patch or something that I need to download?

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 07:59 AM

No just curious

Having two GPU's can cause issues depending on what each one can support etc

Example 14-May-18 08:00 AM

Ah I see

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:00 AM

There is one thing that you can try

But I will need to tell you what .dll files to change

Example 14-May-18 08:01 AM

Sure thing

What do I do?

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:02 AM

Delete these files that are in the game's launcher folder, just make sure to leave them in the recylcing bin so that you can recover them for later

Example 14-May-18 08:04 AM

Yep, now what?

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:04 AM

Extract all these .dll files into the same directory that you deleted the previous dll files from

Attachment: libwine.zip (1.27 MB)

Example 14-May-18 08:06 AM

Done

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:06 AM

Try and run the game

No configuring required

Example 14-May-18 08:08 AM

Nope, still not working

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:08 AM

Ok then

Try to reinstall both the game and launcher

Example 14-May-18 08:09 AM

Ok

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:09 AM

Or

https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/download/details.aspx?id=35

Download and Install DirectX9 End User Runtime | Install DirectX, DX9

The Microsoft DirectX® End-User Runtime provides updates to 9.0c and previous versions of DirectX — the core Windows® technology that drives high-speed multimedia and games on the PC.

That might help but no guarantees (edited)

Example 14-May-18 08:11 AM

I'm trying that link you gave but it's not letting me download

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:11 AM

Ok, same here

I managed to download it somehow

Relaly wierd

Example 14-May-18 08:11 AM

The "No Thanks and Continue" button does nothing

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:11 AM

Attachment: dxwebsetup.exe (285.34 KB)

Example 14-May-18 08:12 AM

Ah thanks

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:12 AM

I like hit back to go back to the previous page and then forward again and it gave me the link/file

Example 14-May-18 08:13 AM

Apparently I've already got the latest version of DirectX installed and it's not necessary

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:13 AM

Yeah

It can install previous components that have not been installed on Windows 10 (sometimes the case)

Example 14-May-18 08:14 AM

I just finished downloading the beta from the launcher

I'll see if this works

By the way thanks for the help man

I really appreciate it

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:16 AM

np

I like getting into the technical aspects of things sometimes

Does the game launch in fullscreen when opening it ?

Or windowed? (default)

You should also try to update your GPU's drivers

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 14-May-18 08:23 AM

Good to hear you found DX9! I'm bothering Vahkiti as much as I can about making manual installation more clear on the download page, providing links more concisely, etc.

(edited)

Example 14-May-18 08:28 AM

When I first tried the beta it launched windowed

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:28 AM

And it is black right?

Example 14-May-18 08:28 AM

Yes

I haven't tried the patch yet

Still downloading it

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:28 AM

I will provide you with another link to DirectX-End-User-Runtimes that should include what I was trying to get you to install (optional DirectX components that can be useful): https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmpwh86eymi8s3c/directx_Jun2010_redist.exe?dl=0

directx_Jun2010_redist.exe

Shared with Dropbox

ok

Example 14-May-18 08:28 AM

Cheers m8

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:29 AM

Wait till the patch is finished

Then install the DirectX stuff

Example 14-May-18 08:29 AM

Gonna be waiting a while

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 08:29 AM

It can take a while (DirectX and the patch) (edited)

Example 14-May-18 09:07 AM

Well that seems to have done the trick

It's working now

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 09:10 AM

Yay!

Example 14-May-18 09:20 AM

Thanks again guys

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:42 PM

Ay boys, I'm awake and feeling a bit better. Lay it on me. What's new? What's beefed? xP

OH I should push that small launcher update now

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:43 PM

When the grapple connects, then it only pulls me in for 1 frame and then disconnects

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:43 PM

O_o

That's new

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:44 PM

this

Attachment: Bionicle_5_14_2018_6_43_57_PM.mp4 (5.63 MB)

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:45 PM

Are you just pressing space once?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:45 PM

yes

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:45 PM

If you press it more than once it'll return to you.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:45 PM

I could make a new video with keyboard inputs

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:45 PM

You sure you don't have any kind of macros or turbo functions enabled mr. speedrunner?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:45 PM

no

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:46 PM

Hm

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:46 PM

my only macro is pg up and pg dn for debug menu controls

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:46 PM

Are you running the autohotkey script for the debug menu? I might have beefed something in that

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:46 PM

might be a side effect of 164 fps

but I'm not running the script

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:46 PM

Why are you running it at such a high fps?

HOW are you running it at such a high fps?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:47 PM

I have a 164Hz monitor

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:47 PM

DGVoodoo is suposed to limit that

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:47 PM

it doesn't for some reason

the credits are like WOOOOOSH

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:47 PM

Is force vsync enabled?

THat might override the limit

emily (peri) 14-May-18 12:51 PM

yeah that grapple problem is deffo a framerate thing, I had the same thing

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:51 PM

I find that super ironic actually

Cause high framerates are also responsible for GALIDOR'S grapple issue. xP

emily (peri) 14-May-18 12:52 PM

hah

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 12:54 PM

did the debug menu controls change for the beta? I can't access them

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGAC15hEeq4&feature=youtu.be

OndrikB

TLoMN Bug report

I decided to crush 2 birds with 1 stone. So here it is, Vahkiti: Proof of 164 fps AND the grapple bug.

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:54 PM

Ye

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 12:54 PM

here

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:54 PM

Well sort of

The controls are the same except for the debug camera.

That's now Numpad / instead of Numpad 0

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 12:56 PM

I didn't use the launcher on the alpha because it ran fine without it (win7). However the beta is giving me trouble, the graphics dont render (black screen with menu options). figured i could fix it with the debug menu but i can't get there. any ideas? using dgvoodu with the beta just crashes it

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:56 PM

If you're not using the launcher you don't have the patches

The game needs the patches to run properly at all

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 12:57 PM

ah. was there a recent patch then? i installed both yesterday morning and got the white error screen

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 12:58 PM

I keep getting an unhandled exception after Onua's boss fight when trying to load into Ga-koro

I've managed to load in a couple of times successfully before though

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 12:59 PM

If the stream from last night is any indication, the game will just crash seemingly at random sometimes. That having been said, are you playing from the test menu, or the Kini menu? (edited)

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 12:59 PM

Sorry uh, I don't know what those are

I mean

I start at the Front End/Level 1-5 screen (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:00 PM

???

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 01:00 PM

@8BitWalugi Does it crash after loading the area

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:00 PM

Oh

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:00 PM

I use front End to get to the title screen and move from there

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:00 PM

Yeah there's your issue

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:00 PM

@ShadowDraikana Most of the time on the loading screen itself

Ah

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:00 PM

Idk why people keep trying to play the game from that menu. It's in the patch notes that it was disabled for a reason

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:01 PM

i'm assuming its frontend, since without running the launcher i can see "play" "options" and "quit" on a black screen. with the launcher i have no idea which menu it wants to load because it never opens

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:01 PM

It was on by default when I started

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:01 PM

No it wasn't.

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:01 PM

I swear it was

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:01 PM

If you're going to Frontend rather than Onua, you're doing it wrong.

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:01 PM

I go front end>Title>select save>etc

But the level select was always there from the start when I started

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:02 PM

the alpha had been patched to open with onua. not sure if the beta had-- i'll try the launcher again with the patches...

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 01:02 PM

Use that level select @8BitWalugi . Do not use the front end route

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:02 PM

I kinda just wanted to play through it as normally as possible

Or is it uh, still that broken that you can't transition between toa?

I commented out LegoTester, loaded Ga-koro and started falling from the sky

Tried the camera warp thing and it crashed just as I started to move it

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:08 PM

So you did read that far into the patch notes?

What part of "Severe save issues" wasn't entirely clear? xD

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:08 PM

So uh, this is what that note was referring to?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:09 PM

Yes.

When the game saves data from the frontend, it fails to save certain flags for some reason.

In this case, a cinematic is supposed to play.

But it does not.

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:10 PM

I see...

Can anything be done or do I need to start over?

Or is my only option to ignore and select the next level?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:13 PM

You can reenable the test menu and just load up Gali's level

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:13 PM

btw, thanks for all the hard work you guys have been giving with the beta and getting everyone up to speed. this means a lot

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:16 PM

Yeah, absolutely. Thanks to everyone for the effort that went into recovering this game

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:17 PM

No prob.

I pushed a launcher update btw for everyone having issues with the alpha

It SHOULD work properly now

*Knock on wood *

If I have time I'll tinker with a resolution menu today

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:24 PM

well, I gotta say I'm super looking forward to the rest of this project

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:24 PM

❤

8BitWalugi 14-May-18 01:24 PM

I still just wanna play through as legit as possible so I'll wait for the next few patches before trying again

I've been a fan since release, my first set was Pohatu Mata

So you guys are doing wonders for my nostalgia

Keep up the fantastic work on restoring this game

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 01:31 PM

Also I fixed the falling from the sky thing so that start area doesn't crash and gives you a chance to warp out of there

the spawn points for Gali's mtup area are WAY off the mark

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:33 PM

okay so the patches are in. both the launcher and beta are under the same folder. voodoo settings don't seem to save after i apply and reopen later. getting the unhandled exception error

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:34 PM

Are you pointing DGVoodoo to the config in the LEGO Bionicle (Beta) folder?

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:34 PM

yes

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:34 PM

Are you running DGVoodoo from the launcher?

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:34 PM

yes

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:34 PM

Try running the launcher itself as admin. That shouldn't be necessary but I've had a couple of people say it was

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:35 PM

tried that. no luck

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:37 PM

No luck saving or running?

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:37 PM

same error as before

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:42 PM

Sounds like the patch causes an issue. Hmm...

Submit a bug report with our crash address and system specs to the github

liquidelectricity 14-May-18 01:47 PM

SilverDeoxys563 already posted a similar issue on github, so i'll leave it there. thanks

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 01:50 PM

Well add yourself as a follower or whatever github has to confirm you have it as well.

I would also appreciate your system specs in the comments as well.

The additional data would be useful

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:09 PM

Any help with my bug?

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:09 PM

What was your issue?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:10 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGAC15hEeq4&feature=youtu.be

OndrikB

TLoMN Bug report

I decided to crush 2 birds with 1 stone. So here it is, Vahkiti: Proof of 164 fps AND the grapple bug.

Grappling hook, after connecting, pulls in for 1 frame and disconnects

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:11 PM

It's also apparently an angle thing from my experience

but you're not the only one with the problem

What's your OS out of curiosity?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:12 PM

Win10

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:12 PM

Everyone I've seen who's reported it is on Win10

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:13 PM

Here are my specs, if you need that

(yes it's a minecraft screenshot)

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:14 PM

Pretty sure this is simply a Win10 thing

Also, could you do me a favor and see if the vine death issue you opened for the alpha is still a thing

Doesn't appear to be a problem for me, though the game freezes for a moment

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:17 PM

uhh, you mean try to reproduce the death issue in the beta?

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:17 PM

yeah

if it's not causing a problem, then I'll close it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:18 PM

le07 no longer exists, that was the only level where it happened

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:18 PM

it did not happen in any other area with vines?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:18 PM

not that I tried

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:19 PM

well, I'd still check to be on the safe side

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:23 PM

doesn't happen

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:24 PM

Also try it in Lewa's makuta level area

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:24 PM

it never happened in the alpha there

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:24 PM

still, it can't hurt to be absolutely sure

I can confirm it's not happening, just want to be sure it's not cropping up on Win10 or anything

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:26 PM

doesn't happen

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:26 PM

alright, I'm closing the issue

thanks for checking

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-May-18 02:26 PM

you're welcome

justframbo 14-May-18 02:29 PM

lomn sure likes to crash a lot

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:31 PM

that's an understatement, lol

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:31 PM

Still more stable than the alpha

It's good that the game saves after every room

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:32 PM

at least some of these crashes actually have a root cause, like the missing gear from mtop

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:32 PM

Ye

And all the force closes are gone

Those are HELL to debug

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:32 PM

actually no they aren't gone. Trying to fix certain slbs causes shutdowns

Let me explain

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:33 PM

Well

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:33 PM

generally speaking yes, they're gone

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:33 PM

THey're gone in the sense that there aren't any in the base game that can't be explained.

Eg: The SCRP close in the alpha

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:33 PM

ye

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:34 PM

Any that pop up during development we generally know the cause of cause... well it was US that did it.

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:37 PM

Let me give you an example, which is something we need to look into: in Ga-Koro, there are four unidentified quads under the matoran number markers for the horns. Those quads are actually four separate models placed by the obj.slb. Trying to remove them (or even add new objects) causes the area to shutdown after a few seconds.

I have no explanation for it

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:38 PM

That reminds me of another issue there. Came up on the stream last night.

Sometimes if you blow the horn, Gali will be unable to move after the animation completes. Additionally, playing the horn also launches the grapple which seems to be related. (edited)

In most cases, if you try to move before the grapple returns after blowing the horn, this is where the player gets locked in place.

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:39 PM

I've never once had the grapple launch when blowing a horn

not once

I just loaded it up and tried it

My guess is this is yet again a Win10 thing

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:40 PM

.-.

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:40 PM

related to the grapple malfunction

that Pereki and Ondrik reported

Also did you notice that Pohatu spawn problem after leaving GLY3?

you get trapped behind that door

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:42 PM

Ye

Is that not an easy fix though?

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:42 PM

I already fixed that

forgot to send it earlier

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:42 PM

Rip

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:42 PM

I also removed the backtrack trigger into gly3 since obviously you shouldn't be able to

speaking of the shrine I got the camera out of Pohatu's ass as well

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:43 PM

Lel

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:45 PM

the camera is reaaaally wonky, so I just zoomed in a tad since other angles were getting butt shots and wrong angles

I have a general idea of how it works now, though

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:46 PM

Any idea how in level cinematics are handled yet?

Also some people were asking for the totems to come back

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:50 PM

I'm still working on it, though I figured out that areas that start with a cutscene (which you can disable by removing the char for that cinematic) have ambient sounds and the hud disabled until the cinematic ends. This leads me to suspect there might be a problem with the sound triggers in Onua meets Gali, because ambient sounds never trigger for some reason. I'm entertaining the idea since the sound slbs can cause crashes

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:50 PM

Hm

Well if you want to tinker, might I suggest looking into the Nobua cutscene?

All the data is still there, and the alpha saves the flags properly, so you can cross reference the differences

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:51 PM

Do you have that save "template" handy?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:52 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/434824552875425796/436251326586814464/unknown.png

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:52 PM

Actually a real binary template would be nice to have

might help with figuring out the flag issues with the front end

Question: does the cutscene mp3 still exist?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:53 PM

ye

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:53 PM

OH YES

I might look into getting the signs back into the beach too

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:55 PM

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:55 PM

it has the conversation slb still there

so that should be quite easy, as long as the actual text is still alive

oh no wait

The text for the cutscene and the signs have been removed, so forget seeing that any time soon

It's going to be hell putting those back in.

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 02:58 PM

I mean it'll still play

It'll just have the placeholder XXX until the text is updated

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 02:59 PM

Ye

Also speaking of that, I got the cinematic sound slb solved.

the char file I get as well, to some extent

Actually dude wait

I can't do shit with these until we figure out how the hell the cutscenes get triggered to begin with

We have another very strange problem

Nokama's trident renders properly everywhere BUT after the Taniwa battle

how the fuck does that happen

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:15 PM

Oh yeah, just remembered a couple of other issues to be sorted.

The lava textures in TA02 are unanimated.

Additionally, Tahu's later areas have A LOT of overlapping music

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 03:17 PM

The lava textures in TA02 aren't going to be animated. Those are all pieces of a giant jigsaw puzzle, so animating them will look really, really, bad.

If we could make the lava as a whole spin, then yeah

And yeah, I noticed. That's all osi though

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:21 PM

Is there a reason they're all individual meshes and/or textures?

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-18 03:22 PM

so many unread messages, are you guys gonna fix the textures omega removed

for onua's gears, etc

is that done already

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 03:22 PM

I already did

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-18 03:22 PM

good

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 03:22 PM

the Gali gear thing is different though

@UTTER_BODGE Figured out where those quads are coming from in Ga-Koro

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-18 03:27 PM

yeah I found them as well

wasn't sure if they had any weird functionality though

do they have any flags in the obj slb

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 03:28 PM

try removing them and watch what happens

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-18 03:28 PM

busy

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 03:28 PM

Try doing ANYTHING to the obj.slb

it shuts down immediately upon load

Gatanui 14-May-18 03:54 PM

Is it normal for the game to crash in the chamber after the Nui-Jaga?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:55 PM

It WAS prior to the fix.

Gatanui 14-May-18 03:55 PM

Well, I've got the latest version.

Galgo 14-May-18 03:55 PM

Also why do the horns seem to lock Gali into place? And is there a way to load levels besides Onua's from the front end? (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:55 PM

You shouldn't be using the front end

Gatanui 14-May-18 03:56 PM

What's the problem with the front end?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:56 PM

Save issues

Some important flags aren't set such as some cinematics

Galgo 14-May-18 03:56 PM

But doesn't the debug menu have load issues?

Gatanui 14-May-18 03:56 PM

Oh, I was wondering why there weren't any cinematics. (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:56 PM

it lacks the load button, but otherwise it works

Gatanui 14-May-18 03:56 PM

But saving seems fine so far.

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:56 PM

It works until you get to Gali's level

The intro cinematic is supposed to play but instead you just fall into a pit

Galgo 14-May-18 03:57 PM

Is there any way you guys could implement a load button?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:57 PM

Working on it

Galgo 14-May-18 03:57 PM

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:57 PM

As for the horns, I have that issue too

Windows 10?

Galgo 14-May-18 03:57 PM

Yes, but I think the same thing happened to me last night on Windows 98

Gatanui 14-May-18 03:57 PM

So I've been playing from the front end so far, could that be the reason for the Nui-Jaga crash?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 03:57 PM

Ye

Galgo 14-May-18 03:57 PM

I could be remembering wrong though

Teylgate 14-May-18 03:57 PM

I installed the beta manually as @V A H K I T I said but it's still telling me the base game isn't installed

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 03:58 PM

Let me be clear, the Gali horn softlock never happens for me on my Win7 machines

Gatanui 14-May-18 03:58 PM

If I've played from the frontend so far, can I keep my save state?

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 03:58 PM

so I tend to think it's an OS thing

Galgo 14-May-18 03:58 PM

I should be playing from windows 7 then, I have a partition with it installed

once that's settled the only issue will be the fact that certain things run too fast

I tried using a CPU killer but it didn't have the desired effect

Gatanui 14-May-18 04:00 PM

Is the save state replaced if I begin to play from the first menu?

The one with the mask.

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-18 04:00 PM

Oh, I was wondering why there weren't any cinematics. to be clear, a lot of cutscenes were outright removed as well

like, in-level ones

Galgo 14-May-18 04:00 PM

There is no loading from that menu @Gatanui

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 04:00 PM

Not yet anyways

Galgo 14-May-18 04:00 PM

yet anyways

literally completed my thought

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 04:00 PM

It does SAVE

It just has the load button removed

Gatanui 14-May-18 04:00 PM

So if you want to save the game, you can only play from the front end, which is problematic?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 04:01 PM

The test menu uses Player0.sav

Galgo 14-May-18 04:01 PM

@Gatanui you can use the debug menu to warp around, but it isn't the same as a dedicated load button (edited)

but it's better than nothing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 04:01 PM

Yeah, that's how I did it on the stream

Galgo 14-May-18 04:02 PM

how hard would it be to extend the infected hau animation?

because that seriously bothers me

Gatanui 14-May-18 04:02 PM

So it's not really possible to play the game saving normally so far?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 04:03 PM

Nope

Gatanui 14-May-18 04:03 PM

Too bad.

All that time getting all the UUDs for nothing.

Galgo 14-May-18 04:03 PM

speaking of which, what's with that section in Pohatu's level where you click a button or something and rocks start falling?

is it an endurance thing or what?

shooting the boulders makes them fly away

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 04:04 PM

When you break enough the door slowly opens

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:04 PM

@Galgo Animations of a lot of stuff is sped up. Lewa's boss for example is incredibly difficult thanks to the higher fps

Uh no

the door opens on its own

without shooting the boulders

Gatanui 14-May-18 04:05 PM

But if I start a game from the test menu, the save state from the frontend would be kept, right?

Galgo 14-May-18 04:05 PM

Yeah but optimizing the animations for 75fps playback would improve a lot of other stuff

really it's only the infected hau that sticks out

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:05 PM

and Lewa's boss

that is painfully apparent if you try it

Galgo 14-May-18 04:06 PM

I haven't tried it on a computer fast enough for it to be noticeable

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:06 PM

I mean the attack speed is too fast. As in, it sucks you up faster than it's supposed to

the physics themselves are sped up

jamesster has a video of it

Galgo 14-May-18 04:07 PM

was saffire just counting on it running okay on the computers of the time?

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:07 PM

ISX doesn't have a proper fps cap either, so it can reach 1000 fpsin some cases

Metroidwave 14-May-18 04:07 PM

I don't know what triggers it, but the masks begin to constantly switch, rendering them unable to be used. This happens even at the start of Onua's level, despite only having the Pakari.

Galgo 14-May-18 04:08 PM

what do you mean switch?

something similar happened to me in the alpha

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:08 PM

first I've heard of this.

Metroidwave 14-May-18 04:09 PM

They cycle between whatever masks I currently have.

Galgo 14-May-18 04:09 PM

are you on a laptop?

Metroidwave 14-May-18 04:09 PM

It stops whenever a conversation plays or I ledge grab, but then resumes afterwards

Yes.

Galgo 14-May-18 04:09 PM

maybe there's something up with your laptop scroll wheel

touch pad thing

because mouse wheel cycles through masks

Metroidwave 14-May-18 04:11 PM

If it happened from the get-go, probably. But it didn't happen when I played Lewa, while it will start after a few moments when I start Gali's level.

Galgo 14-May-18 04:16 PM

anyone know why transitions are disabled on some machines? (edited)

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:19 PM

might be OS related once again, or it could be something else entirely

Galgo 14-May-18 04:19 PM

I don't think so, they don't work on 98

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:19 PM

for a while Onua meets Gali wouldn't play until I redid my blk

Galgo 14-May-18 04:19 PM

incidentally they did work on XP, 7, and 10

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:24 PM

@V A H K I T I Yellow spheres

is that too green, too dark, etc?

OH it's green partially because the ring is combining wit the yellow aura

let me adjust that first

Windows Desktop Manager has stopped working. da fuq

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 04:31 PM

Noice

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:31 PM

I'm working on the rest, should be done in a few minutes

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 04:49 PM

@V A H K I T I

omegalucas 14-May-18 05:08 PM

Maybe a bit brighter yellow to make it closer to the HUD element?

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:14 PM

This is as bright as it's going to get without getting orange

the background doesn't play nicely with this color

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:14 PM

I think what he means is the colour balance is off

It would also help if you were showing us a comparison against the sky rather than the dark green grass

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:15 PM

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:17 PM

Yeah, it needs less red and more green

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:18 PM

so the rest looks fine

except for the main projectile texture

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:19 PM

Ye

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:19 PM

I was trying to make it look more orange than green because of the way it looks in-game. Makes it look more like Onua's than yellow

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:19 PM

Hm

It depends on the area though, right?

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:20 PM

It may, like looking at my previous screenie it looks more green

in other places it looks more red O_o

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:21 PM

It's because it's semi-transparent you egg.

The colours are mixing with the background

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:22 PM

Of course, which is why I edited the ring earlier

after my first try

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:22 PM

Right but you can't just edit it for ONE background

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:23 PM

This might explain why it's blue to begin with (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:23 PM

You can figure it out, you're smart.

Try giving the projectile a soft white outline. it'll fill in the other semi-transparent areas and make it blend less

Eg: like the "glow" around the box art logo

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:26 PM

I think I just nailed it, let me see how it looks with all surfaces

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:33 PM

playing with the shades atm. better or worse?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:34 PM

Hmmm

A bit worse? Hard to say

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:35 PM

Need a few different looks?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:35 PM

ye

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:38 PM

here's one

another

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:41 PM

I like it

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:42 PM

Noice

FUCK

power just dropped here

I'll get these to you if I still have a connection

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 05:43 PM

K.

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 05:43 PM

stand by

ShadowDraikana 14-May-18 06:02 PM

@V A H K I T I Sent to your PM

Deleted User 14-May-18 06:03 PM

Game crashed before even starting, game is patched Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 0056476c

That's the alpha version

Beta version shows shows as windowed when I set it as fullscreen

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 06:04 PM

Have you changed the bionicle.ini file to make it so that it opens in fullscreen?

Deleted User 14-May-18 06:04 PM

Not yet

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 06:04 PM

That is what you should try to do

Deleted User 14-May-18 06:05 PM

But the other game crash is what worries me

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 06:05 PM

I have seen access violations before, they are really wierd and hard to find what went wrong in a already compiled game

But I don't have much reverse-engineering experience, so I can't say too much about them. Besides that some older games can't access the right resources (memory address)

Monopoly Tycoon from 2001 has the same issue on Windows Vista or above

And it is an obscure game too

Getting two errors in Event Viewer when trying to open the launcher on Windows 10

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 06:17 PM

@V A H K I T I

Metroidwave 14-May-18 07:11 PM

I flew a Kane-Ra. After dieing in water during the Kane-Ra section of Pohatu's level, upon respawning, it got all floaty. I assume that the water physics somehow stuck around upon respawn.

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 07:12 PM

Ye. THat's known and will be fixed in the next patch

Metroidwave 14-May-18 07:12 PM

Also, I found out more about the Mask switching glitch.

It is activated by using the scroll on either a mouse or touchpad, but keeps switching after I have stopped scrolling.

mrpenguinb 14-May-18 07:36 PM

Still get a faulting module with KernelBase.dll

When opening the launcher.......

benji 14-May-18 07:37 PM

it's the FileNotFoundException that's important (the '.NET Runtime' entry), and it's in the Form1 constructor @V A H K I T I (edited)

omegalucas 14-May-18 07:37 PM

So, I was watching the stream and the mask icons didn't match the mask the Toa was using in Makuta (edited)

Ok nvm Liam addressed it in the stream lol (edited)

Benderman115 14-May-18 08:38 PM

@V A H K I T I you busy ? can you help me

it ok if you cant right now

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 08:38 PM

I'm not home right now. D:

Benderman115 14-May-18 08:39 PM

np dude

KronkyDonk 14-May-18 10:36 PM

Found a save-bricking bug that I haven't seen listed anywhere

Backtracking to this part of the cave section crashes the game on startup

I believe it's right at the end of the section where you need to use the Ruru to see in the caves

Benderman115 14-May-18 10:52 PM

@V A H K I T I are you hom,e yet ?

V A H K I T I 14-May-18 10:57 PM

Yes, but it's also late. xD

Benderman115 14-May-18 11:00 PM

its ok i can wait

FPS FTW 14-May-18 11:06 PM

Falling in the hole by the Onua cliff caused my game to crash once

KronkyDonk 14-May-18 11:06 PM

Yeah same

Benderman115 14-May-18 11:08 PM

what program was this game made in ?

i know a little c sharp

benji 14-May-18 11:09 PM

C++, with a good bit of it in a custom script language.

LOMNTool is made in C# though

feel free to browse through the source if you want

Constraction_Deva 15-May-18 01:44 AM

not sure if this has been posted but once you defeat the Fikou-Nui and go into the next tunnel the game will crash if you walk too far into it, and if you exit back into the room where you fight it, the game resets the boss and the web reappears trapping you between it and the closed door.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/225393148485042177/445049147922579486/unknown.png?width=841&height=473

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/225393148485042177/445049200003252244/unknown.png?width=841&height=473

CyclonatorZ 15-May-18 09:32 AM

@Constraction_Deva You won't crash in the next room if you have your huna activated. Make sure to get the mask energy midway, otherwise you might run out.

Constraction_Deva 15-May-18 10:09 AM

Ah

Thx

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 10:44 AM

Could you please make the Ice Elemental boss fight easier?

Protokuta 15-May-18 11:10 AM

He follows the same pattern each time

He always starts by attacking the platform you're on

Once you memorize the pattern, he can be beaten without taking damage very easily

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 11:11 AM

what's the pattern?

Protokuta 15-May-18 11:13 AM

I can't remember exactly right now

I can try to make a video when I get home later today

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 11:39 AM

Just PM me the video when you have it ok?

emily (peri) 15-May-18 11:39 AM

good rule of thumb is just to always jump right when it goes for your platform, to avoid the other fist waving around

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 12:15 PM

I need some help with a bug, or two...

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 12:33 PM

Cough-cough......... Is everyone here asleep? (edited)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 15-May-18 12:34 PM

Everybody able to help with bugs atleast.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 12:37 PM

Well I'll just post them here anyways, my three issues are this: 1. When loading gali's level, I fall from the sky then the game crashes. 2. I can't open the console to bypass the first bug. 3. Can't open the game in admin mode or I get an error saying that something couldn't create a directX 8 emulation. (edited)

Protokuta 15-May-18 12:39 PM

Gali's level can only accessed via the level select as of now, I think. Same with every toa not named Onua.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 12:54 PM

Well, I don't start on the level select

also added another bug to the list (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:43 PM

>Main menu disabled for a reason >Does it anyways

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:46 PM

Hmm? What does that correspond to on my bugs list?

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:47 PM

The first one, and many others you have yet to encounter.

Idk what you're doing with the others. For #2, did you modify your bionicle.ini to remove the cheat options?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:50 PM

Nope, it's still LEGOTESTER or whatever

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:51 PM

And NoGreenCapes?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:52 PM

Yep

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:53 PM

What button are you pressing for the debug menu?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:53 PM

I didn't change the ini at all except for the resolution, I think it has to do with not running it in admin mode, @V A H K I T I try running it from the exe in the install folder.

'Delete'

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:54 PM

Admin mode has nothing to do with the debug menu. Does it work for you in the alpha still?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:55 PM

Alpha:

Deadgineer 15-May-18 01:56 PM

Not gonna lie, I feel bad for you guys, seeing as there are so many bug reports to read through and solve

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:56 PM

Beta Without admin mode: (edited)

OH YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:56 PM

Fixed itself?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:56 PM

yep

Natr 15-May-18 01:57 PM

This game is a clusterfuck of problems (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:57 PM

Hehehehehehe. THis game is a fucking enigma and you will learn to hate it as much as I have

xP

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:57 PM

Beta with admin mode: (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:57 PM

For you this is all new and exciting gaslighting by the game.

Natr 15-May-18 01:57 PM

That s why I'm only doing textures. It's simple art

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:57 PM

For me it's just Tuesday.

Ohey it's LITERALLY Tuesday!

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 01:58 PM

You said it on stream

Natr 15-May-18 01:58 PM

Well there be a credit screen for everybody who fixed the game up

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:58 PM

Only issue now @V A H K I T I is that it doesn't want to run at 21:9

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 01:58 PM

@Deadgineer Well that's what the github is for. Gotta keep track of it all somehow. It does get a LITTLE overwhelming sometimes though

@(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 You have to set the resolution in the INI and DGVoodoo.

I'll start working on a resolution dropdown that edits both eventually

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 01:59 PM

yeah, but I'm afraid to open DGVoodoo, because I think it may have been the reason it wasn't launching in admin mode.

Deadgineer 15-May-18 02:00 PM

This game must currently be hell to work with, seeing as we have yet to decompile the game exe

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:00 PM

That.. that's absurd (edited)

@(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231

xD

@Deadgineer Well we have IDA for that. It's the OSI that's still a roadblock.

Deadgineer 15-May-18 02:01 PM

@V A H K I T I Ida?

Explain

Natr 15-May-18 02:01 PM

Someone said the game was 90% done wheeze

Deadgineer 15-May-18 02:02 PM

Content wise, at least :p

Natr 15-May-18 02:03 PM

The textures seem unfinished, many animations needed, 69 different glitches, a few unfinished levels...

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:03 PM

Most of that we can't really fix without source code.

Natr 15-May-18 02:04 PM

We can't fix the glitches or the animations?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:05 PM

I mean, we can't really add stuff, only change it, or at least that's my understanding of it.

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:06 PM

Boi

Stop giving misinformation. xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQeR2Az3JvA

The Beaverhouse

FAST 2: The Legend Reborn

Natr 15-May-18 02:06 PM

Oh ya

Thats beautiful

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:06 PM

:3

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:06 PM

Well, alright

Natr 15-May-18 02:06 PM

Levels could be added

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:07 PM

could we theoretically use modding to make a sequel to the game (importing bohrok models etc)

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:07 PM

We don't know the animation format yet, but we have nearly everything else wide open

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:07 PM

?

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:07 PM

Yes

In theory

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:07 PM

Okay, figured out why it was broken before @V A H K I T I It's because it won't run in 21:9

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:07 PM

?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:07 PM

and because I set it to that in the INI it broke the game / wouldn't run in admin mode, making it unable to access the ini (edited)

Natr 15-May-18 02:07 PM

One question, if I were able to make the textures look better will I be credited and will there be a credits for everybody who worked here? (edited)

Also the bosses are harder than cuphead

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:09 PM

That's absurd @(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 setting INI settings is not going to stop a completely different file from running as admin. .-.

Boi don't you RUN BMOP? You should know these things. xD

I figured we were pretty much equals in technical knowledge here.

Natr 15-May-18 02:10 PM

I know nothing

Only texture making...

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:10 PM

Also @Natr, yes, but they won't go in the main patch. I don't see what the problem with them is to begin with however. Can you provide an example?

Natr 15-May-18 02:11 PM

Sunday's stream

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:11 PM

What about it?

Natr 15-May-18 02:11 PM

Marshmallow (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:11 PM

...

Natr 15-May-18 02:12 PM

He looks way too hard to beat?

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:12 PM

WHat does the wind elemental have to do with the textures?

Natr 15-May-18 02:13 PM

Oh I thought you were mentioning the "bosses are harder than cuphead"

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:13 PM

Lel

Most of them are pretty easy tbh

It's just the last two that need work

And the Rock Elemental for obvious reasons

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:14 PM

If that's the case, how do you beat the Ice Elemental? I always struggle there

Natr 15-May-18 02:14 PM

Many of the textures look washed up like the hills, the beaches, the eyes on the katora(I don't know if I said that right), the environment and maybe I could make the toa look cleaner (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:14 PM

I'd still like a visual example, cause I've not noticed any of that.

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) Well for one, when he goes into phase 2 and starts double fisting random platforms, the shockwave from that will damage you even if you're not in its direct path. You just have to time your jumps.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:16 PM

At how much HP does Phase 2 start?

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:16 PM

Half I assume

Natr 15-May-18 02:17 PM

The eyes look incredibly plain and I have a better lava texture I could use

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:17 PM

No, what I'm saying @V A H K I T I is that the INI works, but it breaks the game when I set it to my resolution, DGVoodoo doesn't change the resolution at all, even when I force it. (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:17 PM

The eyes are a stylistic choice that can't be changed yet even if you wanted to.

@(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 Are you pointing dgvoodoo to the config in the LEGO Bionicle (Beta) folder?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:24 PM

Yeah

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:24 PM

Running DGVoodoo from the launcher or directly?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:28 PM

Launcher

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 02:29 PM

Try running the launcher as admin?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:30 PM

It already does

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:40 PM

OMGF

I JUST GOT A PERFECT ICE ELEMENTAL FIGHT

thanks to everyone who helped me

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-May-18 02:41 PM

You're welcome

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:44 PM

Here are the instructions jump right, wait, jump left, jump up, shoot, jump right, wait, jump right, jump left, jump left, shoot, jump right, wait, jump up, jump right, wait, jump up, shoot, jump right, jump left, wait, jump up, jump right, jump left, shoot

Deleted User 15-May-18 02:46 PM

can you provide a list of coordinates as well

Deadgineer 15-May-18 02:46 PM

What is this, some TAS speedrun shit?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:46 PM

no

Deleted User 15-May-18 02:46 PM

yes

Deadgineer 15-May-18 02:46 PM

Ah

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:46 PM

I will upload a video soon

Deadgineer 15-May-18 02:46 PM

Wait what?

Me confused

2

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 02:46 PM

hold up getting obs ready

Also, saying TAS Speedrun is pretty much the same as saying ATM Machine or OS System 

Deleted User 15-May-18 02:53 PM

Tool Assisted Speedrun

there

i fixed it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 03:11 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwxTfThEbKA&feature=youtu.be

OndrikB

Bionicle TLoMN: Kokuru Nui fight without getting hit tutorial

Here it is, because text instructions were confusing.

There you go

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 03:13 PM

But

But you got hit in the FIRST TWO ATTACKS

Did you just not observe that?

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 03:18 PM

IT‘S LITERALLY AT THE END OF THE VIDEO

I CHOKED ON THOSE

IF YOU EXECUTE IT PERFECTLY YOU WONT GET HIT (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-May-18 03:18 PM

You said you missed some jumps, not that you got hit.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-May-18 03:18 PM

missing the jumps led to me getting hit

I said "the instructions are perfect"

I missed the jump where he slams down (didn't jump, should've)

and the other time I jumped into his hitbox

if you don't believe me, try it yourself

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:18 PM

Who here has the grapple bug, and/or the ga-koro horn softlock?

If you do, please give your system specs

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-May-18 05:19 PM

How do I check system specs?

nvm

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:22 PM

it's different on Win 8 I know that much

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-May-18 05:23 PM

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:23 PM

thx

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:42 PM

Oh hey this is a new one

So the Ta-matoran who accepts the lava board will keep using his thank you text, and will keep giving you shit XD

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-May-18 05:43 PM

Thats a thing with all of them

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:43 PM

ALL of them

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-May-18 05:43 PM

yes

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:43 PM

Every single one?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-May-18 05:44 PM

If I had that Piccolo quote, I'd post it now

ALL OF THEM

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:44 PM

WHY SAFFIRE WHY

Actually

I think I can fix it

IF what is going wrong is in fact going wrong

Has anyone actually found the disk in Tahu's level? (edited)

emily (peri) 15-May-18 05:49 PM

in the maze I think

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:50 PM

don't think it's in there still

the volcano glyph is however

emily (peri) 15-May-18 05:54 PM

hm

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:54 PM

and it displays the wrong text, just like the lava board

actually it displays the lava board's text

emily (peri) 15-May-18 05:58 PM

interesting

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 05:59 PM

two things in Kopaka's level have this same issue

as far as I can tell this all on the osi

item text is linked up in there

Natr 15-May-18 06:05 PM

Will an animation be made for grappling to things?

ShadowDraikana 15-May-18 06:05 PM

The animation exists, the game just isn't using it properly

it works when sinking underwater, for Onua

only explanation is something is messed up in the osi

the character movelists slbs are fine

Deadgineer 15-May-18 06:42 PM

well, we will have the osi decompilation tool public soon enough, i hope

Deadgineer 15-May-18 07:09 PM

the games page for bmp is still broken

people earlier told me it wasnt

Natr 15-May-18 07:36 PM

I don't know anything compared

Deadgineer 15-May-18 07:37 PM

its working for me now

nvm

Bitl 15-May-18 09:25 PM

idk if this is reported but if you fall into the waterfall in makuta's level it crashes the game

ScrapMetaru 15-May-18 10:18 PM

What, where and how do is the INI file?

joint-Dogg666 15-May-18 10:23 PM

What: a file with settings for the game Where: C:\Program Files\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle (Beta)\Bionicle.ini (by default) How do: notepad.exe (edited)

ScrapMetaru 15-May-18 10:28 PM

There's no .ini file in mine, but a file just called "Bionicle" says it's a "configuration settings", is that the same?

benji 15-May-18 10:34 PM

yep

also you should turn on file extensions so you can see the .ini

ScrapMetaru 15-May-18 10:43 PM

Fuckin'... The .ini says the resolution is 640x480 (moniter's not THAT small, btw) and I adjusted the Voodoo to match, but the damn window still ends up taller than my screen.

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 12:52 PM

https://youtu.be/vbDkF8ea3GY?t=1782 hah, haven't seen that happen before

walking animation playing while lava surfing

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-May-18 12:53 PM

dude im watching that video rn

xD

i can speak german

emily (peri) 16-May-18 01:21 PM

i think that just happens when you press W

oh, that video is reminding me how those fading transitions have never worked for me

I wonder why that is

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 01:24 PM

tried it, w or any other directional keys are having no effect

emily (peri) 16-May-18 01:24 PM

hm

must've been something else, I know I got it to happen before

Stripes__ 16-May-18 03:24 PM

the boss just keeps going around but doesn't appear again, any way around this?

Roblord 16-May-18 03:24 PM

Use the Earthquake gllyph

thing

Stripes__ 16-May-18 03:24 PM

oh so it's not a bug?

emily (peri) 16-May-18 03:25 PM

nope

doing an earthquake forces it to surface

Stripes__ 16-May-18 03:26 PM

oooh, ok i feel like an idiot now

thanks!

Stripes__ 16-May-18 06:03 PM

after the boss, when going to the next level, I spawn in air and fall through the map. I assume this is a known bug?

emily (peri) 16-May-18 06:05 PM

did you start your game via the frontend? might be to do with that

Stripes__ 16-May-18 06:05 PM

Yes I did

emily (peri) 16-May-18 06:06 PM

ok yeah. past onua's level stuff is kind of broken if you play from the front end. you gotta just load up the levels from the menu

Stripes__ 16-May-18 06:06 PM

Got it

i have another silly question, where can i watch the cutscenes?

it's probably been mentioned before but i'm pretty new

emily (peri) 16-May-18 06:07 PM

some of them will play properly when you start a level

you can get onua meets gali to run by warping to mtup in her level, but it'll crash at the end. and pohatu meets kopaka is still inaccessible

Stripes__ 16-May-18 06:09 PM

alright, trying it right now

@emily (peri) how do i select an option in the "debug" menu

delete brings up the menu that i know

i'm sorry that i'm bothering you with these questions

emily (peri) 16-May-18 06:11 PM

home key to select, pgup and pgdn to navigate. and no worries!

Stripes__ 16-May-18 06:14 PM

thank you so much

emily (peri) 16-May-18 06:14 PM

no problem

JessicaWeaver 16-May-18 07:20 PM

The debug menu scrolls through the options far too fast to be really functional for me

Like, a single press of page up/down sends me straight to the bottom or the top immediately

emily (peri) 16-May-18 07:22 PM

there was a fix for that with the alpha, idk if it was included with the final build or not

JessicaWeaver 16-May-18 07:22 PM

Really? I've had the issue in both builds

It's odd

emily (peri) 16-May-18 07:23 PM

its something that's gotta be run independently, Debug Menu Fix.exe

I was only able to get it running as admin as well

JessicaWeaver 16-May-18 07:25 PM

Ah, alright

I haven't really looked around in the files yet tbh

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-May-18 09:19 PM

So, just investigated something on a hunch, and I've found that Kopaka's melee attack makes enemies not drop pickups.

His is the only attack that does this.

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 09:37 PM

Curious

Submit that to the github and we'll look into it when we can

doomDevil96 16-May-18 09:54 PM

Forgive me for a big change in topic but in but the fire elemental is still undefeatable in tahu's level. I don't know I could be playing it wrong but the issue said it was closed, so I'm kind of confused.

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:08 PM

The issue was closed?

六Majora170 16-May-18 10:10 PM

i'm wondering if the Air Elemental is still bugged. I am able to manage 1 hit on him but I can't muster anything then that. Not sure if it is just bugged or i'm doing it wrong.

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 10:16 PM

if you have a way to limit your framerate, try that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQA4PxhacvA

jamessterV2

Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui - Lewa boss at 30 FPS (left) vs 6...

The final build of The Legend of Mata Nui has been found and is now released! http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/blog/the-legend-of-mata-nui-final-build/ I had a...

in that vid I was recording with fraps locking it to 30 FPS

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:17 PM

I've still never managed to replicate that.

I still think your PC is just wizard magic.

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 10:18 PM

what were you using to lock your framerate

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:19 PM

Fraps and Rivatuner. I tried both

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 10:23 PM

well, you're the first person I've run into in 8-9 years of framerate tricks/problems in games who hasn't been able to replicate something with fraps (many lego games have similar issues... games in generally really... but especially the later two lego island games)

(lego island 2's biplane is especially infamous, and island xtreme stunts has too many problems like that for a single one to be noteworthy lol)

actually even the original lego island has a bunch of problems like this

any chance dgvoodoo's FPS shenanigans interfere with fraps's FPS lock?

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:28 PM

Well I'd leave that to you to test mister "I can somehow run the game at 60 flat WITHOUT DGVoodoo".

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 10:28 PM

I literally can't; the game will not run with dgvoodoo for me under any circumstances

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:28 PM

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 10:28 PM

(several other people here have run into that and had to rename the dgvoodoo DLLs to get the game to launch without crashing) (edited)

(not even passthrough mode works; if dgvoodoo is anywhere in the equation the game shits itself on some machines)

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:29 PM

Well the obvious solution then is to do what we always planned to:

Address the issues DGVoodoo normally resolves within the game itself.

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 10:29 PM

that'd be the ideal solution indeed

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:29 PM

The main one of course being the framelimiter

We either need some kind of internal solution, or a better hands free external one.

Cause nobody's gonna want to install and run Fraps or Rivatuner every time the game is run.

benji 16-May-18 10:31 PM

Let's put in a ton of NOPs into the OSI now that we can do that /s

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 10:31 PM

not to mention fraps dumping uncompressed video to your hard drive is.... not ideal.........

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:31 PM

That's putting it lightly.

Wanna dig around in the OSI and see what you can tweak?

UTTER_BODGE 16-May-18 10:31 PM

I'll be looking at it when I can though life's been hella busy lately

V A H K I T I 16-May-18 10:32 PM

Rip

Matoro 16-May-18 11:28 PM

What are all of the edits/workarounds required to fix the black screen glitch?

ScrapMetaru 16-May-18 11:51 PM

'Kay, so I only just got around to fullscreening the game and actually starting a level (I prefer windowed, and hadn't even considered that), and two things: One: the game definitely runs on my W10 machine with all your fixes and voodoos. And two: you absolutely need to cap the framerate. (edited)

Or change all the enemy speeds.

Literally every enemy up to Onu-Koro that doesn't shoot bum-rushes with no hope of retaliation. (edited)

But you seem to know that. I should've checked first.

Example 17-May-18 02:12 AM

I love how the great Toa of Earth can get absolutely destroyed by a tiny little bug that just happens to be fast

ScrapMetaru 17-May-18 02:19 AM

It becomes slightly less lame when you note that the bug appears to be achieving bullet speed. Also does this game have goomba-stomping? I seem to kill half of these charging enemies accidentally by jumping while trying to escape and being unable to fight back otherwise.

someone please photoshop a Black Pakari and a talli walli onto SBCed Raditz. (edited)

kopaka1996 17-May-18 11:02 AM

Hello guys. First of all a huge thanks to all of you for the work you've done.

I'm currently playing the beta, but I'm stuck at unua's elemental boss fight because when I beat the elemental and exit the level I spawn midair far from the map and the cinematic (th one where he meets Gaai) doesn't start

I don't know if it's a known issue, but in your stream it does not happen. Do you know what might be the cause (at least for me)?

Ok, I'm sorry, I just noticed that someone just posted that...

Still, I thank you again for all the work you're doing for this game

❤

omegalucas 17-May-18 12:19 PM

Are you playing from the Front End?

That's probably why

It apparently disables cutscenes or something

Play through the level select menu that's enabled by default in the patch

Theburningeye 17-May-18 01:43 PM

Hey people. Is there a way of getting past the horns in Ga-Koro? P.S.: It's incredible that I'm finally able to play this game, so thanks to everyone involved.

emily (peri) 17-May-18 01:50 PM

are you experiencing the softlock with the horns, or just not sure what to do with em?

Theburningeye 17-May-18 01:51 PM

After blowing the first one, I'm unable to move

emily (peri) 17-May-18 01:52 PM

that's the softlock, unfortunately there isn't a fix right now. you're gonna want to reboot the game, then use the debug menu to restore the stuff you collected and warp to the room that that puzzle opens (evac) to continue

Theburningeye 17-May-18 01:53 PM

Thanks!

emily (peri) 17-May-18 01:53 PM

np

ShadowDraikana 17-May-18 01:53 PM

@Theburningeye what OS are you on?

Theburningeye 17-May-18 01:53 PM

Windows 10 with the XP 3 backwards comp. pack.

ShadowDraikana 17-May-18 01:53 PM

there's the problem

It's a Win 8/10 thing

everyone who has the issue has Win 8 or 10

Theburningeye 17-May-18 01:55 PM

There's also this weird thing thing where sometimes, when I check the inventory, instead of the usual screen, I get a line about "small of stature but with great strength" (I'm paraphrasing), which freezes the game.

ShadowDraikana 17-May-18 01:55 PM

that's also known

still unsure what's causing it

Theburningeye 17-May-18 01:55 PM

Oh, okay. I couldn't find that one in the discord.

Roblord 17-May-18 01:56 PM

maybe the game sometimes redirects to something it shouldn't and the game breaks or something, idk

Galgo 17-May-18 03:50 PM

I've found a way around the horn thing in Gali's level

It's caused by the grappling hook returning and interrupting the horn animation (edited)

Selecting it again from the debug menu under abilities gives Gali a grappling hook that goes significantly further than default, giving you time to finish two horn blows (edited)

So if you're already stuck, just change the grappling hook and click space

emily (peri) 17-May-18 04:06 PM

hah, neat

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-May-18 08:56 PM

So...using the Vahi also slows down the speed of the debug camera.

六Majora170 17-May-18 09:44 PM

This occurs when trying to open the game on my fiancee's laptop

UTTER_BODGE 17-May-18 09:45 PM

try removing or renaming dgvoodoo's DLLs

looks like the same issue I and a bunch of others have had

六Majora170 17-May-18 09:46 PM

Which ones are those.

UTTER_BODGE 17-May-18 09:46 PM

these, try adding an underscore in front of their names or something

problem is, dgvoodoo fixes several issues

but it also makes the game crash on startup on some computers

maybe you'll get lucky and the game will work decently without it like it does for me

六Majora170 17-May-18 09:48 PM

Successfully loaded.

SMA3SMW2YI 17-May-18 09:49 PM

oh wow thank you

it was so frustrating not being able to play the game

UTTER_BODGE 17-May-18 09:50 PM

@V A H K I T I you may want to make a note of this somewhere, it's kept a bunch of people from being able to play

V A H K I T I 17-May-18 09:55 PM

DGVoodoo fixes most of the game's most outstanding issues tied to framerate or newer graphics hardware. There's nothing we can do about this until somebody with grater technical knowledge, (Eg: you, when you get time. :P) can figure it out in the game itself

UTTER_BODGE 17-May-18 09:55 PM

you can make a note that people can work around it by removing dgvoodoo

V A H K I T I 17-May-18 09:55 PM

Ah that's what you meant

UTTER_BODGE 17-May-18 09:56 PM

it's not perfect but it's better than not being able to play at all

V A H K I T I 17-May-18 09:56 PM

ye

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 01:30 AM

Can someone confirm if a capped framerate makes enemies attack at a reasonable speed? I'd like to know BEFORE I bother to look for a good capper.

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 01:50 AM

Only @UTTER_BODGE has managed to confirm it as far as I know. I never could.

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 02:07 AM

But that was the Wind Elemental, I mean the normal rahi.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 02:38 AM

I have managed to cap my games framerate with NVIDIA Profiler @ScrapMetaru @V A H K I T I I can link you to the executable

I will just brb for a moment

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 02:45 AM

Attachment: nvidiaProfileInspector.zip (130.39 KB)

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 02:46 AM

Well, the problem with Nvidia is that I'm pretty sure my basic-ass towerless HP PC uses AMD.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 02:46 AM

Yeah

MSI Afterburner should have a frame limiter (edited)

G-Bond 18-May-18 02:51 AM

where do i put the file?

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 02:51 AM

What? The nvidia files?

G-Bond 18-May-18 02:52 AM

ye

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 02:52 AM

Extract it to a folder on your desktop or anywhere else and the run it

I will post a screenshot showing you what to do

G-Bond 18-May-18 02:52 AM

ah ok

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 02:53 AM

Make sure to set the FPS and then click apply changes

Then start the game and it should be capped!

G-Bond 18-May-18 02:53 AM

thank you

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 02:54 AM

The NVIDIA Inspector can cause input lag though... which I have noticed

MSI Afterburner Download Link: http://download.msi.com/uti_exe//vga/MSIAfterburnerSetup.zip

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 02:58 AM

@ScrapMetaru as far as I can tell, framerate has no impact on normal rahi

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 02:59 AM

aw.

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 02:59 AM

they're just... like that

as you can also see in deep brick's video

which was played on a machine that ran it at the roughly 30 FPS the dev machines presumably did

and they still behaved just as annoyingly

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:00 AM

Wine D3D is a good alternative to the dgvoodoo2 wrapper @V A H K I T I

http://fdossena.com/?p=wined3d/index.frag

WineD3D For Windows

DirectX 1-11 to OpenGL wrapper

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:01 AM

Oh?

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:01 AM

Yeah, I have had good experience with it

It has no GUI though...

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:01 AM

I'll have a try with it

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:01 AM

It is practically the same as dgvoodoo and has some support that DG does not have (compatibility with anti-aliasing) (edited)

Also RivaTuner worked and capped the game at 30 FPS after configuring it

I think you may have to leave it running in the background/tray, so don't click the "x" to close the application, instead minimize it (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:05 AM

Well THAT didn't work

In fact I hat to hard reset my PC cause it left me on an inescapable black screen

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:06 AM

I will test it out

Did you copy the right .dll files?

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:06 AM

Ye

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:07 AM

Worked for me

That is my file tree

Make sure to not delete the D3dx8cw.dll

G-Bond 18-May-18 03:08 AM

it works for me

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:08 AM

THE CURSOR WORKS?? It only just started working for some reason with Wine D3D (running Win 7 atm) (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:08 AM

That might be my issue, but at the same time it shouldn't be.

It always did for us.

G-Bond 18-May-18 03:08 AM

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:09 AM

Also d3d8cw is a dgvoodoo thing, so removing it shouldn't change anything

Or at least it shouldn't break it

I'm gonna get some sleep cause my PC takes like.. 20 minutes to start up, AND there's a windows update.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:10 AM

Oh no...

You are getting the latest 1803 update probably

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:10 AM

Remind me to tinker with this more in the morning

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:10 AM

It breaks the launcher on Windows 10

Ok

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:11 AM

If it breaks the launcher them all the better.

That means I can actually debug it

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 03:11 AM

If you are restarting more than once then you will be getting the update, otherwise it is probably a culmalative update (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:14 AM

I'll keep that in mind. :P

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 07:59 AM

Wine D3D Wrapper -> OpenGL - Set your game's resolution through the Bionicle.ini file. My preferred resolution is 1280x1024 @V A H K I T I http://fdossena.com/?p=wined3d/index.frag Copy d3d8.dll, libwine.dll and wined3d.dll in the game's executable directory

WineD3D For Windows

DirectX 1-11 to OpenGL wrapper

Eggs (On Toast) 18-May-18 11:03 AM

he y i need help my game is not working

I opened the beta version

and its saying unhandled exception

c0000005

at address: 10021248

and when I click ok it closes the program

just @ me whenever you can

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 12:44 PM

dgvoodoo strikes again...

@Eggs (On Toast) try renaming these files, like put an underscore at the beginning of their names or something https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470639513960451/446851032509710346/unknown.png

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 01:10 PM

the game may or may not work decently without dgvoodoo but you'll at least be better off than not being able to play at all

Eggs (On Toast) 18-May-18 01:11 PM

ok thanks

Wait @UTTER_BODGE where can i find these files?

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 01:13 PM

same folder as the exe

main game folder

Eggs (On Toast) 18-May-18 01:58 PM

@UTTER_BODGE THANKYOU SO MUCH

THE GAME IS FUN AND IM GOING TO TRY THE BETA AND THE ALPHA

Teylgate 18-May-18 01:59 PM

Awwwww ❤️ that's cute

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 02:08 PM

@V A H K I T I we reeaaally need a note somewhere explaining how to disable/remove dgvoodoo (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 02:17 PM

For the time being, I'll just handle things as they come in and I'll pin your post. Cause I'm hoping that by the next patch we can get rid of DGVoodoo entirely

Pinned a message.

LukasExemplar 18-May-18 02:46 PM

I went back through a day, backtracking from Onu-Kini, only to crash, and now the game crashes everytime I load the save.

QuasiFluffle 18-May-18 02:59 PM

Yeah. I had no fix for that when it happened to me. I ended up writing a Batch script that periodically copies my save over to another directory with a time stamp so I could revert a few minutes back if needed. The game seems to only autosave when you transition between areas (aka. whenever the loading screen occurs) (edited)

If anyone wants it, I can share it later. It's far from perfect though and I imagine others could make a more elegant script

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:02 PM

You wrote a script that JMMB already wrote and has been posted in the info channel since the alpha came out?

That's dedication to not reading fam. xP

QuasiFluffle 18-May-18 03:07 PM

Oh nice... I am not a smart man. To be fair, I installed the alpha via instructions on BMP and after that point I overlooked that general compatibility section in the info channel, writing it off as extraneous detail

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 03:08 PM

Ye. I'm mostly just joking around.

Pre sure that info was on BMP though too

QuasiFluffle 18-May-18 03:11 PM

If that's true, then I have no excuse outside of TLDR laziness.

Which is pretty consistent with how I handle most instruction manuals.

JrMasterModelBuilder 18-May-18 04:17 PM

Mine's a python script though.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 05:00 PM

"You just set it and forget it!" Wine D3D Wrapper @@V A H K I T I https://youtu.be/tLq27iOW0R0

Jason E. Stone

Set it and Forget it For Example of Audience Participation

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:17 PM

Hi again guys, back after a week and with the latest patch installed (it did prompt for another install) I still get the same issue as before, but without dgvoodoo I can run the game, just without being able to change any graphics options to my knowledge

Hopefully we can change graphics stuffs without dgvoodoo soon

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:32 PM

Also, when moving dgvoodoo to another folder, none of the cutscenes play, font does not render whatsoever, the fadeout animation between areas doesn't work, and the grappling hook just doesn't work

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:34 PM

You can download the Wine D3D wrapper (edited)

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:34 PM

wait nevermind, font renders

it's just

the text doesn't appear whenever I try talking to a matoran

also wtf is Wine, I have Windows 10

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:35 PM

So what issues do you have? Is it everything that you mentioned above?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:35 PM

yeah

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:35 PM

OK I can tell you how to use a different DirectX wrapper

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:35 PM

Also the mouse graphic doesn't render on the title screen

or on the pause screen

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:36 PM

Yeah same here

The wrapper fixes that (Wine D3D) (edited)

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:37 PM

oh

does that work with windows 10?

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:37 PM

Here it is

Attachment: d3d8.zip (1.27 MB)

Yeah it should

I have tested it with other games before on Win 10 (edited)

Your goal is to make your games directory look like this:

Delete these 3 files from the game's folder first

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:39 PM

yeah, I did that

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:40 PM

Ok good

Try and launch the game

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:40 PM

just drag and drop all that into the folder? sounds good

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:40 PM

Yeah

No configuring required

Except if you want to change the resolution of the game through the bionicle.ini file

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:41 PM

Niiiice

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:42 PM

Did it work?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:43 PM

Trying now

It definitely runs

and the cursor issue is fixed so far

By the way THANK YOU I had no idea Bionicle.ini was where all the debug stuff was

Yesssss this non-blurry resolution is glorious

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:46 PM

Np!

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 08:46 PM

@mrpenguinb "can not open output file : access is denied" on all three of that zip's files.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:46 PM

Hmm...

The next update will include the Wine D3D

So you issue would have gotten fixed, but it is good to test it out on everyone's machines first

What program are you using to open the .zip file? @ScrapMetaru

You don't open the .dll files

You just open the .zip

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 08:48 PM

I'm trying to extract them into the game's folder.

to skip moving them.

I just did it the long way. It worked.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:50 PM

so

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 08:51 PM

Gonna boot now.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:51 PM

The dialogue text still doesn't render

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:51 PM

You don't have the fonts installed then

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:51 PM

and I didn't see the intro cutscene when I made a new game

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:51 PM

You don't see the cutscenes yet

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:51 PM

oh? I had no idea you had to do that

OH OK

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:51 PM

Yeah lol

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:52 PM

uhhh I don't see any .tff files in here that I can actually use? http://puu.sh/AoO2x.png

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:52 PM

Just wait a sec, I will check what fonts you need

Well I forgot

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:54 PM

I'm surprised the game doesn't install them for me

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:54 PM

Extract all the files in here into the fonts folder in the launcher folder

Attachment: ClassicGrotesquePro-ExSBd.zip (113.02 KB)

I think the launcher uses fonts but I don't know if they are for the game or not

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:55 PM

hmm it looks like I already have all those files, now that you mention where the folder is

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:55 PM

I will send you a .zip file of the folder for fonts

Attachment: Fonts.zip (604.73 KB)

Take the contents from the zip and overwrite the font folder

FPS FTW 18-May-18 08:56 PM

Dying on the collapsing cliff on Onua's level causes crashing in the beta

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:57 PM

@SilverDeoxys563 Are you using a VM or something? Bootcamp?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:57 PM

nope

just pure Windows 10

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:57 PM

Good

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:57 PM

well, I upgraded this previously from Windows 8

and I think that allows some specific Windows 98 games that can't typically run on Windows 10 to run

namely, I've tried this with Hot Wheels Stunt Track Driver

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:57 PM

16-bit modes etc

And does it work?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 08:57 PM

yea

idk whether it works on fresh Windows 10 tbh

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 08:58 PM

The latest windows update 1803 causes the launcher to crash for me still... so yeah (edited)

Maybe try this option on the ACTUAL game not the launcher

Those fonts seem fine to be from that screenshot

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:02 PM

I'm trying to take a screenshot of my game with the print screen key and all it's giving me is a white image

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:03 PM

Press Alt + Enter to exit from fullscreen

Then use the snipping tool

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:04 PM

Alt Enter doesn't work

gives me the generic Windows beep noise

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:04 PM

yeah, these three new files break the text.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:05 PM

Really?

Ok

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:05 PM

I never could see dialogue text in the first place kek

BUT I saw some text briefly pop up when I tried to alt-tab back into the window but it turned black again and I "couldn't see it"

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:05 PM

they also made "Will you save our village?" appear on screen until I closed the game.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:05 PM

So maybe there's some graphical issue that has nothing to do with the actual fonts

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:06 PM

so the fonts work.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:06 PM

Do you both have NVIDIA GPU's?

Or are you both using Intel or AMD cards?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:06 PM

http://puu.sh/Alv0F.png

dis.

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:06 PM

a Steam survey said I have AMD.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:08 PM

Ok so that explains half of it probably (edited)

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:08 PM

whaaaat I thought it said AMD cards work

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:08 PM

Go to the control panel in Windows 10 (not settings)

Then go to fonts

See if you can see all the fonts there or not

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:09 PM

I can see all the fonts

but let me reiterate

I'm pretty sure it's not a font issue because I BRIEFLY can see the dialogue text when I refocus the window

But then it turns black again

I'm assuming it goes behind the black bar

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:10 PM

Transparency issue maybe

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:10 PM

I'm gonna agree with that. @mrpenguinb, you really need to stop acting like you have all the answers when, (with all due respect) you really don't have any idea what you're talking about.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:10 PM

LOL

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:11 PM

@SilverDeoxys563 Fill me in. The text issue started when you switched out DGVoodoo for WineD3D right?

It's probably as simple as being a bug related to running the game through an OpenGL wrapper.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:11 PM

No, the issue was always there

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:11 PM

Hm

Well it's not a font issue, I can tell you that right now.

The game doesn't even use standard fonts, and you certainly don't need to install them separately.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:12 PM

Go to Catalyst Control Center. Go to gaming and click the drop down. There should be an option called "Morphological Filtering". Disable it.

That could fix it

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:12 PM

when I refocus the window I can read for a millisecond that Whenua is saying "Have you seen the other Toa yet?"

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:12 PM

Can you run the game without DGVoodoo?

If so, does the issue persist?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:12 PM

I can only run the game without the provided DGVoodoo files present lol

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:13 PM

That might be the issue in itself then.

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:13 PM

I didn't test my issue thoroughly, I'm gonna go to Onua and make sure Macku isn't just broken.

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:13 PM

DGVoodoo is there for a reason after all.

It's not just there to facilitate windowed mode or for shits & giggles.

It actually fixes some issues directly tied to modern hardware.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:14 PM

yeah, but when I try to use dgvoodoo, I get the error message that I reported in the github

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:14 PM

Link me to your report again.

I'll take a look at where it's crashing exactly

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:15 PM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/126

Beta crashes and throws an exception in front of white screen with...

On Windows 10, whenever I try to launch the beta with the patch applied, I get a white window that plays music, my cursor turns invisible, and almost immediately after the window appears, the excep...

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:15 PM

Thank

One sec

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:15 PM

Yeah, Onepu can't talk either.

Must've needed the files I deleted.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:16 PM

@SilverDeoxys563 ~~You are getting an access violation of the d3d8.dll~~ (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:16 PM

Explain how you know this

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:16 PM

Thanks, mrpenguinb.

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:18 PM

Ah in the event log, okay (edited)

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:18 PM

"The error 0xC0000005 is generated by an illegal "memory access violation". This can be caused by anything from faulty RAM, an incorrect/corrupt device driver, poorly written/updated software and malware."

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:18 PM

Dude.

C0000005 in the context of this game, is meaningless

It means it fucking crashed.

That's it

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:19 PM

Wow... whoops

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:19 PM

It gives that error on EVERY crash

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:19 PM

I jump to conclusions too fast

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:19 PM

A lot.

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:19 PM

It fixed enemy speeds though?

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:19 PM

Anyways

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:20 PM

Is it supposed to do that?

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:20 PM

@SilverDeoxys563 I'll get the most up to date version of DGVoodoo for you to try

I'm told that this version has issues that I was previously unaware of

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:21 PM

oh wow I see

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:21 PM

Attachment: D3DImm.dll (99.5 KB)

Attachment: DDraw.dll (124.5 KB)

Attachment: D3D8.dll (181.5 KB)

Resolution aside, your settings should look like this:

If this fails, I would recommend trying older versions of DGVoodoo as well.

2.55 has less problems than 2.54, but IIRC still more than 2.53

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:24 PM

http://puu.sh/AoORV.png

:(

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:25 PM

Well... it's a different crash this time. That's... something different?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:25 PM

Oh, neat

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:25 PM

YOu confirmed the settings match too?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:25 PM

oh let me go do that lol

New address with those settings bois http://puu.sh/AoOVu.png

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:28 PM

Try this???

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:28 PM

Try DGVoodoo 2.53 then

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:29 PM

nope that gives me the same address as the image before the most recent one

where do I find this fabled DGVoodoo 2.53?

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:29 PM

Onepu talks again. I don't if these beach crabs got slower, but they seem reasonable.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:30 PM

Attachment: dgVoodoo2_53.zip (726.46 KB)

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:30 PM

I'm gonna go find a thalli walli.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:32 PM

WHAT THE HELL

IT ACTUALLY WORKS

@V A H K I T I

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:32 PM

Yeah, the Onu Thallis are slower.

The Cool(er) Chronicle 18-May-18 09:32 PM

hooray

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:32 PM

2.53 works?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:32 PM

YES

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:32 PM

Awesome.

I'll put that version in the next patch then

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:32 PM

waitwaitwait

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 09:32 PM

I wanna say rock raiders has something similar, with more recent versions of dgvoodoo not playing as well as older ones (edited)

The Cool(er) Chronicle 18-May-18 09:33 PM

oh no

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:33 PM

I'm having the invisible cursor issues again now

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:33 PM

Are these new files supposed to slow down enemies?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:33 PM

in addition the window randomly resized in fullscreen to the top left corner while the rest of the screen is back to be smaller than the whole screen?

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:33 PM

You might need to reset the resolution in the dgvoodoo config

The Cool(er) Chronicle 18-May-18 09:35 PM

so vahkiti how goes the progress in patching the game?

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:36 PM

Turns out these scorpions have real AI. They back up n' shit.

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:37 PM

@SilverDeoxys563 Just confirmed yeah, you need to redo your DGVoodoo config. It's probably doing the thing it's doing for you cause it's ignoring the newer one.

Make sure to copy the EXE to the installer folder and rename it to dgvoodoocpl.exe

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:38 PM

oh I didn't know what to do with all these files lol

I'll try that and let you know

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:41 PM

@The Cool(er) Chronicle It goes I guess.

You can see our progress as it happens these days in #litestone-dev-archived

Shadowknight unfucked the snowboarding speed in Kopaka's level this afternoon, so that's something.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:43 PM

ok so the game works in windowed but the title screen cursor is invisible outside of file select and I can't see the Onua graphic next to my file

which tells me that I'm probably going to encounter a lot of the same issues I encountered without dgvoodoo present

The Cool(er) Chronicle 18-May-18 09:44 PM

ok i'll go see the dev channel

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:44 PM

Which of course is an issue, and I'm not sure why it only happens for some, however it's better than not running at all.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:44 PM

There we go, here's what the no-text dialogue looks like for ya'll

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:45 PM

Is that still with DGVoodoo 2.53?

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:45 PM

yeah

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:45 PM

Well... at least we solved the crash

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:46 PM

You could select all the fonts in C:\Windows\Fonts and reinstall them I guess

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:46 PM

Dude

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:46 PM

interesting thing to note is that screen fadeout transitions work

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:47 PM

installs malware and blows up the world - me installing fonts (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:47 PM

Did you seriously just tell a guy to reinstall all his fonts because the game that we've already established doesn't use standard fonts isn't showing the text due to an issue we've also already established is not a font issue? xP

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:47 PM

LOJEAufpriwerklajdfjsa;fdjsadiforwaeioru klj I need to sleep and do something else

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:47 PM

Do I have to make a new server rule about making know-it-all technical advise?

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:47 PM

Probably xD

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:48 PM

Boi.

And yeah, the transitions seem to have fixed themselves between alpha and beta

Which is good. One less issue that needs to rely on DGVoodoo to be fixed (edited)

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:49 PM

ohai the grapple works

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:49 PM

Ye.

Grapple issues are apparently tied to the framerate. (edited)

DGVoodoo caps it at 75 which largely alleviates the issue.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:52 PM

there's some planing issues with this halo effect but I doubt it's dgvoodoo's fault

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:52 PM

Oh. I have one more thing for you to try regarding the text.

Set the resolution in the INI back to 640x480.

Due to a side effect of the upscaling patch, the INI only changes the HUD's scale and the game's internal resolution scales with the window regardless

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:53 PM

You can cap the games FPS through AMD Radeon Settings I think (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:53 PM

This will also fix things like the inventory being up to the left hand corner

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:55 PM

You can also check what OpenGL version you have as well with this tool for no reason at all: http://www.realtech-vr.com/support/deeplink.php?SKU=15&target=UrlWin32 (my OpenGL version is 4.4 suposedly) (edited)

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 09:56 PM

@V A H K I T I I think I was mistaken about these files fixing enemy speeds. The enemies seem to just alternate between a jank turbocharge and a strafing, backing up, and shooting based attack pattern

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 09:57 PM

no luck with changing the bionicle.ini resolution to 640x480 sadly

~~LMAO I CAN OUTRUN THE GRAPPLING HOOK~~

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:58 PM

Anyone else @here have an AMD GPU that can/can't run the game properly? (edited)

1

2

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 09:58 PM

I only have an ATI card, should I test the game out on it?

HangryDave 18-May-18 09:58 PM

What's the issue with AMD GPUs?

could it be similar to the Halo Online AMD GPU issue?

Toxic Atom 18-May-18 09:59 PM

nvidia my dude

HangryDave 18-May-18 09:59 PM

if so, you could ask those devs for advice

INACTIVE ACCOUNT 18-May-18 09:59 PM

CyclonatorZ 18-May-18 09:59 PM

I'm AMD. It runs fine for me. I've only played Onua's level so far though.

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:59 PM

Hm

No issues with text like this?

CyclonatorZ 18-May-18 09:59 PM

None.

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 09:59 PM

Odd

CyclonatorZ 18-May-18 10:00 PM

My laptop has a really weird GPU though.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 10:00 PM

Is it an APU? (accelerated processingn unit is my guess)

CyclonatorZ 18-May-18 10:01 PM

2.5 GHz A10-7400P

Turbos up to 3.4 GHz, supposedly.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 10:01 PM

It is an APU apparently (edited)

CyclonatorZ 18-May-18 10:02 PM

They don't even make this particular laptop anymore.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 10:03 PM

AMD A10-Series APU for Laptops

https://products.amd.com/en-ca/search/APU/AMD-A-Series-Processors/AMD-A10-Series-APU-for-Laptops/A10-7400P-with-Radeon%E2%84%A2-R6-Graphics/17

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 10:16 PM

The game crashes if I fall into the deathpits of the pre-Fikou grappel wall and the post-Fikou Huna room.

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 10:17 PM

oh my god how do I grab this one

speaking of that grapple wall.

mrpenguinb 18-May-18 10:20 PM

Look around and find another block

SilverDeoxys563 18-May-18 10:21 PM

this might be more appropriate in #litestone-general

ScrapMetaru 18-May-18 10:32 PM

Is it me or does Kopaka not jump as far as Onua?

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 10:35 PM

nobody's compared toa run speeds/jump heights/etc yet, afaik

it'd be easy to do especially if you whipped up a quick flat test area, maybe with some platforms

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 10:36 PM

Do you wanna make a test level? I've been advocating that for ages

We could really use one with various slopes, materials, objects, etc

UTTER_BODGE 18-May-18 10:36 PM

I want to but I also have to be in a car again at 8 AM tomorrow morning

bleh

V A H K I T I 18-May-18 10:37 PM

rip

rob the corn lover 19-May-18 12:07 AM

the onua is too slow for jumping on rocks

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:53 AM

in what area?

Galgo 19-May-18 12:55 AM

Is the Kopaka level 100% playable without the debug camera or menu?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:56 AM

Don't think so...

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:56 AM

Not enough tokens

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:56 AM

thanks

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:56 AM

WELL may be impossible (don't quote me)

I hate Kopaka's level (edited)

emily (peri) 19-May-18 12:56 AM

its possible

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:56 AM

WELL is 100% possible

I even found a speedrun route for it xD

Galgo 19-May-18 12:57 AM

I mean the area with the stalagmites

emily (peri) 19-May-18 12:57 AM

though i've had it be bugged and thus not possible lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:57 AM

Ah.

That makes sense.

Galgo 19-May-18 12:57 AM

and one grappling hook pad doesn't seem to work

emily (peri) 19-May-18 12:57 AM

you don't need the grapple

just use the kakama for the big jumps

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:57 AM

Still, not enough tokens as far as I know

emily (peri) 19-May-18 12:58 AM

oh wait, are you talking about SWRD or the stalagmite part of CRSS?

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:58 AM

CRSS, if I had to guess. I recognize what he's talking about, I think.

emily (peri) 19-May-18 12:59 AM

both can be done with kakama, but in SWRD you just gotta hop across the ravine and not bother with the platforming (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 02:36 AM

I'm getting the inventory bug in Gali's level

Galgo 19-May-18 04:04 AM

does anyone know if a high quality variant of this exists?

it needs to go against a white background to match the GBA one

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:13 AM

I think there might be..... I can check

Lego Island might have an image like that

@Galgo I can scan an image from a LEGO game's cover art

It is on the cover of LEGO Island, LEGOLAND, LEGO Loco, LEGO Chess and LEGO Creator

It may not be what you want but that is the best that I can give you

There might be a texture of it somewhere in a LEGO game

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Galgo 19-May-18 04:22 AM

thanks, it's just that I'm looking to keep things as high quality as possible which is pretty hard when a lot of the source images are extremely small or old tbh

this is the GBA icon

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:22 AM

You can vectorise images so that they are scaleable in quality

That GBA logo is a prime candidate

Galgo 19-May-18 04:23 AM

the original 2001 website called for the lego disc hand against a white background, but I was unable to find anything

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:23 AM

https://seeklogo.com/vector-logo/59052/game-boy-advance

Game Boy Advance Logo Vector (.EPS) Free Download

Game Boy Advance logo vector. Download free Game Boy Advance vector logo and icons in AI, EPS, CDR, SVG, PNG formats.

Galgo 19-May-18 04:23 AM

ty

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:23 AM

Could you link the website you found?

Galgo 19-May-18 04:23 AM

no I mean the one I'm remaking

sure

http://elastic-jang-8eb7d1.bitballoon.com/

I would like to keep things as authentic as possible, but if I can't find a high quality disc hand thingy I'll be forced to change it

I thought this was a bit dry

alternatively I could use these

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:25 AM

So all you want is cover art for a GBA game?

Galgo 19-May-18 04:25 AM

PC game

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:25 AM

OHH I see now

I will look through my lego club archive

2010-2016

Galgo 19-May-18 04:26 AM

I don't think any logo associated with lego media has been used since the early 2000s

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:30 AM

Yeah. You are right

I can also get the "games" blue ribbon scanned for you

That is a clearer one

Galgo 19-May-18 04:42 AM

thanks!

would you happen to know how to remove the background?

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:43 AM

Maybe.. here is the vector lego logo

Attachment: lego.svg (4.19 KB)

Galgo 19-May-18 04:43 AM

here's the original screenshot

what do you think went on the left?

a scan of the PC boxart?

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:44 AM

Is that the web archive copy?

Possibly... or just a mock/collage of images representing the game

Galgo 19-May-18 04:44 AM

yes

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:45 AM

Woah so the game was advertised on the LEGO.com website?

Galgo 19-May-18 04:46 AM

the bionicle 2001 site, a number of comics, lego media applications, you name it

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:51 AM

There you go

@Galgo

The Shadow Emperor 19-May-18 04:52 AM

Vahkiti's mockup has the correct logo

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 04:53 AM

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Galgo 19-May-18 04:58 AM

that'll werk

mrpenguinb 19-May-18 05:02 AM

The mockup that Vahkiti made is better than the ~~supposed original!~~ (edited)

The sand blends etc with the grey

Galgo 19-May-18 05:05 AM

that wasn't the original, that was a different mockup IIRC

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 09:49 AM

Testing the horn softlock, and I think that it actually has something to do with the grappling hook.

When the grapple returns to your hand in the middle of a horn animation, it returns you to your standing position. However, since the horn animation locks you in place and was never triggered to end, it keeps your controls locked.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 09:50 AM

Could it be possible to just disable the grappling hook when you're within x meters of a horn?

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 09:57 AM

Yep, just confirmed what's going on. It's the hook.

There's a difference between getting the hook via debug and going properly through the level.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 09:58 AM

Well, to get to the horn you need the hook

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 09:58 AM

HK01 shortens the hook's range, which carries into VLLG after you collect the Rau

The hook then lasts just long enough to cancel the horn animation while looking like you finished it. (edited)

The debug menu/getting the grapple in VLGS keeps the max range grappling hook, which is why the softlock doesn't happen.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 10:00 AM

The fix would be to re-lengthen the hook everytime you enter VLLG

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 19-May-18 10:03 AM

@mrpenguinb I made the mockup with the ESRB rating and QR Code. I'm not good at replicating finer details, so I handed it off to @V A H K I T I who along with @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) spruced it up real nice and got it looking as good as I imagine the finished product would have.

(edited)

The boxart @The Shadow Emperor linked is outdated, the super thicc dropshadow was accurate but I recommended sacrificing accuracy for actually looking good. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 10:05 AM

I think you should add another 9 to the 99

there are people who are over 100 years of age who might wanna play this too

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 19-May-18 10:07 AM

The age recommendation is a Lego tradition ~~and if it is changed I will kill somebody.~~ (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 19-May-18 10:13 AM

I agree

I had to remake that from scratch

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 19-May-18 10:15 AM

Is the red background to that supposed to be a Lego brick or did you do that yourself because I like it.

(edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 19-May-18 10:46 AM

It's really supposed to be a Lego brick. I'm not home so I'll try to find an example

I'll get it when i get home

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 19-May-18 10:48 AM

No, I believe you, it's a really obvious design choice I just never noticed.

(edited)

liquidelectricity 19-May-18 11:08 AM

do PrntScrn and Delete keys conflict with eachother? I can never access the debug area/cheat menu and screen capture at the same time. EDIT: nvrmind. figured it out. for some reason nogreencapes got turned back to legotester under cheat in the ini file (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:31 PM

The weak spots on Taniwa and Vatuka-Nui are gray boxes, any fix?

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 12:31 PM

Yep.

Stand by

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:37 PM

ahahahhaahahh

i managed to softlock galis level

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:37 PM

how

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:38 PM

if you defeat taniwa and move before nokama gives you the makoki stone, she never gives it to you and you are free to go around the boss room (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:38 PM

oh

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 12:38 PM

I've seen that too

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:38 PM

ill try it in other levels

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 12:39 PM

what did you think of the texture animations?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:39 PM

Quite good, although mud man is a little too fast

mud is not really flowing that fast

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:39 PM

Is it

?

I didn't think so

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 12:40 PM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dna9qhkke13hkq/textures.blk?dl=0 Also, this goes in data -> characters, and should fix the gears, along with the boss weak points. Additionally, the transparent air elemental textures are here too.

textures.blk

Shared with Dropbox

Here's another rendition of the hyrda textures to test if you'd like

Attachment: hydr.blk (216.54 KB)

made them move a bit faster, and added a vortex effect inside of its arms, explicitly for when it tries sucking you in

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:41 PM

Vortex looks good to me

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 12:42 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:46 PM

Erm... Is this because I left while I was picking up the Makoki Stone?

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 12:49 PM

what in

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:49 PM

leave while picking up onuas makoki stone, and then go to galis level and warp to the boss

btw makoki stone softlock also applies to onua

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 12:50 PM

this game is like the gift that keeps on giving, lol

always something

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-18 12:51 PM

Vatopa-Nui crashes when hp reaches 0

ahahahha

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 12:53 PM

uh

While the new textures.slb takes away the white square

the nex texture still shows that it's a square around the new dot texture (edited)

I'll try and get a clean pic

later

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 01:01 PM

Think I found a remedy for that

@The Cap'm (Reese)

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 01:06 PM

Ok. I'll be home later, but thanks

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 01:06 PM

the Vatuka Nui could use this too, not sure about the ice elemental

emily (peri) 19-May-18 02:19 PM

so someone on bzp wants to know if its possible to load a save from the dev menu in the beta. is it?

V A H K I T I 19-May-18 02:20 PM

No, but I'd like to make it happen.

@Hexadecimal Mantis Can you make that your next priority?

emily (peri) 19-May-18 02:20 PM

alright, thanks, I'll pass that along

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 02:20 PM

@V A H K I T I What you missed was me adding animations to water boi and making Dave transparent

V A H K I T I 19-May-18 02:20 PM

Aight

Hexadecimal Mantis 19-May-18 02:21 PM

Should we just implement the menu from the alpha?

That has the load feature

V A H K I T I 19-May-18 02:21 PM

I mean we could, but I'm not sure the options menu would work at all

Hexadecimal Mantis 19-May-18 02:21 PM

I'll look at it later, busy rn

V A H K I T I 19-May-18 02:21 PM

Not that it really worked before

Aight

ShadowDraikana 19-May-18 02:23 PM

Oh and I trimmed the waek point texture so it looks somewhat better

Bionicle lives on 19-May-18 05:08 PM

When ever I enter the first door on the left in Ga koro it crashes with Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 0034d6d3

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 07:18 PM

Um

Is the illusion created by the Mahiki supposed to have no textures?

emily (peri) 19-May-18 07:19 PM

i get that sometimes aswell

the ga-koro crash, that is

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 07:19 PM

It's all white (edited)

emily (peri) 19-May-18 07:19 PM

in the alpha the illusion is just a transparent version of the toa. so could be some kinda error there

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 07:20 PM

Also, that crash in VLGS happens to me randomly as well.

For the illusion, Lewa's axe is still texutred and his eyes are green, but everything else is white like the broken gear texture

Oh, wait. It's just Lewa.

Tahu's illusion is fine

Why

emily (peri) 19-May-18 07:27 PM

tahu's is broken for me as well. but i guess that's a pretty good indication that its definitely not intentional, haha

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-18 07:28 PM

What a lovely game

Bionicle lives on 19-May-18 08:53 PM

It does unhandled exception if I beat Onua's level from front end

Bashar al-Assad 19-May-18 08:57 PM

if go back into the boss room after you beat the boss in onuas level ur stuck there

The Cool(er) Chronicle 19-May-18 11:10 PM

So is turaga onewa supposed to crash when you talk to him after beating the rahi in the po-koro?

emily (peri) 19-May-18 11:11 PM

not supposed to, but it's a known bug

The Cool(er) Chronicle 19-May-18 11:12 PM

phew, thought it was an error on my machines part. I'm not tech savvy at all

V A H K I T I 19-May-18 11:12 PM

Seems to be Win 10 exclusive

The Cool(er) Chronicle 19-May-18 11:15 PM

that reminds me, @V A H K I T I have the devs figured out how lewas vine swinging physics work? Cause half the time playing in those areas its a hit or miss on swinging to the next vine.

V A H K I T I 19-May-18 11:17 PM

Sort of?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 05:17 AM

If you skip the Lewa meets Tahu cutscene, the cutscene will still play in the background

Bramnet 20-May-18 06:50 AM

Hi, I downloaded Mata Nui as well as applied the patch but the game just opens with a white screen and then closes within a few seconds. I've tried a few troubleshooting tips listed on the website as well.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 06:52 AM

dgvoodoo error maybe?

Bramnet 20-May-18 06:53 AM

possibly. Where would I check for a log of that?

if it leaves a log

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 06:53 AM

😺 Jamesster - Last Friday at 6:44 PM dgvoodoo strikes again... @Eggs (Benedict) try renaming these files, like put an underscore at the beginning of their names or something https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470639513960451/446851032509710346/unknown.png

might fix the problem.

might

Bramnet 20-May-18 06:55 AM

uh, would these files be in the Lego Bionicle folder?

windows couldn't find them, nor a 3rd party file searching program I use.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 06:56 AM

in the "Lego bionicle (beta)" folder

Bramnet 20-May-18 06:56 AM

in the root, the only dll files I see are binkw32, D3dx8cw and ijl15

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 06:58 AM

Bramnet 20-May-18 06:58 AM

...... yep... I'm missing files....

let me try running that patch again.

(I think some things got missed when I copied stuff over)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 06:58 AM

the bug might be because of that

Bramnet 20-May-18 07:00 AM

probably. I assumed the patchb.exe would extract to a new folder inside the target folder (which was downloads cause default is where it's located)... apparently it didn't. (edited)

okay, that's a step forward. now it just crashes when entering a level XD I think I can use the website for the rest of the troubleshooting.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 07:02 AM

You're welcome

Bramnet 20-May-18 07:25 AM

Yes, thank you.

I'd hate to bother anyone further, but I can't get it to load anything past the first menu that pops up. cheat leaves me in a frozen state, front end displays an error, and everything except for draw distance crashes upon finished load time. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 07:33 AM

could you make a video of it?

Bramnet 20-May-18 07:33 AM

sure

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AnzuAlyaZAYDhM8BCtfbWI4q1UpiAw I was mistaken about the issue with cheats, nothing seems to load when I press enter but I was able to go up and down and eventually let me exit.

oh, by the way, if I rename the files you mentioned earlier, I encounter the same problems with it in fullscreen, but I do see water coming into existence in level 1 before crashing. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 07:56 AM

looking into this now, can't guarantee help

It's the alpha backend with the beta fluff file (edited)

"advanced options" = "load save" (edited)

I'm assuming if there is no save to load, the game sh*ts its pants

Bramnet 20-May-18 07:59 AM

yeah, I only now noticed everything on the menu past level 2 (didn't think to check) and level 3 works fine except I can't get the door to open (I assume destroying the stump spawning monsters was the key to open it)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 07:59 AM

You probably mixed up the alpha and beta

Bramnet 20-May-18 07:59 AM

most likely.... time for an uninstall and reinstall.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 07:59 AM

because that's the alpha frontend text

I'm assuming (again) that the game doesn't know what to do in this instance

Bramnet 20-May-18 08:01 AM

most likely. So what would be the install procedure? Install from the .zip file from the site and then run the beta patch directly on the directory?

cause that's what I did... or at least I thought.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 08:02 AM

the normal install procedure is to install the launcher from bit.ly/LegendNoLonger and then click "Play BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui (Beta)"

then download the base game and the patch

Bramnet 20-May-18 08:02 AM

...... uh, bitly showed an error

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 08:03 AM

just visit anyway

Bramnet 20-May-18 08:03 AM

alrighty...

Bramnet 20-May-18 08:51 AM

alright. seems to work now for the most part. Thank you.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 10:02 AM

You're welcome

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 02:00 PM

Okay, so entering GLY3 in Gali's level from WTHK doesn't cancel the sliding physics. That makes it impossible to swim, as you sink to the bottom. Oddly, you're still in the swimming animation, but the physics act as if you're still sliding. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 02:12 PM

I don't think you're supposed to enter GLY3 from WTHK

shouldn't you enter GLY3 from SHRN?

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 02:12 PM

It literally exits there

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 02:12 PM

didn't know about that

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 02:12 PM

SHRN goes to WTHK

WTHK goes to GLY3

Most of the time WTHK crashes on death, so most people just warp in

I tried actually exiting. and that happens

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 02:14 PM

WTHK needs a lot of work regardless.

There are similar issues when backtracking out of TTUN

You'll be left swimming in the air.

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 02:17 PM

Oh joy. Because that map wasn't miserable enough.

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 02:17 PM

Yeah... on the stream I spent a good 15 minutes there and ultimately just warped out.

I'm thinking maybe in the optional patch we'll either redo that map entirely, or put a line of tokens to the correct path

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 02:18 PM

That'd be great.

Also, have you found why the Kaukau doesn't spawn in MWAT?

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 02:19 PM

Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't. Not sure the cause

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 02:19 PM

I've never had it spawn. RIP me

Hmm. The Tarakava seem to use their attack animation in place of their damamge animation.

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 02:26 PM

Tarakava are borked in general too

Deleted User 20-May-18 03:38 PM

how can i fix this?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-May-18 03:40 PM

Is it the "levels render all black" issue?

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 03:40 PM

What did you do before this happened?

Deleted User 20-May-18 03:40 PM

i just installed the game

what should i do?

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 03:43 PM

Hmm. This was supposedly patched in the 1.0 update.

Did you patch the game through the launcher?

Deleted User 20-May-18 03:44 PM

yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 03:44 PM

Hmm

Try going into the game's files whre you installed it

There should be a file called bionicle.ini

Edit the SvpRad value to = 1

Deleted User 20-May-18 03:48 PM

it didnt work (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 03:48 PM

Hmm

What kind of computer are you using?

Deleted User 20-May-18 03:48 PM

HP laptop

625

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 03:48 PM

Windows version, that is. Sorry

Deleted User 20-May-18 03:49 PM

windows 7 64 bit

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 03:49 PM

Alright, that isn't the problem then

@V A H K I T I Got any idea what's going on here? Seems to be the Levels Render All Black issue again

Deleted User 20-May-18 03:52 PM

ill reinstall the game

i think my anti virus deleted something (edited)

Deleted User 20-May-18 04:01 PM

Everything works

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 04:02 PM

Good

Galgo 20-May-18 04:06 PM

You have to replace the exe don't you? @Deleted User (edited)

Deleted User 20-May-18 04:22 PM

@Galgo ?

Galgo 20-May-18 04:23 PM

post a picture of your LOMN directory

Deleted User 20-May-18 04:31 PM

Benderman115 20-May-18 05:11 PM

@V A H K I T I could you help me boot the game today lol

Benderman115 20-May-18 05:50 PM

@V A H K I T I hey so i boot the game and i get to this

@Founding Friends

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-May-18 05:55 PM

Launcher?

Benderman115 20-May-18 05:55 PM

ye

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-May-18 05:55 PM

Hold on let me look at something

64bit or 32bit?

Benderman115 20-May-18 05:56 PM

i have a 64 bit computer

did i download the wrong launcher

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-May-18 05:57 PM

no no

Alpha or Beta?

Benderman115 20-May-18 05:57 PM

alpha

i have windows 10

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-May-18 05:58 PM

Create an empty .txt file, name it "versions" move it to C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle

Benderman115 20-May-18 05:58 PM

ok ill try quick

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-May-18 05:59 PM

Good luck!

Benderman115 20-May-18 06:00 PM

ok imm a try it quick

Galgo 20-May-18 06:56 PM

What are some areas that ocnsistantly crash the game?

section three of the Kane-Ra ride does it for me

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-May-18 07:15 PM

As in crash upon loading?

PTOS (the third Kane-Ra map) is the only one that consistently crashes on entry that I know of, and that's becuase of a cutscene error when dismounting the Kane-Ra

Warping in normally loads the map with no problem

Benderman115 20-May-18 07:25 PM

@Founding Friends

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-May-18 07:26 PM

oh, name the text file "version" not "versions" my bad

Benderman115 20-May-18 07:27 PM

ah

imma try it now

just asked for a new alpha patch is that good @deleted-role

sorry @😺 QSKSw (Josie)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-May-18 07:30 PM

yeah do it

Benderman115 20-May-18 07:49 PM

same prob

@😺 QSKSw (Josie)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 20-May-18 07:50 PM

uh

@V A H K I T I What do?

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 07:51 PM

Downgrade the DGVoodoo install to 2.53 and try that. DGVoodooSetup.exe will have to be renamed to DGVoodooCPL.exe and placed in the launcher folder. Other than that, take and use this config file since your current one will no longer work:

Attachment: dgVoodoo.conf (138 B)

I'll just send the rest of the files too, may as well.

Attachment: DDraw.dll (86 KB)

Attachment: D3D8.dll (138.5 KB)

Attachment: D3DImm.dll (86.5 KB)

Attachment: dgVoodoocpl.exe (99 KB)

Benderman115 20-May-18 07:52 PM

where am i putting them

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 07:53 PM

The DLLs and config go in the beta folder, and I already told you where to put the EXE.

Benderman115 20-May-18 07:56 PM

i was trying to do the alpha build

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 07:56 PM

Well then put the same files in the alpha directory

Doens't matter

Benderman115 20-May-18 07:57 PM

allright

@V A H K I T I you say to "Downgrade the DGVoodoo install to 2.53 and try that. DGVoodooSetup.exe will have to be renamed to DGVoodooCPL.exe and placed in the launcher folder. " does that mean to just put it in the folder and replace the old one

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 08:00 PM

The exe, yes

Benderman115 20-May-18 08:01 PM

allright i popped it in lets give this a whirl

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 08:02 PM

I really wish you would stop pinging people for every other message. I can read my dude.

Benderman115 20-May-18 08:02 PM

sorry

i wont do it again

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 08:03 PM

Anyways if the downgrade isn't helping, Idk what to tell you. Have you had issues with the alpha before now, or is this your first time trying to run it?

Benderman115 20-May-18 08:03 PM

first time running lol

V A H K I T I 20-May-18 08:03 PM

Can you run the beta fine or is it just the alpha giving you trouble?

Benderman115 20-May-18 08:04 PM

was thinkin same thing imma try now

allright downloading beta now

FPS FTW 21-May-18 05:45 PM

Dying to the water in the room after the Huna room crashes the game

ShadowDraikana 21-May-18 05:48 PM

Sometimes

FPS FTW 21-May-18 05:49 PM

Just did for me

ShadowDraikana 21-May-18 05:52 PM

It happens pretty randomly in there for me

Bologna Lives On 21-May-18 06:18 PM

If you guys would like to check the beaverposting segment it's really funny now

Bologna Lives On 21-May-18 07:02 PM

I'm not sure if this happens on 64 bit or windows 8.1,7,10 etc but every time I fall in kopaka's makuta segment it crashes. (edited)

Deleted User 22-May-18 12:50 AM

Not getting out of through the bubble quick enough crashed it (edited)

ShadowDraikana 22-May-18 02:22 PM

can anyone confirm if the grapple box in CRSS of Kopaka's level does not function?

V A H K I T I 22-May-18 02:22 PM

I think @UTTER_BODGE did

ShadowDraikana 22-May-18 02:23 PM

Might be able to fix that.

ShadowDraikana 22-May-18 02:32 PM

Confirmed something is up with mask rooms

after collecting the Mahiki, backtracking into CAVE after leaving results in a shut down. Same is true for TA12 in Tahu's level. After collecting the Vahi, leaving and then returning to TA12 results in a shutdown (edited)

FPS FTW 22-May-18 06:40 PM

Going into the room after beating the Nui Jaga causes constant crashing

Natr 22-May-18 07:50 PM

So grappling in the water as gali in makuta's room crashes

Philosophy101 22-May-18 11:33 PM

Natr 22-May-18 11:52 PM

Exactly

Deleted User 23-May-18 03:22 AM

On THE really freaking annoying vision falling platform part of Kopaka's level it crashed with an unhandled exception when I made it through the door.

Casia 23-May-18 05:13 AM

I get the same problem as in the picture above when running the beta on my windows 8 computer

On windows 10 it doesn't even open, just flashes briefly

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 01:53 PM

How does one look at the crash adress?

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 01:53 PM

as in?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 01:53 PM

unhandled exception at adress x

how do i get to adress x

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 01:54 PM

any particular ones you're looking into?

ask JMMB or Vahkiti; I don't have IDA

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 01:54 PM

My crash adress is005e8670

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 01:58 PM

where did this take place?

as in what were you doing when it occurred?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:00 PM

I used atom to partially translate the game's fluff file into german. Then I renamed the files from XXX_eng to XXX_ger, compiled lang_ger.blk, went to the frontend, clicked Options, then Language and when I clicked German the game crashed

and then the game crashed on startup because the language is written into the ini file

Luckily I know how to edit it

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:01 PM

It's crashing because the language file was edited incorrectly

that's what happens when an offset is messed up usually

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:01 PM

I keep telling you not to do this shit right now cause it's not gonna be used

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:02 PM

I didn't tell him to do it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:02 PM

@V A H K I T I Practice makes perfect

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:02 PM

Boi.

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:02 PM

But still, the menu can at least be translated

if we don't plan on screwing with it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:02 PM

so it has to be the same size?

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:02 PM

No

Send me your file

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:03 PM

Before that I might as well translate the whole fluff file

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:03 PM

Might be able to figure out what's causing the issue

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:03 PM

but ok

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:04 PM

oh there's probably a big reason why it crashed

specail characters

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:04 PM

Fluff file partially translated, all others still in english

Attachment: lang_ger.zip (24.73 KB)

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:04 PM

that's something else I didn't think about

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:04 PM

I'll try replacing all the ¨

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:05 PM

well there's the problem the slb has been garbled

whatever you put it through destroyed it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:05 PM

wait what

when I opened it in wordpad it was perfectly ok

and wordpad would've had a bunch of question marks there if it was garbled

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:06 PM

:|

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:06 PM

I see it now

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:06 PM

You.. you can't edit this shit in wordpad

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:06 PM

I EDITED IT IN ATOM

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:06 PM

Wtf is atom? xD

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:06 PM

a text editor

I only have it for KerboScript

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:07 PM

That's.. not any different

Natr 23-May-18 02:08 PM

^overused emote

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:08 PM

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:09 PM

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:09 PM

well this is a new one

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:09 PM

The fuck did you do

xD

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:09 PM

my question exactly

alt tabbing did it

Deleted User 23-May-18 02:10 PM

WELL THAT WAS INTERESTING! I open inventory on Tahu's boss and it froze with text saying "He may look small but he's as strong as" at the bottom and teleporting to shrine still had that message up and soft locked after the cutscene with a black screen except for the text.

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:10 PM

yeah I dunno why that text gets displayed like that

also I FIGURED OUT WHAT MAKES THE BOIS DANCE

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:11 PM

Ay

Natr 23-May-18 02:11 PM

Today, I'm going to beat Onua's level, I see very few problems but there are some

G-Bond 23-May-18 02:11 PM

Deleted User 23-May-18 02:11 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xczDd2_X0DI

chefmkt

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic - Fluttershy cheer

yay

yay

That really is great though.

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:12 PM

the conversation slbs actually play a bigger role in this than I thought (edited)

Deleted User 23-May-18 02:13 PM

glad mah dancy bois are returning

BRB

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:13 PM

don't get your hopes up yet

I can't get the actual game function to work in the subroutine like it's supposed to in the beta

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:14 PM

A meme about my situation

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:15 PM

just wait for @Hexadecimal Mantis to finish his editor. Otherwise, I can teach how to edit the stringtables

be prepared to suffer though

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:18 PM

I think I have something

The problem with the garbling is that Atom's default font doesn't support these characters. I'll try to change that font

ShadowDraikana 23-May-18 02:20 PM

it didn't just garble the text it garbled the whole file. changing the font won't change anything

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:20 PM

I don't think you understand my dude. No text editor can edit these.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:20 PM

ok

well I tried.png

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:21 PM

You need to use a hex editor at the very least. :P

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 02:21 PM

it didn't look like the whole thing was garbled, ok?

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 02:21 PM

Doesn't matter if it looks like it or not. Text editors will always try and format and encode the file in some way or another

Natr 23-May-18 02:46 PM

Don't use the grappling hook on unstable ground

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 03:37 PM

>implying editing stringtable slbs is hard

Also. My tool is not an editor, its a generator

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 03:40 PM

Well, just pm me when it's done, ok?

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 03:41 PM

Its not user friendly. No gui or anything like that

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 03:41 PM

I can handle that

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 03:41 PM

Aight. I already have one program public on the repo

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 03:41 PM

I've made games where you need to type in 3 and hit enter to move left

is this it? https://github.com/HexadecimalMantis0e/SLB-Tools

HexadecimalMantis0e/SLB-Tools

SLB-Tools - Misc tools for LoMN SLB files

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 03:46 PM

You can adjust the soundtable dump program to work with any stringtable slb

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-May-18 03:46 PM

?

I'll go to sleep now, could you PM me the instructions on how to use it?

thanks in advance

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 23-May-18 10:41 PM

Attachment: This_batch_file_creates_blank_versiontxt_files_if_they_arent_there.bat (2.18 KB)

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 10:43 PM

LegendNolauncher does that

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 23-May-18 10:50 PM

what

oh you made a thing

why does everybody

wait

@ShadowDraikana

Hex made a thing

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 10:52 PM

Its not the coveted slb editor

its just an alternative to the launcher

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 23-May-18 10:53 PM

ShadowKnight was on about not being able to play the game without Liam's launcher earlier

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 10:55 PM

oh rly?

hmmmmmmmmmmm

Well this doesn't launch the game (Hence why its called legendnolauncher) it just downloads the patch and can check for updates

via version.txt

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 11:01 PM

I am home now

Finna work on LE04 s'more.

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 11:09 PM

Oh @Hexadecimal Mantis, did you ever find anything regarding Lewa's jump sounds?

You said you were looking into that a while ago.

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 11:09 PM

I never got around to it

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 11:09 PM

Rip

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 11:10 PM

I've kind of shifted my focus to whats left of shoefitter

To see if I can get something working

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 11:10 PM

I thought you said the code was dead?

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 11:11 PM

the more I look at the osi, the less dead it seems. I am still skeptical though, not sure if there are functions that need to be in the exe or not

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 11:16 PM

Hmmm

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 11:37 PM

are the images used in shoefitter missing?

V A H K I T I 23-May-18 11:40 PM

Doesn't seem like it. Why?

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-May-18 11:42 PM

Its hard to tell if i'm actually launching it or not

Deleted User 24-May-18 12:12 AM

Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 0055ff98 When entering Poahatu's boss from normal sequential room Windows 8 32 bit When boss starts not just on entering room

ShadowDraikana 24-May-18 02:48 PM

@Hexadecimal Mantis Actually the images for it are present in the art blk

Deleted User 24-May-18 02:57 PM

I'm sure everyone knows but it seems kind of priority to do something about how in Tahu's level with the boulder chase if it hits you it crashes and you're too slow to even outrun it.

ShadowDraikana 24-May-18 02:58 PM

you know I actually was looking into that and got sidetracked

Thanks for the reminder

If this operates like the other slides, getting Tahu to speed up should be possible

slowing the boulder down however is a different story

wait it's crashing when it hits you?

Deleted User 24-May-18 02:59 PM

It's fun fast Tahu should just be able to outrun it with the possibility of getting run over.

ShadowDraikana 24-May-18 03:00 PM

that's what those shortcuts should be for

Deleted User 24-May-18 03:00 PM

Yes if you don't move when it's rolling down at you

if it hits while moving at least on 32 bit windows 8

Deleted User 25-May-18 10:10 AM

I gave all of the Tohunga their items in Onu Koro and wanted to see it in my inventory and opening my inventory softlocked it with text at the bottom saying "Though he looks small, he's as though as"

A lot of times that I've gone in Gahli's grappling hook room it crashes with Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 01b3d6d3 Not always but usually seems to be triggered by clearing the rahi hives first so the matoran show up.

Deleted User 25-May-18 10:40 AM

In Gahli's level Disc Goil doesn't give you your reward,the horns always get me stuck in place not just doing them in the wrong order,and The mask of water didn't show up and while trying to find it I was on a bubble shooting a Takea shark and got Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 1000c320

Deleted User 25-May-18 11:05 AM

In Pohatu's second bullride section falling in water changes your physics and makes it unplayable due to floating

emily (peri) 25-May-18 02:17 PM

The problem with the Gali horns is related to the grapple, equip it in the debug menu and it will shoot further, allowing you to play the horns without getting trapped

ShadowDraikana 25-May-18 02:20 PM

The water bug was my fault and fixed literally on the first day after release (edited)

Fatal PP 26-May-18 02:53 AM

Can someone plz help me? I open tge launcher and try to start the beta but after I click to play the beta on the launcher all I get is a white screen that says Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 0052e5d9

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-May-18 02:54 AM

Are you sure you have the patches?

Fatal PP 26-May-18 02:56 AM

I think so but how do I know that I do?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 26-May-18 02:56 AM

Is there a dancing matoran on it?

Fatal PP 26-May-18 02:56 AM

Yea

There is

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 26-May-18 02:57 AM

When you start the game, you need to say "Yes" when it asks you to install the patches.

It's probably going to ask multiple times over and over again until it's all caught up.

@V A H K I T I Why does the launcher only install patches one at a time?

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:01 AM

So I open the launcher then click play right? But it doesn't ask me anything like "yes" so I can download the patch it just takes me to a white screen saying Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 0052e5d9

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 26-May-18 03:04 AM

okay, you're missing some text files, download this file and run it and it'll just create the files for you.

Attachment: This_batch_file_creates_blank_versiontxt_files_if_they_arent_there.bat (2.18 KB)

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:05 AM

Ok thank you

I'll let you know if it works

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:14 AM

ok so I used the thing you gave me but when I open the launcher and open the beta it tells me there is a new patch so I download the patch and I still get a white screen with the same message

mrpenguinb 26-May-18 03:16 AM

Then try and insert the text files again

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:18 AM

I did but it does the same thong this over and over again it is like an endless rotation, I insert the text files but it tells me there is a new patch, I get the patch I try to play and still the same message

mrpenguinb 26-May-18 03:18 AM

Oh....

Ok

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:19 AM

yea so like I fr don't know what to do

mrpenguinb 26-May-18 03:19 AM

here is a solution I have

C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle (Beta) Go there

after applying the patch make a new blank text file MANUALLY called versionbeta.txt

in that directory

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:20 AM

okay I'll try that

mrpenguinb 26-May-18 03:20 AM

Like apply the patch through the launcher

not the batch file

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:20 AM

k

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 26-May-18 03:22 AM

Good to know my batch files doesn't work; I feel useful.

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:58 AM

ok so I go in there there is already a text file named versionbeta

all it says is 1.0

idk whats going on

UTTER_BODGE 26-May-18 12:43 PM

look at my pinned post about removing dgvoodoo

that error has nothing to do with the launcher or version txt files, dunno why folks were suggesting stuff like that...

there's another version of dgvoodoo that works better but I don't recall which it is, for now you can just disable it as described in the pinned post

Fatal PP 26-May-18 02:42 PM

How would I find your pinned post?

UTTER_BODGE 26-May-18 02:43 PM

Fatal PP 26-May-18 02:47 PM

Thank you

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:01 PM

I got it to work

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:30 PM

I got the game to run but the only problem now is that when I talk to someone no text pops up

Deleted User 26-May-18 03:31 PM

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:37 PM

so what do I do now

Deleted User 26-May-18 03:38 PM

I've never had problems like that maybe ask around for help from people who understand the file formats.

UTTER_BODGE 26-May-18 03:42 PM

you'd install the version of dgvoodoo that works properly, whichever that is

I don't recall which though, you'd probably have to ask liam or someone else

Fatal PP 26-May-18 03:45 PM

ok

Frieza the jewish landlord 26-May-18 06:27 PM

Hey can someone help me. trying to play i cant get a full screen. When i play around with the og voodoo configue nothing changes. I wouldnt mind playing in a windowed from but it cuts off the bottom of the game. If some one can help thanks

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-May-18 06:28 PM

The only way I know that fullscreens is Alt+Enter.

Frieza the jewish landlord 26-May-18 06:28 PM

ok

thank you

Fatal PP 26-May-18 09:04 PM

okay so I am still not getting any text when I try to talk to anyone

I updated dgvoodoo but the problem still persists

Fatal PP 26-May-18 10:02 PM

anyone?

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-May-18 10:04 PM

I think that might have something to do with dgvoodoo. Don't quote me on that

emily (peri) 26-May-18 10:25 PM

yeah sounds familiar. tell me, does alt-tabbing out of the game and then back make the text show up?

Fatal PP 26-May-18 10:26 PM

lemme check

no even if I alt-tab no text shows up

emily (peri) 26-May-18 10:28 PM

hm, ok then. I guess its not the same issue as the one I was having

Fatal PP 26-May-18 10:30 PM

oh thanks tho

ShadowDraikana 27-May-18 03:02 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) You said there's a bad spawn point in PZZL right?

Dying respawn seems fine

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-18 03:24 PM

I noted how it worked in my GitHub issue. If you move back as soon as you respawn, you'll fall off the map instead of transitioning to ATRM.

ShadowDraikana 27-May-18 03:25 PM

Hmm

It warped me back to ATRM

for some reason the spawn is further back for you it seems?

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-18 03:25 PM

Weird. It's consistent for me.

I even tested it this morning in my ill fated attempts to beat Onua's level without it crashing in L1A7

ShadowDraikana 27-May-18 03:27 PM

So it only does it when respawning after death?

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-18 03:27 PM

Yes

ShadowDraikana 27-May-18 03:28 PM

also L1A7 has issues. @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Can't even get onto the first platform before it crashes

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-18 03:28 PM

Oh geez

ShadowDraikana 27-May-18 03:28 PM

I've had random crashes on the last pltform a LOT as well, but they seem to be random

and that bat tho

how the fuck can it see you

annoying little thing

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-18 03:29 PM

Not sure. It doesn't see me after it ran from me once. It only happens on first notice

ShadowDraikana 27-May-18 03:29 PM

this game is something else...

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-18 03:30 PM

I'll be back later. Gotta drive home.

ShadowDraikana 27-May-18 03:30 PM

stay safe

Frieza the jewish landlord 27-May-18 03:53 PM

i think i found a bug when i go into front end to get save files. When i press inventory the game frezes. It is in the beta version of the game. I want to look in my inventory for a grappleing hook. Thank you

ShadowDraikana 27-May-18 03:58 PM

Grappling hooks are not displayed in the inventory

the inventory also locks up on occasion at random

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-May-18 04:16 PM

Yea it's super shitty

Without fail too

I sent the crash message to shadow awhile ago

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-18 04:50 PM

For @ShadowDraikana when he gets back here: https://youtu.be/dyYrjICnv24

robot54312

LoMN Onua PZZL Respawn Bug

For clarification that this is an actual bug.

Just wanted to show that this bug is a thing (sorry for the Bandicam, it's all I've got). (edited)

It seems to only happen when the Rahi kill you.

mrpenguinb 27-May-18 11:43 PM

dw the bandicam makes it look like leaked e3 footage lol

Deleted User 27-May-18 11:45 PM

We are proud to announce lego bionicle LOMN at this event.

I would have gone if this ever really was at E3.

emily (peri) 28-May-18 12:06 AM

it was in 01!

Deleted User 28-May-18 12:22 AM

I know it would sorta be physically impossible to got to something like that back then for me anyway.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-May-18 12:03 PM

Sequence break in Gali's MTUP EDIT: It's actually an out-of-bounds trick (edited)

I'm on top of the world!

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-May-18 12:42 PM

Is that a sequence break? All you have to do in that map is leave. You still need to go to STRT

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-May-18 12:42 PM

oh yeah sry

Deleted User 28-May-18 01:13 PM

Dragon ball Gahli she is flying.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-May-18 01:13 PM

Kek

If anyone is wondering how I find those: It's super easy. I look at a point on the map and ask myself: I wonder if I could get there?

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-May-18 01:14 PM

So, the Xenoblade Chronicles mentality? (edited)

Deleted User 28-May-18 01:14 PM

Lol I used to do that all the time and thought I was discovering unused levels by out of bounds ing.

Like Oh you can stand here they must have wanted to extend the game this way. (edited)

UTTER_BODGE 28-May-18 02:34 PM

Sequence break in Gali's MTUP EDIT: It's actually an out-of-bounds trick

it's not even supposed to be a playable area

they (other folks patching the game) just added it because they could (edited)

but the devs didn't intend for you to explore it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-May-18 02:34 PM

Yeah....

wait is the mtup crash fixed?

UTTER_BODGE 28-May-18 02:35 PM

yeah, there were two lights with the same name

causes issues when unloading the map

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-May-18 02:35 PM

ah. I missed that one. Can you send me the new file pls?

UTTER_BODGE 28-May-18 02:35 PM

I'm not up to date

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-May-18 02:36 PM

Oh.

Frieza the jewish landlord 28-May-18 06:02 PM

game just crashed onuas level after the part on the clif were you graple. ented a door way game just flat out crashed

Frieza the jewish landlord 28-May-18 07:41 PM

got pasted it

have another glich report

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-May-18 07:43 PM

What is it?

Frieza the jewish landlord 28-May-18 08:30 PM

in onuas level there is a a big room with a temple like structure. with the turaga. If i try and enter the big tunnle my game crashes. even restarting it it still kep crashing

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-May-18 08:30 PM

That's a known bug about re entering the CAVE map. (edited)

Teylgate 29-May-18 05:46 AM

I installed lomn on my new pc, but when I installed the beta it's just crashing when it opens with an unhandled exception

Deleted User 29-May-18 08:26 AM

The game started for me but it was just black

Other than the menus and the hud

mrpenguinb 29-May-18 08:41 AM

Could be the version of the dgvoodoo2 wrapper

That might be causing issues for you Benersan

Deleted User 29-May-18 08:44 AM

The what?

mrpenguinb 29-May-18 08:47 AM

Nvm, other people can help you out. I dont have time to explain right now.

Frieza the jewish landlord 29-May-18 11:15 AM

Is there a way to fix the re entering cave map bug

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-May-18 11:15 AM

Why would you want to reenter CAVE?

am I missing something?

Frieza the jewish landlord 29-May-18 11:18 AM

I was still playing around and i was playing on the front end save.

I like having a save file

I was also lost trying to figure out what to do

Teylgate 29-May-18 01:11 PM

Anyone able to help me??

V A H K I T I 29-May-18 01:15 PM

What's up? Gotta get ready to go out soon, but let me know the issue.

Teylgate 29-May-18 01:37 PM

I installed lomn on my new pc, but when I installed the beta it's just crashing when it opens with an unhandled exception

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 29-May-18 04:06 PM

Launcher or no Launcher?

Teylgate 29-May-18 04:06 PM

Launcher

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 29-May-18 04:12 PM

Is there a versionbeta.txt in the Program Files?

C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle (Beta)

Teylgate 29-May-18 04:38 PM

I'll check tomorrow. Its getting super late here.

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 29-May-18 04:40 PM

Deleted User 29-May-18 07:52 PM

Game crashes every time I fall out of bounds. Happens on Onua and Gali so far, idk if it's applicable to other toa yet. Unless this is a known bug, in which case, sorry for wasting your time

"fall out of bounds" as in going too low and dying

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-May-18 07:52 PM

known issue

Deleted User 29-May-18 07:52 PM

okay

Teylgate 30-May-18 01:53 PM

@😺 QSKSw (Josie) it's there alright

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 30-May-18 02:00 PM

ok how bout this

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:01 PM

Whenever I click it just stops responding

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 30-May-18 02:02 PM

what

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:02 PM

Yeah

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 30-May-18 02:02 PM

@Team Litestone

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-18 02:02 PM

Why was I summoned?

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:02 PM

I click configure DGVoodoo and it just stops responding

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 30-May-18 02:03 PM

yeah that sounds different idk what to do with that

Deleted User 30-May-18 02:05 PM

@Teylgate have you tried manually editing dgVoodoo?

2Tie 30-May-18 02:05 PM

Deleted User 30-May-18 02:05 PM

@Teylgate do you know where the game files are?

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:08 PM

Kind of.

And I haven't the slightest clue how.

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:09 PM

Oi @benji, you wanna work on the launcher today to finally nip these issues in the ass?

Omega12 30-May-18 02:10 PM

Run voodoo as admin

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:10 PM

Unnecessary

The launcher does that on its own

Cause any program launched by a program running as admin by default is apparently also run in kind.

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:17 PM

So what should I do?

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:23 PM

YOu say DGVoodoo itself stops responding?

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:24 PM

No, the launcher

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:24 PM

Never heard of that happening before. Does it launch DGVoodoo, or just freeze when you hit the button?

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:25 PM

Just freezes :/

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:25 PM

And it doesn't on your other pc?

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:29 PM

No, it very much doesn't.

If it helps, my old was a satellite pc and my new is a satellite Pro

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:29 PM

Idk what to suggest honestly. .-.

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:30 PM

The alpha USED to work on my old pc, then it stopped when I updated to 0.10

That's happening now :/

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:35 PM

.-.

When clicking configure?

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:36 PM

Yea

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:37 PM

Okay, check the launcher folder, is the DGVoodoo exe there?

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:38 PM

Which is that?

Where is it?m

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:42 PM

C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle Launcher

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:46 PM

I'll check now

Tis not

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:47 PM

How is that not there? xD

Did your antivirus kill it or something?

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:47 PM

No, I'd have seen it if it had

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:48 PM

The fuck, well that explains it. .-.

Attachment: dgVoodooCpl.exe (146 KB)

Just drop that in there I guess

There's no way it wasn't included in the installer, so your PC beefed something there.

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:50 PM

Alright, thanos

Thanks* XD

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 02:50 PM

LOL

Teylgate 30-May-18 02:51 PM

XD

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:16 PM

Alright, put it in there and it's still not working :/

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:30 PM

@V A H K I T I it keeps quarantining it, even when I recover the file xp

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 03:30 PM

Yeah I figured your antivirus was fucking with it.

What IS your AV anyways?

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:30 PM

Mcafee

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 03:30 PM

Oof

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:31 PM

Yeah, I know.

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 03:31 PM

Friend you're practically one step above Norton, ditch that shit like.. yesterday. xD (edited)

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:32 PM

Cant; my dad won't let me get rid of it because it's 'safe'

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 03:32 PM

Bullshit.

Your dad is a moron

xD

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:32 PM

Yeah

Yeah*

What can I do?

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 03:33 PM

Idk does mcaffee have an exclusion list?

Otherwise there isn't anything short of giving your dad a smack upside the head for using the world's second most shitty antivirus. xP

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:35 PM

I'll have a look

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:43 PM

@V A H K I T I I DID THE DO

And I'm still getting unhandled exceptions

But DGvoodoo is opened!!

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 03:44 PM

.-.

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:45 PM

I'm assuming you wanna see the settings?

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 03:52 PM

Idk what to tell you, I can't help you without knowing what the exceptions are dingus. xD

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:56 PM

@V A H K I T I there xD

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 03:57 PM

Oh in game exceptions. Uh... idk. .-.

Teylgate 30-May-18 03:59 PM

;-;

V A H K I T I 30-May-18 04:00 PM

You might wanna ask @JrMasterModelBuilder about this one

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:04 PM

@JrMasterModelBuilder halp pls xD

JrMasterModelBuilder 30-May-18 04:07 PM

I'm away from my laptop, can't lookup exceptions till later.

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:07 PM

Is disable and passthru to DX checked in the direct x tab?

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:08 PM

@ShadowDraikana on DGVoodoo?

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:09 PM

yeah

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:09 PM

I'll take a looksies uwu

It wasnt

It is now (edited)

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:11 PM

that most likely will do it

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:12 PM

Nops

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:12 PM

re you launching from the launcher?

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:12 PM

Yea

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:13 PM

Find the directory where you installed it

the game, not the launcher

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:13 PM

Okaya

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:14 PM

is dgvoodoo in there too?

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:14 PM

Yeah, and nope, same error

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:14 PM

also are you running the alpha or the beta?

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:14 PM

Beta

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:15 PM

is the disable and passthru stuff checked in dgvoodoo there as well?

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:16 PM

Its in the launcher folder

Not the beta folder

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:19 PM

aight, so did you run it straight from the bionicle exe?

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:21 PM

Yeah

Still getting the same exception

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:21 PM

so it's something unrelated.

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:21 PM

Yea

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:22 PM

what OS do you have?

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:22 PM

Windows 10

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:22 PM

I wonder if maybe, just maybe the win10 patch wasn't installed

I'm trying to exhaust every possibility

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:38 PM

Where could I get that?

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:39 PM

Rename your old Lego Bionicle.exe and try this one

Attachment: LEGO_Bionicle.exe (5.89 MB)

just to rule this out

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:39 PM

Alright

@ShadowDraikana same error.

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:46 PM

exact same exception?

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:46 PM

Yeah.

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:46 PM

well that's been ruled out

lack of win10 patch

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:47 PM

What do you think it could be?

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:48 PM

Just to rule out something else, you could try installing a fresh copy somewhere else and apply the patches manually to see if the same thing happens

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:49 PM

Yeah

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:49 PM

Had a similar problem with the alpha until I reinstalled it

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:49 PM

Alright

To the same location or a different one?

ShadowDraikana 30-May-18 04:50 PM

different one

don't use the launcher if possible

Teylgate 30-May-18 04:51 PM

Kay

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 05:02 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) Fixed the clf1 death sfx issue

Osi was pointing to that Toa Kaita sound instead of falltodeath

Based on what I did here, I can add this sound effect into other areas with killboxes

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 05:08 PM

nice

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 05:10 PM

Posted materials for testing in #litestone-dev-archived

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:08 PM

Looks like I'm late to the party here. Been pretty busy today, I'm sorry.

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:08 PM

no worries

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:17 PM

Well...is there anything I can do?

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:17 PM

Test what I posted

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:18 PM

Okay. No problem.

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:18 PM

I also fixed my own mess with the music in some areas

Tahu's shrine is screwed up still because I was an idiot

All Makuta areas have music now though

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:19 PM

It is? I didn't notice anything in SHRN

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:19 PM

and I left a little something in each of them, and in Kopaka's STRT

enjoy

(hint: watch the masks)

And yeah, it's screwed up after you vacate the shrine

I didn't code in proper stops so it keeps playing underneath everything

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:20 PM

oh god that night vision noise is jarring after it being silent before

The timer make noise

and I can't switch masks

Well, I start with the masks I'm supposed to

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:21 PM

wh

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:21 PM

but I can't switch

and the HUD graphic is still wrong

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:22 PM

that's a different issue, which I have an idea on how to fix

the switch thing? that's totally new

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:23 PM

Figured it out

I can't switch as onua

But I can as Gali

Ergo

It initializes masks

Ecept for givning the great masks

I can't type

Wai

no

Gali has all hers

so

...what is this

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:25 PM

Yeah Onua starts out with none because he by default starts as none, but... doesn't explain the others

I'll have to give him the ruru and Huna right off the bat

OH

there's a bug with this

I cannot put the Hau on Tahu's face

game flips out, strips it off his face, and puts the Pakari on

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:26 PM

oof

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:26 PM

So I put the Vahi on his mug instead

it's actually useful in this area btw

that and the miru

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:27 PM

Well, the miru still breaks that room

Even with the alterations

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:27 PM

breaks?

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:27 PM

I can still make it to the exit in two jumps

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:28 PM

Well shit

Could just move some of the geometry around to negate that

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:31 PM

All the energy ball graphics are still tahu's

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:32 PM

might be fixable

the music work ok though?

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:33 PM

Works like a dream from what I can tell

They are all supposed to have the same music, right?

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:36 PM

at least that's what I think

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-18 06:36 PM

Then yes

Also, I think the inventory screen needs some tweaking

It doesn't show that the toa you're playing as has their stone

ShadowDraikana 31-May-18 06:40 PM

The only way to test this is to get the Fire Elemental killable so we can try the transition out

not going to mess with this until then

Glitchipedia 01-Jun-18 05:22 PM

I'm experiencing a bug in the alpha that I think is preventing me from advancing in Onua's level. Near the entrance of the Nui-Jaga cave, there's a dirt wall that I think I'm supposed to dig through, but the program crashes every time I try.

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Jun-18 05:25 PM

Known bug.

Glitchipedia 01-Jun-18 05:28 PM

Okay. Is there another route I can take in the meantime?

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Jun-18 05:29 PM

You'll need to use the debug camera to warp into the cage with the Matoran in the back of the room.

Glitchipedia 01-Jun-18 05:29 PM

Debug camera?

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Jun-18 05:29 PM

Press 0 on the numpad

You'll be able to fly around freely

Then press / to spawn the character wherever you are

Glitchipedia 01-Jun-18 05:30 PM

Cool, thanks.

V A H K I T I 02-Jun-18 02:35 AM

Copied from #litestone-dev-archived for posterity's sake: Apparently if you grapple any of the platforms out of order in Onua's HK01, the game will randomly decide to kill you for some reason. Not really a priority, but all the same, once major issues are dealt with, we might wanna get @ShadowDraikana to take a gander at this one.

(edited)

Attachment: 2018-06-02_02-27-44.mp4 (9.53 MB)

My best guess is that considering this level has different elevations for bottomless pits, and it was the host of the game's most infamous bug, that the area has a killbox that moves with the player, and it doesn't know how to recalculate when the expected sequence is broken. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 10:40 AM

I was going to say the code for this area looks like it needs some help, so I'll look into that laterf

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 02-Jun-18 12:11 PM

@Team Litestone Is somebody able to help @Matoro with their on-going issues?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:13 PM

What's the malfunction?

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:15 PM

I set up the game, with all the reccomendations (windows xp filter, edit the text file, update drivers) and only the UI will show up while I'm playing. The game runs, but I can't see anything (edited)

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:16 PM

wait are you running as an admin?

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:16 PM

Yes

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:16 PM

What kind of system is this?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 02-Jun-18 12:16 PM

That sounds like an old bug but doing all that should fix it. Odd.

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:16 PM

I wonder if the exe didn't get patched

are we talking about the alpha or beta?

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:17 PM

It could be my card, I'm using a gt630 keplar edition

To my knowledge, I'm running beta

Omega12 02-Jun-18 12:17 PM

Did you configure voodoo?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:17 PM

^

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:17 PM

How do I do that? (edited)

Omega12 02-Jun-18 12:19 PM

I don't know how to from the launcher, only from the directory itself

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 02-Jun-18 12:20 PM

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:20 PM

Don't do it that way. Chances are it won't configure the dgvoodoo in the game's directory

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 02-Jun-18 12:20 PM

wtf

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:21 PM

IF it does what I think it does

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 02-Jun-18 12:21 PM

@V A H K I T I Why??? (edited)

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:22 PM

It installs a separate dgvoodoo at least for me in the launcher directory. if dgvoodoo has been installed by a previous patch, it won't work right because it's configuring the wrong dgvoodoo

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:22 PM

Game looks like this

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:22 PM

Go into the Lego Bionicle directory or wherever the game is

Teylgate 02-Jun-18 12:23 PM

Lucky- mine doesn't even start

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:23 PM

Okay

Now what?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:24 PM

Is there a dgvoodoocpl.exe in there

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:25 PM

No

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:25 PM

Did you install the game through the launcher?

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:26 PM

Yes

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:26 PM

alright, open the launcher and configure dgvoodoo from there

Omega12 02-Jun-18 12:27 PM

Dgvoodoo doesn't need to be I the directory iirc

But it does have to be pointed to the bonk. Exe

So open voodoo from the launcher

And hit add under the config folder

And point it to Lego bionicle. Exe

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:28 PM

I have to reinstall the launchet first

Omega12 02-Jun-18 12:28 PM

Kk

Am I wrong about repointing it? Could have sworn its pointed to the exe

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:30 PM

Is this it? (edited)

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:31 PM

yeah that's the launcher

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:31 PM

What settings do I use for it?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:31 PM

open the dgvoodoo tab and screenshot what it has currently

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:32 PM

Now what?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:36 PM

show me the glide and directx tabs as well

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:37 PM

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:41 PM

I was under the impression DGVoodoo was to be pointed to the Bionicle exe too @Omega12

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:42 PM

What settings do I configure?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:42 PM

in the path tab up top, add the folder where the LegoBionicle.exe is

click add first

then locate the folder where the game is, and hit select folder

hit ok then try running the game again

if that doesn't work you'll need someone who knows more about dgvoodoo than I do, or we'll need to try something else entirely

wait a sec, what does the modified date say on the exe? (edited)

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:44 PM

Which one?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:44 PM

LegoBionicle.exe

or whatever

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:44 PM

May 14th 2018

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:45 PM

Matoro 02-Jun-18 12:48 PM

Who knows what configurations need to be chanhed in dgVoodoo?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 12:49 PM

I'm not sure this is something that can be fixed by DGVoodoo as it looks kind of like the svprad thing is broken again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470639513960451/451484780219858945/LEGO_Bionicle.exe Long shot; rename the current bionicle.exe and put this in its place

Matoro 02-Jun-18 01:22 PM

Thanks, game seems to be working properly now

1

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 01:23 PM

So that was it

did you try downloading the patch through the installer?

because if you did it sounds like it beefed the exe patch

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:10 PM

why is the water slide in Gali's level so broken

also why does the ruru make a sound now?

neat touch

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:10 PM

That's my baby

Soundtable edit + osi shenanigans

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:11 PM

-Lack of proper killboxes -Bad design -Broken physics

to name a few things (edited)

WTHK is misery through and through

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

I really don't like gali's level

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

I vote to burn it with fire

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

I vote to replace it with GLY1

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

the only cool part is the underwater bit in the temple

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

It's already a living hell

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

GLY3 is cool

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

oh god the temple

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

if a bit empty

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:12 PM

that place needs work...

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:13 PM

I mean, I think it'd probably be a good idea to remove the map entirely

the slide one I mean

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:13 PM

YES

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:13 PM

AGREED

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:13 PM

^^^^^^^

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:13 PM

I'm normally all for preservation, but I really don't see any positives to leaving it in whatsoever

all it does is essentially halt progression for your average player

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:13 PM

I seriously thing GLY1 would be better. Heck, you could put the printing element where the glyph used to be

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:14 PM

printing element?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:14 PM

Also WTHK breaks the physics too

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:14 PM

There's supposed to be an item in every level that unlocks a printable instruction

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:14 PM

and I haven't figured out why yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:14 PM

But only Tahu's is in game

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:14 PM

which part is WTHK

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:14 PM

the slide

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:14 PM

The slide

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:15 PM

of doom

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:15 PM

with gali?

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:15 PM

yes

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:15 PM

yeah

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:15 PM

tahu seems to control better on them for some reason

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:15 PM

When it comes to the physics breaking (from WTHK to GLY3) it just doesn't turn off the sliding mode.

That makes Gali stick to the ground (edited)

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:16 PM

I noticed that

also are nest supposed to respawn everytime you reenter a room?

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:16 PM

not sure

I know that it's the sliding physics because if you warp to dry land, you reenter the sliding animation

to close that quickly (edited)

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:17 PM

nest respawning should be a no no

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:17 PM

Tell that to Tahu

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:18 PM

I need to look into that too.

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:18 PM

By the way, I have a theory that the Bridge lever was supposed to be like the Gate Stone from the alpha

as in required for progression

It would make sense as to why Ta-Koro has no enemy hives

emily (peri) 02-Jun-18 02:19 PM

the dialogue with the quest-giver for the lever says that the bridge is stuck up

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:20 PM

ye

emily (peri) 02-Jun-18 02:20 PM

but that does make more sense, maybe a concept from earlier than the alpha that they just didn't get around to

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:20 PM

Well

There goes that theory

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:20 PM

why is the gate stone in the area where you get the hook in the beta

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:20 PM

Becuase Saffire.

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:21 PM

you cant even pick it up

its just there

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:21 PM

Wait, yes you can

It's in VLLG

not VLGS

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:21 PM

in the beta you cant

let me go take a picture give me a sec

or min

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:22 PM

Yeah, I'd like to see what you're talking about

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:22 PM

you can (edited)

sorry I had to alt tab out of the game and clicked capslock

incidentally does anyone else have the issue where alt tabbing out causes the game to display wierdl?

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:23 PM

I have that too

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:24 PM

so to what level does the "most broken" award go to?

I vote either gali in first, tahu in second, and kopaka in third

wait lewa's is pretty bad too

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:24 PM

Gali, Kopaka, Tahu.

Lewa's isn't too bad

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:25 PM

huh it's almost like the game wasn't finished or something

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:25 PM

Bad killboxes is the main issue

emily (peri) 02-Jun-18 02:25 PM

Lewa's is the most frustrating to play for me, so I'll go with that

Metroidwave 02-Jun-18 02:25 PM

The vines....

emily (peri) 02-Jun-18 02:25 PM

brooken viiiiines

Metroidwave 02-Jun-18 02:25 PM

Some of 'em need you to jump at the mid-point of the jump. Some at the end.

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:25 PM

they were unspeakably worse in the alpha

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:25 PM

True

But most of the level still works

Metroidwave 02-Jun-18 02:26 PM

But in the alpha, the Miru eventually let you just cheese your way past 'em

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:26 PM

Kopaka is just utter garbage (edited)

VISN is just non-functional

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:26 PM

I really don't like anything about kopaka's level, especially the aesthetic

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:26 PM

and WELL is just straight up bad

Metroidwave 02-Jun-18 02:27 PM

The tokens in TELE taunt me...

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:27 PM

Onua>Pohatu>Kopaka=Gali>Tahu>Lewa

Metroidwave 02-Jun-18 02:27 PM

And the Element of Melting, just out of reach...

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:27 PM

@G-Bond

Metroidwave 02-Jun-18 02:27 PM

This game is hell on my completionist mindset

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:28 PM

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:28 PM

well then again to be fair it IS incomplete (edited)

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:28 PM

ok

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:28 PM

Onua>Pohatu>Gali=Lewa>>>>>Tahu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kopaka

Metroidwave 02-Jun-18 02:28 PM

And yet it's still better than many allegedly "Complete" games

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:29 PM

i wong it isnt in the area i said

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:29 PM

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:29 PM

but

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:29 PM

this model is in the game right

emily (peri) 02-Jun-18 02:29 PM

in the alpha I think

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:29 PM

is the map?

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jun-18 02:30 PM

I think that's an early ATRM

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:30 PM

considering that we have two pics of the same map, I'd bet this is from the first stable version of the game

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:30 PM

it is in the area were you use the hook. the area with kapura in it

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:32 PM

not to mention that it seems to be completely flatshaded

unreleated but google really ruined google images

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:34 PM

how?

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:34 PM

navigation is more cumbersome

probably to cater to tablet users

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:35 PM

ya i started to notice alot of websites are changeing to be moble friendly

Galgo 02-Jun-18 02:35 PM

ironically my website doesn't play nice with phones at all

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:36 PM

yet they have there own app for there website

(edited)

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:57 PM

this is what i ment about the gate stone

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:57 PM

yeah it may have been intended to be there. that explains the active one in Ga-Koro

G-Bond 02-Jun-18 02:57 PM

ah

ShadowDraikana 02-Jun-18 02:57 PM

which is clearly a placeholder

Galgo 02-Jun-18 05:05 PM

why don't screen wipes work all the time?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 02-Jun-18 07:38 PM

because dust is composed of many tiny particles of different materials that aren't always going to react identically to the cleaning fluid in the wipes and sometimes going to be slightly harder or easier to clean depending on the will of the universe. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Jun-18 02:36 PM

Don't know if this is already on the bug tracker...

justframbo 05-Jun-18 01:09 PM

you can never complete

step 1: step 1: step 1: step 1: step 1: step 1

The Shadow Emperor 05-Jun-18 01:32 PM

it would be pretty sweet if we could add instructions for the game-exclusive Rahi to the gallery

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-18 01:33 PM

I thought we would do that with the secret printing elements

Metroidwave 05-Jun-18 01:33 PM

I imagine the issue is making those instructions

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-18 01:33 PM

LDD

Metroidwave 05-Jun-18 01:34 PM

If the models didn't omit some elements, I'd have more hope

Galgo 05-Jun-18 06:18 PM

why does the stone elemental crash the game?

ShadowDraikana 05-Jun-18 06:19 PM

Good question

It also damages itself when it hits you with a boulder, has no collision (it's a problem for the whole level to be clear), crashes when you try shooting at it other than at point blank range, and crashes when you try using the stone rain glyph.

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-18 06:20 PM

Are there any comments in the OSI for it like PTOS had?

ShadowDraikana 05-Jun-18 06:22 PM

there's a fair bit of debug code there

some of it related to the player and "rockman" reset state

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-18 06:23 PM

GET EQUIPPED WITH

MAKOKI STONE

ShadowDraikana 05-Jun-18 06:24 PM

I've been looking at that to see if I can get the completion music fixed at least

might just do a wholesale gut job of the code and see what I can do

--- Question: has anyone noticed a problem with some rooms containing masks causing shutdowns upon reentry?

notably TA12

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-18 06:33 PM

I never atempted it

Galgo 05-Jun-18 10:53 PM

can anyone link the latest base.osi and the files it needs?

omegalucas 06-Jun-18 01:37 PM

Is the text on Tukoati-Nui blue on purpose? It's hard to read

ShadowDraikana 06-Jun-18 01:38 PM

Probably a placeholder

since the first three bosses use white text

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 09-Jun-18 06:58 PM

I walked back through the door after defeating the Fikou-Nui and now I can't get back through. Any way to get back without restarting my file?

Protokuta 10-Jun-18 01:32 PM

Debug camera?

ShadowDraikana 11-Jun-18 05:28 PM

Can anyone here confirm if starting a new game from the front end crashes for them upon trying to exit from BUGS in Onua's level?

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Jun-18 05:28 PM

It does not, last I tried

ShadowDraikana 11-Jun-18 05:28 PM

Then crashes when trying to load the game from there.

ShadowDraikana 15-Jun-18 02:16 PM

Anyone here using Win8?

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 15-Jun-18 02:28 PM

No

I have 7

Kaytorahk 16-Jun-18 12:51 AM

I was for a bit

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 16-Jun-18 10:53 AM

10

rob the corn lover 21-Jun-18 12:55 PM

i found a bug in a game beta

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Jun-18 12:55 PM

Read bug list before posting bugs please

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:20 AM

Anyone reported the bug where the alpha menu has gird outlines on the image?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jun-18 08:20 AM

?

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:20 AM

Where the alpha main menu image has outlines on it

Square shaped outlines on the screen like a grid only on the bionicle title and mask

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jun-18 08:21 AM

Send screenshot

Galgo 22-Jun-18 08:22 AM

I’ve seen that

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:22 AM

Does that happen to you?

Galgo 22-Jun-18 08:22 AM

Yes

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:22 AM

Have you got a fix?

Galgo 22-Jun-18 08:22 AM

It’s not a big deal

I don’t think the dev team is very focused on the alpha right now

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jun-18 08:23 AM

Support for the alpha has been completely dropped

We're maybe going to revisit it after the final beta patch

like graphical things and some of the beta bugfixes

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:24 AM

that

Galgo 22-Jun-18 08:24 AM

When is the next beta path?

Yeah

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:24 AM

but i dont really care about

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jun-18 08:24 AM

It should release by the start of july

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:24 AM

its a alpha what'd you expect

Galgo 22-Jun-18 08:24 AM

It’s gonna be a big one right?

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:24 AM

i heard theres optional patches

you can download

Galgo 22-Jun-18 08:25 AM

Does the patch include the takaras?

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:25 AM

that give the models a better look

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jun-18 08:25 AM

Yeah a main/optional patch branch

Takara are optional patch

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:25 AM

where do you download the optional patches?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jun-18 08:25 AM

It's not out yet

Napsterdude 22-Jun-18 08:26 AM

Oh

omegalucas 22-Jun-18 09:31 AM

It's gonna come out next patch I believe. There's gonna come a time when the beta support iteslf will be dropped and the optional branch will become the main version

And there are plans of porting to the BMoP engine when nothing more can be done with the original engine

You can only do so much without source code

Galgo 22-Jun-18 10:16 AM

What exactly can you port to BMoP besides models, sound files, and art assets?

omegalucas 22-Jun-18 10:42 AM

Just what you listed, and that's if they figure out how the hell is animation handled

They can rebuild the physics based on the original engine but that can't be done by simple port I think (edited)

Ditto for the gameplay

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:23 AM

I know I'm way late here, but I'm finally trying to get the beta up and running on my Windows 7 machine. I installed the launcher from the page on BMP and ran it, but it when I try to run it, it crashes immediately. Is that normal? When it was first installed, the screen with a canister on a beach showed up, but that doesn't happen anymore.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:23 AM

It should definetly show the canister on the beach...

I could just give you the launcher if you want

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:24 AM

I downloaded the launcher from here: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/the-legend-of-mata-nui/

JrMasterModelBuilder

The Legend of Mata Nui | BioMedia Project

Preserving BIONICLE media for past, current, and future BIONICLE fans.

Would it be a different version?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:26 AM

Well what you're experiencing is a problem with the installer, not the launcher

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:26 AM

Problem signature: Problem Event Name: CLR20r3 Problem Signature 01: 0JZG2LVN00FS2P0ZXQXCVRYTLOY3BMIP Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0 Problem Signature 03: 5af749c7 Problem Signature 04: BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui Launcher Problem Signature 05: 1.0.0.0 Problem Signature 06: 5af749c7 Problem Signature 07: 5e Problem Signature 08: bf Problem Signature 09: System.InvalidOperationException OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:26 AM

And it's definetly something that hasn't been shown before

I'm sorry, I can't tell you where the problem is but I can just give you the launcher directly

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:28 AM

It does appear that the installer installed the launcher correctly. I have the launcher executable and everything else present in Program Files. The problem is when I try to run the launcher executable.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:29 AM

wait what?

k I'm so confused

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:29 AM

The canister screen was part of the installer, right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:30 AM

yes

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:31 AM

Here's my directory structure

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:31 AM

That should work

This is what the launcher should look like

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:31 AM

The LEGO Bionicle dirs don't contain anything expect version text files

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:31 AM

yeah

don't delete them

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:31 AM

*except

Yeah I definitely have never seen that pop up before, the program just crashes instantly.

Are there any more details I can give you that would help?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:37 AM

Try to download this, unzip it and run the launcher exe https://www.dropbox.com/s/7c6m4f0m8ic0vey/Launcher.zip?dl=0 If it gives you a prompt to update the launcher, click yes.

Launcher.zip

Shared with Dropbox

It's the very first version of the launcher

Planetperson 25-Jun-18 03:41 AM

Same thing, it crashes immediately.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 03:46 AM

I'll give you the 1.0 version of the beta.

It's gonna take a while though

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-18 04:19 AM

@Planetperson Here is the patched beta: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlVgs8PygKvOgeBI8xO1q7pJ7IsYIg

LoMN_Beta_1_0.zip

Compressed (zipped) Folder

Galgo 26-Jun-18 06:41 AM

That’s not the new patch right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jun-18 06:59 AM

It’s 1.0

Napsterdude 26-Jun-18 09:19 AM

Pretty sure 1.0 is the only patch that came out for the beta

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jun-18 09:25 AM

@Napsterdude That's correct.

Napsterdude 26-Jun-18 09:25 AM

Yeah

How many are there for alpha?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jun-18 09:26 AM

I think 7 but I only have 2 of these builds.

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jun-18 09:26 AM

We haven't even dropped the latest alpha patch

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jun-18 09:26 AM

That one will come after the final beta patch, right?

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jun-18 09:27 AM

Not sure. It was supposed to be released with the beta, but it never happened

Napsterdude 26-Jun-18 09:27 AM

What version is the alpha labelled without patches? (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jun-18 09:27 AM

Alpha 0.006

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jun-18 09:27 AM

0.006

Napsterdude 26-Jun-18 09:27 AM

Isnt that a patch version tho?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jun-18 09:28 AM

yeah

Napsterdude 26-Jun-18 09:28 AM

v0.006

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jun-18 09:28 AM

the latest beta patch rn is 0.007

Napsterdude 26-Jun-18 09:28 AM

Ok

Also where does it say in the files that it is 0.006?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jun-18 09:28 AM

the ftp log

101.07.23 15:01 B S:\Brent\Alphav0.006\DATA\ART\footprint.tga --> ftp.saffire.com /Builds/PC Retail/alpha/Alphav0.006/DATA/ART footprint.tga 101.07.23 15:01 B S:\Brent\Alphav0.006\DATA\ART\shadow0000.TGA --> ftp.saffire.com /Builds/PC Retail/alpha/Alphav0.006/DATA/ART shadow0000.TGA

Napsterdude 26-Jun-18 09:29 AM

Oh

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:12 PM

Is anyone able to test if the dialogue after Kopaka's boss crashes after beating Pohatu's boss (GitHub issue #140)?

I'm not sure of it's just a Win8 problem, and if it isn't, it's another unavoidable crash.

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:16 PM

I streamed the whole game at launch so if it happened consistently across OSs, it would have then.

Which is odd, cause MOST issues that are OS specific seem to cross between Win 8 and 10.

I've never seen anything Win 8 specific.

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:17 PM

Did you go from Vatopa to Kokuru without any crashes?

It's got to be one straight run

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:18 PM

Kopaka's level is the most stable of the bunch compared to its state in the alpha, so I don't think I would have crashed.

Though considering the issues that "beating" Vatopa Nui causes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was related to that. Do you know whether or not it's consistent?

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:19 PM

It is

I tried multiple times, and even from Frontend once

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:20 PM

Do you have any other systems you can test it on?

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:20 PM

Not anymore, unfortunately.

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:20 PM

Rip

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:25 PM

You crashed at 2:32:32 in Kopaka's level

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:25 PM

Oh rip

Curious. Woud you mind getting the crash address of that if you haven't already?

I want to see if it's related to the Win 8/10 Onewa conversation crash.

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:30 PM

I'll be a minute. Hold on

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:30 PM

Aight

I assume btw that you can trigger it by just warping from a to b to c?

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:30 PM

Yep

Otherwise this would be hell

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:31 PM

Okay that makes it much easier to test then

Yeah

I'll give it a go on my system while you're at it.

SGFDAJDFDF

I just got lucky on stream that I managed to kill Vatopa Nui without dying myself.

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:35 PM

Yeah, he's a sweetie.

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:35 PM

Cause you have to be close enough to him that the splash damage from his own attack also hits him, but not so close that you'll miss the platforms underneath him when the ground falls away

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:35 PM

As long as the rock hits you, it hits him

Pro strats

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:35 PM

IF you're close enough.

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:36 PM

Nah

Works from pretty far away for me

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:36 PM

WHAT THE SHIT

Well

This boss somehow just got EVEN MORE BROKEN then

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:37 PM

Yep

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:38 PM

OOF

And it doesn't play the kopaka intro after either

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:38 PM

Nope

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:41 PM

Aight

COnfirmed

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:41 PM

00488e03

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:41 PM

Kek

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:42 PM

Got it at the same time

Well, now that should be the last unavoidable crash. In theory.

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:43 PM

GAME

GAME YOU FOKIN WOT

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:43 PM

?

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:43 PM

NOW I CAN'T GET ONEWA TO CRASH

WHEN DID WE FIX THAT?

HOW DID WE FIX THAT?

WOT

This game's fuckin gaslighting me again.

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:44 PM

I've been confused similarly to that recently. Kopaka's PATH platform has only run for me (apparently), and now it's going on and off working and not

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:45 PM

.-.

Well... at the very least this crash isn't a game breaking one.

it's consistent, but it doesn't fuck your save.

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:47 PM

Too bad saving is fucked right now...

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:47 PM

I mean it works, it just doesn't playback cutscenes properly

Areas that are only MEANT to play cutscenes don't have proper spawn points set

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:48 PM

It also screws up character switch

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:48 PM

Which is why you drop into the void

That much will be fixed on the next patch

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:48 PM

Ah

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:48 PM

But I'd really like to find out what's up with GCSaver

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:48 PM

https://youtu.be/WAFEa-t1S1E This platform, by the way. Does it move for you?

robot54312

LoMN Kopaka's PATH Platform

For the #lomn-dev chat in the Beaverhouse Discord Server.

Nobody else has seen this, apparently.

V A H K I T I 26-Jun-18 09:52 PM

Not only does it not move, but now I'm stuck inside of it. xP

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 09:53 PM

There's that. It's also inconsistent.

(Getting stuck also happens in CRSS)

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Jun-18 11:30 PM

I'll make a post on the GH page about it in a few moments

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-Jun-18 12:01 AM

Can I use the above image in my GitHub post to show the clipping issue, @V A H K I T I ?

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 01:57 PM

Wait what Onewa no longer crashes?

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 01:57 PM

Apparently

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 01:57 PM

Can anyone confirm that

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 01:57 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) I mean sure

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 01:57 PM

I never even touched Onewa in like a month

and I sure as hell never modified anything that would potentially fix that

UNLESS the code that freezes him in place was the problem

I wonder if he would crash for you again if you reimplemented the code that froze him in his hut

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:01 PM

No clue

But whatever. One less crash to deal with if it can be confirmed

Even if it was avoidable, it was consistent

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 27-Jun-18 02:03 PM

Remind me in like 10 minutes I have to continue translating

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:04 PM

Aight. If you're doing Dutch translation, I may as well add you to the team role.

Aaaand done.

Welcome to Litestone

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 27-Jun-18 02:04 PM

Oh

Nice

Thank you

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:04 PM

:3

So far you and Ondrik are our only translators, so it's nice to have you on.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 27-Jun-18 02:05 PM

Eyy

we need more though

cause to only have two names in the credits as translators is weird imo

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:05 PM

We need a localization manager too

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 27-Jun-18 02:06 PM

A what?

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:06 PM

Somebody to compile the translations into the game I assume

And manage the translation branch of the team

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:06 PM

^

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 27-Jun-18 02:07 PM

The only language I know is dutch and english

if I'd know german I might be able to translate that too

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:08 PM

I can speak german and slovak fluently. It's already covered @𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:08 PM

Noice

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:08 PM

Guess I need to update the credits

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 27-Jun-18 02:08 PM

Alright

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:08 PM

I MIGHT be able to contact some people for Swedish if we get to that, but no guarantees

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:08 PM

We need to figure out how the engine handles characters first

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:09 PM

Ye

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:09 PM

My brother is learning Korean but considering how the characters work...

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:09 PM

forget it with this engine

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 27-Jun-18 02:09 PM

lol

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:09 PM

Well that pretty much just requires reverse engineering the fots

Which according to the instructional files in the alpha, are just proprietary archives of TGA files

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:09 PM

oh great

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:09 PM

So like Minecraft?

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:10 PM

Pretty much

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:10 PM

where would the Localization section go in the credits

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:11 PM

I'd say under Promotional Video Production

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:12 PM

I mean let's focus on actually localizing anything first

Then put it in the credits.

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:12 PM

I didn't say I was going to do it, I want to know how to set it up so I can just insert and be done with it when the time comes

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 27-Jun-18 02:12 PM

I only need to finish translating the sentences

though

V A H K I T I 27-Jun-18 02:12 PM

I should also remind you guys that effort into actual implementation of translations probably won't happen until everything else is done.

Especially considering a lot of dialogue is still subject to change

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:13 PM

Well, áéíóŕúýčďľňšťžäôound! became this:

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:13 PM

I tried to tell you that before

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:13 PM

I know (edited)

I wanted to know HOW messed up it is

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:14 PM

The game uses codes for stuff like apostrophes when it actually doesn't need to, and has a code for ... in sentences

so there's gotta be a way to get a code list out of this thing

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:18 PM

Luckily neither Slovak nor German desperately need diacritical marks

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:19 PM

French however is a different story. @darkeluim

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:20 PM

Yeah.

I know that

ShadowDraikana 27-Jun-18 02:20 PM

same for Spanish

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 02:20 PM

I can't count the times where 1 diacritical mark in French has f*cked me over on tests.

darkeluim 27-Jun-18 03:26 PM

yes very different story

btw i'm starting again with fluff file

i will do a first vers and then second one improved

translating from french to english is mutch easier

than english to french (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Jun-18 03:30 PM

Well, I think if you're doing translations then you should also be a part of the team. But that's just my opinion.

darkeluim 27-Jun-18 03:32 PM

well i'm not that active and involed in the project considering i am a simple french translator , so It is okay the way it is now but if i can eventualy be part of the team i wouldn't say no XD (edited)

omegalucas 27-Jun-18 03:57 PM

I might be able to help if you're interested in having European Portuguese as an option. But only after November (edited)

darkeluim 04-Jul-18 11:43 AM

Avast is blocking update via the launcher , how can i add it to the exception , do i just need to add the whole game folder to the exceptions?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Jul-18 11:43 AM

that should work

darkeluim 04-Jul-18 11:43 AM

ok

not working...

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 04-Jul-18 11:46 AM

+poke @darkeluim

lel

darkeluim 04-Jul-18 11:47 AM

mabe this as already bean solved

argh

you got me

damn you

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 04-Jul-18 11:47 AM

lol

darkeluim 04-Jul-18 11:48 AM

apparently this "issue" as not been reported yet

sometimes avast is working too well

Metroidwave 04-Jul-18 04:26 PM

So, i tried to reinstall the beta, but now it won't run. It says that a .txt file is missing when I try.

ScrapMetaru 04-Jul-18 06:22 PM

If Avast gives you shit just disable it for ten minutes every time you go to run or update the game. It's what I do. (edited)

darkeluim 06-Jul-18 04:29 AM

^thx

V A H K I T I 06-Jul-18 04:30 AM

Yeah I have issues with Avast too.

Adding the folder seemed to have fixed it for me.

darkeluim 06-Jul-18 04:33 AM

well i did it but then he blocked it without warning me but disable avast works fine so i think i will do that

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:19 PM

@Playtesters Can anyone confirm if this is no longer an issue in the beta?

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/53

Occasionally when swimming up against geometry as Gali, you can cl...

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:20 PM

I haven't experienced it, which is why I'm curious

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:20 PM

Checking now, don't worry

Doesn't happen

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:23 PM

I haven't been having it happen either. Was there a room that this happened in in particular?

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:24 PM

IIRC it was a thing that just happened sometimes

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:25 PM

The camera likes to get stuck on ceilings in tight passages, but there's been no out-of-bounds travel

Is it known why the Kaukau doesn't show up in MWAT? IIRC, it was in Liam R's video (edited)

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:27 PM

i haven't looked into it that much

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:27 PM

I checked the issue tracker and the issue isn't there, but it's happening to me.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:28 PM

That's technically a softlock, then

MWAT is locked until you get it

I'll go ahead and make an issue for it, I suppose

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:28 PM

is it consistent because it does show up sometimes

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:28 PM

Does it?

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:28 PM

yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:28 PM

I've never seen it once

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:28 PM

i've gotten it before

but more often than not it fails to show

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:29 PM

That should still be in the Issues, though

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:29 PM

actually if it's utilizing the same thing as the villages i can easily set up an attack script

but yes it needs to be an issue

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:30 PM

It shows in the deepbrick build so you must've beefed something

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:30 PM

i didn't touch that area in the osi, only the models

and slbs

no waigt the only slb i messed with was the sound

and the only model i touched... was the kaukau

stand by let me try something

don't overwrite your current blk; this is the original

Attachment: mwat.blk (411.11 KB)

see if it still fails to show

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:34 PM

One moment. My computer's being a shit.

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:34 PM

Join the club.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:36 PM

works

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:37 PM

...Where is it supposed to be?

The big middle pillar, right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:37 PM

yup

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:37 PM

Well, it's not there

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:37 PM

with the thing Nate sent?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:37 PM

I'll try doing it again

Ye

Nope, nothing. The room crashes when quitting, though

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:40 PM

now try it with the version you had prior to the blk i sent @Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:40 PM

k

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:41 PM

i'm suspecting it's once again how the osi is handling on win8

which explains why that one platform moves for you @The Cap'm (Reese)

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:41 PM

Moves occasionally

Sometimes it (and the ones in CRSS) decide to just...not

Also, backtracking from MWAT to TTUN puts you underwater

As in swimming in midair

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:44 PM

doesn't work

@ShadowDraikana

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:45 PM

consistently

or did you do it once

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:45 PM

once

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:45 PM

try it a few times; same with the blk i posted here and let's see what the results are

because it's sounding like the model

or at partially while robot's end of it is the osi

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:46 PM

I tried about three times, no dice

I even tried reloading MWAT (thus why I found the TTUN thing), but it just isn't there

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:47 PM

2nd try: doesn't work

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:47 PM

so for you @The Cap'm (Reese) it's showing up 0% of the time

with both blks

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:47 PM

Mmhm.

I wonder why this item in particular isn't showing up

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:48 PM

it's probably related to the rahi script

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:48 PM

This is the only example of this in the whole game afaik

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:48 PM

3rd try: doesn't work

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:49 PM

not really. onu-koro functions in the same way, except that there it removes an object

same sort of thing

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:49 PM

No, I mean an item just not appearing

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:49 PM

well yeah

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) One more time then use the blk I sent here for a bit

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:51 PM

4th try:doesn't work

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:52 PM

ok so that's also 0% of the time

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 12:52 PM

So for you it shows up only with the original

That means that there's defititely a problem with the newer blk

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:53 PM

Let's try this

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:53 PM

sent blk: 1st try: works

2nd try: works (edited)

I also tried it once before

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:54 PM

this is the new blk with the mask swapped out for the original

Attachment: mwat.blk (1.08 MB)

if it works then it's safe to say i beefed the mask or the mask got beefed by lomn tool

in robot's case it's going to be an osi problem

or worse exe

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 12:56 PM

works, but it's simply uncolored

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 12:56 PM

so it is the model

UGH back to the obj i go

Attachment: mwat.blk (1.1 MB)

try this

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 01:02 PM

Me too or

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 01:02 PM

same blk, just messed with the mask again

in your case i doubt it will do shit but try it if you want

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 01:03 PM

K

Nope. As expected.

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:01 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) Boi I need that blk tested

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:01 PM

yes sir

it appears as pure white

@ShadowDraikana test successful

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:08 PM

so the model was borked then

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:11 PM

yeah

but it shows up as just pure white

like if you took venter black through a negative filter

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:13 PM

that's because it can't find the texture.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/acmt9nv9ojdw2s3/lev2.zip?dl=0

lev2.zip

Shared with Dropbox

Use this

if the mask is still untextured then idk

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:18 PM

k

still untextured

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:21 PM

just fuck this game

i swear what else does this thing want from me

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) Try this

Attachment: mwat.blk (1.04 MB)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:25 PM

K. Last one before I go to bed.

(half past 9 for me)

IT WORKS

IT FUCKING WORKS

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:26 PM

AYY

@V A H K I T I New mwat blk for you

apparently most of the mask disappearance problems were my fault

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:28 PM

Remind me what the issue there was?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:28 PM

mask didn't appear after killing rahi

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:28 PM

Ah

How the hecc did ya both mess and fix that?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:28 PM

I'm gonna close the issue now

Why can I not close the issue?

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:30 PM

DO NOT CLOSE IT

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:30 PM

I CAN'T ANYWAYS

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:30 PM

remember the mask still disappeared for some people

hence half of this was the model for some reason

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:30 PM

Oh yeah that reminds me, you wanted the current changelog Nate

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:31 PM

the other being weird fuckery in the osi presume

and ye

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:31 PM

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:31 PM

first screenshot i can't read shit on

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:31 PM

Open the original image then and zoom it

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:32 PM

yeah that'd elp

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:32 PM

Seeing my name in the changelog gives me a sense of pride and accomplishment. Also, add @The Cap'm (Reese) to the credits list.

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:32 PM

For what?

Oh

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:33 PM

He's a litestone member

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:33 PM

In the actual credits you mean

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:33 PM

yeah

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:33 PM

That's something for Nate to do then

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:33 PM

I sneaked him in there a while ago bois because he tested so much shit behinds the scenes

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 03:33 PM

Lel

For the record, a few of the things in the optional patch notes aren't quite done yet.

I just put them there pre-emptively

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Jul-18 03:42 PM

Good night everyone.

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 03:42 PM

gn

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 04:16 PM

I mean, technically I'm under special thanks instead of Testers, but...

ShadowDraikana 13-Jul-18 04:20 PM

yeah that will need to be redone @V A H K I T I so let me know how you want things restructured

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 04:27 PM

So this collision might be broken a bit

I jumped in from beneath this platform and...well, you can see. (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-Jul-18 04:55 PM

Where is this?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Jul-18 04:55 PM

Le-Koro.

(VLLG)

Jumped beneath one of the platforms using the Miru, and clipped into it

Jumped here from the Takara pit, it's one of the platforms near the entrance (edited)

From what I can tell by doing this again, there's a place underneath that platform where Lewa tries to grab an edge. He pulls himself up, and one of two things happens: either a) You go through the tree entirely and fall to your death or b) You pull yourself up into the platform, getting stuck inside (as seen above)

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:48 PM

I've been trying to install the beta of The Legend of Mata-Nui, but every time I do, this message pops up. I'll click "yes," install it, and then try again, only for the same process to repeat. Does anyone know the solution?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 04:49 PM

are you the guy from twitter? I think I know your name. Anyways, do you have an antivirus that might be blocking the download?

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:49 PM

Yes, that's me!

I don't believe I have any antivirus programs activate atm

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 04:50 PM

In what folder is your launcher located?

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:51 PM

I have it in a folder where I keep all of my games and game-related material

And it seems like the beta is in that folder too

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 04:52 PM

can you show me a screenshot?

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:52 PM

Sure

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 04:54 PM

a screenshot of the Lego Bionicle (Beta) folder pls

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:55 PM

Oh, whoops, sorry

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 04:55 PM

these also helped

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:55 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 04:56 PM

what's written on that text file?

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:57 PM

When I open it, this is all that comes up...

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 04:57 PM

That should work then

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:58 PM

The beta is compatible with Windows 10, right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 04:58 PM

yes

of course it is

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 04:59 PM

OK, I've heard it is, but I just wanted to make sure

I'm not sure then why it keeps asking me to install it it then...

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:00 PM

you don't have it installed. that's all

When the install prompt comes up, it asks you what directory to install it in, right?

Check if there's a LEGO Media folder in your Program Files folder

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:03 PM

When I open the launcher, it says that beat base game is not found. When I install it, it then installs to the folder where the launcher is, but then the same prompt comes up when I try and launch it

In the folder where the launcher is?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:04 PM

?

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:04 PM

Where would the LEGO Media folder be?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:04 PM

C:/Program Files or C:/Program Files (x86)

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:07 PM

I don't see one in either

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:07 PM

When exactly did you download the launcher?

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:09 PM

I had downloaded it a little over a week ago, on july 8th according to my folder

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:10 PM

I... honestly don't know.

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:11 PM

Hm... Well, thank you for your help anyways! It might just be the computer I'm on. I'll try it on one of my laptops and see if it works there

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:12 PM

Try installing it in the default folder. Alternatively I could just give you the beta build and then you could try and see if it'll be updated when the next patch drops

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:14 PM

Yeah, I'll try that. Changing the download location may have been the problem

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:28 PM

That seems to have been the trick! Its working now

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:28 PM

Nice to hear that! Hope you enjoy

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:29 PM

Thanks!

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:29 PM

you're welcome

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:37 PM

Oh, just a quick (and probably stupid) question; how do I play it in fullscreen?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:38 PM

if you have it on in dgVoodoo, Alt+Enter

JAGOViKK 17-Jul-18 05:38 PM

That did it! Thanks again! lol

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jul-18 05:39 PM

You're welcome

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 17-Jul-18 05:50 PM

❤

[YT] €ΔǤŁ€ βỮƗŁĐ€Ř 18-Jul-18 04:18 PM

So how long does the game take to install? Because I just downloaded it and it's just been running as a "background process" for what feels like ages and no progress seems to have been made (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Jul-18 04:19 PM

It should be relatively quick

[YT] €ΔǤŁ€ βỮƗŁĐ€Ř 18-Jul-18 04:20 PM

Hmmm.... Do I need to be sure to download the most recent build? If so where do I go for that?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Jul-18 04:20 PM

bit.ly/LegendNoLonger

Be sure to install the launcher in the default place it wants to be installed

[YT] €ΔǤŁ€ βỮƗŁĐ€Ř 18-Jul-18 04:23 PM

McAfee keeps doing this each time I download it and try to run it, is this causing an issue?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Jul-18 04:24 PM

That’s a false positive

[YT] €ΔǤŁ€ βỮƗŁĐ€Ř 18-Jul-18 04:25 PM

So do I need to force it to ignore the file while I run the installer?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Jul-18 04:27 PM

Just turn it off when installing it and then turn it back on.

Yeah, basically

[YT] €ΔǤŁ€ βỮƗŁĐ€Ř 18-Jul-18 04:32 PM

I tried using "Run as Administrator"

Got this

[YT] €ΔǤŁ€ βỮƗŁĐ€Ř 18-Jul-18 04:46 PM

I really hope that I can get this working! I just heard about this game's release and I miss Bionicle so much that I want to remember it by doing a Let's Play on this

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Jul-18 05:01 PM

So how’d it go?

Also, this game is still very much unfinished. Don’t expect to be Let’s Playing it in no time

[YT] €ΔǤŁ€ βỮƗŁĐ€Ř 18-Jul-18 05:04 PM

OK I may just need to wait for the full release of it. It still didn't work for me. Can't wait for it, though!

JustinMunaro 28-Jul-18 12:55 PM

Hello there ! I can’t find a way to get the beta working on full screen. Is there a solution ? I’m on Windows 8.1 btw

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Jul-18 12:56 PM

The only fullscreening I've done (also on win8) was just using Alt+Enter. What problem specifically are you encountering? (edited)

JustinMunaro 28-Jul-18 01:00 PM

Oh I never tried alt+enter, I didn’t know about it and it works ! Thank you ! I thought it was a glitch because the alpha starts in fullscreen

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Jul-18 01:01 PM

No problem!

JustinMunaro 28-Jul-18 01:01 PM

It’s not a real problem but the beta is in 4:3, is there a way to play in 16:9?

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Jul-18 01:02 PM

You can resize the window manually using the mouse, but that's about the only way to do so as far as I know

JustinMunaro 28-Jul-18 01:03 PM

Already tried that but it doesn’t look good, I’ll play in 4:3 then, thanks

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Jul-18 02:50 PM

So has this graphical bug been addressed?

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Jul-18 04:07 PM

I made a video showing all of Kopaka's level (mostly to show the impossible sections), and I somehow managed to find a bug in the process. Guess I'm just lucky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=codCuUMNrJU&t=1021s

robot54312

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - Kopaka Level Showcase (+Invisib...

This video showcases Kopaka's level in its entirety, recorded to highlight areas that are currently impossible (as of beta version 1.1) and to illustrate the...

Bug is at 26:50

It makes Kopaka and all Rahi completely invisible (edited)

(It also made BRD4 crash)

ScrapMetaru 29-Jul-18 05:59 PM

Can anyone tell me what B(i)RD4 stands for?

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Jul-18 06:17 PM

BRD4 is the slide before Kopaka's boss. It's the fourth sliding section, and is labelled BRD4 in game (as in "board 4," i.e. snowboard) (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Jul-18 04:33 AM

I have a bug to report: in TA12, the stalactites still fall even if you have the Huna activated

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Jul-18 08:53 AM

Why is that a bug?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Jul-18 08:54 AM

in L1A7, Onua isn't able to fall down with the Huna active (edited)

i e the Huna also somehow is able to make someone lighter

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Jul-18 08:55 AM

Well, TA12's not a Huna puzzle actually (edited)

You ever seen Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Jul-18 08:57 AM

no

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Jul-18 08:57 AM

It's the light from the ceiling that's causing the platforms to fall if you're visible

There's a similar trap in the intro to that film

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Jul-18 08:57 AM

oh

also, regarding the video you said you'd make: Barring GaliDiveFromMask, how much do you have complete?

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Jul-18 09:04 AM

I don't remember. Been a while since I did that. I'll check in a bit, but I need food first

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Jul-18 09:04 AM

Aight, take your time

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Jul-18 10:00 AM

Oof. Footage is completely corrupted.

Guess that's one thing I'll have to work on later

r543 (@mention for replies) 30-Jul-18 10:59 AM

Are you using obs?

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Jul-18 11:00 AM

Yes

r543 (@mention for replies) 30-Jul-18 11:00 AM

Oof

Hope I won't have to deal with corruption

LeoProm 04-Aug-18 10:11 AM

Can someone help me with an error?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Aug-18 10:12 AM

What's your error?

LeoProm 04-Aug-18 10:12 AM

the same xD

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/412066953167896587/475288791192698880/unknown.png?width=848&height=530

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Aug-18 10:12 AM

show me a screenshot of your Bionicle.ini

LeoProm 04-Aug-18 10:13 AM

thats properties of Bionicle launcher?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Aug-18 10:13 AM

no

It should be in c:/Program Files (x86)/LEGO Media/LEGO Bionicle (Beta)

LeoProm 04-Aug-18 10:14 AM

here

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Aug-18 10:17 AM

Try to run it without windows xp compatibility

LeoProm 04-Aug-18 10:17 AM

k

same error

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Aug-18 11:13 AM

Set SvpRad to 1 and try again

LeoProm 04-Aug-18 11:15 AM

same

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Aug-18 11:15 AM

Hm

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 10:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJhx9sA-0gM&t=2s

robot54312

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - Level 5: Lewa (Patch v1.1)

A showcase of Lewa's level...ugh. This took far too long to record. I tried to get a crash-less run, but after my seventh attempt I gave up. As such, there a...

31:40

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 10:01 AM

just have the video with the timestamp (after &t) like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJhx9sA-0gM&t=31m40s

robot54312

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - Level 5: Lewa (Patch v1.1)

A showcase of Lewa's level...ugh. This took far too long to record. I tried to get a crash-less run, but after my seventh attempt I gave up. As such, there a...

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 10:02 AM

If you keep moving forwards during the beginning of the slide in Lewa's GLY3, you never stop your running animation whilst sliding

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 10:11 AM

Nice mic there buddy

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 10:13 AM

I meant to post this on #litestone-dev-archived what's wrong with discord ffs?

oh god

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 11:02 AM

Hmm. Just noticed that in Makuta, going from PHTU to KPKA doesn't change the token color of the tokens. It's the only map transition in the level that doesn't do that.

Also, the max health/energy is very inconsistent. Onua and Gali have their normal 3 and 4 HP/EP, but Pohatu gets 6, Kopaka gets 9, Lewa gets 13, and Tahu gets 18 (edited)

And I just saw the pattern there. Gali has +1 health from Onua, Pohatu has +2 health from Gali, Kopaka is +3 from Pohatu, etc

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 11:10 AM

maybe that's how it's normally supposed to be

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 11:11 AM

I kind of doubt that. Tahu's HP bar covers up part of the timer by the end. That doesn't seem too intentional

Then again...Saffire

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 11:12 AM

maybe it's that all of them count their HP up relatively from Onua

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 11:13 AM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 11:14 AM

We should have a Saffire emote for these things

something like :saffire:

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 11:14 AM

heh

I imagine it would be that MS Paint Saffire logo from the files

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 11:19 AM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 11:19 AM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 11:20 AM

~~newemotewhen~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 11:23 AM

Looking in this folder, there's actually an old pause screen graphic that I presume was from the demo

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 02:35 PM

Yeah, it was never used in any builds we have.

Neither ever even had a restart button for that matter.

Furthermore, this is a still graphic with menu options baked in. Neither build ever did that.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 02:37 PM

Still kind of a neat graphic, though

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 02:37 PM

In future patches, I'd like to remove those and just have the background behind the pause menu

We also need to reimplement the help screen.

Problem is the inventory reuses that screen's old subroutines

SPeaking of, @Hexadecimal Mantis, did you ever make any headway on that?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 02:38 PM

Did you see the different HUD mask eyes as well?

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 02:39 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 02:39 PM

That would be in interesting thing to implement (if possible)

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 02:40 PM

It's probably EXE controlled.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 02:40 PM

Thus the (if possible)

Figured it wouldn't be easy

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 02:40 PM

There are a number of level specific things involving colour that are all just EXE controlled, and it's super annoying.

These include, but are not limited to, fog colour, sphere colour, token colour, and Tohunga body colour

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 02:41 PM

isn't token color character-controlled?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 02:41 PM

That means that Makuta token issue I mentioned won't be fixable soon, then (edited)

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 02:43 PM

?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 02:43 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Aug-18 02:43 PM

From PHTU to KPKA, the token color doesn't switch

It's fine once you go to LEWA

The token color on the HUD is supposed to change when you switch between Toa in the final level, but it doesn't from PHTU to KPKA.

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Aug-18 03:17 PM

@V A H K I T I I might be able to remove the background

oh wait

I misread

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 03:22 PM

Lel

I meant about the help screen

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Aug-18 03:27 PM

That's exe controlled in some way

I would need the dll hook

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 03:27 PM

Oof.

@JrMasterModelBuilder Ping.

Actually, he's probs still at Brickfair

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Aug-18 03:28 PM

At least it is in the alpha

I thought all of you were going to BF?

V A H K I T I 05-Aug-18 03:28 PM

That was the plan.

But by the time I found a place to stay, it was way too late to make anything proper for the event.

So I decided to put the demo off until next year, or some other LEGO con later in the season.

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Aug-18 03:29 PM

I would go but I don't want to pay for plane tickets

I need to spend my money on other things i don't need

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Aug-18 03:30 PM

I just didn't want to go. It didn't interest me that much.

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Aug-18 03:31 PM

it looks hype though https://twitter.com/BZP_Tweets/status/1025437674751049728 (edited)

BZPower (@BZP_Tweets)

This is about how many #LEGO #bionicle fans there are at #BrickFair! #bfva @brickfairexpo

~~Partying with the boyz~~

CyclonatorZ 06-Aug-18 11:01 AM

There's more people in that photo than active members on BZPower, lol.

Hexadecimal Mantis 06-Aug-18 11:04 AM

~~The sad truth~~

JrMasterModelBuilder 06-Aug-18 03:58 PM

That photo also misses a few people to the left and right.

ScrapMetaru 07-Aug-18 08:48 PM

Um, I did a complete run through Onua (deathpits still crash once per room, btw) and after a crash that I can only assume was the result of checking my inventory for the Makoki stone and which caused me to fight Vatuka twice, I am now in Ga-Wahi as Onua. I spawned in MTUP, didn't get the cutscene, and have walked into the opening crabs room.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-18 08:49 PM

Did you load your save?

ScrapMetaru 07-Aug-18 08:49 PM

Yes.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-18 08:49 PM

That's why

ShadowDraikana 07-Aug-18 08:49 PM

That's why

lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-18 08:49 PM

The Toa don't switch after a loaded save

That's a bug

ShadowDraikana 07-Aug-18 08:49 PM

^

Been trying to fix this since the alpha

ScrapMetaru 07-Aug-18 08:50 PM

Oh. :/

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-18 08:50 PM

It also can screw up spawn maps/positions depending on what level you're beating

ScrapMetaru 07-Aug-18 08:51 PM

I'm gonna see how far I can go in this state. BRB when it crashes.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-18 08:51 PM

It shouldn't be long...

ShadowDraikana 07-Aug-18 08:52 PM

Wait for it....

ScrapMetaru 07-Aug-18 08:53 PM

Nevermind I fell in the water.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-18 08:53 PM

You could just warp out with the debug camera

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-18 09:38 PM

So in the backported Lewa meets Tahu, Lewa's legs clip through the floor while he looks up at Tahu

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-18 09:39 PM

Probably because it's not using the BHD for his animations properly

I'll look into it later though cause that scene has far more issues

Namely the text

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-18 09:40 PM

There also might be an issue while he's falling, but I can't say for sure since it happens so fast

Lehvak Nuva 08-Aug-18 07:46 AM

Hello! I've just tested new update (only Onua level), and when I tried to open Inventory from game's pause menu, it didn't shows, and i could not close it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 07:47 AM

Was there text instead of the inventory that said though he appears small, he has incredible strength in his or something like that?

Lehvak Nuva 08-Aug-18 07:48 AM

Yes. In previous build, that text was under the inventory. Now it's only this text.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 07:49 AM

Send me your save file

something with the inventory might've caused it to not show

Lehvak Nuva 08-Aug-18 07:49 AM

I started new game

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 07:49 AM

that's weird but at the same time

this bug is very random

Anyways this bug is known, but we don't know how to fix it: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/49

Sometimes entering the inventory menu will result in a softlock. T...

Lehvak Nuva 08-Aug-18 07:53 AM

Ok. So, its better not to open inventory during the game.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 08:07 AM

yes

Lehvak Nuva 08-Aug-18 08:14 AM

Also, i noticed that water in the beginning of Onua level appears little strange - as narrow lines, instead of waves. Something with texture's coordinates.

justframbo 08-Aug-18 08:16 AM

someone's mowed the sea

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 08:22 AM

lmao

Teylgate 08-Aug-18 12:41 PM

Ay uhhh a little help?

Finally got the game working but Onua's level starts to a black screen

The HUD shows up, I can move and fire but I can't see

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 12:44 PM

Are you running the game with dgVoodoo?

or with the patches?

Teylgate 08-Aug-18 12:44 PM

I'm running without the launchwr

Just downloaded straight from biomediaproject

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 12:45 PM

then you have the unmodded version (you have literally the one deepbrick played with) (edited)

Teylgate 08-Aug-18 12:45 PM

Fuk

What should I do?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 12:50 PM

download it from bit.ly/LegendNoLonger

get the launcher

install it

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 02:21 PM

Oh great

Water textures broke...

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-18 02:22 PM

They sure did

Guess BECH is getting uncompressed

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 02:22 PM

I wonder about the other areas with water

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-18 02:23 PM

Well add this to the list for a hotfix tonight I guess

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 02:23 PM

done

Attachment: bech.blk (1.68 MB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Aug-18 02:23 PM

L1A3, CLF1, and CLF2 all look fine

ATRM, L1A7, and L1A8 also look fine

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 02:24 PM

odd

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 03:59 PM

GLY3 in the alpha is now crashing on loading.

In Gali's level.

Confirmed.

What the fuck

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 04:07 PM

what

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 04:07 PM

It works when backtracking from GL3S

now it's working fine

but the warp list entry won't work now. what the fuck

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 04:24 PM

it's throwing different addresses each time too (edited)

ffffffffff

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 04:25 PM

~~was that the next adress?~~

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 04:25 PM

lol could have been since it's jumping around so much

the warp list one seems localized though

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-18 04:35 PM

SCP-4001 Object class: Euclid Special containment procedures: SCP-4001 is to be monitored on a daily basis for any changes to its code. Any changes resulting in anomalies must be catalogued and fixed as soon as possible. Failure to address such anomalies in quick fashion may result in a class A cognitohazard to anyone within observable range. Description: SCP-4001 is a canceled video game by the title of "BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui", discovered in Feburary 2018 by [DATA EXPUNGED]. SCP-4001, has a history of dynamically changing in behaviour, seemingly at random when run, with little inexplicable reason as to why. SCP-4001, will frequently shut down or crash for varying reasons. Observations of these anomalous events by D-class personnel during failed attempts to resolve such issues, or leaving them to simply exist, have resulted in [READCTED] casualties from a class A cognitohazard, causing effected subjects to fall into a near catatonic state. Following this state, personnel involved will simply repeat the word "Saffire" before expiring, seemingly from exhaustion.

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 04:36 PM

If you haven't pinned that yet, you should.

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-18 04:36 PM

Pinned a message.

Would you believe I just came up with that on the fly, just now?

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 04:37 PM

Well played. I think you basically just summed it up perfectly.

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-18 04:37 PM

I just started typing, and there it was. xP

I should get back into writing someday

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 04:40 PM

Could write a book about what happened to the poor souls who lost their minds to the clutches of the osi

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Aug-18 04:40 PM

Just write a crime novel about this entire game

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 04:46 PM

@V A H K I T I All you did was add the cutscene code to the STRT subroutines in the alpa osi correct?

Because I can't get it to work without the cutscene code now either

The Cool(er) Chronicle 08-Aug-18 05:24 PM

Man did i have a close one with this game, it almost literally bricked my computer

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 06:22 PM

@V A H K I T I Progress. The cinematic code is what's causing STRT to bomb upon leaving. Trying to narrow down what exactly is causing it.

Found it

It WAS the cleanup that was dying

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-18 07:12 PM

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

I literally moved the code around because I was like, it couldn't possibly be that, could it? But it was.

Alright that's resolved. Reentering is crashing for a completely different reason and not in any way related to this. Most likely cleanup failure but still this seems to be fixed. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Aug-18 08:51 PM

@V A H K I T I You see the above? Nate wanted me to make sure

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-18 08:52 PM

I see it. Not sure what he wants me to do about it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Aug-18 08:52 PM

Nothing. He fixed the problem.

Just wanted you to know it was the cutscene code I think

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-18 08:53 PM

Ah okay

I mean, that WAS admittedly a rush job

I also chose to omit parts of the code that he had in the beta, though I forget exactly what.

I didn't really test it beyond: "Does the scene play? yes. Can I skip it and not crash? Yes"

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Aug-18 09:06 PM

Here's an alpha OSI Nate gave me that fixes both that shutdown and the Fikou-Nui text, @V A H K I T I .

Attachment: Base.osi (878.55 KB)

Removes the SPIDER KING text as well

Will'um 09-Aug-18 04:33 AM

Coming out of the Onua boss fight in mud0(?), first time playing tonight I got into the next area but got stuck in the level geometry, every time since I've gotten this error

Beta btw

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 09-Aug-18 04:46 AM

Are you running it from the front end?

please send a screenshot that shows more

Will'um 09-Aug-18 05:02 AM

I am running it from the front end, and the game window becomes invisible upon the error occurring

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 09-Aug-18 05:02 AM

If you run from the front end AND save the village, then the exit from MUD0 crashes

just run Gali's level from the test menu

Will'um 09-Aug-18 05:04 AM

Gotcha, I did manage to get through after one more go but it fails to switch characters to Gali, I'm guessing that's a side-effect of the cutscene not being in there?

Cutscene trigger*

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 09-Aug-18 05:11 AM

yeah

because frontend disables cutscenes

like I said, use the test menu

Will'um 09-Aug-18 05:22 AM

Duly noted, cheers lad ❤

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 09-Aug-18 05:27 AM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Aug-18 05:37 PM

@V A H K I T I So I just noticed something about the G meets P audio. When Gali gives Pohatu her masks, the alpha plays the "night vision on" (Ruru) noise while the beta plays the Mask Activation noise from the alpha. In all the other scenes, the sound effect is the Item Collection sound.

Hexadecimal Mantis 09-Aug-18 05:38 PM

we should be able to fix that

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 10-Aug-18 04:15 AM

The totem in Gali's level says "XXX"

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-18 07:49 AM

Just noticed that the camera clips through the floor in the transition to the controls menu

Attachment: 2018-08-10_06-48-00.mp4 (2.71 MB)

Hexadecimal Mantis 10-Aug-18 07:50 AM

The camera clips all over the place in the front end

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-18 07:52 AM

This is the only super noticable one, though. You see through the floor. That doesn't happen on any of the other branching screens

Lehvak Nuva 13-Aug-18 12:06 PM

In Kopaka's level, just after second skiing map, I've been spawned outside of map, then fell, and game had crashed.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Aug-18 12:06 PM

Alpha or beta?

Lehvak Nuva 13-Aug-18 12:07 PM

Beta. And I remember that happened before.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Aug-18 12:07 PM

do you have that save file?

it's in the game's data folder as player0.sav

Lehvak Nuva 13-Aug-18 12:08 PM

Yes

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Aug-18 12:08 PM

That way I can find out what area you're in

Lehvak Nuva 13-Aug-18 12:08 PM

Attachment: player0.sav (551 B)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Aug-18 12:10 PM

I don't have that problem

Just try hitting Load Game

it should work

Lehvak Nuva 13-Aug-18 12:10 PM

I will try.

Yes. It loads fine. But why I lost grappling hook ability? I know I can return it in debug menu, but during that save game I already had it.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Aug-18 12:15 PM

you should have the grappling hook

does it just not work?

Lehvak Nuva 13-Aug-18 12:16 PM

It works when I activate it in debug menu.

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-Aug-18 12:47 PM

Apparently Tahu can double jump if the jumps are timed correctly

Attachment: out.mp4 (6.6 MB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-18 12:48 PM

It's not much of a second jump, though.

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-Aug-18 12:48 PM

yea

definitely not intentional though (edited)

No idea how we would go about fixing it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-18 12:52 PM

Aside from Onua, the other Toa can...kind of do it as well

There isn't a second jump noise, but their animations do jitter as if the second jump had been triggered (edited)

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-Aug-18 12:53 PM

If you stop holding the attack key before the second jump the sound will play

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-18 12:54 PM

Ah

I couldn't get it to work with Onua, though

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-Aug-18 12:54 PM

yea same here

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-18 12:55 PM

~~Hunchbacks can't double jump confirmed~~

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-Aug-18 12:55 PM

I wonder if it works with the strafe jump

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-18 12:57 PM

It doesn't seem to work when moving as far as I can tell

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-Aug-18 12:57 PM

I meant as the second jump

it seems to work

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-18 12:57 PM

Oh

my b

Hexadecimal Mantis 13-Aug-18 12:58 PM

Pohatu looks like he gets extra height with his strafe jump

It could just be an optical illusion or something though

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-18 01:00 PM

Hmm. It...might be higher? I can't really tell either

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:07 AM

so, it turns out that second jump is very broken

Attachment: out.mp4 (7.67 MB)

~~You can reach extreme heights with a few simpleflips~~

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:08 AM

SHOUTOUTS TO SIMPLEFLIPS

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:08 AM

^^^^

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:09 AM

Honestly, say what you want, it's no boom Knuckles.

If anything, I'd say it's closer to the infinite Yoshi flutter in Mario Galaxy 2.

Which in itself is deceptively difficult to chain.

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:10 AM

I'm pretty good at it

I skipped the cloud section in the perfect run

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:11 AM

Honestly? I'd love to see the alpha grapple physics backported just for the speedrun possibilities.

The up up and away glitch the alpha has is hilarious, but impossible to control.

The alpha's slingshot bug was just a beautiful display of early 2000s game physics at its finest.

And actually made for some decent skips.

Particularly in Makuta's level

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:12 AM

yea

I got a similar thing to happen in the beta with the grapple

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:12 AM

Speaking of, I wonder why the particle trail for the grapple isn't in the beta

I almost forgot about that until I replayed some alpha shit the other day.

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:14 AM

the particle trail was deemed to violent by LEGO

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:14 AM

Boi

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:15 AM

I'm having too much fun with this

Attachment: out.mp4 (3.94 MB)

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:23 AM

Attachment: out.mp4 (4.53 MB)

double flip (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:25 AM

D O A B A R R E L R O L L

G-Bond 16-Aug-18 12:25 AM

THANKS FOR THE HELP FOX

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:26 AM

Mishaun Comleleee

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-Aug-18 12:27 AM

I don’t think it’s feasible for speedrunning because you spend too much time falling. Can you show a skip with it?

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:28 AM

def not feasible. But it's fun

G-Bond 16-Aug-18 12:28 AM

IM AFRAID I CANT LET YOU DO THAT STAR FOX

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 12:28 AM

I've got a bad feeling about this, Fox

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:29 AM

Hey off topic a sec, but you know something I'd like to do with one of Gali's slide areas once we get full control of models and animations?

THIS

G-Bond 16-Aug-18 12:29 AM

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:29 AM

May as well work off the concept art, right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-Aug-18 12:30 AM

What is it even supposed to be?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:30 AM

Hell, that could be part of her segemtn of a Makuta fight

Here's another idea we can use right now.

The Akaku is currently just kinda chillin on the floor

Here's one particular piece that actually DID get used in a recognizable form!

G-Bond 16-Aug-18 12:33 AM

i wonder if there was gonna be a part in lewas level were you fly with the nui rama

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 12:36 AM

Most likely

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 07:15 PM

More Pohatu tricks

Attachment: out.mp4 (7.54 MB)

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-18 07:16 PM

I still want to know what's causing his double/triple land glitch after scaling a ledge.

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 07:16 PM

everyone has glitchy jumps except for onua

Lewa can do some pretty cool tricks too

Lewa's glitch backward jump goes way farther than his normal forward jump

Attachment: 2018-08-16_19-19-00.mp4 (7.49 MB)

Probably some kind of momentum glitch

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-18 07:21 PM

Would this be osi related or exe

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 07:21 PM

No idea

All of the toa can backwards jump if timed correctly

But, lewa is the only one that conclusively travels farther with the glitch

The other toa might too, but it's harder to tell

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-18 07:23 PM

Weird

You know

I remember seeing values last night for jumping heights when I was perusing those subroutines

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 07:24 PM

Those don't work for some reason

changing those results in nothing

same with runspeed, etc

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-18 07:25 PM

Wonder if they do in the alpha

Sounds like this is more than likely controlled by the exe.

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 07:26 PM

Also, all of the toa that can double jump glitch can get a higher strafe jump if timed correctly

Attachment: out.mp4 (3.68 MB)

first strafe jump was normal, second was double jump glitch strafe jump

It's especially noticeable with Pohatu

Pohatu's boosted strafe jump

Attachment: 2018-08-16_19-32-23.mp4 (6.69 MB)

lol

I just discovered that the double jump glitch leaves footprints in midair

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-18 07:37 PM

wow

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 07:39 PM

midair footprints

Attachment: out.mp4 (7.61 MB)

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-18 07:41 PM

I've seen that before

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 07:42 PM

It probably happens whenever a toa walks in the air

regardless of what causes it

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 08:57 PM

SPEAKING OF

We need to figure out why shadows float in the air during cinematics

And also why cinematics are so jittery

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 09:12 PM

@Hexadecimal Mantis

@ShadowDraikana

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-18 09:15 PM

I remember the shadows working on certain resolutions

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 09:36 PM

Probably a res thing

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:04 PM

bah

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:48 PM

"And also why cinematics are so jittery" Maybe not enough keyframes?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:48 PM

They're jittery even when limited. Just slightly less

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:48 PM

It doesn't seem they got the interpolation thing finished.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:49 PM

The easiest one to see this on is the Lewa Nui Rama scene.

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:49 PM

I think frames are timer based, rather than frame based? (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:49 PM

No clue.

Say, once we have the DLL hook thing functional, do you think it would be possible to implement some facsimile of Darvel's animation blending code he was working on way back when?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:51 PM

Probably not practical.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:51 PM

oof

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:51 PM

Which file had these keyframes again?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:51 PM

The bkd I think. You made the templates.

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:52 PM

Ah, it's the cin slb's.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:52 PM

o

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:54 PM

Which cinematic was the most-noticable?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:55 PM

Lewa's Cin3 in the alpha

It's just as jittery when ported to the beta for the optional patch

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:57 PM

The camera is jittery? (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:58 PM

Nah, it's more like the movement of the characters is jittery

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:58 PM

Hmm, must be in the character animations.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 10:59 PM

rip

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 10:59 PM

Unless it has to do with the location_table

There are only 2 keyframes there though.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 11:00 PM

https://youtu.be/gnCCtiqmBLA?t=70

The Beaverhouse

BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui Patch v0.007 Release Trailer

DOWNLOAD NOW AT: http://bit.ly/LegendNoLonger DOWNLOAD The BIONICLE Age by Paul Hardcastle here: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/blog/unreleased-2001-music-tr...

You can see it at the provided timestamp

It's not the worst part of the scene either if I recall.

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 11:01 PM

Looks like most only have 2 keyframes though.

Huh. Weird.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 11:03 PM

?

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 11:03 PM

the jittery characters is a bhd thing iirc

when we ported the beta onua animations to the alpha

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 11:04 PM

Must be in: c503.b*d

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 11:04 PM

Replacing the the bhd with the beta one fixed Onua's jitters

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 11:04 PM

Not the same issue.

That was the same issue the Takara in the beta currently faces where the Toa's center of gravity isn't rooted to the ground, causing what looks like "floaty legs".

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 11:06 PM

are the characters jittering with the normal beta cutscenes? or just the ported ones?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 11:06 PM

Normal as well.

Hexadecimal Mantis 16-Aug-18 11:06 PM

okay

that makes more sense

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 11:06 PM

That Lewa scene jitters in both versions anyways

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-18 11:06 PM

I'm guessing their animation exporter had some issues earlier on.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-18 11:07 PM

I imagine they never figured it out given that a lot of the effected scenes were just clipped.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 03:10 PM

Updates on the "Gali horn softlock" issue: It happens in other levels

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/196

If any animation which locks controls is interrupted by another an...

This issue was known as #123 , but there is proof of the same happening in other levels such as Kopaka's CRSS. To elaborate on CRSS: When opening the door to VISN, Kopaka's controls get loc...

ShadowDraikana 17-Aug-18 03:13 PM

I'll have to test this out on my end since it could just be the win8+ thing this game has.

Darvell 17-Aug-18 03:20 PM

@V A H K I T I > do you think it would be possible to implement some facsimile of Darvel's animation blending code he was working on way back when? As far as I know, we never got animation blending coded, although it had originally been the plan. If it was done, I didn't have anything to do with it.

Hexadecimal Mantis 17-Aug-18 03:24 PM

Hm

Not sure if this has been asked or not, but would you happen to know anything about areaviewer.txt? The code for it is still there, but we can't figure out how to format the file for it to work correctly.

As far as i know, It's supposed to load up the area specified in the file.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 03:29 PM

There was also some kind of language test screen in the areaviewer

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 03:30 PM

@Darvell Hm. I must have been mistaken on who was involved with that, aha, by bad. Hopefully we can at least do something with what remains of your explody physics code.

Welcome back btw. Haven't seen ya around in a while.

1

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 03:31 PM

can tempExposion even be called by the OSI?

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 03:33 PM

No clue

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Aug-18 04:10 PM

What was the name of that function?

The explosion function?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:12 PM

Ye

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Aug-18 04:12 PM

Yeah, what was the name of it?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:12 PM

tempExposion as far as I know

It can be found in the beta exe

It's after GcSpriteProjectile::Detonate

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 04:13 PM

It's worth noting that we can't do shit with it without rigging support.

Cause it only works on Rahi that are individually split up.

Eg: each piece is a different model

So Idk how you'd go about testing it even if it can be called

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:14 PM

I tried contacting jocool for his Kane-Ra model for this exact reason (each piece is a different model) but he said it was too high poly

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 04:15 PM

That's... still not going to do us any good?

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Aug-18 04:15 PM

Oddly, I'm not finding that function now.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:15 PM

wot

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Aug-18 04:15 PM

What address is it?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:15 PM

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 04:16 PM

What

The actual

fuck

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:16 PM

It's after the arrow up thing

Hexadecimal Mantis 17-Aug-18 04:16 PM

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 04:17 PM

>Opening an exe in Notepad BOI are you even real? xD

It's like I'm being trolled or smth.

Roblord 17-Aug-18 04:18 PM

imagine

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Aug-18 04:19 PM

I can't seem to find that sequence of bytes in IDA. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:20 PM

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Aug-18 04:20 PM

Apparently it is a debug symbol of some kind. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:20 PM

I'm going to sleep now.

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 04:20 PM

Night.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-18 04:20 PM

Good night

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Aug-18 04:22 PM

Ah, it's one of those local variables that IDA picks up on sometimes.

It's in GcSpriteProjectile::Detonate

benji 17-Aug-18 04:23 PM

The explosion was too hardcoded for us to restore. It would require adding data to rahi instances, causing the model to be loaded, etc (edited)

JrMasterModelBuilder 17-Aug-18 04:25 PM

I think GcSpriteProjectile::Detonate / tempExposion is actually for elemental powers.

Hexadecimal Mantis 17-Aug-18 04:25 PM

I believe it is

I looked at that when trying to figure out the particle rings

Darvell 17-Aug-18 05:24 PM

@V A H K I T I Thanks, sorry I was gone so long. I mentioned animation blending to somebody, maybe you, but I never worked on it.

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 05:25 PM

It's no issue. I'm sure you're a busy guy. Speaking of though, I never did hear back from Brian. Idk what happened there, aha.

Darvell 17-Aug-18 05:26 PM

Really. Well, it's not surprising after so long. I think a lot of us from Saffire have moved on. Many of us--including me--don't remember it with fond feelings, LOL.

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 05:26 PM

I got one email from him saying he was traveling and he'd be sparse in replies. That was... two months ago I think now.

Yea fair enough.

Darvell 17-Aug-18 05:27 PM

I can loop back with him, if you want.

V A H K I T I 17-Aug-18 05:27 PM

Might be worth following up by now, yeah. Thanks!

YaBoiDriftKing 17-Aug-18 11:35 PM

Hey guys.

Was it known that you can now walk around the front end area as Onua if you play the game a bit, exit to the test menu, and then launch the front end?

Hexadecimal Mantis 17-Aug-18 11:36 PM

yes we knew day 1

YaBoiDriftKing 17-Aug-18 11:36 PM

Well then.

I feel pretty stupid.

Sorry. Haven't been here in a while.

G-Bond 18-Aug-18 07:06 AM

I think theres something wrong with the launcher, it keeps saying (not responding) on the top bar. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Aug-18 07:11 AM

What did you do?

G-Bond 18-Aug-18 07:12 AM

idk

it used to work fine before but now its all lagy

ShadowDraikana 18-Aug-18 12:46 PM

It's been acting up for me too

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Aug-18 12:46 PM

Not on me

YaBoiDriftKing 18-Aug-18 04:38 PM

Where can I find the list of reported bugs?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Aug-18 04:39 PM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues

TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

game-issues - The Legend of Mata Nui Gameplay Issues

ShadowDraikana 18-Aug-18 04:40 PM

Check the closed issues as well

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Aug-18 04:53 PM

I'll go to sleep now. Good night.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Aug-18 04:55 PM

gn

ShadowDraikana 18-Aug-18 05:01 PM

gn

YaBoiDriftKing 18-Aug-18 05:01 PM

gn

G-Bond 20-Aug-18 02:03 PM

i got soft lock in Ga-koro

ShadowDraikana 20-Aug-18 02:05 PM

with the horns?

G-Bond 20-Aug-18 02:06 PM

I got 2 tokens from the area were you get the hook but when i go to the door in ga-koro i dosent dissapear then i try to do the debug camera to through the door but i cant go to another area.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Aug-18 02:17 PM

you need to get closer to the token door if you debug camera through there

G-Bond 20-Aug-18 02:18 PM

i was close i was even touching it and wouldnt do anything

ShadowDraikana 20-Aug-18 02:29 PM

door should have been hotfixed

I took care of that one already

G-Bond 20-Aug-18 10:19 PM

i reinstalled the game i tried to go to the token door and the same thing happend

however after doing the debug cam thing i touched the door and it did the level transitioned

G-Bond 20-Aug-18 11:42 PM

Im getting so sick and tired of these crashes. Im sorry if i sound rude.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Aug-18 01:23 AM

Where did it crash then?

G-Bond 21-Aug-18 01:24 AM

i was trying to fight with the stone elemental

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Aug-18 01:25 AM

You need to let the boulders hit you. The stone elemental damages itself that way

G-Bond 21-Aug-18 01:26 AM

ik

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Aug-18 01:27 AM

And when it’s health reaches 0, jump out of there

And don’t stand where it does

Thomas aka Voiandra 21-Aug-18 04:54 AM

on this platform lewa dies in my game

also in lewa and kopakas level the abyss let the game crash

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Aug-18 08:21 AM

Both of these are already known. Please check the github issues list before reporting new ones: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/175 https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/112

Maps with bad killboxes · Issue #175 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-i...

This thread should be used to document any maps with improper killboxes (bad placement, lack thereof, etc). To start: Onua - L1A7, L1A8 (only when the village is saved, for some reason) Gali - WTHK...

Sometimes, jumping off of vines results in death · Issue #112 ·...

In Lewa's level (most apparent in le07), if you jump off a vine (or jump off a vine and instantly activate the Miru), Lewa dies. This might be a softlock, but I don't know.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Aug-18 08:28 AM

For now, just use the debug camera to get past these areas

@Thomas aka Voiandra

ShadowDraikana 21-Aug-18 03:49 PM

It's not a killbox problem. We already confirmed that

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Aug-18 01:07 AM

Yeah, but he also said that falling in Lewa’s or Kopaka’s level makes the game crash

ShadowDraikana 22-Aug-18 01:08 PM

That's been known for some time

G-Bond 24-Aug-18 04:24 AM

has anyone reported about the whole Game crashing when you try to go in another area at the start of the level in kopakas level in the alpha

V A H K I T I 24-Aug-18 04:25 AM

The alpha is unstable as it is, but Kopaka's level is by far the worst. You're lucky you can even move without it shitting the bed.

However what you're experiencing now may be me fault (edited)

For which there should be a hotfix soon

G-Bond 24-Aug-18 04:26 AM

ah ok also why is there a talking statue in naho falls in galis level in the beta

V A H K I T I 24-Aug-18 04:27 AM

It details a change in controls for using the horns

There's an issue on windows 8+ that causes a softlock involving a failure to disable the grapple when playing them

As such, the control was temporarily remapped to Q

G-Bond 24-Aug-18 04:28 AM

im useing winows 7

V A H K I T I 24-Aug-18 04:28 AM

Well then you would have never noticed the issue.

(edited)

G-Bond 24-Aug-18 04:29 AM

the reason why i asked is because the statue says nothing but "xxx"

V A H K I T I 24-Aug-18 04:29 AM

I think I forgot the stringtable for it, aha. I.. really need to get cracking with that hotfix.

Remind me about that tomorrow.

G-Bond 24-Aug-18 04:30 AM

i'll try

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-18 01:46 PM

@G-Bond That issue was caused by Liam porting the P meets K cutscene and should be in the hotfix. Just rearranged some code to make it not bomb out like that. (edited)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 24-Aug-18 03:57 PM

https://twitter.com/Jalaguy/status/1030132138014851072

Callum Tozer (@Jalaguy)

STUPID THING THAT'S ON MY MIND RIGHT NOW: in Quest for the Toa, Bula berries restore health and Vuata Mata fruit restores energy, but in The Legend of Mata Nui, Vuata Maca fruit restores health and glowing orbs restore energy.

V A H K I T I 24-Aug-18 03:59 PM

.-.

G-Bond 25-Aug-18 02:04 PM

has anyone figured out the crashing issue in the area where you have to use the huna in onuas level

V A H K I T I 25-Aug-18 02:04 PM

Depends on which one

G-Bond 25-Aug-18 02:04 PM

the first one

V A H K I T I 25-Aug-18 02:05 PM

There's a crash if you die there, and a semi-random crash if you go hog wild on the Rahi after the last platform.

The first one might be similar to the CAVE backtracking crash.

Something to do with saving.

Eg: if you play the level normally and try to backtrack from SHRN to CAVE, the game will crash AND permanently fuck your save into a crash loop.

G-Bond 25-Aug-18 02:06 PM

i meant the second crash

V A H K I T I 25-Aug-18 02:06 PM

However if you TELEPORT to SHRN and do the same thing, nothing anomalous happens.

So the hog wild crash

That one's hard to pinpoint since it's difficult to replicate, nevermind find an exact cause.

G-Bond 25-Aug-18 02:07 PM

at first i thought when you said witch one i thought of the first huna area my mistake

V A H K I T I 25-Aug-18 02:08 PM

For future reference, I'd appreciate it if you could note the crash addresses on subsequent bug reports from now on.

G-Bond 25-Aug-18 02:08 PM

ok

Filo 30-Aug-18 02:08 PM

Hi

I've downloaded Beta version of LoMN from BMP, but after opening the game it shows white screen only and shuts down immediately.

What should I do?

My friend has the same problem.

Both of us use Windows 10.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Aug-18 02:10 PM

Did you get the patches?

The game doesn’t run on Win10 without them

Filo 30-Aug-18 02:11 PM

nope

where can I get them?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Aug-18 02:11 PM

Get the launcher from bit.ly/LegendNoLonger

Filo 30-Aug-18 02:12 PM

thanks !

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Aug-18 02:13 PM

You’re welcome!

mnicho54 30-Aug-18 02:17 PM

Hi there! Can I get an alternative link for LOMN launcher? I'm looking for patches too, but unfortunately I can't download it from the previous source

Filo 30-Aug-18 02:17 PM

it doesn't work :/

mnicho54 30-Aug-18 02:18 PM

I'll be grateful

I've the same problem as youts @Filo

yours*

Filo 30-Aug-18 02:22 PM

Yeah

I'd be grateful, too

(BTW: you're Polish too, right?)

omegalucas 30-Aug-18 06:13 PM

The link works, bitly simply has it marked as potential malware because it's an executable

I can vouch that there is no virus there

Here's the complete link, alternatively:

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/BIONICLE%20Launcher%20Installer.exe

Filo 30-Aug-18 06:35 PM

Yeah, I noticed that and chose "enter anyway" or something

And what happened was redirecting me to the link you pasted now

but it doesn't work, don't know why :<

Do you have any mirror link? (edited)

omegalucas 30-Aug-18 07:22 PM

It works for me. Your browser must be blocking it

@V A H K I T I is there any mirror like on MEGA or something?

mnicho54 02-Sep-18 01:36 PM

I'd be glad if you can upload the launcher on MEGA's hosting

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Sep-18 01:36 PM

Why?

mnicho54 02-Sep-18 01:36 PM

@Filo Exactly, I'm Polish too

Because I can't force browser/rpoxy to download this file; I haven't had any problems with MEGA

*proxy

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Sep-18 01:37 PM

Have you tried using a different browser?

mnicho54 02-Sep-18 01:38 PM

Yeah' ive tried and nothing changed :/

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Sep-18 01:39 PM

Well, it works for me

mnicho54 02-Sep-18 01:41 PM

I'm almost sure that changing the hosting source might help me; I often use MEGA download or zippyshare and they just work for me

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Sep-18 01:45 PM

Then try this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s40d9vjkvv9tcez/BIONICLE%20Launcher%20Installer%20%283%29.exe?dl=0

BIONICLE Launcher Installer (3).exe

Shared with Dropbox

mnicho54 02-Sep-18 01:52 PM

Thank you so much <3 I'll let you know if it works

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 07:56 AM

Hello!

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 07:56 AM

Hey!

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 07:57 AM

i cant play Legend of Mata Nui

a time ago I deleted all the files and the launcher

recently i dwnladed the launcher. dwnld beta and patch

but when i run the game. unhandled exception

and the game close

somebody know how to fix this?

Teylgate 15-Sep-18 08:01 AM

I get the same issue

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 08:01 AM

crying a lot seeing videos of the game on youtube xDDD

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 08:01 AM

did you guys try setting "SvpRad" in the bionicle.ini to 1?

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 08:01 AM

yes :c

i will try again

now

Teylgate 15-Sep-18 08:03 AM

I don't think I did

I'll try again

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 08:04 AM

tried. unhandled exception again

:c

is there a "list of needed" to play the game?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 08:04 AM

no, there shouldn't be

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 08:04 AM

net framework version. directx etc

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 08:05 AM

it should all work with the patches

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 08:05 AM

maybe there is something idont have

some configuration of vgoodo

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 08:09 AM

Did you try to DL it again?

And I should DL the game as well, right now

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 08:09 AM

recently

but always get the unhandled exception

pohatu on my desk is looking at me disappointed

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 08:12 AM

try running the game as administrator

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 08:12 AM

i did

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 08:13 AM

What OS are you on and I guess you did set the compatibility settings?

LeoProm 15-Sep-18 08:13 AM

Compatibility with windows xp sp3. on a 32bit windows 7

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:29 AM

I think I had the game freeze up today

Basically I played in Windowed and tried to move the window which downscaled it to 800x600 or so

When opening up the inventory I got this

How does one see the descriptions in the first place?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 09:30 AM

what descriptions?

these ones?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Sep-18 09:30 AM

the glossary

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:30 AM

Yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Sep-18 09:30 AM

in front end

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 09:30 AM

in the front end

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:30 AM

But why did it show up now?

Seems to be a description of said bug pet?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Sep-18 09:30 AM

The inventory not showing up is a bug.

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:31 AM

I see, so it's also normal that it shows the description of the last picked up item?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Sep-18 09:31 AM

No

It's a glossary entry for one of the characters

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:31 AM

And why did it show up now? (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Sep-18 09:31 AM

Beats me. It's a bug.

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:31 AM

Alrighty then, just wanted to ask, hope that wasn't bad.

Also I don't think I found the lost Disk of said Matoran but I did get the Bug Pet, yet continuing the game now shows I have the Disk(?) but not the Bug?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 09:32 AM

This is what probably causes the bug

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:38 AM

Ah so it's supposed to show up like that?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Sep-18 09:38 AM

not exactly

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:38 AM

When I had the menu open on widescreen I just saw the top part, nothing else

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Sep-18 09:38 AM

The screen in the top corner should be the entire screen

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:38 AM

Btw the Pickaxe that's missing is white(Nuju's) I guess that's also known though?

Should the text be overlay then or what about it?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 09:39 AM

the text should be hidden

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Sep-18 09:39 AM

The text there shouldn't be there period

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Sep-18 09:39 AM

however,

having the text there is apparently the only method of calling the inventory

r543 (@mention for replies) 15-Sep-18 09:40 AM

Alright so that's from the glossary, makes sense

UltimateAura 20-Sep-18 02:55 PM

Whenever I enter the very first village it will crash after some time and give the unhandled exception error but when I relaunch the game a cutscene starts playing but the model of the toa is missing and when the cutscene is done the game acts really weird and is pretty much unplayable

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Sep-18 02:56 PM

I had the same error too. Do you have the patches?

UltimateAura 20-Sep-18 02:56 PM

It said there were patches available so I downloaded them (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Sep-18 02:57 PM

Did you skip the cutscene?

UltimateAura 20-Sep-18 02:58 PM

I accidentally skipped the cutscene at the beginning when you leave the beach but that's it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Sep-18 03:00 PM

I’m sorry, but I don’t think I can help you

Hexadecimal Mantis 20-Sep-18 03:00 PM

UltimateAura 20-Sep-18 03:09 PM

Well that's an oof

I'll see if I can reinstall it then and see if that helps

orange penguin watched BNA 28-Sep-18 11:43 AM

the biomedia proyect dosent let me install anything

or even play some of the games

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Sep-18 11:45 AM

English please?

orange penguin watched BNA 28-Sep-18 11:46 AM

when i try to install or play something from the biomedia proyect, this appears

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Sep-18 11:47 AM

Right

orange penguin watched BNA 28-Sep-18 11:47 AM

what do i do?

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Sep-18 11:49 AM

I have no idea

@Founding Friends?

JrMasterModelBuilder 28-Sep-18 12:59 PM

It's a false-positive, you can ignore it.

Hexadecimal Mantis 28-Sep-18 01:00 PM

^

r543 (@mention for replies) 28-Sep-18 07:53 PM

Has that not been sorted out yet?

omegalucas 29-Sep-18 05:37 AM

Click on details and it should have an option like "go to the website anyway"

JrMasterModelBuilder 29-Sep-18 03:16 PM

Not sorted out yet.

UltimateAura 30-Sep-18 04:33 PM

Well I've run into more problems while playing. I'm guessing it probably has something to do with my system or something went wrong with installing After the first boss battle (with the scorpion thing) I'm unable to progress and if I try digging away the small digging spot that comes right before it the game crashes for no reason

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Sep-18 04:37 PM

no, that's a known bug

play the beta instead of the alpha

UltimateAura 30-Sep-18 04:38 PM

Ah alright

UltimateAura 03-Oct-18 01:56 PM

My game keeps crashing whenever I try to load my save file for some reason

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 03-Oct-18 01:56 PM

then you have a crash loop save

send me it and I can try to fix it

UltimateAura 03-Oct-18 02:03 PM

Alright gimme a sec I'll start up discord on my pc

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Oct-18 10:45 PM

So...is this a known bug with the grapple?

Attachment: 2018-10-11_21-36-01.mp4 (3.5 MB)

V A H K I T I 11-Oct-18 10:46 PM

???

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Oct-18 10:47 PM

If you shoot at a grapple point and fire the grapple, the hook instantly hooks onto the point (provided that it's in range of your spheres)

V A H K I T I 11-Oct-18 10:47 PM

That.... that is NOT known, no. O_o

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) @Hexadecimal Mantis ...have fun.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Oct-18 10:47 PM

Just found this while effing around in Gali's Makuta level

I'll make a GitHub issue on it while I'm still awake.

JrMasterModelBuilder 11-Oct-18 11:02 PM

Maybe OSI controlled?

Otherwise might be tough to patch.

Hexadecimal Mantis 11-Oct-18 11:07 PM

the grapple is the best speedrunning multi tool

change my mind

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Oct-18 11:07 PM

There is nothing to change bud

Hexadecimal Mantis 11-Oct-18 11:09 PM

what happened to >No practical application?

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 11-Oct-18 11:11 PM

Bite me.

Hexadecimal Mantis 11-Oct-18 11:12 PM

no u

V A H K I T I 11-Oct-18 11:13 PM

~~Maybe I will.~~

Hexadecimal Mantis 11-Oct-18 11:14 PM

hecc

V A H K I T I 11-Oct-18 11:15 PM

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

~~You'd like it too~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Oct-18 11:16 PM

Um, so it kinda happened in the alpha

I threw a sphere and instantly used the hook, and it put me through the floor

Replicatable too

...So that's fun.

UltimateAura 12-Oct-18 03:52 AM

Gotta try that some time lol

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Oct-18 03:57 AM

@UltimateAura I have something for you https://youtu.be/3acp9iHZqc4

OndrikB

Bionicle The Legend of Mata Nui Beta: Combined Grapple Flying and ...

By combining 2 grapple bugs, you get the best of both worlds AND you are able to control your flight. This allows you to go out of bounds pretty much anywhere

UltimateAura 12-Oct-18 04:21 AM

I'll watch it when I get home lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 10:51 AM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) I think I may have found another use for the grapple + sphere bug.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 10:51 AM

I'm listening

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 10:51 AM

I'll try to get a video of it soon, but I just OHKO'd the Taniwa

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 10:51 AM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

TELL ME

ITS THE MOST FRUSTRATING BOSS

Congratulations, you just set a new world record

G-Bond 13-Oct-18 10:52 AM

who the hell is taniwa?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 10:52 AM

So as a background, I was messing with this in BKIK and accidentally hit a bat with the thing. It took all three hits in quick succession and died

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 10:52 AM

The Water Elemental

G-Bond 13-Oct-18 10:52 AM

ah

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 10:52 AM

So I decided to try it out on a boss

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 10:54 AM

I am trying this on the Vatuka-Nui and it doesn't work

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 10:54 AM

Oh boy, this is a risky thing. Tried it again, missed, and it sent me waaay up into the sky oow

Jesus, I must've timed this perfectly the first time. This is really hard to replicate

I swear it happened, though

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 10:56 AM

I just tried it on the stalactites in Tahu's BOSS

it does not work

I GOT A BLUE FLASH ON THE DRAGON

I MADE HISTORY

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 10:59 AM

Did it take damage?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 10:59 AM

no

but there was a blue flash on his stomach

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 10:59 AM

Also, tried it again on Taniwa. It killed it, but unfortunately it worked too well and negatived out its HP (crashing the game, just like Rock Boi likes to do)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 11:00 AM

do you have footage?

it would still be valid for a speedrun

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 11:00 AM

I must've gotten extremely lucky the first time

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 11:00 AM

that's why I end a level timer when the boss's health goes lower than or equal to 0

~~LOMNHook frame advance mod when~~

@The Cap'm (Reese) do you have footage this time?

Is it with/without the hook?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 11:03 AM

Trying. Hold on.

This is the closest I've gotten to getting it again

Attachment: 2018-10-13_10-04-59.mp4 (6.9 MB)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 11:07 AM

Is it only related to Taniwa or can it be done with other bosses?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 11:07 AM

Took out 2 health, broke my jump

Haven't tried with others yet. Was to busy freaking out about this

Still, I did get footage of it taking out 2 hits (above), so that's at least something. I must've just gotten extremely lucky first time 'round

Really wish I'd gotten my first attempt on camera

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 11:09 AM

I hate that boss so much

I think I'm going to be streaming attempts to reproduce this bug now

For theose who care, twitch.tv/nordki

also, I just got it (2 health), made me levitate and then fly

I just crashed the game

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 11:23 AM

Probably negatived it's health

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 11:24 AM

but the health icons were the same

it still showed 4 dots

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Oct-18 11:26 AM

Hmm. Odd.

When that happened to me, it wiped out the health and then crashed

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-18 11:29 AM

then i didn't negative it

wait

UltimateAura 17-Oct-18 05:02 PM

My game keeps randomly crashing in the first water village. I'm not sure if this is known or not

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-Oct-18 12:52 AM

Alpha or beta?

UltimateAura 19-Oct-18 02:57 AM

Beta

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Oct-18 03:42 PM

Okay, so I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this, but have any Win10 users had trouble with Pohatu's BOSS? When I walk in, 9 times out of ten the image freezes. I can still hear the game in the background (inputs still work), but if I try to fullscreen the game spits this at me: 5696ecb1

This is just entering the map in general, ftr, not even activating the boss himself

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Oct-18 03:53 PM

are you running it with dgVoodoo?

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Oct-18 03:53 PM

Yes.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Oct-18 03:53 PM

and with the newest OSI, I figure

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Oct-18 03:54 PM

It happens with every OSI.

I checked with the launch day one.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Oct-18 03:56 PM

Doesn't happen to me

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Oct-18 03:59 PM

Great. So it's literally just me.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Oct-18 03:59 PM

Yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Oct-18 04:00 PM

sigh

UltimateAura 24-Oct-18 05:36 AM

It sometimes crashes when I leave the boss room after beating it but nothing else

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Oct-18 06:05 AM

which boss room?

Pohatu's?

UltimateAura 24-Oct-18 06:08 AM

Yeah

Oh no wait

I am too tired for this

I mixed up the names in my head

I shouldn't have stayed up till almost 5 am playing AC black flag

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:48 PM

hello i seem to have some problems i have done everything as said in the instructions but when i start it up its a black screen for around 2 seconds and then stops working, is there a fix for that i am using a windows 10.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:48 PM

Alright.

Question: Beta or Alpha?

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:48 PM

beta

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:49 PM

are you using dgVoodoo?

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:49 PM

and whats that?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:49 PM

Show me your "LEGO Bionicle (Beta)" folder

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:50 PM

ok

just a sec

how do i show them? a screenshot?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:51 PM

yeah a screenshot is enough

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:51 PM

ok

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:51 PM

You appear to have neither the patches nor dgVoodoo

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:52 PM

ok how do i get them?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:52 PM

Since you already have the game I will give you the link for manual patching

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:52 PM

ok

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:52 PM

Go to this link and download "PatchB.exe"

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/Patch/

Then put that executable into your folder for the beta and run it

when it asks to overwrite, click "Yes to All"

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:53 PM

ok let it download and i take it in the folder after right

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:53 PM

yes

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:53 PM

good

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:55 PM

so, is it working now?

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:56 PM

its not done downloading yet just 1 more minute

thank you for your help ❤

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:57 PM

So it works now?

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:57 PM

yes

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Oct-18 02:57 PM

I was glad to help

Ax 25-Oct-18 02:58 PM

: )

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 25-Oct-18 04:12 PM

❤

Ax 26-Oct-18 02:59 AM

eh i have a problem again... i saved the game yesterday, and i tried to play it again today but nope still 2 second black screen and then crash what have i done wrong?

and the game now looks like this

Ax 26-Oct-18 03:32 AM

can you help me out?

@Admin Friends (edited)

oh wait forget it i deleted the game and downloaded it again and now it works

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 26-Oct-18 01:59 PM

@ Houseadmins is the moderation staff for the Discord, the staff working on the game is @ Team Litestone

Jalaguy 26-Oct-18 03:41 PM

Getting frequent crashes playing the patched beta on Win 10. So far it's happened: - Upon death after falling on Onua's first crumbling-cliffside sequence - Upon leaving Ga-Koro through its entrance (having already done the path to get the grappling hook) - Upon exiting Pohatu's "shoot the boulders before they collapse your bridge" area Selecting Load Game after one of these crashes also crashes the game again.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 03:57 PM

- Upon death after falling on Onua's first crumbling-cliffside sequence
deaths are known do be finnicky with this game
- Upon leaving Ga-Koro through its entrance (having already done the path to get the grappling hook)
You mean through the STRT trigger?
- Upon exiting Pohatu's "shoot the boulders before they collapse your bridge" area
First time I heard of that 

@Jalaguy Are you absolutely sure that you have the patches?

Jalaguy 26-Oct-18 04:00 PM

I let the launcher download the patch when it asked to, and then allowed it to overwrite existing files as it unpacked, which I assume us how you're supposed to do it?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:00 PM

Yes

Alright, I haven't heard of these issues before, so first: Where are you leaving Ga-Koro from? Is it from where you came in first? (edited)

Jalaguy 26-Oct-18 04:01 PM

Yeah, leaving through the same door you first enter the village. I'd already left and re-entered the village to the path where you get the grappling hook.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:03 PM

Well, you shouldn't need to do that in the first place

You should go to the area where the grappling point is and then to the token door

Jalaguy 26-Oct-18 04:04 PM

True! I think I was trying to look for the gate keeper to give the gate stone too, since I couldn't see her in the village. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 26-Oct-18 04:05 PM

That quest never had a receiving matoran, so there's no need for that. But I actually have had issues backtracking into that room myself.

Jalaguy 26-Oct-18 04:06 PM

Ah, okay!

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:06 PM

And then your crash in Pohatu's level is something I have never heard of

So, did it show an "Unhandled Exception" window or did the game just close?

Jalaguy 26-Oct-18 04:07 PM

Instant close.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:07 PM

that was a shutdown then, not a crash (edited)

Ax 26-Oct-18 04:08 PM

oh ok i just asked for help in the game and a grappling hook sounds like what i am missing

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 26-Oct-18 04:09 PM

yeah

Ax 26-Oct-18 04:09 PM

in #beaverhouse-gaming

Jalaguy 26-Oct-18 04:09 PM

Ah, okay. I actually had another bug in that area, not sure if it's known: after the bridge got collapsed and I died and reset, the bridge was made up of its pieces, floating slowly in mid-air, rather than resetting into a solid object.

Ax 26-Oct-18 04:09 PM

so if it is what i am missing where is it?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:09 PM

I actually had another bug in that area, not sure if it's known: after the bridge got collapsed and I died and reset, the bridge was made up of its pieces, floating slowly in mid-air, rather than resetting into a solid object. known

ShadowDraikana 26-Oct-18 04:09 PM

@Jalaguy Known

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:10 PM

reload the area

ShadowDraikana 26-Oct-18 04:10 PM

Happens more often in SNFL though

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:10 PM

@Ax you needed to get that in the village

Ax 26-Oct-18 04:10 PM

ok

so i will go back and get it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:10 PM

@ShadowDraikana Could you add the grappling claw as a requirement in the OSI for Onua's VLLG?

ShadowDraikana 26-Oct-18 04:11 PM

Probably.

Can try that shortly

Ax 26-Oct-18 04:11 PM

eh the gajme crashed and its stuck cant close it down now i need to restart the computer i guess its the 2nd time it happend

probably a bug

Jalaguy 26-Oct-18 04:12 PM

Cool, ta. And yeah, I was able to backtrack towards Po-Koro and then come back to reset the bridge. Question: do the falling rocks actually stop at point, or are you just supposed to leg it through the exit omce it's open wide enough? I did the latter, and that's when I got the sudden shutdown.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:12 PM

@Ax don't use fullscreen

@Jalaguy actually the latter

never heard of that shutdown though

I'm gonna try it myself, stand by

Ax 26-Oct-18 04:13 PM

im not

its small screen

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Oct-18 04:13 PM

then you can unstick yourself with the task manager

Ax 26-Oct-18 04:13 PM

ok

Zonkerborg 28-Oct-18 01:52 PM

Hey

im recieving an error for the bionicle game

before i can play it when i launch it i recieve unhandled exception:c000000

at addressL 0056476c

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Oct-18 01:53 PM

Do you have the patches?

Zonkerborg 28-Oct-18 01:53 PM

i dont think so

where can i get the patch?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Oct-18 01:55 PM

Download the launcher at bit.ly/LegendNoLonger Install it and click “Play Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui (Beta)” If it asks to download something, click “Yes”.

Zonkerborg 28-Oct-18 01:55 PM

ok

thanks

does the alpha not work?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Oct-18 01:56 PM

It works too, but the beta is better in general because you can actually complete the levels there

Zonkerborg 28-Oct-18 01:56 PM

aah

ok thanks!

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Oct-18 01:56 PM

You’re welcome

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-Oct-18 11:16 PM

Seems like dying in Makuta after beating the Taratoka causes a crash

This is what dying in ONUA gave me: 5e2ececc

(as a crash address)

On a perhaps related note, this address pops up quite often: 1001d6d3

This happens to me when loading Gali's level without saving the village, has happened to me on entering HK01 in Lev2 a couple of times, and just happened to me when entering Ko-Koro after going from O > K

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Nov-18 02:38 PM

@V A H K I T I So I'm getting this in the debug file when I try and open the launcher on this computer: [0228/172258.703:WARNING:dns_config_service_win.cc(669)] Failed to read DnsConfig. (edited)

Not sure what's happening.

SharpieSkunk 02-Nov-18 12:28 PM

Okay I've got two things

Both are with the Beta build

okay never mind one of them is already reported

but in both the alpha and beta builds my inventory looks like this

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Nov-18 12:31 PM

WHAT

SharpieSkunk 02-Nov-18 12:31 PM

I'm just as confused as you are

V A H K I T I 02-Nov-18 12:32 PM

....Scuzi? O_o

SharpieSkunk 02-Nov-18 12:32 PM

here are my directx dgvoodoo settings

and my general settings

for comparison this is what it looks like in the alpha build

I'm on Windows 10 with Intel HD integrated graphics

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Nov-18 12:41 PM

If you have an integrated graphics card, set it manually to run on your better card instead. I don't know if it'll fix the issue, but you will get better performance

SharpieSkunk 02-Nov-18 12:41 PM

oh performance is fine

this is just a toshiba satellite laptop and I don't exactly have a better graphics card to run on

Hexadecimal Mantis 02-Nov-18 12:42 PM

What the actual fuck

Is your gpu dying or something?

SharpieSkunk 02-Nov-18 12:43 PM

It runs fine everywhere else

it's just these two screens that fuck up

this is the alpha's Bionicle.ini

and this is the beta's

SharpieSkunk 02-Nov-18 12:59 PM

the texture files themselves are fine

or at least the alpha build's are

I can't find the inventory texture for the beta build

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Nov-18 01:04 PM

the files are fine, it's something else

the inventory texture there is in a blk file

SharpieSkunk 02-Nov-18 01:05 PM

ah

Since it was a more complete build the files are cleaner and compressed

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Nov-18 01:05 PM

yes

ShadowDraikana 02-Nov-18 01:08 PM

cleaner laughing hysterically

SharpieSkunk 02-Nov-18 01:11 PM

cleaner as in more organized and with less "new folder"

ShadowDraikana 02-Nov-18 01:14 PM

they just chucked all the garbage into the blks for the most part. art blk is a mess because all of the folders from the alpha got merged and dumped into there for example.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Nov-18 01:14 PM

ESPECIALLY the Lev6 blks

there are files there clearly labeled as "Copy of"

ShadowDraikana 02-Nov-18 01:15 PM

Yeah those are an absolute disaster

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Nov-18 01:15 PM

I was able to find a 17 year old text file with some coordinates

(presumably the ball in TA05)

Jalaguy 04-Nov-18 03:40 PM

What's the current situation with the horns inside the Ga-Koro Kaukau waterfall? A search of the server brought up old references to issues with the grapple not disabling as intended so they can be triggered with Space, and that's what I'm currently getting on Win10.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Nov-18 03:41 PM

They’re triggered with Q

Jalaguy 04-Nov-18 03:43 PM

Ah, cool, thank you!

Jalaguy 04-Nov-18 03:59 PM

Can I also ask what token count the the door to vtnl should be triggering off? Not only did I barely have any tokens by the time I went to it (one or two from vlgs), but I couldn't get it to open no matter how many I gave myself with the test menu...

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 03:59 PM

2.

You also need the hook and mask

(the Rau)

From MTOP

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Nov-18 03:59 PM

The door isn’t working in the patch you have, use the debug camera @Jalaguy

This will be fixed in 1.2

V A H K I T I 04-Nov-18 04:01 PM

?

It's not?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Nov-18 04:01 PM

Why would it be in the 1.2 patch notes with the note that it has been fixed if it was working all the time?

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 04:02 PM

It broke right before the patch went out, and we found it about a day after

V A H K I T I 04-Nov-18 04:02 PM

Ah

That explains it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Nov-18 04:02 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 07:32 PM

So it seems like the Tsunami Glyph respawns infinitely as long as you leave and re-enter GLY3

Attachment: 2018-11-04_18-30-46.mp4 (6.92 MB)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Nov-18 02:08 PM

There's a bug relating to language switching

If you switch a language without restarting the game and talk to someone, the Press SPACE to continue text still shows up in the old language

I even tried switching languages through the front end to force it to reload the fluff file, but it still occurs (edited)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 06-Nov-18 02:14 PM

rip

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Nov-18 02:16 PM

Indeed, my friend.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Nov-18 03:25 PM

There is a massive bug with jumping: Spamming Escape after you’ve jumped makes you go further

And it allows you to clear some jumps like in ATRM

V A H K I T I 08-Nov-18 03:26 PM

Oh boy

Enhanced pause buffering

@Hexadecimal Mantis

Your time is now. xP

Do us proud, and perform the BLJ in LOMN.

Roblord 08-Nov-18 03:28 PM

~~Implementing actual BLJ when~~

V A H K I T I 08-Nov-18 03:29 PM

Simpleflips intensifies

Roblord 08-Nov-18 03:30 PM

We need PUs in LoMN then to compensate

Hexadecimal Mantis 08-Nov-18 03:31 PM

I was the first person to mention pause buffering in lomn

but nobody cared

Freerey 09-Nov-18 12:40 AM

huh....so I looked here and saw that somebody commented here on May 23 about how Tahu freezes when you look into his inventory at the shrine in Ta-Koro, but there's no picture of it

well, here's a picture of it

*beta build, fyi

I don't think we even had our hands on the beta until June or something

V A H K I T I 09-Nov-18 12:42 AM

No we got it in May

We had it in April actually, but the release was delayed

But yeah, it seems to be reusing the glossary text too

Freerey 09-Nov-18 12:47 AM

ah well alrigth

SharpieSkunk 09-Nov-18 11:41 PM

It's like the Onua glossary text is some universal constant

Comparable to the Cerberus Vae intro narration

which is a meme because whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather, he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank just outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Nov-18 02:45 PM

Was testing TA14, and this happened. https://youtu.be/HPwqz6z2xJk

Reese Bagshaw

So I have no idea what this is in TA14

I'm not sure what this is.

I've seen this exactly once.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Nov-18 03:49 PM

Oh, and here are some weird issues involving the shooting mechanics

Tahu, Kopaka, and Lewa all have an issue with their running jump whilst shooting: (edited)

Attachment: 2018-11-13_14-37-38.mp4 (7.93 MB)

(note: I am clicking once to shoot)

Tahu's right strafe has a similar issue:

Attachment: 2018-11-13_14-35-20.mp4 (4.66 MB)

And Lewa's strafe jump has it as well:

Attachment: 2018-11-13_14-47-15.mp4 (6.04 MB)

This last one I didn't snap a vid of, but it also happens with Gali's standing jump while shooting

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 12:58 PM

So uh

Random new bug found on the fly

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 12:58 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Nov-18 12:58 PM

I think I had that too

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 12:58 PM

Died while the Taratoka Nui was breathing fire. Fire didn;t despawn

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 12:58 PM

Oof

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 12:59 PM

It goes away if he makes another one

🐠 Magikarp 18-Nov-18 01:00 PM

Tfw you guys are making bionicle dark souls

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 02:24 PM

So I guess there's a point in MTOP where you can get stuck

Attachment: 2018-11-18_13-23-17.mp4 (6.48 MB)

FTR, the thing where she pops up and down from standing to swimming is happening so quickly that OBS isn't recording it. Like, it's doing it so fast that OBS only shows her in one state, but on my screen it looks like she's in both at once

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Nov-18 02:28 PM

Yes, I had that too

I can show it in action

Attachment: 2018-11-18_20-29-17.mp4 (1.01 MB)

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 02:34 PM

The easy solution here would be to remove the water BCL, but that would also remove the footstep effects.

Not to mention negate the deep area.

What I may do is just make the drop to said area steeper so there's less room for.. this to happen.

I'll work on that now since I don't really have anything better to do.

Ah

Forgot it was only the alpha version with a deep area

Well this is easy then, I'll just lower the water level

It's kinda high being up to Gali's fucking shoulders anyways

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 02:46 PM

Much better

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 02:46 PM

Nice

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 02:47 PM

Just lowered the water position in the obj slb by 2

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 02:47 PM

Good stuff

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 02:49 PM

Updated the main patch assets accordingly.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 02:50 PM

Optional'll need it too

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 02:50 PM

Optional never changed anything in MTOP

Optional patch only includes assets that differ from the main patch in some way.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 02:51 PM

ah

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 02:51 PM

That's why it doesn' even have an executable.

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 03:02 PM

Weird about the shooting btw. it just fires one when you hold the button?

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 03:03 PM

Just the opposite, actually

It fires multiple when you click once, just very delayed

The animation continues even after one quick click

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 03:03 PM

Oooooh

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 03:04 PM

And it's only a select few animations

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 03:04 PM

Well that might just be a movelist issue then

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 03:04 PM

I think Pohatu and Lewa have this with their melee as well

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 03:04 PM

How can that be an issue with the melee..?

It's literally a one shot function. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 03:05 PM

It does the melee, then fires one immediately after. It happened with Pohatu earlier today while I was playing his level, and I seem to recall it happening with Lewa

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 03:05 PM

I've never seen that happen.

Unless you're holding the button during the melee?

Cause yeah, if you do that, it'll fire something when the melee is done

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 03:06 PM

Go to Lev3, and click once to melee. Don't hold it.

*on a Rahi

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 03:07 PM

Huh

Guess I just never noticed it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 03:07 PM

Yep, Lewa does it too (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 03:07 PM

Could still be a movelist issue. Ie: it's trying to perform both actions at the same time, but one has to complete before the other can play.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Nov-18 03:07 PM

Could be

Gali does it as well. Onua, Kopaka, and Tahu are all exempt from this issue.

V A H K I T I 18-Nov-18 03:15 PM

Odd

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 10:41 AM

https://youtu.be/VAJ_SBJjI2Y

Reese Bagshaw

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - TA05 Animation Bug (Alpha v0.006)

So somehow, I got Tahu to keep in his normal animations when on the surfboard in TA05. No real idea how.

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Nov-18 06:57 AM

oh they still here

Attachment: 2018-11-26_05-55-54.mp4 (5.52 MB)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Nov-18 11:07 AM

oof

G-Bond 27-Nov-18 08:47 PM

has anyone reported this yet

ShadowDraikana 28-Nov-18 03:12 PM

reporting just a crash address tells us absolutely nothing. Please be specific about what you were doing when the crash happened.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Nov-18 03:19 PM

I'm guessing this is L1A7, given the address

PrincessReirei 28-Nov-18 05:33 PM

I installed the launcher to the default location C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle Launcher, and when I run [BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui Launcher.exe] as administrator nothing happens

well not quite nothing happens; I get the little blue circle next to my mouse for about half a second and then it goes away and nothing else happens

so presumably it does "do something" briefly, but does not result in like, a window opening or anything happening (edited)

V A H K I T I 28-Nov-18 08:53 PM

What OS are you on?

PrincessReirei 28-Nov-18 09:37 PM

windows 10

SharpieSkunk 29-Nov-18 11:02 AM

check task manager

it could be half-running in the background

ScrapMetaru 29-Nov-18 05:37 PM

What kind of anti-virus do you have? If it's something like avast and it interrupts the installation to scan it, that seems to confuse the entire installation process, even if the scan finds no issues and resumes the program. I find it's best to do anything involving LoMN with your anti-virus momentarily turned off.

rob the corn lover 30-Nov-18 10:47 AM

i have a crash when i was playing gali

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 10:47 AM

Where were you trying to go?

rob the corn lover 30-Nov-18 10:51 AM

this way

G-Bond 30-Nov-18 10:54 AM

About that crash address After I got the Hau I went back to the entrance and went to the second door and it crashed

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 10:55 AM

@rob the corn lover Your issue will be fixed in the next patch. Try restarting the game @G-Bond This address is known, but it hasn't been reported in that area. What's your OS?

G-Bond 30-Nov-18 10:55 AM

Windows 7

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 10:56 AM

I think this is the first reported case of this address happening on Windows 7

G-Bond 30-Nov-18 10:56 AM

ah

rob the corn lover 30-Nov-18 10:57 AM

how to restart game?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 10:57 AM

just quit and start it again

G-Bond 30-Nov-18 10:57 AM

Might not be what it is at all but I think it has to do with you dying alot within the area.

rob the corn lover 30-Nov-18 10:58 AM

crashed when i pressed level2 gali (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 10:59 AM

@rob the corn lover ......

I think that'll also be fixed later

PrincessReirei 30-Nov-18 05:56 PM

uninstalled and deleted everything, disabled antivirus, reinstalled from scratch in the default location on the c drive, still nothing happens

there doesn't appear to be any process in the task manager

what would the launcher's process be called in the task manager? so I know what to look for

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 05:58 PM

You can run the game without the launcher

If you really cant get it working

PrincessReirei 30-Nov-18 05:59 PM

how would I get the patches for it though?

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 06:00 PM

They are on the biomedia project site. I have a URL for it. The launcher literally just downloads that from the URL and extracts it to the install directory

PrincessReirei 30-Nov-18 06:01 PM

ok, if you could give me that url I'd really appreciate it

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 06:02 PM

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/Patch/PatchB.exe

Just extract that and merge the contents with the install directory of the game

PrincessReirei 30-Nov-18 06:04 PM

gonna just go ahead and ask the stupid question to be sure, can you extract from an exe file?

I assume yes

ok yup

and I've set it to compatibility with windows xp service pack 3; theres a choice between sp2 and sp3, does that matter?

ok yeah the game works fine

so the launcher seems to have some issue

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 06:39 PM

Yea the launcher might have some compatibility issues

I'll bug @V A H K I T I about it later

V A H K I T I 30-Nov-18 06:40 PM

Actually most of the code is benji's now

So

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 06:40 PM

Oof

We should still fix that

V A H K I T I 30-Nov-18 06:43 PM

What OS is our guy here on?

And what version of .NET framework does he have installed?

Cause IIRC the launcher is only compiled for a minimum of 4.0 right now.

(Which isn't necessary at all, so should be addressed)

PrincessReirei 01-Dec-18 03:09 AM

I'm not a guy but i'm on windows 10 and the highest version of .net framework i have installed is 3.5. (edited)

I'll update to the newest and see if that changes anything

installing .net framework 4.7.2 doesn't change it

but I probably should have updated that anyway

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 07:38 PM

So, the Vatuka Nui's health bar and name aren't showing up. Also, the rock to the left of the start position is higher than the ground. I don't remember if it was always like that, but I don't think so.

This may just be because I loaded my save from the menu. It might not be.

UTTER_BODGE 05-Dec-18 07:40 PM

Also, the rock to the left of the start position is higher than the ground. I don't remember if it was always like that, but I don't think so. always was

wouldn't take long to fix though

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 07:41 PM

@Metroidwave If you're playing in widescreen, none of the health bars render correctly.

This is a known viewport issue

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 07:41 PM

Never mind then.

UTTER_BODGE 05-Dec-18 07:42 PM

so, tonight I'll - install the game via the patcher and whatnot - fix onua cave mushroom lighting - fix that rock in the mud monster area

I'm committed now, better get going

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 07:43 PM

Ayy

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 02:16 PM

oh here's a random tidbit. Loading a save after going all the way through Lev7 (getting the crash on exiting TAHU) puts you in ONUA as Tahu

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Dec-18 02:16 PM

because it's supposed to put you at

(4 spaces)

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 06:15 PM

Why did you guys re-enable the FMVs? now the game crashes as soon as it starts.

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 06:15 PM

What resolution are you playing at?

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 06:16 PM

1280x720

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 06:16 PM

Well there's your answer

~~Read the patch notes boi~~

Hexadecimal Mantis 06-Dec-18 06:16 PM

it breaks with that

but you could disable them if you want

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 06:16 PM

that says unless in widescreen

"FMVs do not currently work unless compatibility mode is set to XP, (any Service Pack ver.) or in widescreen mode. "

Hexadecimal Mantis 06-Dec-18 06:17 PM

that is widescreen

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 06:17 PM

I think you're misunderstanding the wording.

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 06:17 PM

yes.

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 06:17 PM

To clarify: FMVs ONLY work in 4:3.

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 06:17 PM

ok.

that did it. the FMVs seem to force fullscreen though.

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 06:20 PM

Only until they end.

It's just part of how the game enables window mode currently

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 06:24 PM

Alright.

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 07:10 PM

Gali won't load. I've killed Vatuka three times now, it won't even put me in her level as Onua like it used to.

I'm gonna delete Vatuka if I have to fight him again.

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:12 PM

What exactly happens when you try to leave the boss arena?

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 07:13 PM

a straight crash with an address.

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:13 PM

And the address was?

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 07:13 PM

goddamnit, gimme a minute.

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 07:14 PM

Don't you "goddammit" us, we're not responsible for just figuring shit out without any useful info.

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 07:16 PM

sorry.

unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 1001d6d3

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:18 PM

Oh boy, that old thing

IIRC that crash means a model issue?

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 07:20 PM

does that mean I lost a file in the update? do I have to reinstall?

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:21 PM

No, that means it's an issue with the map itself, nothing installed improperly

Saffire's mistake, not ours or yours

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 07:25 PM

Are you sure you got that address right?

"1001d6d3" Is not a valid address

ShadowDraikana 06-Dec-18 07:25 PM

????????????????????????????

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:25 PM

Dude we've gotten that one before

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 07:25 PM

Unless I'm searching in IDA wrong

ShadowDraikana 06-Dec-18 07:25 PM

That's what Reese and I think Ondrik have gotten

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:25 PM

Both here and elsewhere

JrMasterModelBuilder 06-Dec-18 07:26 PM

Some crash addresses may be in external binaries. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:26 PM

VLGS crashes there IIRC sometimes

It has happened plenty on loading Lev2

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 07:27 PM

I'd have to agree with JMMB on this one, cause the EXE itself only spans 00401000 to 0083B511.

Again, unless I'm looking at it wrong

~~I probably am~~

Ye, apparently it was messed up in text view

It runs fine under debug

weird

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:28 PM

Regardless, this isn't a new address

V A H K I T I 06-Dec-18 07:29 PM

All the same, JMMB is right. This seems to be an error in D3dx8cw.dll

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 07:54 PM

Okay what the hell. The fifth Vatuka kill let me through. I'm Gali, in Gali's level, and the cutscene played.

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Dec-18 07:55 PM

Yeah, the 100 crash is very inconsistent. I can relate to your frustration

ScrapMetaru 06-Dec-18 08:02 PM

Did Gali already have an untextured left gear? And I mean just the left one. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 07:31 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 07:43 PM

Fixed in optional. Moving to main now.

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 07:44 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 07:45 PM

"Thanks you"

It's a typo.

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 07:45 PM

O

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 07:45 PM

In the vein of "I wonder what is says..."

Hexadecimal Mantis 07-Dec-18 07:46 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) Make sure you use the latest version of my stringtable thing. It simplifies the whole process

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 07:46 PM

I have been

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 08:00 PM

And done.

Hexadecimal Mantis 07-Dec-18 08:08 PM

im tempted to finish this stringtable endeavor and just suck it up and make a gui

it would probably solve the remaining issues

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 08:16 PM

Hexadecimal Mantis 07-Dec-18 08:17 PM

Maybe it will just end up being shoefitter-dx

who knows

wtf

010 wants to make me buy another license

just because it got updated to 9.0

thats actual bullshit

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 08:20 PM

Oof

Hexadecimal Mantis 07-Dec-18 08:28 PM

the final thing I might do with my current strintable creator would be to remove the need for the length bytes in the input file

that wouldn't be too hard, but does anyone really care if they are there or noT?

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 08:42 PM

Okay, so masks in the inventory screen are fucked in levels 2, 3, 5, and 6. Here's how they get logged: Lev2: Rau doesn't log, Kaukau logs as Rau Lev3: Komau logs as Kakama, Kakama logs as Komau Lev5: Mahiki doesn't log, Miru works as it should Lev6: Hau logs as Vahi, Vahi logs as Hau

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 09:29 PM

Oh boi Lev4 isn't any better. The items only log in the menu when you deliver them, the disc logs as the skates and the skates register as the element of melting. The element of melting, however, isn't logged at all, so the disc graphic never appears in the menu. (edited)

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 09:31 PM

._.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 10:36 PM

No such issue with Lev5, but I did find the Volo Lutu guy

He just starts off spawned in the floor next to the entrance to TURA before eventually popping up

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 10:36 PM

o

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 10:37 PM

Two Matoran actually spawn in the floor, but the other doesn't say anything

Lev6's collectables are also OK

Oh, and Volo Lutu boi does indeed take his item

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 10:43 PM

Nice

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 10:44 PM

So it's just the Blue Spider guy who doesn't take his item now (excluding the non-existant Gate Stone and Winch Lever Matoran)

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 10:44 PM

ye

I'm tempted to try and set up Ta-Koro like MNOG with the latter.

Ie: Give the level back to the gate guy, raise the bridge to the village

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 10:46 PM

Yeah, I think that was the original plan

(thus why I wrote the dialogue that way for the alpha and op patch

)

V A H K I T I 07-Dec-18 10:46 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Dec-18 11:33 PM

Huh. Loading a save fixes the grappling hook texture bug

(ex. Going L > T normally has the grapple stay as the axe, but if you load a save in T, it switches to the proper sword)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 09:34 AM

oh boi

https://youtu.be/8fDBj7BqMnk

OndrikB

Bionicle The Legend of Mata Nui Beta: Breaking the Volo Lutu quest...

WARNING: There are flashing images in the first 15 seconds of the video So, it has been discovered that the Matoran that's looking for the Volo Lutu will giv...

Just watch this (epilepsy warning)

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Dec-18 09:37 AM

There are a few quest NPCs that continue to give rewards if you keep talking to them

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 09:37 AM

yup

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Dec-18 09:37 AM

All of them in Lev6 do, for example

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 09:37 AM

same happens with disc in Le-Koro

When experimenting with this, I got pushed out of bounds on 2 different occasions

I was able to lag my game from 200 to 160 fps

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Dec-18 09:45 AM

On the topic of lev7's inventory, it doesn't log each Toa as having all their masks, and only logs them having a Makoki Stone once you've switched to the next Toa. Pretty sure this one was known, but since I looked at the rest of the levels I figured I'd reiterate.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 09:50 AM

ahhahahaahah

I was able to pick up all the health, energy and ammo at once

It's oddly satisfying

ScrapMetaru 08-Dec-18 02:29 PM

So what's the cheese-method for beating the Stone Elemental? I kinda wanna go to Kopaka.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Dec-18 02:30 PM

~~debug camera past it~~ There's a very specific place where you can shoot it before the fight starts to kill it in one hit

IIRC @V A H K I T I found it

It's near the bottom of the rock pile

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 02:38 PM

yeah

I got the fight done in 4 seconds thanks to it

ScrapMetaru 08-Dec-18 02:40 PM

just gonna go ahead and post this crash address in case it's any kind of special: Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 0047b40f caused by shooting the rock pile from several meters outside of the arena.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Dec-18 02:41 PM

You negatived its health

It's a very specific spot you need to shoot or it'll kill it too much

ScrapMetaru 08-Dec-18 02:43 PM

Is the rock I need to hit more to the left or right?

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Dec-18 02:43 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) You know this more than I do.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 02:49 PM

@ScrapMetaru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqM3fILkIlI

OndrikB

[old] Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui - Boss Rush: Vatopa-Nui in 4.25

Timesave potential: Pretty much none lol. Record exhausted after minutes of being discovered

ScrapMetaru 08-Dec-18 02:56 PM

Yeah, I can't do it.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 02:56 PM

it requires some practice

ScrapMetaru 08-Dec-18 02:57 PM

Do you have a video where the Kakama isn't active?

or is that integral?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 02:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7xBxF6DySQ

OndrikB

[old] Bionicle; The Legend of Mata Nui - Vatopa Nui Boss Rush in 8.10

Overall timesave potential: 2.5 seconds (lining up & using Kakama)

ScrapMetaru 08-Dec-18 03:05 PM

Holy fuck, I did it. Thanks.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 03:05 PM

you're welcome

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 04:38 PM

Yo can someone tell me where the other dance of onua matoran are? They are invisible

plz, thanks

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 04:39 PM

beta or alpha?

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Dec-18 04:39 PM

Alpha. THey aren't in beta rn, remember?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 04:39 PM

yeah

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 04:40 PM

yeah, alpha

like im playing atm and im stuck

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 04:40 PM

one is to the right of whenua's hut at the end of the river

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 04:42 PM

can't find it

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 04:42 PM

Just look for the shadows dude

ShadowDraikana 08-Dec-18 04:42 PM

^

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 04:43 PM

In the meantime, I'm gonna tinker with some things to try and finally knock this one out proper

Cause this issue is getting annoying

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 04:44 PM

oh

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Dec-18 04:44 PM

Here they are

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 04:45 PM

Ah thank you, yeah the shadows don't show up even for the visible ones

ShadowDraikana 08-Dec-18 04:46 PM

Reminds me that we really need to get dynamic shadows for this stuff

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 04:46 PM

HA

I FIXED IT

I took the default villager BHD and replaced all the 1hat animation ones with renamed versions of it (edited)

THIS BUG CAN FINALLY BE SQUASHED

Attachment: Anims.rar (3.99 KB)

@Constraction_Deva Try putting these into: Data/Characters/1hat/Anims.

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 04:48 PM

thanks

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 04:49 PM

Let me know if that works

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 04:49 PM

I am about to go to dinner but I will let you know

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 04:50 PM

Aight

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 04:58 PM

wait, how do I get to that folder?

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 04:59 PM

C:\Program Files (x86)\LEGO Media\LEGO Bionicle

Hexadecimal Mantis 08-Dec-18 04:59 PM

^

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 05:02 PM

If this works, I can remove the dancy boi cleanup from the launcher code.

~~Apparently it's not working right anyways~~

May still need somebody's help with the test menu checkbox however

ShadowDraikana 08-Dec-18 05:07 PM

The ORIGINAL folder still needs to be nuked

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 05:07 PM

Ye

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 07:27 PM

so.... I put that file into the folder you told me to put it in and now when I start up the game the intro glitches and then it closes

like the lego cinematic at the beginning

now I took it out and it's still broken

oh wait, it just happens with the resolution I was on

do you guys know why this is? It was 1920x1080

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 07:31 PM

Yeah we don't know why that happens

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 07:32 PM

what resolution do you recommend I play on to get the fullest screen?

also, I just put the file back in and the dancing matoran are still invisible. Do I have to start a new game or is there something else I have to do with the file to make it work?

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 07:35 PM

You... didn't unzip the file, did you?

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 07:35 PM

nah, what does that mean?

im a baby when it comes to computer stuff

I rarely ever play videogames even

How do unzip the file?

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 07:38 PM

Just open it

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 07:40 PM

what now?

do I have to open it outside the folder I put it in or something? (edited)

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 07:55 PM

I have no idea how in this dying earth you managed to open a rar file with.. that but here. Try this instead then.

Attachment: Anims.zip (4.55 KB)

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 07:59 PM

ah, so do I click extract all?

or just move everything in it to the folder

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 07:59 PM

Move

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 07:59 PM

and hit replace?

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 07:59 PM

ye

Constraction_Deva 08-Dec-18 08:01 PM

Ayy, it worked!

thanks

V A H K I T I 08-Dec-18 08:02 PM

Nice.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 08-Dec-18 08:10 PM

@Constraction_Deva I had no idea you were clumsy with computers

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 09-Dec-18 10:24 AM

okay

new bug

Re-entering WELL makes the glyph disappear

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Dec-18 10:26 AM

Disappear, and become inactive as an item (use akaku to see the model)

That's odd.

Leumeister 11-Dec-18 03:06 AM

Who's this guy? He's just here, and doesn't say anything

Also, the Kane-Ra (I think) has a really weird issue with momentum, where it's continually accelerating forward, even if it's falling, so if I fall into a bottomless pit, and hit a wall, it takes an almost agonizingly long time.

I got stuck on the ceiling in a series of tunnels with the same glitch

V A H K I T I 11-Dec-18 03:07 AM

He didn't even have a mask or colours until we got to him. As for the Kane Ra, we're aware

Leumeister 11-Dec-18 03:08 AM

Yeah, I thought he looked different this time around... Was that part of the latest patch?

V A H K I T I 11-Dec-18 03:08 AM

No

Leumeister 11-Dec-18 03:08 AM

I played this level Saturday.

I otherwise haven't played this level yet.

Also, there's a weird flower thing in the Labyrinth Zone in Gali's level.

You know the part where you freak out if you don't hit the collision box of an air bubble in time? :P

Leumeister 11-Dec-18 03:30 AM

Well, this just happened

I think I heard something like this happening in Lewa's level too

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Dec-18 03:49 AM

Ye, that’s known. Here’s a video of it: https://youtu.be/8fDBj7BqMnk

OndrikB

Bionicle The Legend of Mata Nui Beta: Breaking the Volo Lutu quest...

WARNING: There are flashing images in the first 15 seconds of the video So, it has been discovered that the Matoran that's looking for the Volo Lutu will giv...

Leumeister 11-Dec-18 04:30 AM

Did this when I tried to do Stone Rain. Also crashes when I shoot an energy ball

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Dec-18 04:46 AM

yeah

you can either get hit with the attack from the elemental or you can hit it at a very precise spot before it wakes up to instakill it

Leumeister 11-Dec-18 04:48 AM

I figured that first one out. I thought it was patched since I think Jamesster uploaded the Pohatu Wins by doing Absolutely Nothing video... :P

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Dec-18 04:48 AM

No, it’s not patched

Leumeister 11-Dec-18 04:50 AM

Ah

And, also, I like how each toa has their own set of animations... But does Kopaka really have to ice skate?

ScrapMetaru 11-Dec-18 08:23 PM

This was Lewa's ruru slide. Is this known?

ShadowDraikana 11-Dec-18 08:24 PM

yep

the killbox there is a mess

Leumeister 12-Dec-18 01:33 AM

Is Lewa's boss battle supposed to be this OP?

And his hurricane attack seems to do nothing.

And can the deathfloor in that pool below the wind elemental (I forget its name) be solidified? It makes this one way too hard, otherwise.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Dec-18 10:26 AM

>Is Lewa's boss battle supposed to be this OP? The attack is nigh unavoidable at 60 fps. Hide behind the pillars >And his hurricane attack seems to do nothing. That's because it does nothing >And can the deathfloor in that pool below the wind elemental (I forget its name) be solidified? It makes this one way too hard, otherwise. what do you mean? (edited)

Leumeister 13-Dec-18 02:16 AM

Gotcha...

Well, that's useless. :P It literally only works with rahi.

It's the level exit. I fall through it all the time when I get caught up in the tornado and die.

I managed to finish the boss, though.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Dec-18 02:17 AM

nice

Leumeister 13-Dec-18 02:18 AM

Lewa's level's pretty good.

He's my favorite of the Toa Mata.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Dec-18 02:30 PM

ummm

okay

that's a new bug

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Dec-18 02:39 PM

and another

Leumeister 16-Dec-18 02:34 AM

What are?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-Dec-18 02:35 AM

One was with loading, another was with SPCV

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-Dec-18 04:43 AM

WHAT THE FUCK

Dying in CLF1 resets the bridge

V A H K I T I 16-Dec-18 04:43 AM

That's... normal??

Oh wait, clf1 is the one with the button

I get clf1 and l1a3 mixed up

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 08:59 PM

I just found a deathloop.

I jumped in the water inside Naho(nahu?) Falls, and my screen went black.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 08:59 PM

Was the grappling hook out?

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 08:59 PM

Then I respawned somewhere else entirely...

Died.

Respawned there again, with just my mask.

Repeated, all the while hearing the elemental energy pickup sound and the Zhhjjzjjzjzjhhghhhh of a killfloor killing your killed self over and over again.

No, it wasn't.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:01 PM

The energy pickup is the respawn noise, I can say that at least

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:01 PM

Ah.

Yikes.

Well, it was inexplicable.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:01 PM

Can you replicate this consistently?

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:02 PM

IDK.

I'll see.

Nope.

Another bug.

Sometimes, while I'm swimming underneath Ga-Koro, I fall out of the water and onto the sea floor.

I managed to trigger it when jumping underneath a lily-pad.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:04 PM

Known bug. The alpha's water physics are...let's say "incomplete."

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:05 PM

XD

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:05 PM

It also happens a lot when you are supposed to enter an area underwater. You'll be underwater for 2 seconds before the game acts like you're on land

(see TTUN, GLY2, GLY3)

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:06 PM

Also, drawing issues when playing at the recommended resolution (the only resolution that the FMVs will play without crashing) after alt+Tabbing

Seems to be something wrong with the Z-buffer?

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:07 PM

That, I'm not the expert on. Probably known, just not my area of expertise.

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:07 PM

Okay

Also, just got the grappling hook legally, and now I don't have it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:08 PM

What?

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:09 PM

I mean... It won't fire when I press space. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:09 PM

O_o

So you collected it, pressed space, and nothing happened?

That's the exact series of events?

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:10 PM

Yep.

Having cheated it in beforehand may be an issue.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:11 PM

Huh. That's a puzzle. Try restarting the game, starting a new game in Gali's level, and collecting it again.

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:13 PM

The cutscenes in the alpha are so cinematic!

That one where Gali dives off the Kaukau water fall!

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Dec-18 09:14 PM

Yeah.

Did the hook work?

Leumeister 18-Dec-18 09:14 PM

No, but I'll replay it.

2Tie 20-Dec-18 12:15 AM

launched the game for the first time on this machine, took a look at the options, in controls i selected keyboard + mouselook instead of backing out, then closed and reopened the game and now the fourth save looks like this.

didn't see anything on the github mention this, so

on the initial launch it was a New Game like 2 and 3

loading it starts the first level

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Dec-18 12:18 AM

yeah

the save file is corrupted in that case

This can also happen when switching languages

It has also happened before

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 27-Dec-18 03:49 PM

@ScrapMetaru

[3:41 PM] Scrap Metaru: Not sure if this goes in bonkles or gaming, but what does this mean?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/413069089477492737/527949156178984985/Screenshot_22.png (edited)

benji 27-Dec-18 05:25 PM

That's not LOMN

Hexadecimal Mantis 27-Dec-18 05:31 PM

what is LOMN?

G-Bond 27-Dec-18 05:38 PM

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 27-Dec-18 05:57 PM

i didn't zoom into the screenshot; i just assume when people ask these things they're asking about LOMN. (edited)

benji 27-Dec-18 06:02 PM

This person doesn't have anything set to open .swf files

benji 27-Dec-18 06:17 PM

They should install flash projector

ScrapMetaru 27-Dec-18 06:33 PM

I have flash. it's still not opening.

JrMasterModelBuilder 27-Dec-18 06:33 PM

You would need to have .swf files set to open with a Stand Alone Flash Player.

ScrapMetaru 27-Dec-18 06:39 PM

what does that mean?

JrMasterModelBuilder 27-Dec-18 06:44 PM

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028161/windows-10-change-default-programs

Change default programs in Windows 10

Use Settings in Windows 10 to change default apps and programs.

ScrapMetaru 27-Dec-18 07:02 PM

I got it working.

FPS FTW 29-Dec-18 07:13 PM

The mask power key doesn’t work smoothly. Usually needs more than one press to be activated and it seems to almost never work while doing anything else. (edited)

Fobo 04-Jan-19 07:38 PM

So I dont feel this an important bug per say but sometimes I noticed, the matoran in ta-koro will wander off into lava

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jan-19 07:38 PM

Known bug.

Fobo 04-Jan-19 07:39 PM

doesnt make it less amusing, lol

FPS FTW 04-Jan-19 10:32 PM

Beta crashes on seemingly all 16:9 resolutions, and even some 4:3 ones

V A H K I T I 04-Jan-19 10:33 PM

FPS FTW 04-Jan-19 10:38 PM

I see

mb

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jan-19 08:57 PM

Has this been addressed? https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/162

Lewa's SHRN cutscene audio is not synced properly · Issue #162 ·...

This is an issue in the beta. The alpha featured a forty-second long cutscene of Lewa riding a Nui-Rama to Le-Kini when traveling from HIVE to SHRN. This cutscene was heavily trimmed down in length...

I feel like this has been around for quite a while

ShadowDraikana 08-Jan-19 02:35 PM

Who here wants to edit this then since it has to be done eventually

it's already fixed in Rebuilt since we just ported the alpha scene, but the legacy patch version will need to be shortened

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Jan-19 02:43 PM

Not sure if this is necessarily a bug, but the skyboxes in this opening from TVIL and VLLG aren't consistent.

(and that nui-rama scene thing is still important)

Fobo 10-Jan-19 07:21 PM

I guess this is already being adressed to some degree, but I always have trouble when backtracking in the beta, is this normal? Also it sometimes corrupts my save

ShadowDraikana 10-Jan-19 07:25 PM

hmm backtracking can be a bit crashy but save corruption hasn't happened for a while, or at least was confined to one area that we were aware of in the first level

Fobo 11-Jan-19 12:03 AM

it happened to me with pohatu's boss crash issue (edited)

Glitchipedia 26-Jan-19 02:20 PM

I'm having a problem in the alpha where the in-engine cutscenes don't trigger. The front end also has an irritatingly loud sound bug.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Jan-19 02:21 PM

also, you shouldn't need to use the front end in the alpha

but it needs to be addressed

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:21 PM

the front end sound is a result of the death sound being looped constantly since Onua is loaded in and falls out of world since apparently his position is oow

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:22 PM

Now hold on.

We should have fixed the cutscene issue in the alpha

Did we not do that at the same time as we fixed it in the beta?

Glitchipedia 26-Jan-19 02:23 PM

I'm not talking about the FMVs, I mean the in-engine bits like the introduction of Nobua.

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:23 PM

I know

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:24 PM

My guess would be you guys never fixed the alpha too since I wasn't around when it was first done. Or it somehow got reverted like some of the levels in the beta did recently.

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:25 PM

Well @Glitchipedia, if you wouldn't mind making an issue on the github about that, and we'll address it ASAP

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:25 PM

whoa the in-engine thing is already an issue

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:25 PM

A lot of alpha fixes got reverted, I wouldn't be surprised

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:26 PM

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:27 PM

I have the latest alpha patch installed

it's quite different from what we had before

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:27 PM

?

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:27 PM

for that matter the alpha kills the scenes if you just hit play game right

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:27 PM

It is worth noting that I DID actively revert SOME things.

Like the ported Beta animations from prior to the beta's acqusition and the change of direction for the alpha's continued support

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:28 PM

yea I get that

but you reverted some of the edited movelists too

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:28 PM

That was intentional as well.

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:28 PM

why?

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:29 PM

dude no that broke shit

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:29 PM

IIRC they were calling animations that simply didn't exist.

After removing the beta ones

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:29 PM

the edited movelists BEFORE we ported beta stuff needed to stay

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:29 PM

Whatever. I'm not going to debate this. It's just going to go nowhere

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:30 PM

Wow, way to go from 0 to 100

Who said this was a debate?

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:30 PM

I'm trying to stop it from going to 0 to 100

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:30 PM

I'm trying to understand the problem and you're apparently just giving up explaining it. xD

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:30 PM

Yea cause it's not worth explaining. I have explained this to you multiple times

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:31 PM

OK before we got the beta stuff ported to the movelists we made changes to them like fixing Gali's sidestep. If you reverted straight to the original alpha movelists then shit will be broken

Glitchipedia 26-Jan-19 02:31 PM

....sorry, folks, I didn't mean to start an incident.

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:31 PM

You didn't, don't worry

You're fine my friend

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:32 PM

also, I re enabled the back step animation for both tahu and kopaka. They have unique unported animations for them

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:32 PM

^

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:32 PM

Well then I was unaware of this and reverted it by mistake.

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:32 PM

I literally told you not to revert them, but you had some excuse for doing it anyways

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:33 PM

I don't remember you saying anything about that, but it was long enough ago that my memory is not strong on the subject so I'm not going to argue. I will personally handle the fix when we get around to it in our workflow.

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:34 PM

I'm not going to waste my time repeating fixes that just magically disappear though. And I don't think anyone else should either

ShadowDraikana 26-Jan-19 02:34 PM

@Glitchipedia Make an issue about the sound in front end; the cutscene problem is already one that's been posted.

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:34 PM

@Hexadecimal Mantis I literally just said I'll personally handle it so I don't see why that needed to be said, but you do you my dude.

Hexadecimal Mantis 26-Jan-19 02:35 PM

I was typing that before you sent the message

V A H K I T I 26-Jan-19 02:35 PM

Fair

Wolk 04-Feb-19 02:28 PM

Seems like something that would be picked up on fairly quickly, but I didn't see it on the list so... The Beta game crashes every time I go through the exit to the Gali level after defeating the Vatuka-Nui. I've tried this three times, same result; the game freezes and an 'Unhandled Exception' window appears.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Feb-19 02:31 PM

happens inconsistently

try again

Wolk 04-Feb-19 02:35 PM

Ok

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 05:47 PM

Think I found a bug involving the Vatuka.

Killing it and transitioning to Lev2 makes Gali's melee crash.

So far it has crashed at these two addresses: 00007261 00757d2e (and once it shut down)

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-19 06:15 PM

00007261 is a pretty low address.

I doubt anything is actually loaded at that address, the game loads at 00401000

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:16 PM

Yeah, it's the smallest I've seen aside from all zeroes

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-19 06:17 PM

Must be jumping somewhere it shouldn't somewhere.

A pointer in freed memory maybe.

00757d2e is in the data segment, around some GcHive related stuff, but it doesn't look properly aligned, so it may be a junk pointer also.

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:19 PM

Huh.

benji 15-Feb-19 06:20 PM

how easy is this to reproduce?

JrMasterModelBuilder 15-Feb-19 06:20 PM

Yeah, finding how it got there would be helpful. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:20 PM

Start Lev1, give yourself the glyph, warp to MUD0, kill the vatuka, exit to Lev2, go to the next map after the cutscene, and use a melee attack on one of the enemies (edited)

I first found it by just doing a normal lev1 run, but you can still get it by doing this shorter method

benji 15-Feb-19 06:23 PM

'shorter'

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:24 PM

Shorter than playing the whole level.

benji 15-Feb-19 06:25 PM

could you make a save file right before the crash that still reproduces?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:25 PM

I can try.

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:26 PM

>Assuming it can be replicated in a save

Eg: L1A7

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:26 PM

^

Was just about to say

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:26 PM

Which @ShadowDraikana wants you guys to look into before further progress can be made

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:26 PM

I'll still try

benji 15-Feb-19 06:27 PM

I asked if you could find a save that still reproduces

I have faith though

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:27 PM

probably not if this is a cleanup issue

which in this case is largely exe handled considering boss boi here is hardcoded

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:30 PM

Nope, works fine after the game has been loaded.

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:31 PM

as I suspected

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:32 PM

rip benji

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:32 PM

sorry

i tried

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:33 PM

I guess you can at least get a save in mud0 yeah?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:33 PM

i can

Attachment: player0.sav (555 B)

benji 15-Feb-19 06:40 PM

^ pls attach that to the GitHub issue

along with the reproduction instructions form there

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:41 PM

we need to get something done about these cleanup issues cuz they are piling up in a hurry. all hands need to be on deck and I literally cannot make progress until something is done about the sound buffer crash.

GetLeaf is really becoming a problem as well

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:45 PM

Make or update an issue with them and link it when you're done.

Make sure @Coders know it's top priority, and I'll update the milestone list accordingly.

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:45 PM

Well, it's not allowing me to attach the SAV file itself

benji 15-Feb-19 06:46 PM

hmm

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:46 PM

So I think I'll just copy the text from it into a normal txt

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:46 PM

Github only accepts zip files IIRC

It's dumb

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:46 PM

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:46 PM

Still dumb.

benji 15-Feb-19 06:46 PM

or you could post it within a code block in the issue text

it's xml right?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:47 PM

You'd know better than me.

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:47 PM

or post the link to the file here on discord

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:48 PM

Done

And added to the beta project

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:49 PM

te L1A7 thing is an existing problem but it's far more reaching than that

*existing issue

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:50 PM

it's the damn sound effect itself for falling platforms there. The switches in Pohatu's GLY3 use that same noise, and that's where the crash happened to me there

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:50 PM

Existing as in known, or existing as it already has an issue on Github?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:50 PM

HOL UP

the Switches aren't platform related

could we actually be looking at a soundtable error???

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:50 PM

No, but they have the sound effect

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:50 PM

^

that's my point

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:50 PM

Is the sound itself just corrupted?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:51 PM

doesn't explain the hive crash though

or the L1A3 crash

...but that area does use that sound too

so nm

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:51 PM

Try re-exporting the sound in Audacity. It could be that it's stable enough to play normally, but the engine flips out on some garbage data.

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:52 PM

will do

I'll post the sound since I don't feel like chucking a 50 MB blk around

I might check the soundtable too

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:57 PM

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:57 PM

Attachment: bridgecollapse.wav (77.56 KB)

replace your copy in the sounds blk and see if that changes anything

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 06:57 PM

(time to wait two years for this blk to reform)

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:59 PM

oh

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 06:59 PM

Are you compressing it?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 06:59 PM

use the old script

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:00 PM

i am not compressing it

afaik

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:00 PM

you're using the old tool right

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:00 PM

Compression is on by default in the current versions.

You can turn it off just by running it via command line with the -d argument

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:00 PM

Well I have two versions. One has a _compressor at the end.

And that's not the one I'm using

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:01 PM

blks with the old one recompile instantly for me

file size on that script is 13 kb right

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:01 PM

18

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:01 PM

you're using the compressor alright

Attachment: blkfile.py (12.41 KB)

try that one

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:02 PM

well fuck

~~you sent me the wrong one back in october~~ (edited)

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:02 PM

huh

benji 15-Feb-19 07:02 PM

... so did that sound file fix it?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:03 PM

waiting on him to test it

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:04 PM

well

it did something

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:05 PM

please no crash

1

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:05 PM

unhandled exception 80000003 at address: 746614f2

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:05 PM

wut

try L1A7?

benji 15-Feb-19 07:06 PM

huh, that's a breakpoint exception

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:06 PM

that

that was l1a7

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:06 PM

Nate, did you make sure the wav file was in the same format?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:06 PM

wh

yes

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:06 PM

Same bitrate?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:06 PM

same bitrate, same file size

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:06 PM

l1a7 crashed there on death post-invasion

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:07 PM

I just loaded it into Audacity, hit export, saved and that's what I posted

the fact that it did something is more than a coincidence

sounds like we're on the right track with this

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:08 PM

try exporting it as mp3 and changing the code that looks for the sound?

Maybe the wav file is too big for the sound buffers in this context? (edited)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:09 PM

I'll note it did not crash if I warped to L1A7 first, went back and saved the village, then warped back and killed myself

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:09 PM

try the thing with Pohatu's level next

stupid attempt no. 1 at pointing a mp3

I don't think it works this way but we'll find out in about 30 seconds

holy fuck

it accepted it

but the sound didn't actually play so back to the drawing board on the export

@The Cap'm (Reese) Any luck?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:17 PM

just a minute

I don't seem to be able to reproduce it

so

Might be fixed

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:18 PM

...

Liam are you able to test this on your end

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:18 PM

Sure

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:19 PM

something else we should try is playing through the level to see if the L1A3 thing comes back

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:19 PM

I mean was the stream not enough for you there?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:19 PM

I'm saying check now with the exported sound

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:19 PM

welp

killing the hive in L1A7 still crashed

at 3dbuffers

though...hold on a sec

I think I noticed something

Well for one the energy pickups no longer crash when you pick them up

(though the tokens do)

so that's a thing

(picking up the token also crashed at the 80000003 thing)

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:24 PM

which benji said was a breakpoint crash

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:24 PM

god as soon as we fix one thing about this map another pops up behind it

this is a goddamn clusterfuck of a map

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:26 PM

well we know there's something fishy going on with the sound

since exporting it made the game react differently

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:27 PM

back in the alpha days i paid this area next to no mind

why

why did this happen

benji 15-Feb-19 07:27 PM

I'd love to take a look at the crashes when I get some time in a few days

1

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:27 PM

please do

because this is blocking a lot of immediate progess

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:28 PM

it's the final unavoidable crash in Onua's level

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:29 PM

welp @V A H K I T I I'm going to have to bail for tonight due to battery levels but please keep poking at this with Reese. we're on to something finally.

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:29 PM

(unavoidable provided you don't load, that is)

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:29 PM

I mean you never sent me what you wanted me to test, but okay.

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:30 PM

?

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:30 PM

Nate

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 07:30 PM

He sent the wav in chat

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:30 PM

He wanted me to test the MP3 I assumed

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:30 PM

uh no

1

I haven't been able to get that fully working yet but it has issues already

see what the wav does for now

also if you want to poke at the mp3, the lego volatileplatform class contains where the sound is called for L1A7/L1A8. look for this:

LineNumber 45485, 4 LineNumberAlt1 71, 118 CreateObjectString "tablecopysound" Dup PushConstanti16 1038 Pull 2 GetMemberFunctionString "tablecopysound" JumpAbsolute 2 Pop

see if you can get the bitrate right on the mp3 and in turn replace the value being pushed here with the path to the mp3.

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:35 PM

Replace.. 1038 with a file path? O_o

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:36 PM

PushConstantStringString "Root/Data/sounds/filenamehere"

replace the whole line

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:36 PM

Do you know for sure that's how this even works?

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:36 PM

not really

but it didn't crash or shutdown so I assume so

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:37 PM

That doesn't mean anything.

ShadowDraikana 15-Feb-19 07:39 PM

ehh nm yeah it references stringtable specific functions

I don't think you can have an mp3

for these types of sounds

either way keep poking at this

the fact that exporting the sound made it behave differently seems more than a coincidence

i'm out for tonight; keep me posted

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 07:43 PM

ye

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:22 PM

Any new finds Reese?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:23 PM

I just finished eating dinner

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:23 PM

Bug free meal?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:23 PM

i

i hope

Did you try it with the wav yet? (edited)

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:25 PM

Not yet. I trust that your testing is sufficient for that since we tend to have similar results.

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:26 PM

~~You never know.~~

Anyways, I'll try to replicate the Pohatu one again by doing a full run.

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:26 PM

Aight

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:33 PM

well

i entered RKFL and got stuck inbetween the bridge and the door

and got pushed into the wall

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:34 PM

Nani

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:34 PM

had to debug cam my way out

Yeah, this isn't fun to fall into

Can replicate the clip and also got stuck in a different part of the door crevace

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:48 PM

Reproduced the Pohatu crash.

still deallocate3dbuffers

0055ff9c in this instance

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:50 PM

FUcc

I wonder what would happen if we just called a different soundtable entry.

Just to rule out that specific file.

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:51 PM

Might be worth it

~~call the urination sound~~

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:52 PM

Boi

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:53 PM

i do recall that removing the call for this noise period fixed L1A7

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:53 PM

Find me what entry number that is in the soundtable and I'll do it

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:53 PM

oh i uh

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 08:53 PM

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 08:53 PM

have no clue how to do that

Point is, either this sound or how this sound is called is breaking these areas

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 09:04 PM

Attachment: Base.osi (754.04 KB)

Try this, main patch.

Both sound entries for volatile platform now call an Onua conversation sound

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 09:07 PM

the slight chain rattle produced no crash in L1A7

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 09:08 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 09:08 PM

I'll do it a couple more times to make 100% sure

Hmm. The slight chain rattle itself didn't crash, but then it died when I died

gonna keep at this

Hmm. Tokens and dying still crash.

But the platforms themselves no longer do

V A H K I T I 15-Feb-19 09:17 PM

Nani

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 09:17 PM

stepping on the branch crashes as well

I'll keep going, but I'm getting the feeling this fixed exactly one thing

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-19 09:49 PM

Yeah, this thing's still fucked in every other way

I'm starting to think we may just need to gut and redo this area in order to make sure everything works properly

If we don't get a solid lead on this soon

Deleted User 15-Feb-19 10:07 PM

I can't download the new updates. All links to the download page say its been black listed.

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Feb-19 07:07 PM

Hey, new bug.

If you pause while using the Vahi, your animations do not pause and you'll idle.

Hisa 18-Feb-19 08:31 PM

I'll retype an older question but how can I do a clean disinstallation of the game? I messed up with the settings in a terrible way and I can't play the game anymore, please help ;w;

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Mar-19 12:49 PM

I think Ta-Koro might need some invisible walls...

Attachment: 2019-03-02_11-48-57.mp4 (5.18 MB)

UTTER_BODGE 02-Mar-19 03:21 PM

invisible walls in ta-koro are kinda bad out of the box

there's just one big plane slapped above it (in the original collision) which you can bonk your head/the camera on in the place with the pickup (grappling hook I think?)

(or some other collectible)

I was working on revamping it but never got around to finishing it

no idea what the current state is, if anybody else has altered it

V A H K I T I 02-Mar-19 03:23 PM

I don't think we made any changes to the BCL, but feel free to pull the latest from Dropbox and have at it

UTTER_BODGE 02-Mar-19 03:23 PM

may or may not have enough time today

we'll see

HangryDave 05-Mar-19 06:55 PM

No matter what I do, it won't go windowed to the resolution I specified.

Also, every time I launch the beta, it says that the same patch is available and asks if I want to download it.

ahaha... 05-Mar-19 09:38 PM

I'm having that too

The Shadow Emperor 05-Mar-19 09:49 PM

every time I launch the beta it crashes. I've reinstalled the game four times. I've given up on ever playing it again (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Mar-19 10:16 PM

@The Shadow Emperor at what address?

The Shadow Emperor 05-Mar-19 10:29 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) unhandled exception c0000005 at address 0056476c. Right after installing the game & patches it does start up, albeit two instances of it, and at the wrong screen size. After closing it and trying to relaunch I always get a white screen and that error message.

I've repeated this process several times, trying things a little differently each time, but each time I get the same result.

ScrapMetaru 06-Mar-19 01:52 PM

Well that's new. this happened just from entering the door between Onua's collapsing cliff and the button-activated slide-out cliffs

ShadowDraikana 06-Mar-19 02:38 PM

@V A H K I T I See this is why the sound buffer issues needs to be fixed.

@The Shadow Emperor Did anyone try running that address for you yet

The Shadow Emperor 06-Mar-19 02:39 PM

no

ShadowDraikana 06-Mar-19 02:41 PM

I'll run that now

fffffun

one of those nonsense addresses

have you tried running the game without the launcher

The Shadow Emperor 06-Mar-19 03:24 PM

yeah and that didn't work either, I can see if the error message is different though

ShadowDraikana 06-Mar-19 03:35 PM

please do

ShadowDraikana 06-Mar-19 03:53 PM

Any luck?

One thing I can think of is the FMVs. If anything in the Cinematics folder is larger than a size of 0, you might need dummied out versions. I'd like to at least rule those out.

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Mar-19 02:47 PM

Le-Koro's collision is top-notch

Attachment: 2019-03-09_13-31-21.mp4 (2.72 MB)

Attachment: 2019-03-09_13-45-32.mp4 (3.85 MB)

UTTER_BODGE 09-Mar-19 02:48 PM

those are underlying issues with ledge grabs and collision detection

not the geometry itself

can happen in many, many areas

V A H K I T I 09-Mar-19 02:48 PM

The worst instance by far is in Lev4/VISN, and is the reason we'll likely be removing the moving blocks on the top path.

If you happen to ledge grab one, there's no code for dislodging the player on impact with another object, so you'll actually be pulled back through the wall with the block.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 09-Mar-19 03:06 PM

same thing that happens in VISN also happens in BOSS5, but with the tornado attack thing

ShadowDraikana 09-Mar-19 03:06 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Mar-19 04:56 PM

Getting the startup crash (005c7e52) a lot more recently.

The Shadow Emperor 12-Mar-19 10:20 PM

@ShadowDraikana whoops, sorry for not getting back to you. when I try to start the game without the launcher I get an application error. It says "the application was unable to start correctly (0xc0000142)"

as for the cinematics folder, there's tons of stuff in there

ShadowDraikana 13-Mar-19 01:44 PM

Odd. Did it give an address on that crash or just that

The Shadow Emperor 13-Mar-19 01:47 PM

just that

ShadowDraikana 13-Mar-19 01:48 PM

hmmm is dgvoodoo present in your bionicle folder

that's one thing I know for a fact broke the game on startup or at least used to do it

The Shadow Emperor 13-Mar-19 01:50 PM

I'll check later

ShadowDraikana 13-Mar-19 01:51 PM

aight thanks

my first reaction when I see startup issue like this is 1. dgvoodoo and 2. fmvs

The Shadow Emperor 13-Mar-19 05:35 PM

in the game folder itself there's dgvoodoo.conf

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 15-Mar-19 05:12 PM

I got some fucked up cinematics....

ShadowDraikana 15-Mar-19 05:13 PM

known

~~oh hey they actually played for you too~~

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 15-Mar-19 05:13 PM

And no background on the menu...

Yes they played, but fucked up (edited)

And this is all I see when starting a new game...

I have walking sound though...

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Mar-19 05:17 PM

Well, something went wrong when patching in that case

Patches fix the all black issue

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 15-Mar-19 05:17 PM

Figured...

try again?

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 16-Mar-19 07:51 AM

I like how my game acts like it crashed when I press the quit button

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-19 08:01 AM

The doorway to the fikou nui crashes my game

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Mar-19 08:01 AM

try to reload

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 23-Mar-19 08:01 AM

I know, I respawn at the other side of the doorway

UTTER_BODGE 23-Mar-19 02:40 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470688952352776/559083542533898241/unknown.png

alpha currently crashes for me after selecting tahu's level

it's just the alpha with the latest patch applied, straight from the launcher, nothing done on my end

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 02:41 PM

I'll run the address see if that gives a clue

UTTER_BODGE 23-Mar-19 02:41 PM

selecting another level, then going to tahu's level via room/level warping in the debug menu works fine

for example, started in onua's level and warped to tahu's mtup

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 02:43 PM

Sounds to me like the cutscene is missing

UTTER_BODGE 23-Mar-19 02:43 PM

other following areas I've tried also work fine when warping that way

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 02:43 PM

Do me a favour

Go into the cinematics/Level 6 folder

Tell me if all the files for Cin1 are present

UTTER_BODGE 23-Mar-19 02:44 PM

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 02:44 PM

Huh

Well there goes that theory.

Though it could be an OSI issue with the scene.

Cause it seems like it works fine if it doesn't play.

Though it could just as easily be a problem with Tahu.

If you wanna rule that out, go to Level 7 and warp to Tahu's area.

If he loads in there, then that likely rules him out as an issue for level 6

UTTER_BODGE 23-Mar-19 02:46 PM

that works fine

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 02:46 PM

Okay so it's probably not Tahu himself.

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 02:46 PM

crash address was complete nonsense so nothing useful there

UTTER_BODGE 23-Mar-19 02:47 PM

I gotta start getting ready for work soonish btw

anyway - as mentioned earlier this is nothing but the alpha installed + patched from the launcher

on a whim I tried renaming/removing the dgvoodoo DLLs

still crashes without them so it's not another one of those weird scenarios

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 02:55 PM

so it's something in the patch assets then

UTTER_BODGE 23-Mar-19 02:57 PM

would be nice if somebody could also try it on the same vanilla + patch setup and see if they can replicate it

or if it's another weird machine/OS/something else specific crash

regardless I'd say not being able to play tahu's level normally is a fairly glaring problem

patches are just self-extracting zips or something right?

any chance the latest alpha patch doesn't include something previous patches did?

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:05 PM

I'm trying to check this now; give me a few minutes on that one

Very possible the patch itself is screwed up for a fresh install but works fine on previously patched copies

alright, finally getting the patch assets copied over

moment of truth

cool shit

the version of DGVoodoo within the pathc is causing it to crash on startup

I told you Liam that this version is a problem

Sven got it for fuck's sake

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:15 PM

And I told YOU that it's the only way to make the launcher work as intended.

The logic doesn't work on binary files, and neither I nor Benji have the time to put in to add support right now.

UTTER_BODGE 23-Mar-19 03:16 PM

would be nice to see a problem here approached in any way other than "snarky blame-gamey asshattery" some day

but I still gotta get prepped for work

so

glhf I guess

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:18 PM

Hey he started it

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:29 PM

Because it's a legit problem? And one that still hasn't been addressed even after multiple reports of it being a problem?

Well what do you know

I got Jamesster's crash

Litestone, we have a problem.

from what I can tell it's tied to the cutscene

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:34 PM

My point is I know it's an issue, but it's one we can't really do anything about without DGVoodoo independence, which we have a checklist for right now.

We either gut more than half of the launcher's features, or work towards independence.

Obviously the latter is the more viable choice.

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:35 PM

What about changing versions in the meantime?

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:35 PM

Even if it takes a bit longer to produce a result.

benji 23-Mar-19 03:36 PM

Is dgvoodoo open source?

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:36 PM

I mean what about this particular version makes it so special? Did you guys set the Launcher up to interact with this version specifically?

Please enlighten me

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:36 PM

This version uses plaint text configs

Previous ones use binary files

As I just said

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:37 PM

ok how about newer versions

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:37 PM

This IS the newest version

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:37 PM

wot

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:37 PM

Or it was as of when we implemented it

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:37 PM

My point is there are new versions

and one of them completely fixed this shit for both me and Reese

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:38 PM

Well by all means test it, but I also need @benji to finish the last feature in the launcher's code before we can release it.

IIRC it was something simple, but the code has gotten so complicated that I can't make heads or tails of it

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:39 PM

Launcher uses version 2.55. I use 2.55.4

V A H K I T I 23-Mar-19 03:39 PM

At this point it's basically his code with my GUI

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 03:40 PM

I have not tested 2.55.4.1 yet but I'll see what that does

in the meantime I'm checking to see if an updated OSI fixes the issue with Tahu's alpha level

looks more like a cinema issue so I may try disabling it to see if that's the main issue or something else

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 04:01 PM

@V A H K I T I Yep. Cut the cinema call from the alpha OSI and Tahu's level loads in now

ShadowDraikana 23-Mar-19 05:43 PM

so that localizes the problem to the cinema; I'll see if I can fix it over the weekend

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-19 11:54 AM

Guys I managed to jump outside of the the map in galis first level and jumping off doesn't kill you, maybe put an invisible wall there

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Mar-19 12:29 PM

yeah (edited)

that's known

I've been talking about it for very long

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-19 12:30 PM

Aight

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-19 12:46 PM

Is this even possible? I keep fallimg dowm whenever I reach the platform

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Mar-19 12:47 PM

you have to cancel the grapple at the right moment

also, quick side note: with you pointing that camera at the monitor, it looks like deepbrick footage

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-19 12:48 PM

no idea to l who that is

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Mar-19 12:48 PM

the guy who originally had the beta

made videos about it by pointing his camera at a really old monitor

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-19 12:48 PM

Ah

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Mar-19 12:49 PM

for instance this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI3XZ-8YpK0

MarkOfMoD

BIONICLE LOMN Onua Scene 01

The first playable scene from the unreleased "BIONICLE: Legend of Mata Nui" PC CDROM game.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-19 12:50 PM

Oof

Wait, I struggled so hard for nokamas mask?

Waste of time

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Mar-19 12:51 PM

you need it for the token door

in SHRN2

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Mar-19 12:54 PM

Oof

ShadowDraikana 24-Mar-19 03:17 PM

@V A H K I T I We have a serious problem on our hands. I can't fix the Tahu crash in the alpha. I replaced the character folder, the level itself, the OSI, the exe, and the cinematic and it STILL didn't fix the crash. ProcMon says it's bombing on Lewa's cinematic mask.x, and the crash address is ScDrawableModel::LoadX. The ProcMon log showed it as REPARSE just before the crash. No idea why; it already loaded the model previously.

V A H K I T I 24-Mar-19 03:18 PM

Oh that's easy

ShadowDraikana 24-Mar-19 03:18 PM

Don't have long but I wanted to inform you of this while I had some time

V A H K I T I 24-Mar-19 03:18 PM

Just replace the model with the same model from the beta

ShadowDraikana 24-Mar-19 03:18 PM

I did

V A H K I T I 24-Mar-19 03:18 PM

Those models in the alpha have previously been corrputed somehow

...

ShadowDraikana 24-Mar-19 03:19 PM

I also replaced it with the mask.x from my working alpha copy

the file is identical

so what the actual fuck is going on

why does it work on my one alpha copy but dies on the patch from a fresh install

UTTER_BODGE 25-Mar-19 01:29 AM

use a file/folder comparing program like, say, beyond compare 4 to compare the working alpha copy and fresh + patched install

see exactly which files differ and narrow it down from there

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-Mar-19 07:33 PM

Startup crash at 005c7e52 continues rearing its ugly head. Has at the moment happened ten times in a row, that number will probably climb before the game decides to launch

G-Bond 28-Mar-19 04:34 AM

Uhh.... Seems like I can't play the game at all. (edited)

I tried to start up the game and it gives me this.

Both Alpha and Beta.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Mar-19 05:43 AM

Try a different resolution

Are you trying to play on 16x9?

G-Bond 28-Mar-19 05:44 AM

No

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Mar-19 05:44 AM

Try that one

G-Bond 28-Mar-19 05:44 AM

Nope

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Mar-19 05:45 AM

Hmm

G-Bond 28-Mar-19 05:45 AM

Oh ok then game

Piece of shit.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Mar-19 05:45 AM

Then I have no idea

G-Bond 28-Mar-19 05:46 AM

So apparently I have to have it in this res. any other one is fucked. (edited)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Mar-19 05:46 AM

Really?

G-Bond 28-Mar-19 05:46 AM

Yes

I think it's because of my monitor.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Mar-19 05:48 AM

Idk

ShadowDraikana 29-Mar-19 04:35 PM

Ok so I'm going to @Coders because I confirmed that killing the Vatuka-Nui then transitioning to Gali's level and performing a melee attack will cause a random crash. By random I mean the address has changed every time I've reproduced it. So I can corroborate @The Cap'm (Reese) on this one finally

V A H K I T I 29-Mar-19 06:41 PM

nani

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Mar-19 06:45 PM

yeah that one's a fuckhead

Ethanwoopdedoo, Chaotic Bisexual 11-Apr-19 01:57 PM

Not sure whether this qualifies as a bug for the game, but I ran another scan after my antivirus picked the renderer up and sure enough this is a LOMN-related issue.

Ethanwoopdedoo, Chaotic Bisexual 11-Apr-19 02:12 PM

@Team Litestone any advice on this?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Apr-19 02:29 PM

Somehow whitelist it

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-Apr-19 02:42 PM

Yea DGVoodoo isn't malware unless you downloaded it from anywhere but the DGVoodoo website

Ethanwoopdedoo, Chaotic Bisexual 11-Apr-19 02:48 PM

I think I got it from y'all, but I can't really remember

Carlwheezer1011 18-Apr-19 09:44 PM

so the lego logo intro is way to fast for me

is there a way to fix that

Ethanwoopdedoo, Chaotic Bisexual 18-Apr-19 10:02 PM

Ooh, ditto, I've noticed the FMV plays at, like, double speed

👑🐱Courage🐱👑 26-Apr-19 10:14 PM

oh fuck help

how do i fix this

@Coders

benji 26-Apr-19 10:21 PM

well first, you give an extremely detailed breakdown of what you did to cause the crash, with huge mega extra bonus points if you can reproduce it with those instructions. Then, you avoid whatever causes the crash until someone has a look at the issue.

👑🐱Courage🐱👑 26-Apr-19 10:22 PM

alright, 1. Start Game (beta version), 1920x1080 resolution 2. Close game 3. restart game (in fullscreen this time) 4. die, (edited)

V A H K I T I 26-Apr-19 10:23 PM

You're trying to run the game widescreen, yes?

👑🐱Courage🐱👑 26-Apr-19 10:23 PM

ye

V A H K I T I 26-Apr-19 10:23 PM

👑🐱Courage🐱👑 26-Apr-19 10:23 PM

ah

i was going for 16:9

ohh ok ill change the compatibility

oh shid

still crashing

V A H K I T I 26-Apr-19 10:32 PM

FMVs do not currently work unless compatibility mode is set to XP 𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘮𝘰𝘥𝘦

👑🐱Courage🐱👑 26-Apr-19 10:32 PM

thank u

bionicle dad

V A H K I T I 26-Apr-19 10:33 PM

UltimateAura 27-Apr-19 11:39 AM

So you need to set both the compatibility and not play in fullscreen?

Deleted User 04-May-19 02:48 PM

The LEGO opening of the game crashes for me. I have an ultrawide monitor, and I'm playing with the 16:9 mode, as well as Windows XP compatibility enabled.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-May-19 02:52 PM

Does it freeze after 3 seconds, or does it just crash entirely?

And is it alpha or beta?

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 04-May-19 02:58 PM

Ah fuck, I should redownload LoMN

ShadowDraikana 04-May-19 03:15 PM

it's the resolution likely. try going with a 4:3 resolution

Deleted User 04-May-19 07:14 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) @𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 @ShadowDraikana It just shows a black screen and infinitely loops the audio until I close out of the game. Also, the game worked with 1600x1200 (4:3 resolution), but it stretched to fill my whole screen.

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 08-May-19 04:03 PM

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 08-May-19 04:06 PM

Get the guy in here

ShadowDraikana 08-May-19 04:27 PM

we really need to put something out to not run the game in 16:9 with the FMVs present

because this comes up regularly

V A H K I T I 08-May-19 04:30 PM

We do

It's in the patch notes.

But apparently people don't know what a footnote is, or how to read one.

I guess it was my mistake for not putting it in giant flashing text at the start of the file. Cause that's apparently all people bother to read.

Though I guess to be fair, not everyone will even READ the patch notes.

benji 08-May-19 04:46 PM

I went through the patch notes looking for this known issue and I still almost couldn't find it

It's misleading that it's a known issue for an older version

also the wording is ambiguous

it could read FMVs do not currently work unless (compatibility mode is set to XP, (any Service Pack ver.)) or (in widescreen mode), which implies that widescreen fixes the issue but now I think you meant FMVs do not currently work (unless compatibility mode is set to XP, (any Service Pack ver.)) or (in widescreen mode)

V A H K I T I 08-May-19 04:52 PM

Fair. Well at this point we may as well just look into the issue when there's time. It is a rather bothersome one.

Tass 09-May-19 10:55 AM

Has anyone encountered this before? Having issues launching it, I've got the compatibility set, disabled the intro, and I've downloaded the latest patch. Running in 640x480, Windows 10.

Tass 10-May-19 07:48 PM

The actual specific issue is that the game launches, goes black, then the entire screen goes white.

No sound at all

KrazyK 14-May-19 10:43 PM

Not sure if this classifies as a bug, but in Onua’s level: if you return to the Fikou Nui area after defeating it, you’re stuck. You need to defeat it so the web disappears and the gate unlocks. But you can’t defeat it because you can’t get through the web or shoot the spider through it. In case you didn’t know already.

ShadowDraikana 15-May-19 02:17 PM

yeah this is an issue

Hosomi-San (Spidey) 19-May-19 09:31 AM

I can't enter the damn game the onua claw is stuck in the top of the menu Is their anyway to fix this? If your wondering it's the beta

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-19 09:54 AM

you should get out of full screen mode

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-May-19 10:42 AM

I had this issue for a while. It ended up being the window size that was messing it up.

Hosomi-San (Spidey) 19-May-19 02:24 PM

First in windowed it did that second in full the cursor didnt show up Third I will try that

Hosomi-San (Spidey) 19-May-19 02:57 PM

Also I think I found an actual bug The resolution 1024x576 (16:9) during the opening part with all the logos and mata nui its completely bugged out and pixelated

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 19-May-19 03:00 PM

yes

that is known

the prerenders are really wonky with 16:9

Hosomi-San (Spidey) 19-May-19 03:01 PM

Ah ok got it

ulvenAspiration 26-May-19 11:16 AM

so

i have a billion problems getting the legend of mata nui to work

accidentally posted them all in #beaverhouse-gaming so it'd just be easier to look there than to retype it all here

(waits)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-May-19 11:21 AM

okay, so first to edit the bionicle INI you can copy it to somewhere else then copy it back

or you can run notepad as administrator

also, there is a link for manual patching

which you can use if the launcher doesn't work for you

ulvenAspiration 26-May-19 11:24 AM

there is?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-May-19 11:24 AM

yeah

should be in #lomn-info

it should be a self extracting zip file. extract it to where you installed the game from the disk image

ulvenAspiration 26-May-19 11:25 AM

still getting black screen after editing the file

which link is it?

which do i click

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-May-19 11:26 AM

>still getting black screen after editing the file expected for a vanilla install

>which do i click if it's the beta, PatchB.exe

ulvenAspiration 26-May-19 11:28 AM

so i extract it into the lego bionicle thing

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-May-19 11:28 AM

yeah

it should ask to overwrite files

if so, click Yes to All

if it doesn't, you probably didn't do it right

ulvenAspiration 26-May-19 11:30 AM

kk

ulvenAspiration 26-May-19 12:51 PM

game crashes in onua's stage when using the huna at that big temple

ulvenAspiration 29-May-19 11:55 AM

also

anyway so i also have the launcher installed but like

i click it

and it shows up in the task manager for half a second

then it closes itself

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 07:33 AM

wtf

my save broke

i was at gali

and then it put me all the way back at the start of the game with onua

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 07:33 AM

what does it do?

oh

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 07:34 AM

with some ludicrous percent complete

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 07:34 AM

yeah

do you still have the save?

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 07:34 AM

i think so

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 07:34 AM

Can you send it here?

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 07:35 AM

how do i do that

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 07:38 AM

In the game's folder, there's a Data folder

in there, there's the playerX.sav save files (X is a number from 1 to 4) (edited)

I can take a look at it and maybe try to save it

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 07:41 AM

Attachment: player2.sav (268 B)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 07:41 AM

yeah, that's a save corruption

somehow, it put you in the menu

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 07:41 AM

if i recall i was at gali's kini

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 07:42 AM

I think this should work

Attachment: player2_1.sav (268 B)

just remove the underscore and the 1

V A H K I T I 31-May-19 07:43 AM

These issues should be resolved in 1.3 by the way. If they aren't, the save file format will be simple XML so you can easier fix it yourself.

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 07:45 AM

thanks!

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 12:11 PM

agh fuck

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 12:11 PM

what?

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 12:11 PM

file corrupted again fortunately i have that backup save so it should be fine

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 12:12 PM

If you need saves, there's one for each level start here https://www.speedrun.com/bionicle_tlomn/resources

speedrun.com

Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui - Resources

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 12:41 PM

was i supposed to get the komau or the kakama first?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-May-19 12:41 PM

the komau

V A H K I T I 31-May-19 12:48 PM

~~Please tell me there's no MASSIVE sequence break to the Kakama~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-19 12:48 PM

There shouldn't even be a way into PTOS until you clear BLR2

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 01:13 PM

no there's no sequence break

you gotta do the kane-ra segment

also the game crashed when i tried to use pohatu's grappling hook on one of those target things

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 02:42 PM

game crashed fighting the duckbill stone golem boy

aka one of 2 elemental creatures that are actually named?

crashed again when i tried to kick a koli ball

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-19 02:45 PM

Rock elemental fix is geared for the next patch.

ulvenAspiration 31-May-19 02:48 PM

ok so

what then like

when the patch comes out what do i do

do i have to start over or redownload the game or what

cause the launcher that auto-updates never works

Teylgate 04-Jun-19 03:55 PM

Keep getting this error :/

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 09:57 PM

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 09:59 PM

Oh great, I forgot that doesn't override the previous one.

Well don't worry about it for now

I'll handle it

benji 04-Jun-19 10:00 PM

nice to see adding that dialog paying off

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 10:24 PM

Should be fixed now @Eljay Johnsen

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:34 PM

Aye! Seems to be in tip top shape.

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 10:34 PM

Yeet

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:34 PM

Tried to run through Onua's level, got to the tunnel at the end of the falling walkway outside and it exception errored, but I was expecting that.

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 10:35 PM

I wasn't aware of any crashes there. o-O

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:35 PM

Oh yeah, it's the first walkway outside, after you pick up the Lightning Bug.

At the tunnel at the end to go back inside, it crashes.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:35 PM

L1A3

The sound buffers crash.

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 10:35 PM

It happens there too, does it?

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:36 PM

I'm guessing.

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 10:36 PM

What was the address? @Eljay Johnsen

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:36 PM

Only exit I know around there that has crashed

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:37 PM

Lemme double check.

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:48 PM

Real fast.

Before I get there.

Clarify "address" for me. I'm not sure what to look for otherwise.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:49 PM

When the game crashes, it says unhandled exception c000000005 at address: (crash address)

(typically)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Jun-19 10:49 PM

the second value here

for instance

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:50 PM

Okay, this is bizarre.

So the game crashes, I boot it back up, load auto-save.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:51 PM

Places you in the next map?

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:51 PM

And it puts me on the other side of the door I entered when it crash- yeah.

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 10:51 PM

That's normal for the soundbuffers crash. (edited)

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:51 PM

Gotcha. In that case, lemme just load up the map from the get-go and reenact it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:51 PM

It loads enough of the next area to save to file

Quick warning. The sound buffers crash usually only occurs after playing through normally, not just warping back to the map it occurred in

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:52 PM

Soon as I remember the button. Is it `?

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:52 PM

Button for debug menu is Delete if that's what you're asking.

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 10:52 PM

That won't work here though

You'd have to replay the level

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:53 PM

^ as I said

(but you put it better)

V A H K I T I 04-Jun-19 10:53 PM

I think we can safely assume what it is by now though.

Only the soundbuffers crash usually acts like this.

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:53 PM

Still want me to grab the address? Wouldn't take me too long.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:53 PM

If you want to, sure.

No harm in making 100% sure, I suppose.

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:56 PM

Welp, hit new game and it puts me right back where I was.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:56 PM

...pardon

It didn't put you on the beach?

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 10:56 PM

Nope. Where it asks if I wanted to access my save file, or one of three new starts, I hit the start right below it.

And I'm back on the other side of the door.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:57 PM

O_o

This, I have never seen before. Screwing up a new game...?

benji 04-Jun-19 10:58 PM

could it be a BetterSaver bug?

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 10:58 PM

Might be. I'll grab the patch myself and check, I guess

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 11:01 PM

Game crashed again (no error message, unrelated it seems) and I rebooted it and hit the third save option and now I'm on the beach.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 11:02 PM

No error, huh? Straight up closed the window?

Eljay Johnsen 04-Jun-19 11:09 PM

Oddly enough, I got back to the part, and no error and no crash.

So I've got nothing.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 11:09 PM

.-.

This game sometimes, man...

It makes my brain hurt.

I'll still check it on my end, but that's bizarre.

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-19 11:23 PM

Okay, yep, the sound buffers crash occurs when leaving L1A3

New game worked fine, however. Perhaps your instance was a mistake?

Hard to tell, I guess

ulvenAspiration 04-Jun-19 11:58 PM

launcher doesn't work

still

i double click the icon

it opens in the task manager

then closes after half a second

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 12:01 AM

Do you know how to check the event log on your PC?

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 12:01 AM

?

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 12:02 AM

~~I'll take that as a no~~

https://www.howtogeek.com/123646/htg-explains-what-the-windows-event-viewer-is-and-how-you-can-use-it/

The Windows Event Viewer shows a log of application and system messages, including errors, information messages, and warnings. It’s a useful tool for troubleshooting all kinds of different Windows problems.

I can get a better idea of what's wrong if you show me the log here

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 12:11 AM

a'ight. i'm about to go to bed now so i'll show tomorrow

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 12:11 AM

Okay. Keep me posted.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-19 06:50 AM

Bois, theres a save corruption bug relating to Kopakas level and the SHRN portal

So, apparently going in the SHRN4->TURA4->VLLG4->TURA4->SHRN4 route corrupts the save (edited)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520270023550566412/585783304003911693/player1.sav

save is here

for some reason it saves frontend (edited)

or something like that

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 08:54 AM

game crashed when transitioning from the collapsing cliff area

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 09:05 AM

yeah it's crashing still when you fall to your death on onua's stage

doesn't even show the death particles

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 09:59 AM

@The Cap'm (Reese), Can you confirm the above save corruption, and/or the invisibility bug posted in Dev?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:01 AM

Can in a minute.

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:01 AM

Thank

Also @ulvenAspiration, what was the crash address for those? Not much we can do about them otherwise.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:03 AM

Are the bugs you mentioned in main or rebuilt

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-19 10:03 AM

both main

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:03 AM

k

Kopaka and Lewa are fine in K meets L, so no clue on that one.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-19 10:07 AM

then it could be a patching thing

or a problem with the machine of the guy who reported it to me

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:09 AM

Went from SHRN to TURA to VLLG to TURA to SHRN again, quit, reopened the game, loaded, was still in SHRN. (in lev4)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-19 10:10 AM

could be a machine specific problem

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:10 AM

At first glance, I see nothing wrong with the save

Remember, they're XML now, so they're easy enough to read with our human eyes.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-19 10:11 AM

at the level, it’s 0, loads frnt with onua

and 60 hp/energy

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:11 AM

So it is

Hmm

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-19 10:11 AM

despite the rest showing a Kopaka level playthrough

I was able to fix it and send it to them

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:12 AM

That's how they look when they corrupt. Had to manually edit a Gali save that corrupted about a month ago

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:12 AM

Well on the bright side, for the time being, you can do that and send it back to the guy, Ondrik

Easy enough to do now.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jun-19 10:12 AM

as I said, I did that

he was able to beat the game

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 10:13 AM

Crash adress for what

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:13 AM

Ah, nicely done

@ulvenAspiration For... the crashes you're getting?

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 10:13 AM

Where do i find those?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:14 AM

When the game crashes, a little window pops up.

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 10:14 AM

Oh those yeah hold on

I forgot what the windows said

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 12:13 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 12:14 PM

Sound buffers crash.

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 12:21 PM

this when transitioning from the room past the earthquake glyph room back to the kini

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 07:34 PM

I tried looking on Github to see if this was listed, and I figure I just missed it, but felt I oughta post it here regardless.

It's whenever I shoot underwater as Gali.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 07:35 PM

Particle overload crash.

Can tell just by lookin' at the screen

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 07:35 PM

That makes a lot of sense.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 07:36 PM

Staying in the bubbles for too long (or dying underwater) generates too many particles for the game to handle

and it dies

This is also why dying out-of-world causes a crash.

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 07:36 PM

Huh. That clears a lot up, actually.

And makes a heck of a lot of sense.

Thank you, thank you.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 07:37 PM

Not a problem.

Here to help!

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 07:39 PM

Hm, certainly still seems to occur outside of bubbles, and well after using them.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 07:39 PM

Shooting the sharks also generates particles.

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 07:40 PM

I can skip all this, though I'm unsure if there is a bug in the door or not. The livestream only seemed to show Vahkiti slipping through the door.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 07:40 PM

Killing all the sharks spawns the Kaukau, and after you get that the door opens.

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 07:40 PM

Well, I feel like a dummy. Guess I oughta be using my luck switch for this.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 07:41 PM

MWAT (this area) is very fickle due to the particle overload. Extreme caution needs to be exercised at all times here, I've learned.

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 07:42 PM

No kidding.

But hey, at least the saves work. Saving grace.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 07:42 PM

Indeed...

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 08:12 PM

At this point, I'm assuming I'm either massively unlucky or this is borderline impossible.

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 08:46 PM

Whenever I get down to one or two sharks, that's usually when the game decides it's done and crashes.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 08:47 PM

Yikes. At this rate, skipping past it seems like the most viable option until we get particles worked out (provided the debug menu is enabled, of course).

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 08:47 PM

It isn't, so I figure this is as far as I get for now.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 08:48 PM

Oof. Sorry 'bout that.

Eljay Johnsen 05-Jun-19 08:48 PM

No worries! Just the way of things for now, nothing to be too upset about.

ulvenAspiration 05-Jun-19 09:35 PM

characters are invisible during Onua meeting Gali

oh also i managed to do this

i know it's a particle overflow i just

friccin love how i fell off the map

game crashed after i tried to go to gali's level

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:01 PM

They seem to be invisible for all of them on my end. O_o

Can you confirm @The Cap'm (Reese)?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:05 PM

okay what the fuck

yes I can

but this was working, like, yesterday

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:05 PM

THat's why I'm confused as well

I KNOW you tested it

More than once at that

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:06 PM

i'm fucking baffled

this...creature that is masquerading as a video game is disturbing me more and more by the day

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:09 PM

Oh my god WHAT

It's the hookmods (edited)

I deleted them and the characters came back

What the SHIIIIIIIIIIT

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:10 PM

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:10 PM

WAIT

I think I know why

Yeah

Okay

Somehow OptionalPatchNative got included in the main patch set. Probably my bad for rushing the hotfix.

And you know what that does, right?

It reenables the position data in the cin_char SLB

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:11 PM

nulls position

yeah that

me word bad

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:12 PM

Meaning all the cinematic animations are now offset

So. We can fix this one of two ways.

Never mind I found a third. For now.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:13 PM

~~wait, four~~

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:13 PM

We seriously need to come up with a way for the game to clean up after itself, but for the time being, I can apparently null out the file, and the game won't flip out

I'm doing this because while we can add files with patches, we can't REMOVE them with the current setup

We can only replace them.

So I guess another hotfix is in order with a nulled out optional patch DLL.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:15 PM

1.3....2 or 3?

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:15 PM

2

I'll also include the Nuju fix in this one, and finish Pohatu's grapple

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-19 10:16 PM

the nuju one is why I was wondering about .3 or .2. saw the updated patch notes

benji 05-Jun-19 10:18 PM

oh yeah OptionalPatchNative slipped right in

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-19 10:19 PM

Some day we need to come up with a new patching system that can DELETE files as well as add and replace them, but for the time being, nulling it out will do. (edited)

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 12:37 AM

Alright, hotfix 1.3.2 is now up.

Eljay Johnsen 06-Jun-19 12:43 AM

Booting the game up through the launcher seems to bring this up.

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 12:43 AM

Uncheck the test menu option.

Wait

I haven't released that yet

I'm tired.

Uh

Eljay Johnsen 06-Jun-19 12:44 AM

XD

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 12:44 AM

~~I swear if I released with the text menu enabled by default somehow~~

Ffs

I'll get this up before anyone else notices.

Eljay Johnsen 06-Jun-19 12:45 AM

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 12:47 AM

For yourself now, just edit the bionicle.ini in the install folder.

delete the legotester line

Eljay Johnsen 06-Jun-19 12:48 AM

Okie dokie.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 06-Jun-19 02:33 AM

You can get stuck here.

Also I can't figure out a way to get to that next pillar.

G-Bond 06-Jun-19 08:40 AM

You have to lower down your FPS.

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 01:31 PM

We really need to buckle down someday and figure out this deltatime shit.

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jun-19 01:32 PM

Especially if we want quest rewards in Ko-Koro. Reminder that the Element of Melting is impossible to get without 30fps

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-19 01:32 PM

umm akchually you can use pause buffering

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jun-19 01:32 PM

And no, I don't include glitches or exploits.

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 01:32 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-19 01:33 PM

I got completely DESTROYED with FACTS and LOGIC

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jun-19 01:33 PM

Likewise, SWRD above can't be traversed normally without the grapple+sphere bug.

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 01:33 PM

Well no.

There are spots where you can easily jump the chasm

It's really badly designed

Or rather, the Kakama is.

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jun-19 01:35 PM

Point.

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 01:35 PM

It's the Superman paradox. How do you design a challenging game around a character or power that by nature breaks challenge?

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jun-19 01:35 PM

...Make higher ledges (in this case)?

Design the areas with high speed in mind?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-19 01:36 PM

>Design the areas with high speed in mind? speedrunning intensifies

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jun-19 01:36 PM

Not what I meant.

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 01:36 PM

Yes, and they did do that in some areas.

PTOS comes to mind, where Kakama jumps are actually REQUIRED.

XROD rather

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jun-19 01:37 PM

Was about to say.

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 01:37 PM

However, it can't be denied that both the Kakama and Miru were nerfed from alpha to Beta.

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jun-19 01:37 PM

Also, side note, but I've still yet to see anyone make that jump in TELE to where the button is.

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 01:37 PM

Which is the crux of the Superman paradox.

You either nerf Superman to make the game fun, or you make the game absurd in every way.

It's a shame too, because I can see a lot of promise in the chaining of mask powers like the alpha could allow for in some places (edited)

IF the game was designed around it.

ulvenAspiration 06-Jun-19 02:30 PM

heheh

kryptonite fog

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 06-Jun-19 10:56 PM

Does the transition between walking and surfing still not work on TA05?

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 10:56 PM

?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 06-Jun-19 10:56 PM

This bit:

Just kills me when I walk in

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 10:57 PM

Then why are you walking in?

Use the Akaku.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 06-Jun-19 10:57 PM

Why is that hidden?

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 10:58 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ask Saffire.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 06-Jun-19 11:23 PM

Any way to get past this bit? And yes I looked around with the akaku

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 11:24 PM

Look up. ;P

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 06-Jun-19 11:24 PM

Ahh yeah, figured it out right before you said that

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-19 11:24 PM

xD

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:04 AM

Game really likes to crash in the room with tahu's Volcano Glyph. I don't need it for the boss battle right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Jun-19 12:04 AM

you do for the token door

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-19 12:05 AM

And to get to the boss once in the room.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:07 AM

Oh forgot, I can cheat it in.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:23 AM

So game crashes on the makuta level.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:24 AM

~~What Makuta level?~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-19 12:24 AM

After Tahu's part, or...?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:24 AM

Yeah, after you kill the dragon

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-19 12:24 AM

erm, that's not supposed to happen

I meant Tahu's part in the Makuta level.

not sure about that crash, though...

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:25 AM

I swear to god if you're doing what I think you're doing.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-19 12:25 AM

...Me?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:25 AM

No

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:25 AM

It loads the level, I can see onua it stutters makes some noises and then dies.

What did you think I was doing?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:26 AM

What resolution are you running the game in?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:27 AM

2560x1440 because ultrawide still don't work.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:27 AM

* deep breath * (edited)

G-Bond 07-Jun-19 12:27 AM

B O I

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:27 AM

I am getting really tired of having to repeat this.

I even made it as clear as possible in the launcher on the last patch.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:28 AM

FMVs are the cinematics right?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:28 AM

The pre-rendered ones, yes. You make games, I figured you'd know that.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:29 AM

I don't because FMVs are before my time

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:29 AM

sigh look, I'm sorry if I'm seeming really snarky right now, I'm just REALLY tired of this getting reported.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:29 AM

But I've had no problem with all of the other cutscenes before.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:30 AM

The opening ones too with the lego logo?

Or are you playing from the test menu?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:30 AM

I'm playing from the test menu, but when they do play they stretch out to my correct resolution.

The intro/logo cutscenes that is (edited)

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:31 AM

Are they able to play to completion, or are you skipping them?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:32 AM

Yeah, I've seen all of them so far, they're pretty great gotta say.

O the intro ones

I haven't checked playing those all the way through (edited)

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:32 AM

Well the pre-rendered ones should not be able to work at wide resolutions, and will crash. Makuta's level has one at its start.

I swear to god if one person comes in and reports this, I'm disabling the FMVs by default again.

Speaking of, I think I'll relase that new launcher version now with the testmenu toggle

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:35 AM

Yeah, it does crash straight away without the test menu. Weird, didn't do it last patch. (edited)

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:36 AM

It should have.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:40 AM

You know what, that cutscene at the start of the makuta level is 21:9.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:40 AM

nani

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:40 AM

It's just condensed down to 4:3

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:40 AM

huh

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:41 AM

Hold on a sec

It's quite a bit off because I did a snip of it, but those black bars on the top and bottom wouldn't exist if it were upscaled to 21:9. (edited)

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:43 AM

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:45 AM

I can understand why they did it here, to make it look cinematic when there weren't many wide/ultrawide screens out there, but there are still things today that do this fake 21:9ing thing. Netflix is a nightmare on ultrawide, most movies on there are 21:9 scaled down to 16:9 so I get double the black bars instead of none. (edited)

Anyways... how's it goin'? (edited)

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:51 AM

It goes. Just working on dumb things and the launcher.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470688952352776/586387237097308176/2019-06-06_22-52-02.mp4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470688952352776/586395737642893312/He_Fite_Bacc.mp4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470688952352776/586395800888672262/He_Fite_Bacc_2.mp4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470688952352776/586403866883391499/2019-06-06_23-54-24.mp4

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 12:56 AM

Ahh, being very productive I can see.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 12:57 AM

:p

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 01:03 AM

Uhhhhh

When installing the launcher update

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 01:04 AM

wut

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 01:04 AM

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 01:04 AM

Is it still currently running from your previous playthrough? it takes a bit to shut down

It shouldn't take THIS long, but it's being weird

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 01:05 AM

Nope, just checked through task manager, nofin.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 01:06 AM

Well I mean it wouldn't be NOW, but it might have been when you started installing

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 01:06 AM

Mhh, so should I abort then?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 01:06 AM

Retry didn't work?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 01:06 AM

Nope

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 01:07 AM

Is your antivirus blocking it for some reason?

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 01:07 AM

Nope, pretty positive it's not.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 01:08 AM

Well just hit ignore then.

Chances are the old version will still be there.

(It hasn't changed so..)

As long as you're installing to the same place, you'll be fine.

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 07-Jun-19 01:09 AM

But ignoring will probably continue the update and ignore that file, aborting might let me try it again.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 01:10 AM

Well again, it hasn't changed at all since the last version so the one you already have installed with remain.

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:22 AM

May have an issue.

Restarted my computer, and tried to boot up my save.

This plus Tahu standing in a Pakari loads up briefly, and it instantly crashes.

No error message, just a total shut down.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:27 AM

Send me the save.

Also what area is this?

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:27 AM

I am... not sure. XD

And where would I locate the save?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:27 AM

The Data folder

Also do let me know if there are any issues with the launcher like Jocool brought up. These I can probably fix myself, aha. (edited)

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:35 AM

Attachment: player2.sav (3.77 KB)

That oughta be it.

And nope, launcher seems to be okay for me.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:36 AM

nice

OSI ERROR: Reference beyond start/end of array What a useful error.

(edited)

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:39 AM

XD

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:43 AM

Apparently it's mask related.

Removing the mask values from the save fixed it. O_o

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:43 AM

o.O

Now it feels personal.

You know... given the mask and all.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:44 AM

It's apparently the Vahi specifically, so if anyone should be upset, it's me.

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:45 AM

XDD

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:45 AM

Attachment: player2.sav (3.74 KB)

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:45 AM

That's really awful too, cause I went back for the Vahi.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:45 AM

That should work sans the vahi

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:45 AM

I went through the Vahi portion without it and replayed the level to get it.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:45 AM

Try grabbing it again

Hmm...

Wait you didn't pick it up before?

Did you EVER pick it up?

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:46 AM

Nope. Skipped it by accident.

Eventually. I just had to go back to pick it up.

As in replay that portion of the game.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:46 AM

But did you actually get it?

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:46 AM

Ayup.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:46 AM

Oh okay.

I was going to say we have a problem if you didn't get it but it logged in the save anyways.

For the record btw, the saves are just in pure XML now, so you can edit this easily if it comes up again.

mk5a being the Vahi.

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:48 AM

Gotcha gotcha. And you would recommend picking it back up again?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:48 AM

I would encourage it just to be sure this wasn't just a fluke.

Though the fact that it came with the save to me is concerning.

Okay I've narrowed the issue down.

OH WAIT I remember this issue now. We had this in Onua's level once

Going back to the area where some masks are picked up after collecting them will result in a shutdown like this.

You can get the Vahi safely, just don't go back to that area after.

@ShadowDraikana Reminder that this is still a thing.

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:55 AM

Ooooooh, well fudge!

That is good to know.

I'm just trying to get one more token, game.

Well, thank you ever so kindly. I hate to bother you, but I certainly do appreciate it.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:55 AM

It's aight. Is the token requirement for Tahu's boss too high?

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:56 AM

I dunno if I'd say too high, I'm just one away.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:56 AM

I thought it was too, but @The Cap'm (Reese) seemed to think it was fine.

I don't like the idea of having it be JUST so.

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 02:56 AM

That's why I'm replaying it, though I am struggling to find one last one.

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:56 AM

Which is what I'd like to avoid tbh.

At the very least, Onua's level makes it clear from the beginning that token doors will be a thing throughout the game.

So I guess by this point, having the restriction be a bit tighter is not necessarily bad. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Jun-19 02:57 AM

I think it’s too high as well, but I’m biased

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 02:58 AM

~~Go clip though a wall, Speedrunner~~

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Jun-19 02:59 AM

~~i’m trying to find such a clip. going through/around token doors would be the ultimate skip~~

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 03:00 AM

Or just try and find some kind of overflow to negative your tokens and gain infinite. xP

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Jun-19 03:01 AM

that would require 2 billion tokens

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 03:01 AM

I mean often times with these things, if things go backwards too far they loop back to max. But it depends how the game is coded.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Jun-19 03:02 AM

yeah, but in testing where I tried to break the token number I went past 10000 and it didn’t overflow

I think that one day I will find something like the SHRN5 door skip for every level

Eljay Johnsen 07-Jun-19 03:50 AM

For what it's worth, I can confirm this is still an active bug.

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/212

The Taratoka-Nui occasionally disappears during the fight · Issue...

This is an issue regarding the beta. Sometimes, when you stun the Taratoka-Nui into a place where there isn't a platform, it will just completely disappear. The health bar is still there, b...

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 03:51 AM

Ye

mnicho54 07-Jun-19 08:05 AM

Hi there! Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I couldn't get the first cutscene (with Matoran) on Onua level and the second one before the Onu Koro (I also missed the tutorial stone at the beggining ). I'm running the latest beta version

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Jun-19 10:54 AM

Those cutscenes are going to be in Rebuilt, which isn't released yet, you aren't doing anything wrong

ShadowDraikana 07-Jun-19 03:51 PM

how is this still a thing

I fixed this one a while ago

did that get reverted too?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 03:52 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ShadowDraikana 07-Jun-19 03:52 PM

well I'll have a look

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 03:52 PM

Did you ever fix it for the Vahi?

ShadowDraikana 07-Jun-19 03:52 PM

I need to fix the logging anyway

because I figured out how the quest items log

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-19 03:52 PM

I swear the Vahi was only one of a couple that were still broken

ShadowDraikana 07-Jun-19 03:53 PM

so I can look into this in a bit

since Ko-Koro now depends on Reese since the only thing not done is some new dialogue

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-19 03:53 PM

it's written.

prolly should go over it this time to avoid redoing it when it's already in the game

ShadowDraikana 07-Jun-19 03:55 PM

it's not in the slb

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-19 03:55 PM

i know

UTTER_BODGE 08-Jun-19 11:58 PM

- activate mask of invisibility, character will turn transparent - back up against wall, enough so the camera is shoved close enough to the character that they'd turn transparent if they weren't already - run forwards/spin the camera around so you're not up close to the character anymore - character turns from transparent to solid, overriding the mask's transparency effect (edited)

Attachment: 2019-06-08-2100-50.mp4 (706.95 KB)

if I had a penny for every time a game's naively gone "oh, this event happened, better change the status of this thing" and it just does it directly

instead of >mask of invisibility is on y/n >we're up against a wall y/n >ok so do we want to be invisible right now

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Jun-19 09:57 AM

Dying during the Kokuru's intro makes the text stay onscreen.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 09-Jun-19 10:00 AM

Can we confirm that this can happen during the other intros too?

at least during the ones where you can die?

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Jun-19 10:00 AM

There aren't others where you can die.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 09-Jun-19 10:00 AM

what about taratoka nui?

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Jun-19 10:01 AM

You're locked in place as soon as the platform starts falling, and can't move until the intro is over.

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Jun-19 10:37 AM

Erm. This was supposed to have been removed, yeah? (rebuilt)

ScrapMetaru 10-Jun-19 04:52 PM

So leaving Vatuka still crashes, like, 70% of the time.

ScrapMetaru 10-Jun-19 05:00 PM

Four crashes in a row. I JUST wanna go to Gali...

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 10-Jun-19 05:03 PM

Oof

KrazyK 11-Jun-19 03:56 PM

Is there a way to access game controls in game? (edited)

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 12-Jun-19 05:58 AM

Here's my best understanding of the bug I found earlier, I couldn't find any thing about it on the git so I hope it's not already known. (This is all for the beta) Due to the game being 32bit, it's only allowed to use less than 2gb of ram to allocate to the textures, if you replace the Art.blk with a version larger than about 1.8 gb the game will crash on startup. This would most likely happen when trying to replace any other packs or files as well. I also found that removing certain images from Art.blk can cause the crash as well, don't know which images though. @V A H K I T I I suppose, don't really know who else to @

(edited)

benji 12-Jun-19 10:39 AM

Uh... 32bit limits the RAM at 4gb right?

Or maybe that's just the OS

Vraiment 12-Jun-19 01:07 PM

32bit CPUs can only address 4GB if I recall correctly

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 12-Jun-19 01:55 PM

Well either way the art blk can't be over 2gb.

benji 12-Jun-19 03:24 PM

yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Saffire used a signed int somewhere in the BLK process

because that would halve the max value

UTTER_BODGE 12-Jun-19 04:02 PM

@(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 if you're upscaling textures be aware of the common pitfalls that come with it

like, if you upscale something meant to tile on all 4 sides, you can end up with seams there

cause the AI doesn't know it's supposed to loop

solution: make a 3x3 grid of the texture, upscale that, then crop it back down to the middle part

or find some way of automating that

or if you've got one that tiles left and right but not vertically, do a 1x3 grid, etc

ran into that while upscaling alpha team textures myself, meanwhile some other guy came along with a massive 3-4 GB pack of upscales that were just done en masse

95% looked like absolute muddy shit

didn't tile either

and were way bigger than they actually needed to be

and made the game freak out on particular stages, FPS dropping to like 3-4 and textures getting scrambled between objects

have seen other people do the same with lego racers and without them actually being attentive those attempts have also ended up looking like shit + being massively inefficient

and depending on the upscaling program you're using there may be different options for dealing with noise, which can help or fuck things depending on what the texture is

a lot of those texture packs people have done end up looking less detailed than the originals cause they just smoothed everything out into 2048x2048 blobs

or they look like shit cause putting high res textures on low poly environments/characters just looks uncanny

point is it's very case by case and you have to put solid effort into it so I hope you're doing that haha

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 12-Jun-19 04:17 PM

I am, don't worry. The only issue with it I've found so far is that some of the textures now look too good for the geometry.

No fps drops so far, they don't look muddy, and tile just as they do in the original game. (edited)

UTTER_BODGE 12-Jun-19 04:17 PM

good good

kiitos 14-Jun-19 10:12 AM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/256

White screen and crash at launch · Issue #256 · TheLegendOfMata...

"Beta" October 23, 2001 After attempting to launch the beta from the launcher, a blank screen pops up and a message that says "unhandled exception: c0000005 at address: 0...

what about this bug?

i've just got the game and have on idea to fix that

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 14-Jun-19 05:52 PM

@V A H K I T I or @The Cap'm (Reese) My debug menu stopped appearing after reinstalling the beta, how do I fix it? It's getting to be a pain to play through every level just to test textures. (edited)

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 14-Jun-19 07:09 PM

Also I was wondering where would one download another copy of the current beta without using the launcher. (edited)

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-Jun-19 12:58 AM

Really need the cheats now if anyone can help?

UTTER_BODGE 15-Jun-19 01:38 AM

in Bionicle.ini

@(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231

if you've got it installed in program files, make sure you're either running your text editor as admin or saving the file somewhere else then copying it into program files

otherwise either your text editor will yell about not being able to save it or it'll go to the magical virtualstore land

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-Jun-19 01:41 AM

That's already set up tho

Still no debug menu.

Also, another bug has appeared. The game is crashing when I enter the Makuta level no matter what. I tested playing on 16:9 and 4:3, either way it still happens. (edited)

UTTER_BODGE 15-Jun-19 02:01 AM

are you running the game itself as admin

if not, it won't be using that file

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-Jun-19 02:16 AM

It runs the launcher as admin and when I play it loads into the test menu, but the debug menu doesn't work

UTTER_BODGE 15-Jun-19 02:22 AM

first I've heard of that happening

I don't even use the launcher personally

but doesn't that launch some autohotkey thingy

I doubt that'd be related though

should only affect the scrolling keys right

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 15-Jun-19 02:31 AM

Yeah, and occasionally while playing the hotkey thing will pop up saying: (#) inputs received in the last (#) minutes would you like to continue? and it makes no difference if I click yes or no. (edited)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 17-Jun-19 12:51 AM

@Marow_Ghost

Marow_Ghost 17-Jun-19 12:51 AM

Hi

Gundam nuggers 17-Jun-19 12:52 AM

@Marow_Ghost hey dude.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Jun-19 12:52 AM

hi

Marow_Ghost 17-Jun-19 12:53 AM

Hello.

V A H K I T I 17-Jun-19 09:48 AM

New fone, who dis? :v

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 17-Jun-19 11:19 AM

Im tim

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 17-Jun-19 01:10 PM

They had some issues running LOMN on their laptop... two weeks ago. I need to get through my tweets faster. (edited)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 17-Jun-19 01:12 PM

yes

davidvkimball 18-Jun-19 04:04 PM

There's a softlock in the game after you defeat the spider creature boss. If you exit the room, and then go back, there's a door and a web and you are permanently trapped. If you play an earlier part of the game, the door is permanently closed even after you re-defeat the boss.

CyclonatorZ 20-Jun-19 07:38 AM

Oh, that's still not fixed, huh? Ah well, I assume it's no easy fix if it hasn't been done yet.

LOZZA 20-Jun-19 12:20 PM

Beta October 23, 2001 I've installed the zip version of the beta and manually patched it to version 1.3.2 I double click the try and run 'LEGO bionicle.exe' and nothing happens. I meet all the required specs and I am running Windows XP sp3. I also can't run the new launcher as well. Can someone please help ASAP -Laura

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Jun-19 12:20 PM

Does the game exit to desktop or does it display an "Unhandled Exception" message?

V A H K I T I 20-Jun-19 12:21 PM

Additionally, the launcher does not support Windows XP

LOZZA 20-Jun-19 12:22 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) it doesn't boot what so ever when patched and when un patched I get the black texture bug.

@V A H K I T I have you guys considered making an XP launcher

V A H K I T I 20-Jun-19 12:24 PM

Given what would need to be removed from the main one for it to function, it's not in the cards at the moment.

LOZZA 20-Jun-19 12:26 PM

@V A H K I T I oh ok do you have any idea why it wont boot when manually patched then?

LOZZA 20-Jun-19 12:49 PM

UPDATE Some how fixed this my self

It's something to do with the voodoo files

ulvenAspiration 21-Jun-19 01:09 PM

game crashes trying to get to gali's stage

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Jun-19 02:28 PM

try again

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-19 12:09 PM

Can anyone help me?

Attachment: boss3_whyyy.mp4 (1.54 MB)

G-Bond 25-Jun-19 12:58 PM

Click the attack button

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-19 01:01 PM

fug

The Cap'm (Reese) 25-Jun-19 01:01 PM

...did you not try that before?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-19 01:01 PM

No

The Cap'm (Reese) 25-Jun-19 01:01 PM

G-Bond 25-Jun-19 01:02 PM

B o i

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-19 01:03 PM

Please don't kill me, I'm stupid, I can't help it

and NOW his health is at 0 and he keeps fightin

and NOW he stopped with the boulders

G-Bond 25-Jun-19 01:09 PM

.....

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-19 01:09 PM

Okay, I'll try the quick kill

The Cap'm (Reese) 25-Jun-19 01:10 PM

well I can't replicate the "keeps going when dead" thing

so

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Jun-19 01:10 PM

I shot the weak point first frame

it didn't even appear

just subtracted one from the health, it got to 0, and he kept going

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Jul-19 09:27 AM

Probably could have guessed this, but if you're on a vine in Lev7 when the time runs out, the game doesn't snap you back to the start point

UTTER_BODGE 03-Jul-19 03:16 AM

scrp could use a pos tweak

UTTER_BODGE 03-Jul-19 05:19 AM

looks like there's several other pickups in that area that could be adjusted

also shoutouts to the lsrp that spawns out of bounds and presumably immediately falls into the void forever

V A H K I T I 03-Jul-19 01:20 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) So Ko-Koro is still crashing for you, and we need to get that Takara fixed. @ShadowDraikana, do you have time today to work with him on that?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 03-Jul-19 01:21 PM

It's not just Ko-Koro

it's also Onu-Koro and Ga-Koro

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Jul-19 01:21 PM

~~i mean, rebuilt Ko-Koro likes to randomly give me the 1001d6d3 crash, and has since you first made it~~

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 03-Jul-19 01:21 PM

and before anyone asks, I am using the up to date assets

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:21 PM

to be fair I've gotten the crash Reese has been getting a few times myself

but not what Ondrik is getting

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 03-Jul-19 01:22 PM

Could it have something to do with the INI?

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:22 PM

wot

I'm convinced bettersaver has a bug somewhere

because there's no explanation for why we keep seeing issues the xmls unless there is a bug

might be worth pointing out VS dies on trying to compile benji's xml code for VS-OSI

benji 03-Jul-19 01:37 PM

that's unrelated

wait VS dies? what do you mean "dies"?

I know that there's a build error that I haven't looked into with VS-OSI, but it still builds the hookmod

also VS-OSI has nothing to do with BetterSaver

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:40 PM

yeah the compilation error wasn't related to the hookmod

benji 03-Jul-19 01:40 PM

also what XML issues?

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:41 PM

issues being they are corrupted in some manner. as in, values get added incorrectly to the point where the game crashes if it tries to read from the save.

it's seemingly random

@The Cap'm (Reese) post that save file here

benji 03-Jul-19 01:41 PM

I saw the file (edited)

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:41 PM

what was wrong with it?

benji 03-Jul-19 01:42 PM

looks like a valid XML file to me

I didn't do an in-depth investigation, just opened it up in a text editor

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Jul-19 01:42 PM

Well, it makes the frontend save menu crash.

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:42 PM

^^^

benji 03-Jul-19 01:42 PM

can you start a blank save and reproduce the issue?

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Jul-19 01:43 PM

It's random. I've had it happen twice, but never consistently.

I even did another run after, doing all the same things, and it didn't happen.

benji 03-Jul-19 01:44 PM

tbh, I could look into it, but doing LSS stuff is way more interesting and satisfying

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:45 PM

^^^ there's a bug in bettersaver or somewhere related to saving that crops up randomly

benji 03-Jul-19 01:47 PM

well the good news is, I don't necessarily need to reproduce the saving part now, because the frontend shouldn't crash at all, even if there is a bad XML

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:47 PM

wat

benji 03-Jul-19 01:49 PM

what do you mean 'wat', if the XML isn't valid, then the game expects the save system to report that as 'no save'

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Jul-19 01:50 PM

Well, the XML is doing something. Without it the save screen loads fine.

ShadowDraikana 03-Jul-19 01:50 PM

^^^

actually this is a good chance to test out the debugger

I can find out if this is an OSI issue or not

benji 03-Jul-19 01:51 PM

go for it

well, you would have been told that anyways (the OSI ERROR: means it's an OSI issue)

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 09-Jul-19 06:57 PM

Opera doesn't like BMP https://twitter.com/VisceraBot/status/1148724974036779008

Kittenfiend Pupperfluff (@VisceraBot)

@LegendOfMataNui Uhhhhhh. D:

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 09-Jul-19 08:02 PM

https://twitter.com/VisceraBot/status/1148727847432798208

Kittenfiend Pupperfluff (@VisceraBot)

@LegendOfMataNui Okay, wasn't Opera, Firefox didn't want to either

JrMasterModelBuilder 10-Jul-19 12:32 AM

What page?

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 10-Jul-19 10:19 PM

I assume the download page for the game (edited)

Either the landing page or the game itself

https://twitter.com/VisceraBot/status/1148725069490749441

Kittenfiend Pupperfluff (@VisceraBot)

@LegendOfMataNui I clicked download and this happens

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Jul-19 06:23 AM

Just installed LOMN on a different PC

unpatched it tries to run

patched it says that the code execution cannot continue because a DLL was not found

MSVCP140 and VCRUNTIME140 DLLs

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Jul-19 06:43 AM

Update: Replacing the ijl15 DLL with the old one worked

benji 23-Jul-19 09:08 AM

Yeah you need the visual c++ Redistributable

That's intended behavior, although im not sure we tell people what Redistributable they need to download

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Jul-19 01:03 PM

Maybe add that as something that the Launcher would install?

V A H K I T I 23-Jul-19 01:05 PM

Might be a good idea. If Steam games do it literally every fucking time you launch them some days, why can't we?

ShadowDraikana 23-Jul-19 03:02 PM

good point

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 25-Jul-19 06:15 PM

https://twitter.com/ThatBlueBolt/status/1154513847895699457

ThatBlue-Bolt (@ThatBlueBolt)

@LegendOfMataNui I installed the latest beta and followed the instructions. Tried to launch the game in windows 10 using XP compatibility and it would go black like it wanted to start but did nothing

ShadowDraikana 25-Jul-19 06:16 PM

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 25-Jul-19 06:17 PM

I was just about to take a nap idk what to do here.

UTTER_BODGE 29-Jul-19 04:54 AM

using the mask of invisibility in lev3 mtup crashes the game

warped to another area and using it was fine

???

trying it in different areas, works a-ok, warp back to mtup, use it, it crashes

@ShadowDraikana uhhhhhh

lolwat

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Jul-19 05:12 AM

that's known

activating the huna in any area with a frozen character crashes the game

UTTER_BODGE 29-Jul-19 05:18 AM

oooookaythen

who's the frozen character here? gali or something?

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Jul-19 07:12 AM

The matoran asking for help.

ShadowDraikana 29-Jul-19 11:06 AM

Yep

Its a result of broken AI

JrMasterModelBuilder 06-Aug-19 04:41 PM

Someone via email having issues with the launcher: (edited)

V A H K I T I 06-Aug-19 04:44 PM

The debug menu fix script is trying to run more than once. Either it never closed or he tried running it multiple times

@benji, if you can port the in game fix you made to alpha and main, we can be rid of this entirely

benji 06-Aug-19 04:52 PM

I think @ShadowDraikana could after looking at what I did

Also we shouldn't be packaging debug menu scripts with the users' versions of the game, right?

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 04:53 PM

what exactly did you change do

benji 06-Aug-19 04:53 PM

check the diff

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 04:53 PM

I can see what you did but

benji 06-Aug-19 04:54 PM

It now just checks for key-down events, not key-down and key-held

just make the same change in main patch, and then in the alpha osi, remove the like 6 instructions that correspond

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 04:55 PM

so we have to keep pushing the button now instead of holding it down.

benji 06-Aug-19 04:55 PM

yep

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 04:55 PM

i take it we can't fix it being tied to the framerate then?

benji 06-Aug-19 04:56 PM

we can but it'd be a bit more work

and I like this solution much more

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 04:56 PM

well hold on now

is there anything aside from the debug menu that'd be affected by fixing the framerate dependency

benji 06-Aug-19 04:58 PM

no

this is just the cheatlist file we're talking about

I did fix the framerate dependency

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 04:58 PM

ok so this isn't a platforms kind of issue

benji 06-Aug-19 04:58 PM

it's no longer dependent on framerate

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 04:58 PM

where one thing affects abput 5 others

UTTER_BODGE 06-Aug-19 04:59 PM

it simply ticks every frame and now it only checks on key down instead of key hold, yeah?

benji 06-Aug-19 04:59 PM

I don't recall what you're referring to, but no

it isn't an every frame, it's a callback run for any kind of input, it then checks the input details

UTTER_BODGE 06-Aug-19 04:59 PM

mkay

benji 06-Aug-19 05:00 PM

process is every frame, event is one monolithic ubercallback

or onevent or whatever (edited)

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 05:01 PM

aight, i just wanted to verify since if there was something that could be changed elsewhere to fix this and other things i was going to say that'd be the ideal solution. but since it is not, never mind. I'll implement this into the legacy and alpha patches now.

UTTER_BODGE 06-Aug-19 05:03 PM

so LSS related stuff is pretty much done? haven't done widespread testing but no known issues remaining?

somewhat out of the loop here

looking forward to playing with it once I get some free time though

would also like to compare LSS of the vanilla beta OSI against current main patch, like we're doing for game assets

just to look for any forgotten about or accidental changes

there were a few of those in the assets, so

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 05:05 PM

something else I want to see

alpha LSS

comparison between it and vanilla... yeah that might get us somewhere on that fuggin Kakama problem

UTTER_BODGE 06-Aug-19 05:07 PM

aah yeah that's still a thing

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 05:07 PM

still have not a clue on how or why that happened

it just showed up one day

UTTER_BODGE 06-Aug-19 05:07 PM

so, vanilla vs patched LSS comparisons of both alpha and beta then

benji 06-Aug-19 05:08 PM

@UTTER_BODGE well the compiler still needs lots of love, particularly I'd like classic for loops and proper error reporting and panicking and sync, but it's functional as long as you always write correct LSS

UTTER_BODGE 06-Aug-19 05:08 PM

hah

good enough

benji 06-Aug-19 05:08 PM

Also, I've been asking for a full, exhaustive test for a while now and haven't heard anything

UTTER_BODGE 06-Aug-19 05:08 PM

like, the fact that this exists in the first place is damn impressive

y'all are insane

benji 06-Aug-19 05:09 PM

yeah I'm super proud of the compiler, but particularly the decompiler

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 05:09 PM

I said last night we did extensive testing... and we're going to do even more exhaustive testing now with the patch almost finalized

so if there are any issues with LSS that we haven't caught yet, we should catch them now

benji 06-Aug-19 05:17 PM

I'm taking Principles of Compiler Design this coming semester and I have a feeling I'm not going to have any issues lol

ShadowDraikana 06-Aug-19 05:17 PM

heh

with this beauty you've put together I'd certainly think so

St Jimothy Dexter 10-Aug-19 02:49 PM

i was wondering

im trying to run the bionicle beta, but it freezes on the lego screen

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 02:50 PM

sounds like an FMV issue

St Jimothy Dexter 10-Aug-19 02:51 PM

i mean my pc should be able to run it but, idk

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 02:51 PM

No, the FMVs have a known freezing issue

St Jimothy Dexter 10-Aug-19 02:51 PM

is there any way to get around it (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 02:53 PM

First, you can skip them with the escape key. If that doesn't work, you can remove them from the game's Cinematics folder

St Jimothy Dexter 10-Aug-19 02:54 PM

got em, idk what happened but it works now

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 02:54 PM

good!

St Jimothy Dexter 10-Aug-19 03:01 PM

i got to the game but its all black aside from some glow effects

im gonna try just re installing

St Jimothy Dexter 10-Aug-19 03:21 PM

i dunno, ill just wait for the full release later today

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 03:35 PM

are you using the patch?

St Jimothy Dexter 10-Aug-19 03:40 PM

theres a patch?

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 03:40 PM

Yes

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 10-Aug-19 03:40 PM

y e s

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 03:40 PM

To make the game run on modern systems

St Jimothy Dexter 10-Aug-19 03:52 PM

i put it in compatibility mode and that seemed to work

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 03:52 PM

good

V A H K I T I 10-Aug-19 07:50 PM

ScrapMetaru 10-Aug-19 07:50 PM

FMVs are really inconsistent for me. sometimes they play, some times the game becomes unresponsive for their entire duration. It returned to gameplay eventually, but now something is causing black flashing in Whenua's hut. It might be the lightstones.

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 07:53 PM

how to fullscreen?? after fmvs kicks into windowed, mouse stuck on left

TheRealGenm 10-Aug-19 07:56 PM

my launcher updated but when trying to actually download the REBUILT version, it's an extremely slow download.

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 07:58 PM

help

mouse stuck

V A H K I T I 10-Aug-19 07:58 PM

alt enter.

1

@TheRealGenm It's not a small file.

TheRealGenm 10-Aug-19 07:59 PM

filesize?

V A H K I T I 10-Aug-19 08:02 PM

700mb

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:07 PM

not sure if this is a bug, but after the onu koro intro cutscene is done, I just see a black screen with all the hud elements for 8 seconds before it loads the Mata Nui lore cutscene

V A H K I T I 10-Aug-19 08:09 PM

That is a bug, yeah. Not sure what's up with it

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:09 PM

hud usually goes away at the end of the scene for me

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:10 PM

oh, and the inventory option in pause menu is broken

just keeps the game paused without a way out that doesn't involve alt f4

V A H K I T I 10-Aug-19 08:11 PM

this is known but so far uncracked

Right @ShadowDraikana?

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:11 PM

alt tabbing is also wierd, as it doesn't unlock my mouse from the window for some reason

leaving me unable to interact with any other apps i have open, like discord

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:12 PM

question sweg

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:12 PM

yes

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:12 PM

do you have any debug features enabled

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:12 PM

i do not

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:13 PM

no debug menu, no badcheat

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:13 PM

ah

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:13 PM

if you don't have those enabled then my initial theory is out

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:13 PM

i don't have any of the cheats or debug stuff turned on

fresh experience

aside from the bugs i mentioned, the game goes smoothly

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:14 PM

welp that theory is officially out

awesome to hear

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:14 PM

i love the lore cutscene, just wish it was higher quality

i do also have a personal complaint about the launcher, in that there's no option to make it not close each time any of the LoMN options, be it alpha, beta, or rebuilt, are selected (edited)

oh, and i just made the game freeze because i still had the discord window focused while rebuilt's intro FMVs were playing, and happened to tab back in as the FMVs were still going

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:19 PM

still getting cliff crash... should i record it?

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:20 PM

is it the cliff area with falling platforms?

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:20 PM

yes

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:21 PM

yep, known

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:21 PM

any way to get around it?

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:21 PM

did you try loading the save

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:21 PM

not yet

didnt crash this time :?

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:23 PM

it shouldn't persist after loading

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:23 PM

from my experience, i avoid the crash by not using the laser attack

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:23 PM

w h a t

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:23 PM

why would i use the attack its just platforming

sweg (Andrew) 10-Aug-19 08:23 PM

it literally is the only way i get through the level without much crashing

at least in beta

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:29 PM

getting a similar crash to the cliff one, seems to be whenever you fall into a "void" area?

reloading still fixes it

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:41 PM

sooo i beat nui jaga without getting the ruru.. after going into the tunnel i try to backtrack and the nui jaga has repspawned, preventing me from leaving the exit area

Pred1059 10-Aug-19 08:41 PM

Hmm...ran into the inventory glitch that locks the game. Alt F4'd out of it. Got the error: Unhandled Exception c0000005 At Address 0060b338

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:42 PM

yeah the hotfix will take care of the scorpion issue

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:42 PM

is there a way to noclip?

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:43 PM

i think you can shoot him through one of the cracks to get the wall open

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:43 PM

barely i'll see if i can manage tho

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:44 PM

like I said, this will be included in the hotfix

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:48 PM

managed to snipe his ass spider boss respawns too

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:56 PM

how2get ruru?

need strategy guide

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 08:56 PM

ruru is in a cave off to side of the one that Kapura is wandering around in.

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 08:59 PM

oh i found it i aint see my nigga kapura tho

there he is!!

found him

yeah bosses respawn for a 3rd time

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 09:13 PM

onua roll level is hard

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 09:14 PM

That's not really a bug

JSLBrowning 10-Aug-19 09:16 PM

Patch notes: "Git gud."

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 09:16 PM

Heh.

TheRealGenm 10-Aug-19 09:36 PM

I'm trying to open "setuprebuilt.exe" but it won't open after it took all this time to download

TheDinosaurPlanet 10-Aug-19 09:37 PM

;-;

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 09:37 PM

The launcher is supposed to auto-open that IIRC (can I get a fact check there @V A H K I T I )

TheDinosaurPlanet 10-Aug-19 09:37 PM

^

TheRealGenm 10-Aug-19 09:37 PM

Well it didn't auto-open so I had to try opening it myself, and Task Manager says it's running but nothing is popping up

TheDinosaurPlanet 10-Aug-19 09:38 PM

hmm

TheRealGenm 10-Aug-19 09:41 PM

Should something pop up when i open "setuprebuilt"?

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 09:54 PM

how to use earthquake?

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 09:54 PM

Left Ctrl

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 09:55 PM

nvm its ctrl

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 10:03 PM

if you die to the earth elemental and respawn he will not attack you

ShadowDraikana 10-Aug-19 10:05 PM

yeah the softlock issue

Another issue thats been unsolved since day 1

BLADECross 10-Aug-19 10:06 PM

Got a likely inventory-related crash, exception c0000005 at address 0054eb0a. Probably related to the game burping and clearing the pickaxe quest in Onua's level w/o the pickaxe, then finding the pickaxe for real.

TheRealGenm 10-Aug-19 10:07 PM

setuprebuilt.exe is still allegedly running, but i'm not seeing anything happen

i'm gonna attempt redownloading it

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 10:22 PM

when looking for the stone tablet it says "someone said it may have been near a" then crashes

actually wait

it was using the grappling hook while swimming

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 10:25 PM

Yeah, dont do that

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 10:25 PM

i didnt mean to

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 10:25 PM

That's a weird, random thing, and we haven't figured out why it happens (edited)

Puñ☀ 10-Aug-19 10:37 PM

guess water really doesnt want you going any faster

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 10:39 PM

where are the tokens in galis level

i can only find 10

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 10:39 PM

There are 14 in the village and 3 in the nearby slide.

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 10:40 PM

are some underwater?

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 10:40 PM

Yes.

Make sure to use the air bubbles while underwater to replenish air

thirtyspeed 10-Aug-19 10:42 PM

i found some they are really hard to see underwater

being blue

how to interact with the horns?

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Aug-19 10:48 PM

Press space.

Sterling_Tranovak 10-Aug-19 10:52 PM

so everytime i try launching rebuilt i get an "Unhandled exception: c0000005 At address: 6c51128d" error ive added the compatibility and changed the bik files in the cinematics folder ive also tried running it in a 4:3 and nothing seems to work (pls @ with response) (edited)

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 10-Aug-19 11:45 PM

anyone with insight for this?

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 10-Aug-19 11:59 PM

looks like 7zip can't open the exe as an archive

no idea why

V A H K I T I 10-Aug-19 11:59 PM

The patch was never finished uploading tbh. Idk how you even managed to get a prompt for it...

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 10-Aug-19 11:59 PM

holy shit

it told me to get the patch

V A H K I T I 10-Aug-19 11:59 PM

But why

It should just be asking to download the game.

There really isn't any patch yet.

Hence why I stopped it

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 12:00 AM

gee gee launcher

it still tells me a new rebuilt patch is available

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 12:09 AM

in chat with another user with same issue

the launcher trying to install PatchO.exe but archive manager cannot open it

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 12:10 AM

What is the contents of the versiono.txt file in the game's install sir?

*dir

If it either doesn't exist, or is any different than "1.0.0", then that would account for the issue

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 12:11 AM

I have a versionL.txt that cats out to 1.3

jesus christ windows how do I sudo notepad

it keeps bitching at me about perms

benji 11-Aug-19 12:14 AM

you right click and pick Run as Administrator

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 12:14 AM

you can't do that on a .txt

ok I modified the version txt to say 1.0.0, now it says there is a launcher update available

it's trying to reinstall launcher 1.3

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 12:17 AM

Now hold on a sec

>Sudo

What exactly are you playing on..?

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 12:17 AM

windows, a shit os

1

ok so it reinstalled launcher 1.3, still trying to patch rebuilt

and it changed the contents of it to say 1.3 again

the version txt

should I make it read only?

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 12:26 AM

No the launcher version is supposed to be 1.3

The game version is supposed to be 1.0

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 12:28 AM

ok I just pasted in a versiono.txt with contents 1.0.0

it's still trying to DL patch

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 12:30 AM

Where did you paste it?

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 12:32 AM

../LEGO Media/LEGO Bionicle Launcher

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 12:38 AM

That... is wrong. :v

Do you not have a LEGO Bionicle (Rebuilt) folder?

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 12:49 AM

I have a LEGO Bionicle folder

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:00 AM

is it just named LEGO Bionicle? if so, you got the alpha version, hence why it would prompt for a patch

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 01:00 AM

ok so is there something else I need to do?

my launcher has a button to play rebuilt

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:00 AM

i'm just trying to look a bit more into what's happened so far

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 01:01 AM

which is what prompts for the patch

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:01 AM

so you selected rebuilt, but it installed a different version?

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 01:01 AM

I can hop in voice if it's better

arcturis 11-Aug-19 01:01 AM

well not sure what happened here

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:01 AM

i'd agree to it, but atm my microphone is broken for whatever reason

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 01:01 AM

ouch

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:03 AM

my only idea for fixing this is just completely uninstalling, and then reinstalling the launcher to see if the rebuilt option downloads the correct version

(for charles)

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 01:10 AM

perfect

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 01:11 AM

What exactly was your process? Like you downloaded the launcher and were just prompted for a rebuilt patch before you even were prompted to install the game itself?

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 01:11 AM

I think I identified the issue actually

so I updated the launcher

already had it installed

it said it was unable to locate the game

prompted me to locate the file

and I selected the alpha exe

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:12 AM

ahhhh

there is the issue

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 01:14 AM

BOI

That'll do it alright

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:15 AM

to be fair why would there be a prompt to select the exe, for all 3 versions, that happens even after said version is installed in full

it leads to issues like what charles had here

Makuta Luroka (Charles) 11-Aug-19 01:16 AM

well now that there's one mystery solved

the next is why my DS4 will not charge

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 01:17 AM

Because the installer is a separate program. It can't know where you selected after running it.

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:17 AM

that makes sense i suppose

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:30 AM

a bug i haven't mentioned (or rather, multiple) is various screwey UV faces on various level objects

the first one noticeable is in the main menu, on the back left cliff

UTTER_BODGE 11-Aug-19 01:31 AM

main menu env is unfinished

in vanilla all the plants near the temple structure were displaced/not moved to match the new terrain shape

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:31 AM

ohhh

interesting

UTTER_BODGE 11-Aug-19 01:32 AM

it was just plainly a WIP

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:32 AM

are there plans for an improved MM environment?

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 01:32 AM

MM?

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:33 AM

main menu

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 01:33 AM

Ah

Yeah it'll be cleaned up sooner than later.

~~We totally don't have other plans involving that area...~~ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:33 AM

mmm

now back to what i was saying about wierd UVs, there's some odd UV marks in the dark cave level that requires the huna for most of it

taking place at dead ends

if you want screenshots, i can go ahead and take them starting tomorrow

since i am a bit tired out from staying up, as is my usual for summer break

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 01:37 AM

I don't doubt it tbh. Saffire had a lot of texturing snafus, aha.

Eventually we just plan on going through each area systematically and cleaning them up one by one

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:37 AM

also, what's with the two dead ends in onu koro

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 01:37 AM

I don't know tbh. That was just part of the original model

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 01:38 AM

there's also literal dead ends for level transitions in both the huna puzzle cave, and the huna collapsing platforms cave

can be seen with huna of course

arcturis 11-Aug-19 01:59 AM

not sure if its a bug or just my dumb ass but I beat the nui-jaga scorpion as onua, didn't pick up the mask, went into the next area and then realizing I got stuck I went back and was stuck in the stalagmite circle

the opening that previously came up was closed again

and now my save file is stuck inside the stalagmite circle

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:01 AM

After the Nui Jaga?

That's something we need to script a condition for relatively soon @ShadowDraikana

arcturis 11-Aug-19 02:02 AM

yeah this part

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:02 AM

In the meantime you can go about fixing it one of two ways.

arcturis 11-Aug-19 02:02 AM

if that sc helps

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:02 AM

You can either try and snipe it through the bars, or just edit the area in your save file. (They're just plain XML so it's a simple edit!

)

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 02:02 AM

I fixed this btw

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:02 AM

After launch?

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 02:02 AM

Too late to be included

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:03 AM

Ah okay cool

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 02:03 AM

Ye

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:03 AM

Ditto for the Fikou Nui I assume?

arcturis 11-Aug-19 02:03 AM

ok will try, thanks

i was able to snipe it through stalagmites so it's all good

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:07 AM

Nice.

arcturis 11-Aug-19 02:09 AM

one other thing, after beating the nui-jaga I go through the door into this place, but i cant interact with the mask symbol on the wall? was there supposed to be a mask drop from the nui-jaga?

oh nvm I just walked through the darkness and found a next area, i think im good lmao

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:12 AM

Those are supposed to be hints about what mask to use

If you didn't get the Ruru yet, you missed it in the big room with Kapura.

There's a side path that contains the mask.

However once you get through the area after this you don't really need it.

arcturis 11-Aug-19 02:14 AM

got it

ill backtrack a bit (edited)

thank you!

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:14 AM

Well the problem is where you previously got stuck

You can't as of right now.

You'll have to go through to the Kini and use the portal back to Whenua's hut that opens after you talk to him

arcturis 11-Aug-19 02:21 AM

i actually made it back and got the mask lol

so should be good now

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 02:21 AM

Fikou-Nui backtrack is fixed in the patxh

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:21 AM

nice

THat's another thing you can thank Benji for btw @sweg (Andrew) BetterSaver is a newly added function as well. Without it, more than half of the things you see in Rebuilt right now would not be possible

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 02:22 AM

what is bettersaver?

you mean the new save system?

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:23 AM

A full replacement of the game's default save system, yes

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 02:23 AM

ohhhh

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 02:23 AM

And far more.robust

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:23 AM

Basically the save data code in the vanilla game only has space for roughly 32 different conditional events, which were all accounted for.

Benji's new code add about 256 more

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 02:23 AM

yeah, i really do love the new save rewrite

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:23 AM

As well as changing the save format from an unreadable binary file into simple XML (edited)

Without this new code, the Takara could not function, the quest regards could not work as intended, and these fixes to the backtracks from the minibosses could not exist.

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 02:24 AM

Anyway bois I must slep

Keep me posted on any new issues we need to address

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:25 AM

I think we could all use some sleep, aha. Night!

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 02:27 AM

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:27 AM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470688952352776/534874643752943616/night.png

~~Jesus it's so jarring to look back at the OG beta models now~~

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 02:29 AM

~~N64 models~~

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:30 AM

All in all I'm actually surprised at how smoothly this launch went, even accounting for the actual issues OF launch itself.

Between YouTube fucking up and leaking the trailer 2 hours early, and the BMP server having a conniption that's persisting to this very moment, the launch itself was a total disaster. Yet overall, very few people were super peeved about it, and after it was resolved, we only got a trickle of bug reports mostly involving issues we're already aware of, or have fixes for already in the pipeline for a hotfix.

Considering we only had 24 hours to do a final build and full game test run, then fix half a billion bugs we found in the process in a mad rush, I'd say that's an achievement compared to our usual post-launch chaos.

In the past, there's always been some catastrophic oversight even when we HAVE had plenty of time to prepare for release.

This time most of our major issues were completely out of our control anyways.

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 02:35 AM

it was a disaster? it felt like there were a few hitch ups, but other than that it seemed like the release went alright (edited)

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:37 AM

Well consider the fact that the launch trailer advertising a now supposedly live release leaked 2 hours early, while we were still streaming Quest For The Masks, and I hadn't even uploaded the game to the server yet.

Then add onto that the issues the server itself was/is apparently having delaying it even further.

Once I found out about the trailer, it became a mad rush to get the game uploaded before too many people either noticed or got pissed off about it, all the while struggling to maintain a stream that would have extreme buffering issues for the viewers if I let the game upload proceed too quickly

All while still trying to concentrate on the actual game being played.

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 02:39 AM

even with all that, it seemed like the people didn't mind, too much

i of course witnessed the 5 minute meme in the final hour before upload

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:40 AM

What was that again? I'e already forgotten tbh. xP

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 02:41 AM

every 5 minutes biomaster andre would say every 5 minutes rebuilt would come out within the next 5 minutes

as a joke to create unnecessary tension and dissapointment

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 02:45 AM

Ah.

I wasn't present for all of that.

I was busy making sure the upload was still going, the game was still visible, and the server here in general wasn't going full Chernobyl.

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 02:46 AM

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 03:02 AM

my game stops responding when the Legend of Mata Nui plays in Onu-Koro

the dialogue keeps going but i'm not able to interact with the game anymore

this is the second time i've gotten this error

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 03:02 AM

🇻 🇦 🇭 🇰 🇮 🇹 🇮Today at 01:56 Run the game in compatibility mode, (not the launcher) and try again That seems to be a common occurance

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 03:03 AM

oh the game started responding again after the dialogue ended

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 03:03 AM

It will do that, yes

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 03:03 AM

must be something about the video?

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 03:03 AM

No, read the above.

If you have this issue, it will always happen unles compatibility mode is set

We don't know exactly why but the videos themselves are fine

Strike 11-Aug-19 04:18 AM

Hello, I'm having a problem with the game where... Not sure, I guess the full screen isn't working? No matter what resolution I put in it's not centered, the taskbar is visible and I can't uze my mouse cursor in menus, any idea what's causing this issue? Running on Compatibility Mode btw

If I hit enter I can get the game started and I can control fine, but the screen alignment and resolution, and the task bar problem persists

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 04:51 AM

Uhhm, I got a crash.

Right after the scorpio fight, heading into the next room triggered it. (edited)

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 05:07 AM

I broke the rolling section too.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 05:07 AM

how

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 05:14 AM

I was able to roll up when trying to get some symbols that I missed, then I death warped and the game couldn't put me in the beginning. So it spawned me inside the rail instead.

Strike 11-Aug-19 05:16 AM

Got a crash when falling to my death in the first room with the collapsing floor

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 05:20 AM

Interesting, I am able to replicate two specific crashes in the same room.

If I do not follow the path that was intended, the game panics and crashes. Since the grappling hook limit is almost non existent, I am able to skip certain grappling hook spots and cause a crash. I'm gonna have to record this.

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 06:16 AM

https://youtu.be/rPl9RC_R0l4

DeviantXS

Grappling these crashes.

Nuff said

Here is the video relating the crashes.

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 06:41 AM

Actually, Bug #1 is consistent.

It doesn't matter if you rush or not, it constantly crashes. So I guess I can't play the game anymore. :/

marklincadet 11-Aug-19 11:35 AM

hey uh every time i try to run the game from the launcher i get an error saying i am missing ijl15.dll

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 11:35 AM

what the fuck

how does that even happen

it should install with the ijl15 dll

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:36 AM

Is the dll getting flagged by your anivirus

Because that can happen

marklincadet 11-Aug-19 11:37 AM

it's happened when i tried downloading both the beta and rebuilt

the dll is something that's with the game files and not already on my computer, right

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 11:38 AM

in the game files

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:46 AM

strange shadow at the edge of the water pit

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:46 AM

Known.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 11:46 AM

I think that's all the shadows combined iirc

since it's at the origin

Fobo 11-Aug-19 11:47 AM

ok so the game keeps dying in the final section of the onua glyph room I'm just clearing out the room to open the exit gate

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:47 AM

Shadows gather at the origin with a lot of matoran in a map

Fobo 11-Aug-19 11:47 AM

making semi cinsistent use of the glyph power

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 11:47 AM

And when exactly does it crash?

Fobo 11-Aug-19 11:47 AM

right after the last rahi is dead

marklincadet 11-Aug-19 11:58 AM

It looks like it's my antivirus causing the dll to be missing, checking the reports show that it "fixed threats" on the days I tried to install LOMN

now the question is how I should actually get that dll into the game files

justframbo 11-Aug-19 12:04 PM

when you quit during a playthrough you have to go through all of the intro sequences again

in addition, the 'inventory' menu is still buggered

i.e crashes the game upon opening

Fobo 11-Aug-19 12:07 PM

So I managed to get past that section

then the game crashed

now every time I click play game when i restart it, it crashes again

in case you need the codes

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 12:12 PM

So just to be clear this crashed when you exited the room with Onua's earthquake glyph?

Fobo 11-Aug-19 12:15 PM

Yes

willliam 11-Aug-19 12:34 PM

is there anything i can do when i get the player completed 40293054% save file thing?

Spaceman 11-Aug-19 01:33 PM

i defeated nui-jaga, the boss music is still playing and i didn't got the mask of night vision for beating him as a reward, so i can't make progress in the area after the fight

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 01:33 PM

you don't get the mask of night vision as a reward for killing the nui jaga

thats not how this works

you have to get the mask of night vision elsewhere

It's in the exit where Kapura is

near*

Spaceman 11-Aug-19 01:34 PM

hm ok

R3T7 11-Aug-19 01:37 PM

When I get Onua’s Earthquake Glyph, I proceed through the door and enter that horde fight against the bug nests. After I defeat the nests the door opens. If I go through that door the game crashes, every time. It then corrupts my save file and crashes every time I hit “Play Game” on the main menu.

Spaceman 11-Aug-19 01:40 PM

ok, found the ruru, thx

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 01:40 PM

No problem

Spaceman 11-Aug-19 01:40 PM

btw, you are trapped if you beat nui-jaga before you have the mask

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 01:41 PM

That'll be in the hotfix.

We're well aware by this point

Spaceman 11-Aug-19 01:41 PM

R3T7 11-Aug-19 01:42 PM

Any ideas about the Glyph crash? I have had it happen after two full re plays.

Spaceman 11-Aug-19 01:42 PM

i got out of there by getting killed from nui-jaga on purpose

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 01:43 PM

That has happened to me before @R3T7 , but I can never consistently have it happen, and it hasn't popped up too recently in my testing. Apologies.

R3T7 11-Aug-19 01:44 PM

I am trying to see if the vets you do before matter, for example I know it crashes if you have already talked to Whenua in the shrine, I’m currently trying to do it without talking to Whenua. Thank Mata Nui for the .sav files!

Whoah! That actually worked! Getting the Glyph before you talk to Whenua on the podium seems to have avoided the crash! That is so weird!

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 01:50 PM

O_o

R3T7 11-Aug-19 01:52 PM

It could just be a coincidence, but now I have a .sav for right after you complete that Rahi Nest fight and go through the door to return to the shrine. The only thing I did different was not talk to Whenua.

Ok now it gets weirder, I talk to Whenua, I go though the portal and give Nuparu his disk, then back through the portal and into the boss room, as soon as I enter the boss door, crash and save file is corrupt, maybe I shouldn’t do the Nuparu quest?

No it’s definitely Whenua that causes it. I tried again, talked to Whenua but didn’t go through the portal, then when I enter the boss door the game crashes. On the third try I didn’t talk to Whenua and went right for the boss door, it opened up and didn’t crash! I guess that Whenua conversation is just acting buggy.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 02:01 PM

so that tells me that activating the portal is breaking something, since afaik that's all Whenua's SHRN conversation does

R3T7 11-Aug-19 02:06 PM

I guess so, that would be consistent, I wonder why.

Fobo 11-Aug-19 02:14 PM

Could you send me yor save file I'm stuck at exactly the same point

TheDinosaurPlanet 11-Aug-19 02:50 PM

I'm assuming that this is a bug

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 02:50 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 02:50 PM

? x2 (edited)

TheDinosaurPlanet 11-Aug-19 02:50 PM

The color of the onu-matoran

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 02:50 PM

You talking the colors? Because that's not a bug

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 02:50 PM

that's intended

TheDinosaurPlanet 11-Aug-19 02:50 PM

oh

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 02:51 PM

It's the tree keeper color from Tales of the Tohunga/Quest for the Toa

who this character is

TheDinosaurPlanet 11-Aug-19 02:51 PM

oh okay.

Never played that

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 02:51 PM

~~we getting continuity up in this bitch~~

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 11-Aug-19 02:52 PM

~~woooooooo~~

DarkHenrik 11-Aug-19 02:58 PM

it kinda makes sense too, as the three has a green color to it and his mask and feet are colored green too, so it kinda fits. Sort of like a job color. (edited)

JrMasterModelBuilder 11-Aug-19 03:26 PM

@V A H K I T I There's a couple of comments on the BMP post asking questions: http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/blog/the-legend-of-mata-nui-rebuilt/

JrMasterModelBuilder

The Legend of Mata Nui REBUILT | BioMedia Project

Preserving BIONICLE media for past, current, and future BIONICLE fans.

omegalucas 11-Aug-19 07:22 PM

I fought the Ta-Koro invasion, then talked to Vakama and as I returned the enemies and hives respawned

Did I miss anything?

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 07:23 PM

if you were able to talk to Vakama it should be over

omegalucas 11-Aug-19 07:23 PM

Weird

Djazzmann 11-Aug-19 07:59 PM

I imagine this is pretty standard but I'm getting crashes maybe one in every ten times I either load a new level or die. Also it freezes (not a crash though) most times I open the inventory. Also there's one specific wooden platform in LE03 that I die every time I try and get onto. Aside from that amazing work guys, keep it up!

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:00 PM

There is a bunch of crashes, yeah.

I just streamed to my gf for a good while, and had quite a few of those quick crashes. Also wasn't aware of the ability to entirely miss the Mask of Night Vision, so had to kinda start over for that one, yeah.

I could provide the video if the devs wanna refer to some of the errors that crop up from said crashes

Is it also a known bug about Rahi just accelerating to high speeds and becoming almost invulnerable because of it or just outright being invulnerable sometimes?

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:06 PM

The rahi being too fast is known.

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:07 PM

Gotcha. I can also attest to at least once where no matter how I tried to shoot the Nui-Jaga, it was invulnerable for a life. Would have to die once or twice before it was vulnerable to attack again.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:08 PM

...That is not something I know about. It does have a rather small hitbox, however.

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:08 PM

Might've just been that.

Would you like the Twitch highlight of the stream to refer to whatever crash error codes popped up?

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:08 PM

I suppose.

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:08 PM

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/465947628

Highlight: Serrix Plays: A Bionicle game? In this decade?

shadow_serrix - Bionicle - Twitch

It kinda happens at random intervals, so they're dispersed throughout the stream. It's a few hours.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:09 PM

Ah. I'll try combing through, but timestamps would help

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:10 PM

Right. I'll see what I can do.

I'm also not sure if it's just my computer, but when the game tries to play the exposition cutscene with Whenua explaining the backstory with Mata Nui, it kinda does a weird partial freeze where the audio keeps playing, but the visual freezes up. The game's still active too though, if I hit ESC at some point it'll skip to after said cutscene.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:13 PM

The FMV issue is known. This game is weird with system specific issues, so that happens on some but not on others

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:13 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:13 PM

Are you running in XP compatibility mode?

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:13 PM

No. Just general Windows 8.1.

I think.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:14 PM

I'd recommend running in XP compatibility mode

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 08:15 PM

So my game crashed and despite having finished some side quests already, it reset my health/mask power bar

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:16 PM

Did you leave the map where you collected the upgrades before the game crashed?

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 08:17 PM

i was actually kinda far in the game, i had already left Onu-Koro, but the game crashed when I attempted to leave the Nui-Jaga room

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:17 PM

Hmm.

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 08:17 PM

then when i tried reloading, it had sent me all the way back to the beach, except no cutscenes played, all my progress was still there

the only things missing were the health and power bar extensions

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:18 PM

That sounds like the save corruption issue.

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 08:18 PM

ah so that's been happening already to some people?

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:19 PM

Yes, and it's something that didn't come up during testing either, so it's concerning

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:19 PM

Okay so the first crash that happened is actually nearly an hour in, at 00:58:37. It occurred when I tried to do the little easter egg with pressing the P key as Onua.

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 08:19 PM

hmm, i think the save corruption issue may have something to do with the Test Menu actually

because I didn't have the issue until i attempted to play the Makuta level using the test menu

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:20 PM

Odd.

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:20 PM

I'll just make a list

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 08:20 PM

when i returned to normal gameplay after using the test menu, the save was corrupted, saying my game was a percentage completed, but the number was ridiculous

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:21 PM

@Serrix That first crash seems to be the sound buffers crash, which is known. It would have happened sooner or later in the level if it hadn't there

and @TheRealGenm that is indeed the save corruption glitch

Crash at 1:27:25 is also sound buffers.

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:24 PM

Was about to point it out yeah.

Seems like sound buffers might be a semi-frequent crash

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:25 PM

Trust me, it is

one of the biggest remaining ones, issue since day one

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:25 PM

Feel like most of these will be such crashes then.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:26 PM

Hopefully! If it's an expected one, that means we've done our job with fixing a lot of them

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:26 PM

Oh, but I can say, I remembered that the boss fight against the earth elemental didn't play its boss music, I believe. It played a general ambient tune.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:26 PM

Yep. Boss music is hardcoded in the EXE, so it'll take some more work to fix that

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:27 PM

Although after beating it and Whenua phased into existence and talked to me, the music cut in for what i assume was the end of the track.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:27 PM

Same with the elemental boss' noises

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:27 PM

Didn't realize but yeah, now that I think about it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:27 PM

These are things we're planning on fixing in the near future

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:27 PM

Oh and there was one occasion where I climbed up through the wall and died outside of the map

In the dark maze area prior to having to start over because I didn't pick up the Mask of Night Vision

I somehow grabbed onto the edge of the sigil on the wall depicting said mask, climbed up, and just phased through the wall.

Was interesting.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:28 PM

The backtrack from the cave there is coming in the first hotfix, for the record

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:29 PM

Good stuff.

Sorry i didn't check the known buglist in #lomn-info I suppose, d'oh

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:30 PM

That's okay. Just remember to do that from now on.

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 08:40 PM

Yup, looks like your crashes are all ones that are expected. ~~Thank god, we didn't break anything!~~

Serrix 11-Aug-19 08:40 PM

TheRealGenm 11-Aug-19 09:17 PM

So the Tan and Black Matoran right outside the Turaga's hut in Onu-Koro seems to just give out his side-quest reward even if you haven't done his side quest

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 09:46 PM

sigh thats somehow a thing?

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 09:46 PM

I TOLD YOU

I FUCKMOTHERING TOLD YOU

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 09:47 PM

ITS NOT MY FAULT DAMMIT

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 09:48 PM

~~Now confirm my Jala issues and I shall be vindicated~~ :v

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 09:48 PM

Honestly

Look at the code and the flags yourself and confirm for me that bettersaver is screwed up.

Because I feel like Im being gaslit by this game

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 09:49 PM

I'm not home at the moment. But yeah, join the club. :V

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 09:49 PM

benji pls

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 09:53 PM

~~i didn't get that during testing, and I specifically checked for it~~

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 09:54 PM

definitely gaslighting us this game is

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 09:54 PM

when has it not been (edited)

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 09:54 PM

fair

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 10:52 PM

gali looks quite bright in this dark tunnel

seems to have this bright look in dark areas in a few other levels too

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 10:59 PM

yyyyyep thats a bad cave lighting swith

*switch

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:08 PM

oh god what have i done

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:08 PM

Walked into a broken hive.

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:08 PM

the context is i defeated the water elemental boss

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:08 PM

That's what.

oh so you softlocked yourself\

nice

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:09 PM

i guess

literally

all i did was do what i was meant to do

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:09 PM

don't move after Nokama finished talking

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:09 PM

oh

rip me

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:09 PM

or else you get no stone

and you get no Lev3

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:09 PM

why must it be

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:09 PM

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:09 PM

curse you game, now i can't get out because i don't have debug enabled and have to alt f4 yet again

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 11:18 PM

Wait, if I collect more than 100 symbols. Does the game crash?

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:19 PM

Don't believe so.

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 11:19 PM

Because I was able to avoid a crash from my previous video by not collecting them, until I got one by accident.

Or maybe its just a

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:20 PM

~~probably~~

DeviantXS 11-Aug-19 11:20 PM

Man I don't want to restart my whole game.

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:20 PM

~~very likely~~

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:42 PM

meanwhile, the slowest boulders on mata nui

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:44 PM

Ah yes, these

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:44 PM

not very well conveyed in screenshot form, but these boulders for some reason aren't nearly as fast as the ones in the level before, with this one taking at least 10 seconds to roll into the pit behind pohatu

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:44 PM

There's a reason for that

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:44 PM

why is that

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:44 PM

Because they use an antiquated method of programming their physics from the alpha.

The previous area uses randomized vectors and trajectories, while this code uses predefined paths.

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:45 PM

ohhh

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:45 PM

@ShadowDraikana Add R&D for this to the 1.1 milestones if we have a list anywhere yet

We'll need it for roll too after all

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:45 PM

i also seem to have slain the kane ra with the beam attack

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:46 PM

and the game crashed

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:46 PM

yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:46 PM

right

Don't do that

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:46 PM

only after alt tabbing

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:46 PM

well it'll die if the Kane-Ra is gone

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:46 PM

i feel bad for killing it too

it didn't strike back

too much pain after getting koli balls yeeted at it

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:47 PM

really, something I would like a tad more of (which was partly in the sidequest item idea from a while ago that I had) was passive Rahi just around in the world

The turtles at the end of TTUN are adorable, change my mind

sweg (Andrew) 11-Aug-19 11:48 PM

never

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:50 PM

I'm not opposed to that, but I also want to get the WIP passive rahi mod done

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:50 PM

and the idea of Thali-Whali running around in Onu-Koro gives me delight

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:50 PM

@benji and @JrMasterModelBuilder need to work together on that one too

JMMB knows how to mod the EXE in the way for the job to be done, but it needs to be a hookmod, so Benji is also needed

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 11:51 PM

Thali-Wali running around is something I could whip up.easily

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:52 PM

Sweg, if you don't know, we basically managed to force the game to utilize the alpha method of rahi killing where it's not killing at all.

it removes their infected mask, they go passive and run away

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 11:52 PM

and run away forever :v

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:53 PM

ooh now I want a little aquarium somewhere in Ga-Koro with some of those tiny fish and the turtles

~~god I'm getting too excited about this~~

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:53 PM

Actually eventually once we get BHDs and animations I want to add the jellyfish from the MNOG lamps

That way it's not just a static texture on them in the Ga-Koro huts

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:53 PM

heh

~~now I imagine the blue spider skittering around in Le-Koro, and if you talk to it with Lewa he just goes "Daww, you're cute."~~

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:55 PM

I kinda like that.

Or he just makes some twist on his previous joke about it being blue

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:55 PM

heh

"Daww, you're not blue at all, are ya? You're a happy little thing!" "spider noises" "See you later, little buddy!" "happy spider noises" (edited)

ShadowDraikana 11-Aug-19 11:59 PM

adorable

I love that idea

V A H K I T I 11-Aug-19 11:59 PM

❤

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-Aug-19 11:59 PM

but now the big question comes in

what would Onua say to Thali-Whali

~~I now want every toa to converse with a passive rahi as an easter egg~~

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 12:06 AM

I want a muaka that does this.

https://giphy.com/gifs/jerseydemic-l2JhqkUIY8baJUlFK?fbclid=IwAR0Lhv8MsiV-yV4-42lpv5Mm1LIo13M6ETOE42K3QkAPLGlT5pate7bh2Vg

Demic

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:06 AM

"...Ah! Watch out, little bug. I almost stepped on you there!" "bug sounds" "I can see why you escaped from your owner so easily! You're rather quick!" "more bug sounds" "I suppose I'll have to go find you again if you go missing..." "further bug noises" "...please, don't run away again."

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 12:07 AM

xP

ShadowDraikana 12-Aug-19 12:07 AM

❤

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:08 AM

I also have the idea in my head of Kopaka's ending with: "...Wait, I'm talking to a Rahi right now..." "[rahi] noises" "...I need to move on."

ShadowDraikana 12-Aug-19 12:08 AM

HA

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:09 AM

or what if he said "...I need to move along." instead?

i'm sorry that was lame

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:09 AM

and then for omega level comedy, Tahu just goes: "This Tohunga keeps a [rahi] as a pet." "[rahi] noises" "Neat." and that's it

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 12:10 AM

~~Yes fucker~~

ShadowDraikana 12-Aug-19 12:10 AM

Pohatu's be like, Sup fucker

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 12:10 AM

ShadowDraikana 12-Aug-19 12:12 AM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470688952352776/474697842758385669/1518393064069.png

RIP Omega12

He left the server

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 12:12 AM

D:

ShadowDraikana 12-Aug-19 12:13 AM

I miss him.

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:13 AM

rip

meanwhile what is this pohatu boss

a stone duck that never ceases to throw rocks

ShadowDraikana 12-Aug-19 12:14 AM

>duck

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:14 AM

ye

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 12:14 AM

F for omega12

4

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:15 AM

a stone duck huh? is it a duplo duck?

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:15 AM

you could say that

i know i'm meant to kick the rocks he throws, but the rocks after one hit from his stones become unkickable

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:17 AM

i would be that far in the game, but i keep getting the save file corruption that throws me back to the beginning every time i quit

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:18 AM

it can be fixed

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:18 AM

Gali: "Oh? You're not attacking me, little turtle?" "~~i can't eat your ankles without getting closer~~ turtle noises" "Interesting. It looks as if Makuta's influence hasn't spread to the entire population of Rahi just yet..." "more turtle noises" "...Strange. With all the corrupted Rahi on this island, I haven't been able to appreciate them as they naturally are. It's quite...relaxing..." "comforting turtle noises" "..." "you know the deal" "...this is no time to relax! I can learn more about the wildlife once Makuta's grip has been removed from the island! Take care, little turtles. I shall return when the island is safe!" "farewell turtle noises"

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:18 AM

just upload the save here and we can take care of it

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:18 AM

alright, where would i be able to find the save file in the folders? just so i'm on the right track

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:19 AM

data folder

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:19 AM

gotcha

and where is that? (jk i know where it is)

alright so i got a player 0 and a player 1 save, which one of those am i supposed to send?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:20 AM

player 0 is test menu

player 1-4 is normal main menu

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:20 AM

send the player 1 save

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:21 AM

aight

just right here in this channel right?

Attachment: player1.sav (3.33 KB)

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:22 AM

yep

now then

tell us what level you were on before it got corrupted

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:23 AM

I was in Onua's level, at that one part where you have to activate the platforms to proceed forward

it was the area where you had to climb up

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:24 AM

the grapple platforms?

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:25 AM

yeah, well at first it's just platforming, but higher up there's some grapple platforms

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:26 AM

just so we're clear, do you mean the level that has platforms that kill you if you skip at least one platform

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:26 AM

uhh i've never encountered it? i just know that it's pretty early on after leaving Onu-Koro

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:26 AM

ah

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:27 AM

like the second or 3rd area

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:27 AM

alright, that should be enough information

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:27 AM

i know for a fact i'm already past the falling platforms though that's for sure

the cliffside ones near the water, not the ones in the cave

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:28 AM

So CLF1.

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:28 AM

yeah, i'm already past that part for sure

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:29 AM

In CLF1, you need to press a switch to bring platforms out.

Is that the area?

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:29 AM

well i remember i alreaady pressed the switch

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:29 AM

Did you come to a massive cliff face with grappling hook points?

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:29 AM

yeah

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:29 AM

That's CLF2.

That was as far as you made it, I assume?

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:29 AM

then i quit the game, and when i tried to load it, it was corrupt

yep

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:30 AM

alright

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:30 AM

Okay

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:30 AM

so CLF2 it is

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:30 AM

then i think i have it fixed

Attachment: player1.sav (3.33 KB)

let me know if it works

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:32 AM

alright lemme give it a shot

yeah it works, my health boosts from completing side missions are gone but eh, i can deal

oh no

oh no tohunga are filling the screen, OH NO

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:33 AM

.-.

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:33 AM

this is a bad joke btw

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:33 AM

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:34 AM

but yeah thanks for fixing my save

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:34 AM

I think if you increase the health and energy by 20 it'll bring back one level of upgrade?

*in the save file

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 12:35 AM

oh i gotcha. also, any idea what's causing the save file corruptions? or still a mystery at this point?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:35 AM

Mystery. We're looking into it.

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:53 AM

pohatu's boss is giving me some trouble

if i get stunned by at least one of the stone penguin's foot slam attacks, the stone rocks no longer drop from his rock throws for me to kick at him

essentially softlocking me from beating it

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:54 AM

we discussed this in general a bit ago

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:54 AM

we did?

oh ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:54 AM

~~oh, now it's a penguin?~~

and yes

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:55 AM

~~changed my mind, looks like the club penguin duck~~

~~fuck~~

ix 12-Aug-19 02:01 AM

In Gali's level how do you get out of the big underwater cave with the switches after you get the tsunami ability?

going out the way I came just kills me and crashes the game

Djazzmann 12-Aug-19 07:44 AM

Also regarding Gali’s level, the massive Takea shark just doesn’t seem to do anything. Just follows you until it’s on top of you just doesn’t hurt you or anything

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 07:44 AM

Known

Djazzmann 12-Aug-19 07:45 AM

Ok sorry, thanks

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 10:57 AM

lovely jpeg sky in ko-koro (edited)

not really a bug, more just a minor thing that i noticed

we also have some hard as rock tree leaves

Spaceman 12-Aug-19 11:41 AM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 11:41 AM

What were you trying to do?

Spaceman 12-Aug-19 11:42 AM

i think it happens if you try to collect the green orbs in a specific area

thats where the alpha crashed every time after the platforms you need to jump down to get to the earth rune

Burns5| Mr. Steal all ur Waifus 12-Aug-19 12:04 PM

boss healthbar isnt showing

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:17 PM

That's a resolution thing

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 12-Aug-19 12:19 PM

~~they have healthbars?~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:20 PM

~~i never knew this~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 12:23 PM

Just play in 4:3

Burns5| Mr. Steal all ur Waifus 12-Aug-19 12:24 PM

Ah

Aight

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 12:24 PM

~~but then i lose the 16:9~~

2

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:02 PM

i'm now past the stone elemental, and playing as kopaka on his first level

just want to say, good lord climbing up to the alcove is really screwey

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:03 PM

~~that's not what an alcove is but OK~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:04 PM

~~forgot what alcove means~~

but more often then not i find myself falling off and re-ledge grabbing all of the platforms as soon as i ledge grab onto them

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:04 PM

quoting google: a recess in the wall of a room or garden.

and yes, the pillar platforming is jank.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 01:05 PM

but more often then not i find myself falling off and re-ledge grabbing all of the platforms as soon as i ledge grab onto them

oh you're gonna hate Lewa's level

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:05 PM

oh no

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:05 PM

Ooh, yeah.

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:05 PM

not to lewas thing

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:05 PM

Even with vines aside

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:05 PM

but at just how buggy ko-koro is after the invasion

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:05 PM

LE01 and LEP1 are gonna be the death of you

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:05 PM

the villager with the ice melting crystal side quest gives me the reward after speaking to him again

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:06 PM

so that is a thing!

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:06 PM

the dance cutscene can be triggered without finding all the dancing villagers

using the huna in ko-koro results in a crash for some reason

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:06 PM

I got the item without doing the quest one time, but was never able to get it again

Huna thing is known, and applies anywhere with characters frozen in place

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:07 PM

ah

and regarding the dancing villager skip, i literally cannot find the third dancing villager in ko-koro

the first two are simple, but the third i have no idea where, having looked in many spots within ko-koro

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:09 PM

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:09 PM

over in that dark area

~~fuck me~~

oh ye, there's also the blessed trees that can be ascended

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:10 PM

we know

cannot replicate starting the dance with only the first two dancers

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:11 PM

i did some repeat talks to them

with having learned just a bit of the dance

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:11 PM

still no

yeah, had to talk to all the dancers for the scene to trigger

and still can't get the element of melting guy to give me the upgrade without the item

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:14 PM

why is this matoran deep blue now

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:14 PM

...what

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:14 PM

he was cyan before

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 01:14 PM

how even

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:14 PM

i've never seen that happen

what the fuck

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:14 PM

how do i do this

how am i able to have issues no others have come across

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:15 PM

You're getting to me levels of finding shit nobody else can replicate. ~~or Liam levels~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:15 PM

~~o dear~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:15 PM

As far as I can tell this game is riddled with system specific issues

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:15 PM

all i did was clear all the conversations in my save file

just so that i could get the turaga dialogue going due to having skipped the third dancing matoran

but having cleared conversations shouldn't be causing the matoran to change colors

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:18 PM

~~i hate this video game sometimes~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:18 PM

~~video games make people violent~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:18 PM

~~STOP~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:18 PM

~~i was out playing minecraft tending to my farm~~

~~then i just had an urge to go shoot up my workplace~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:19 PM

~~S T O P~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:20 PM

meanwhile i think the speed mask also speeds up item pickup messages

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:20 PM

yes

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:20 PM

very interesting

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:20 PM

because you animate faster.

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:21 PM

oh so all the item messages are based on anim length

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:21 PM

yes

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:21 PM

will keep that in mind

why are there water footstep sounds in various locations on kopaka's levels

first on the dancing matoran pit

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:24 PM

Materials. It's a game-wide issue

Just ignore it.

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:24 PM

then in the caves right after the ice skate item one

alright

what is this

slow boulder case #2

benji 12-Aug-19 01:27 PM

looks like a giant diamond sphere

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:27 PM

It's intended to be a chase sequence. But it's bad.

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:27 PM

on top of that, when the cutscene showing it played out earlier, there was a 2nd one floating above the one moving

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:27 PM

yes

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:28 PM

oh rip

i had a big brain idea and let it crush me

got ye olde sound buffer crash

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:29 PM

not sound buffer probably

particle overload'd be my guess, by my own experience with the thing

Did it kill you?

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:29 PM

it did

with the blade sideways fade out

black*

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:29 PM

that part's irrelevant

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:30 PM

i figured

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:30 PM

crash was definitely particle overload. That thing can keep killing you after the first time

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:30 PM

ohh

i only guessed sound buffers because of the extreme sound repeat

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:30 PM

nope

sound buffers has two distinct crash addresses (edited)

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:31 PM

gotcha

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:31 PM

0055ff98 and 0056 (something something)

(i don't get the second one too often)

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 01:32 PM

I have a question myself btw

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:32 PM

Yes?

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 01:32 PM

Do you remember offhand what the 0052E5D9 crash is?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:32 PM

nope

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 01:32 PM

Fucc

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:33 PM

where is it happening

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 01:33 PM

White screen on startup. Not my issue btw

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:34 PM

looked it up in the good ol' discord search bar, and found a similar thing

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:34 PM

wait

white screen on startup

i think it might be bionicle.ini related

particularly, the resolution output

used to happen for me when starting up the alpha build, fixed it by setting the values to a proper resolution size

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:50 PM

in the cave after the telekinesis mask level, there's this stuck spot

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:50 PM

broken moving platform

only moves at ~30fps

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:50 PM

ah

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:51 PM

before you post it, this also applies to Kopaka's PATH, so you won't be able to get the element of melting unless your fps is 30

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:51 PM

also, this level made me think of something, are the snow footstep sounds tied to kopaka's anims

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:52 PM

no

materials

that applies to every toa

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:52 PM

as soon as i was done grappling in the air, with the movement anim, the snow footstep sounds played

not on any surface when it happened

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:53 PM

walking in midair is a known issue with how the game handles toa in midair

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:53 PM

oh okay

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:53 PM

along with the grapple and hover animations

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:53 PM

yeah grapples are wierd in this game

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:53 PM

yes

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:54 PM

they're essentially just the toa's right hand item (and in pohatu's case his entire right hand)

that detach and float in the air towards wherever aimed

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:54 PM

i mean, yes. by design.

there are a million actual issues with them though

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:55 PM

i bet, what are a few examples of the issues

that aren't just straight crashing

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:55 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) is the expert on that topic

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 01:56 PM

mm

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 01:56 PM

makes speedrunning much easier

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 01:58 PM

oooh yeah

sometimes you can literally just walk on top of the stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiNZLEebMho

OndrikB

[old] Bionicle: The Legend Of Mata Nui Any% No Save Warp in 1:27:3...

There's still lots of timesave potential here, but quite frankly I'm not even sure if I should go for it. Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/nordki

this is a fully commentated run, where I explain the grapple glitches too

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 02:00 PM

Good run too

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 02:01 PM

I got a better one

The potential to go lower is immense

without load times or pause times, sub 70 might be possible

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 02:02 PM

I mean

THe load times are dependent on your HDD really so

~~Get a better PC~~

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 02:03 PM

memory leak lol

I should load the game from the SSD (edited)

V A H K I T I 12-Aug-19 02:03 PM

Y'all better get your ass over to CERN if ya want the real top percentile.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 02:04 PM

THe load times are dependent on your HDD really so

You just reminded me to bug Kaylie about the in game timer again

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 02:04 PM

?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 02:04 PM

On the bionicle speedrunning discord, she said she'd make one

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 02:04 PM

o

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 02:05 PM

Me waiting for it be like

Spaceman 12-Aug-19 02:43 PM

happens every time i shoot on the nests or collect items there

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 02:54 PM

anyone had the issue of Gali's random deaths while swimming?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 02:54 PM

Random death, no.

DarkHenrik 12-Aug-19 02:55 PM

do you mean like when you use the grappling hook?

while in the water?

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 02:55 PM

nope just idle while under water

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 02:55 PM

Do the drowning noises play?

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 02:55 PM

it makes a death sound, i get text on screen from the last matoran i talked to, and then i die

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 02:55 PM

THat's drowning

There's an issue with the countdown text\

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 02:56 PM

ahhh

DarkHenrik 12-Aug-19 02:56 PM

yeah, it's because you don't have any oxygen.

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 02:56 PM

that makes the last text of the person you talked to appear rather than the 54321

(or no text at all on a loaded game with no conversations)

DarkHenrik 12-Aug-19 02:56 PM

swimming into air bubbles will give you some more time

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 02:56 PM

is there an oxygen meter thats supposed to show up?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 02:57 PM

there is supposed to be a 5 second countdown graphic

but that is overridden by villager text

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 02:57 PM

okay

thanks

DarkHenrik 12-Aug-19 02:58 PM

at least you won't end up hearing this while drowning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ekW_RsK7k

BrawlBRSTMs3 X

Drowning - Sonic Adventure Music

Music from Sonic Adventure. Composer(s): Jun Senoue, Fumie Kumatani, Kenichi Tokoi, Masaru Setsumaru Arranger(s): Jun Senoue, Fumie Kumatani, Kenichi Tokoi, ...

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 03:00 PM

oh also, if im idling with my head above the water, whats the button to dive back under water?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 03:00 PM

Press W twice.

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 03:00 PM

thanks

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 03:56 PM

neat, made it out of bounds in the telekinesis cube level

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 03:56 PM

known

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 03:56 PM

VISN likes to do that.

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 04:20 PM

other than the bug, the level is just a pain to try and get through

simply because most of the platforms refuse to allow ledge grabs

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 04:28 PM

and now the cube is gone, apparently because i was using the telekinesis mask as i fell off the platform, and now it's likely out of bounds

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 04:30 PM

yeah

that happens

there's no respawn point for it unlike in TELE

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 04:32 PM

not mentioned, but i skipped the previous level with debug menu just from not knowing what i'm supposed to do

the backtrackable cavern area that is

all i saw was one grapple point, but nothing else was there

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 04:33 PM

is there any way i can use debug to go back to a certain area?

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 04:34 PM

ye, just press the delete key, select WARP TO AREA, then you'll see a map list of your current TOA's level set

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 04:34 PM

If the debug menu is enabled.

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 04:34 PM

ah yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 04:34 PM

which is an option you can check on the launcher

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 04:34 PM

okie dokes, gotcha

uh where in the launcher would i enable it?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 04:35 PM

There should be a checkbox that says "Enable test menu?"

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 04:37 PM

hmm, tried the test menu and pressing delete didn't open debug

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 04:37 PM

hmm

in that case you have to enable it in the INI

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 04:38 PM

alright, what do i change in the ini file?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 04:39 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470688952352776/610332106479894528/unknown.png

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 04:41 PM

is the default cheat being "Urinate=Pohatu" some kind of inside joke?

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 04:41 PM

no

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 04:41 PM

that's badcheat

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 04:41 PM

It activates the BadCheat stuff

sweg (Andrew) 12-Aug-19 04:41 PM

just press P as pohatu

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 04:41 PM

Press P when you're Onua, Pohatu, or Tahu.

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 04:42 PM

oh i know that cheat already, also how do i control the debug menu?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Aug-19 04:43 PM

Delete to activate, Home to select an option, Page up and Page down to scroll

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 04:43 PM

aight thanks

Indie 12-Aug-19 10:39 PM

What are the bosses in the game?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 10:40 PM

Elementals for each Toa (Earth, Water, Stone, etc.)

There are also occasional Rahi minibosses.

Indie 12-Aug-19 10:41 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) nothing about the planned bosses like Makuta or The Dark toa?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 10:41 PM

Oh, I was referring to the ones currently in the game

Makuta is planned yes. Other bosses I'll keep a lid on for now

Indie 12-Aug-19 10:57 PM

What attacks are there in the game besides shooting?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 10:58 PM

Melee, if you're close enough.

Elemental abilities once you collect them

Indie 12-Aug-19 10:58 PM

In the words of that song from Grease.

Tell me more.

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Aug-19 10:59 PM

~~more? There's more?~~

Ballistic367 12-Aug-19 11:00 PM

cant get my game to run properly, when i launch the game it immediately says not responding

Galgo 12-Aug-19 11:52 PM

I got trapped in the room in Kopaka's level that requires the akaku without the akaku

onua's jump seems to get cut off right at the end if you hold w while jumping

TheRealGenm 12-Aug-19 11:57 PM

is the game crashing after onua's elemental boss a common occurrence? cuz it just happened to me right now

also if there's any sort of boss music, it wasn't playing when i entered the room, it was just playing the same music as the toa suva area

TheRealGenm 13-Aug-19 12:20 AM

There's a bug in Gali's level that if you die while swimming fast underwater, you'll respawn running fast, and using a mask power crashes the game

however, using Night Vision didn't cause it to crash. Concealment did though.

TheRealGenm 13-Aug-19 01:37 AM

alright so attempting to backtrack to the gate of Ga-Koro crashes the game, and every time i tried to reload, the game crashes again

UrDidact 13-Aug-19 11:11 AM

I've found two bugs: after beating the Nui Jaga and entering into the next room, if you return to the Nui Jaga chamber, then the path will be closed and you'll never get out

and the other one is the Inventory Menu: when you select it, it won't appear and the game freezes

oh yeah, and the game crashes randomly

UrDidact 13-Aug-19 12:05 PM

and in a point, the cutscene when Whenua explains Onua about the Legend of Mata Nui freezes

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Aug-19 12:06 PM

known

Galgo 13-Aug-19 05:51 PM

Why don't the vines in Lewa's level work that well? (edited)

The Shadow Emperor 13-Aug-19 05:51 PM

Fobo 13-Aug-19 06:41 PM

So the game crashed right after I left the grappling hook section in galis level, it screwed up my save to Also a bit of a suggestion if possible My save has gotten messed up a few times, and while I dont know how common it is, its annoying playing through the whole game just so a crash screws up all that progress, would it be possible to have some sort of save repository on github for each level? (edited)

Ballistic367 13-Aug-19 06:43 PM

will there be a buff to ledge grabbing? its a bit difficult atm

Ballistic367 13-Aug-19 06:52 PM

Also there are several bugs in Ko-Wahi where the terrain doesnt load

Ballistic367 13-Aug-19 07:16 PM

the arm boxes of kowahi boss keep player from entering battle area, sometimes. Vines in Lewahi sometimes launch player straight down and the tree planks in between vines are too small to stand on

UrDidact 13-Aug-19 07:55 PM

Now I can't skip the beginning cutscene, if I try to do it, the game just crashes

EbutKnil 13-Aug-19 08:07 PM

Same as Jaekoff, I am softlocked in the area of Kopaka's level that requires the Akaku because I chose the wrong path. I can't go back to Ko-Kini or complete the level.

Hosomi-San (Spidey) 13-Aug-19 09:11 PM

I've encountered a pretty big bug So I just defeated the nui jaga And went to the cave behind the rock formation, and it just crashes I can't reload the save either because it saved so I can't play my save

ShadowDraikana 13-Aug-19 09:12 PM

Wtf is up with these save corruptions

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:12 PM

I assume by that you mean that loading your save also causes the crash?

ShadowDraikana 13-Aug-19 09:12 PM

I dont ever remember the reports being this numerous

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:13 PM

because just because an area crashes on load doesn't mean your save is dead

if it still crashes on loading the save then yes, it might be a dead save (though in the case of Gali's STRT that just means you need to keep reloading until the model stops having a fit)

Ballistic367 13-Aug-19 09:14 PM

opening up inventory sometimes locks up the game

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:14 PM

we know (edited)

Hosomi-San (Spidey) 13-Aug-19 09:14 PM

Understood

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:14 PM

~~we. know.~~

and i'm willing to bet the reports weren't as numerous because not as many people were active with the LoMN beta

ShadowDraikana 13-Aug-19 09:18 PM

We didnt have this many weird issues with flags being set (thinking of quest items) or corruptions until bettersaver came along. It became extremely noticeable. Granted bettersaver is a godsend but there are issues it has or the original saver has that bettersaver has excerbated.

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:19 PM

here's what i think regarding the issue

put the bettersaver issue with occasional corruption bugs as highest priority work

secondary should be the more major crash bugs like sound buffers and such

i hear the sound buffers are quite difficult to fix, so instead i'd recommend looking into all the other known/reported issues

eg. grapple issues, bad physics with objects like the vines in lewa's level set, and the boulders in pohatu's and kopaka's level sets

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:24 PM

>implying those will be easier

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:24 PM

~~trying to guess what might be simpler~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:24 PM

Well, most of those things aren't

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:25 PM

none of them are really simple to fix i get

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:25 PM

There's a reason they haven't gotten fixed in the last over a year

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:25 PM

why would that be

i don't wanna make too many comments regarding coding related work, since it isn't my area of expertise at all

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:27 PM

You haven't been here that long, so you don't know how messy this game's coding is. We may have LSS now to make things easier, but even with it there are so many currently unexplainable anomalies that we have to look into

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:28 PM

oh, messy coding

just that one bit right there is enough to convince me why the issues would take very long to get fixed

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:28 PM

Even with that, so many things are hardcoded in the EXE that searching through everything and finding what does and doesn't work properly isn't anything close to a cakewalk.

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:29 PM

that's one thing i'm curious about, hard coding in the exe

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:29 PM

And with the advent of LSS, we've discovered a whole host of new issues including level cleanup, so there are many, many things to do.

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:29 PM

is there no source code available for the actual EXE

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 09:30 PM

No. If so we may not be having this conversation right now.

sweg (Andrew) 13-Aug-19 09:30 PM

mmm i see

fair enough i suppose, i'll leave it at that

Hosomi-San (Spidey) 13-Aug-19 10:03 PM

If anyone cares My issue fixed its self

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Aug-19 10:03 PM

Good!

Glad to hear your save wasn't borked.

V A H K I T I 13-Aug-19 10:12 PM

:D

Hosomi-San (Spidey) 13-Aug-19 10:26 PM

Also it seems when I killed the earth boss He took the game with him

Nvm

Glitchipedia 14-Aug-19 08:21 AM

I'm having a problem in the Rebuilt version. The inventory screen won't open.

I'm currently running the game in 16:9 mode, should I try switching to 4:3?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Aug-19 08:31 AM

yes

Glitchipedia 14-Aug-19 08:40 AM

Alright, that worked

Thanks

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 14-Aug-19 08:50 AM

What a fittig name

ゴ Tracyn Senar ゴ 14-Aug-19 11:55 AM

Btw, Gali's section crashes a lot

Mostly at respawns and loading new areas

UrDidact 14-Aug-19 01:32 PM

Yeah, I just arrived into Gali's level and then crashes, and now when I try to open my savegame, it crashes too

justframbo 14-Aug-19 04:07 PM

you may want to fix how the rahi bosses (haven't finished onua's section yet) respawining once their area is re-entered

the barrier in the nui-jaga's level reset and essentially locked the level

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Aug-19 04:07 PM

We know.

As we've said, that will be in the hotfix.

justframbo 14-Aug-19 04:08 PM

very well

Ash 14-Aug-19 05:31 PM

I've tried updating/downloading three times now the Rebuilt version, and each time it finishes it claims "Operating System is not Supported".

V A H K I T I 14-Aug-19 05:34 PM

Well is it supported? You're not exactly giving us ant information here.

Ash 14-Aug-19 05:34 PM

Oh sorry, my OS is Windows 7. And I had it on compatibility mode for Windows XP.

sweg (Andrew) 14-Aug-19 05:35 PM

~~ant information~~

V A H K I T I 14-Aug-19 05:35 PM

Why are you running the launcher/installer in compatibility mode? Neither support xp

Ash 14-Aug-19 05:36 PM

I dont know, I was getting confused trying to run the beta initially.

sweg (Andrew) 14-Aug-19 05:36 PM

only the actual game exe's need compatibility mode

V A H K I T I 14-Aug-19 05:37 PM

We still don't know why.

Ash 14-Aug-19 05:37 PM

Understood.

V A H K I T I 14-Aug-19 05:37 PM

Say @benji, is there a way we can code the launcher to force compatibility mode?

Idk if that's a parameter you can push to an executable manually or not (edited)

ShadowDraikana 14-Aug-19 05:37 PM

~~or find out why it needs it in the first place~~

V A H K I T I 14-Aug-19 05:38 PM

True, bit compatibility bmnode doesn't hurt anything

It's not like dgvoodoo

sweg (Andrew) 14-Aug-19 05:38 PM

~~fix mouse being stuck in the window when alt tabbing too k thx~~

Ash 14-Aug-19 05:39 PM

Ok I just tried it again outside of compatibility mode, and it just said that the OS is not supported again.

V A H K I T I 14-Aug-19 05:41 PM

Are you sure you're not running the launcher in compatibility mode? Maybe you forgot to hit apply or something. If not, try downloading the game installer manually.

benji 14-Aug-19 05:41 PM

Can we see a screenshot of the message?

Ash 14-Aug-19 05:41 PM

yes, I deactivated the compatibility mode.

V A H K I T I 14-Aug-19 05:42 PM

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/gms/tlomn/Launcher/setuprebuilt.exe for if that doesn't take

Ash 14-Aug-19 05:42 PM

It may take a little bit for it to pop up.

V A H K I T I 14-Aug-19 05:42 PM

Also that reminds me @JrMasterModelBuilder, when you're free, can you update the LOMN page on BMP with Rebuilt links and info?

JrMasterModelBuilder 14-Aug-19 05:43 PM

Maybe better if you do it?

Ash 14-Aug-19 05:55 PM

I just reinstalled the loader, I think it's finally working

Nordii723 14-Aug-19 08:22 PM

I am crashing frequently as Gali. Usually happens if I die (especially if underwater), accidently use the grappling hook while swimming or sometimes when I walk into a new area. Don't know if this is happening to anyone else, so here it is. Love the game regardless, btw

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Aug-19 08:23 PM

Dying underwater is known. That causes a particle overload. Grappling hook underwater/on the water's surface is known, and a pretty weird issue at that.

Vortigaux 14-Aug-19 08:27 PM

Skipping the Akaku causes a soft lock later when it's needed to progress.

Ballistic367 14-Aug-19 10:48 PM

The stalagmite platforms in Ta wahi when you're trying to get Tahus elemental power. The ones going downward are fine but the ones where you jump up them fall inconsistently and the back ones sink before the front ones.

Browning 15-Aug-19 12:04 AM

I keep having a problem where it returns me to the main menu every so often during loading screens and i can't do anything, basically a crash

unhanled exception c0000005 at address 774c60f4

BioMaster(André) 15-Aug-19 07:33 AM

uuuuuhhhhh

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Aug-19 07:34 AM

you also need the hook and the Rau

BioMaster(André) 15-Aug-19 07:34 AM

oh ok then

Browning 15-Aug-19 01:36 PM

Hey on the stone elemental boss fight: The koli balls keep getting stuck on to the monster and not despawning. IMO game breaking, making this fight really hard to complete

After 3 are stuck no more spawn

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Aug-19 01:36 PM

known

Browning 15-Aug-19 01:36 PM

Ok

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:37 PM

Right, @ShadowDraikana, is that something you can fix, or do we need @JrMasterModelBuilder on this again?

It's a very specific set of circumstances that cause it from what I recall, and you're only the second user to report it as a result, so it's not a HUGE priority.

Basically it'll only happen if you stun him, he does the earthquake, you dive roll, and miss your chance to shoot him.

But from what I remember it's ONLY if you roll, not if you just regularly jump.

So it could be something wrong with Pohatu's movelist interacting badly with the boss code? Idk.

Browning 15-Aug-19 01:39 PM

Im having it happen often

Basically when he stuns me if i miss the opportunity the rocks get stuck to him when they are thrown

like they spawn out of it when he throws the rocks

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:40 PM

Well... don't get stunned then. It's really not hard.

He stomp, you jump.

It's that easy.

Browning 15-Aug-19 01:40 PM

also the orange indicator is supposed to appear telling me when to shoot right?

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:40 PM

If you don't get stunned

Browning 15-Aug-19 01:40 PM

ive only had it appear once

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:41 PM

Because you didn't get stunned

Browning 15-Aug-19 01:41 PM

no its easy not to get stunned...

but its glitched

even when i don't get stunned it doesn't appear

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:41 PM

Can you send a video of this? Cause as I said, I've only had this reported once and it was a very specific set of circumstances.

Ideally I would also appreciate that video linked to a full bug report on the github

Browning 15-Aug-19 01:42 PM

i will try

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:42 PM

(The launcher has a link to our issue tracker in the sidebar)

ShadowDraikana 15-Aug-19 01:46 PM

I've had this issue crop up with the rocks but I thought it was a me thing

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:46 PM

Apparently not

But it is not common

ShadowDraikana 15-Aug-19 01:46 PM

I think I have an idea for reproducing it

right before he performs his stomp, kick a boulder into the air maybe even away from him.

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:47 PM

Never thought I'd say this, but I REALLY hope this is a movelist issue.

ShadowDraikana 15-Aug-19 01:47 PM

how the fuck would this be a movelist issue

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:47 PM

Because the alternative is far worse to deal with.

Also

The last report mentioned it only happens when he side rolls and gets stunned

(Pohatu)

Not a regular jump

ShadowDraikana 15-Aug-19 01:48 PM

I've had it happen for me regardless

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 01:48 PM

ShadowDraikana 15-Aug-19 01:48 PM

Hell I've NEVER side rolled when it's happened

much confuse

Browning 15-Aug-19 01:50 PM

Ok i didn't do any moveset before it happened. it just happened when i got stunned

got video will upload in a sec

ShadowDraikana 15-Aug-19 01:52 PM

Try kicking a boulder away from him just before you get stunned and see if the boulder stops in mid-air once you enter a stunned state (edited)

Browning 15-Aug-19 02:02 PM

Am uploading the video then will submit

I haven't tried that yet, but I don't think its a problem.

just checked, not an issue

ShadowDraikana 15-Aug-19 02:29 PM

wat

Browning 15-Aug-19 02:32 PM

Published on issue tracker with video

V A H K I T I 15-Aug-19 02:38 PM

Hmm well I noticed one thing in the second half of your videos.

You were able to interrupt his stun attack animation by already having another boulder on its way by the time you were stunned

Swade9wade 15-Aug-19 03:15 PM

So I drop the save file here right?

sweg (Andrew) 15-Aug-19 03:17 PM

yes

Swade9wade 15-Aug-19 03:19 PM

I believe this was the save file that got messed up.

Attachment: player1.sav (5.95 KB)

ゴ Tracyn Senar ゴ 15-Aug-19 04:23 PM

wait

you can dive-roll?

how?

TheRealGenm 15-Aug-19 08:10 PM

so i got a similar issue in Po-Koro that I had in Onu-Koro. Dunno if it's been reported yet, but you can get the quest reward for getting the hammer without actually getting the hammer. mind you, this is after i made it to the Po-Kini

darktvorog 16-Aug-19 07:04 AM

when i try to play rebuilt version of the game and open it without test menu the program stops responding and just freezes

same result if i try to open front end from the test menu

everything else seems to be working, thanks for the game

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-Aug-19 08:03 AM

skip the fmvs

with escape

DIEGO 16-Aug-19 08:51 AM

Um Help? Every time I open the game this shows up and crashes right after (edited)

DIEGO 16-Aug-19 09:09 AM

So basically loading my save causes the crash (edited)

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 09:58 AM

yyyyyep I had a feeling this would be an issue in this room

I'll have a look at it today

DIEGO 16-Aug-19 11:05 AM

But I already finished this level and got Gali's Kaukau mask, arrived to the Temple, talked to Nokama, teleported back to Ga-Koro, gave the guy his disk, teleported back then I walked to a path to continue and the game crashed. When I reopened it this bug appeared. Reoped it 50 times with every offered resolution but nothing. Tried it with the "-nointro" but even with that the result was the same. Any recommendation?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 11:32 AM

You backtracked into the Kaukau room. Big no no.

DIEGO 16-Aug-19 01:22 PM

Am I stuck there now? How can it be fixed from my side?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 01:23 PM

you can edit your save to put you back in the shrine

DIEGO 16-Aug-19 01:24 PM

Ok. Where can I edit it?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 01:24 PM

just open it in notepad and change the <area> to shrn from mwat

the save is in the data folder

TheRealGenm 16-Aug-19 01:24 PM

in some cases you may need to run notepad as an administrator

DIEGO 16-Aug-19 01:25 PM

I am running the entire game as an administrator

TheRealGenm 16-Aug-19 01:25 PM

aight

ゴ Tracyn Senar ゴ 16-Aug-19 02:37 PM

wait

Is that a Kaukau room?

isn't it, by any chance, the same room I posted?

with a bunch of fish, right?

DIEGO 16-Aug-19 03:50 PM

It's the enter of the Kaukau room

Yes a bunch of fish and only by defeating them all, can get the Kaukau.

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 03:55 PM

Does this count as a bug? :V

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 03:59 PM

perhaps

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 04:04 PM

Is it normal for the foot articulations to be like this?

Btw, thanks you all guys for doing all this work ❤

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 04:07 PM

@Grampa Walker

the hell did you do to the legs

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 04:07 PM

That's not a him problem

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-Aug-19 04:07 PM

oh god that is cursed

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 04:07 PM

That's just this animation

It does that in vanilla too

It's just less noticeable there

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 04:07 PM

lovely

DIEGO 16-Aug-19 04:09 PM

Where can I find that notepad to fix my issue with the game? What's it called?

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 04:20 PM

I think I may have gotten the prize for finding the pick in Onu Koro without even finding it yet

I reloaded the save and now it is not happening

I have no idea why that might have happened

Welp, I spoke to all of the villagers and then I spoke to the miner again and it gave me the reward again

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 04:26 PM

hmmmmmmmm

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 04:26 PM

Basically if you speak to the othe villagers and then to the miner, it will reward you for finding the pick

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 04:26 PM

let me check something

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 04:27 PM

Btw, yes, I tried speaking to him again when he asked me to find his pick and he asked me again. I got the reward only after speaking to the other villagers

I am afraid I may have encountered another bug. I went back into Whenua's hut, then I exited and I talked to Onepu hoping to activate Onua's dance. He tells me to speak to all the dancers. I had done it. I did it again but one of them is not dancing anymore and just uses generic dialog.

tHIS GUY

*This guy

Triple 16-Aug-19 04:45 PM

I've been getting this error all day around the game

Now however I can't even open the game

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 04:48 PM

oh look, our old friend is back. model related crash. not sure why it happens but it shows up randomly

Triple 16-Aug-19 05:06 PM

This is new

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 05:06 PM

You're just too good at the game

Triple 16-Aug-19 05:06 PM

I was up to Gali and now it reset me back to the start of onua

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 05:08 PM

Save corruption.

Triple 16-Aug-19 05:11 PM

Is it possible to fix?

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 05:24 PM

Wrong geometry (?), but it's just a graphical error

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 05:27 PM

I'll look into the conversation bugs later once I get this thing to work... I have a very good idea on what exactly is going on here

welp

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 05:30 PM

Nice

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 05:30 PM

do me a favor

try talking to the tree keeper and see if it happens after you talk to him

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 05:32 PM

Let me save the game and I'll do. luckily I'm keeping a lot of save backups. I'll temporarily restore the one in the village

Which keeper are you referring to exactly?

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 05:33 PM

aight

green and purple boi

in Onu-Koro

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 05:33 PM

Ok, I'll report back in 5-10 minutes

That's it

It was green and purple boi all along!

Damn him and his plots against the correct functioning of the game!

Do you need any other testing?

I fell in the rolling section, then I was spawned in the void (I could see the level, but it was relatively distant) and the game closed itself

It is similar to what happened back in beta (or maybe it was alpha?) when you tried to load Gali's level coming from Onua's

Btw, I fell 2 other times before and it spawned me correctly

ゴ Tracyn Senar ゴ 16-Aug-19 05:46 PM

It's the enter of the Kaukau room Yes a bunch of fish and only by defeating them all, can get the Kaukau.

Yeah, and my game keeps crashing there I don't know why

I didn't even get the kaukau yet

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 05:46 PM

do me a favor and check Po and Ko-Koros while you're at it to see if talking to other matoran trips the quest item rewards lie it did in Onu-Koro

@kopaka1996

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 05:48 PM

I'm currently playing the game regularly, I'll do it when I get to those levels, alright?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 05:48 PM

I'll just do it.

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 05:49 PM

Also, I fell in the hole of the rolling section and I'm stuck there, without dying

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 05:51 PM

Happens to hammer boi in Po-Koro.

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 05:53 PM

welp

add this to the hotfix update

I'll have a look later and see if I can find why his flag is setting this off

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 05:54 PM

if it happens in Ga-Koro it's the gate stone, which is irrelevant since you can't get to the keeper before that

Happens with element boi in Ko-Koro

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 05:57 PM

yyyep

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 05:58 PM

Spider boi in Le-Koro

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 05:59 PM

welp looks like i'll be digging into this again later

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:00 PM

Lever boi in Ta-Koro, though again you can't get to the tree before doing the bridge quest

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 06:01 PM

keep your eyes open for other matoran that set off the conditions as well

i gotta run for now but i'll be back later

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:01 PM

~~but I'm already back into .hack~~

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 06:02 PM

~~kek~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:02 PM

~~what's so funny~~

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:06 PM

Random crash attacking an enemy

I think it might have been the last enemy of the room

Same room, crashed when opening menu

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 06:10 PM

oh for fuck

attack spheres

hello darkness our old friend

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:11 PM

Crashed again when killing last enemy

Crashed when exiting the room damnit

Any tips on how to complete the room without making the game explode?

What the hell, now even the main menu crashed?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:14 PM

sounds like the same issue I had

it's a save corruption that causes the save select menu to crash

for no discernable reason

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:15 PM

Yep, I ficured it would be the case

I'm restoring the old save then

Yup, I'm not able to exit the room without a crash

I dunno if it might be usefult, but I have a save file just before and just after it got corrupted

Attachment: player1_CORRUPTED.sav (6.25 KB)

Attachment: player1_OK.sav (6.12 KB)

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:26 PM

I've tried messing with the corrupted file replacing stuff to make it more similar to the uncorrupted one, I'm just trying semi-random things

The thing that really confuses me in the file is the <legacyconditionals> field, what is it?

Ok, looking at the fields in binary they differ of just one bit, so I'm guessing they're some sort of flags.

GOT IT

It's the tokens!

Removing the tokens relative to that room from the .sav, it won't crash in the main menu

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:31 PM

...question

What number of tokens did you have

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:32 PM

Now it loads perfectly fine

Without those from that room I have 100 tokens. It may be that having over 100 crashes the game?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:33 PM

HMM.

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:33 PM

In that case, I'm suggesting removing some from the rolling section, because the're painfully hard to get anyways

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:33 PM

I'm getting the impression that Saffire never intended for >100 tokens in any level

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:34 PM

And I'm getting the impression you didn't even think that anyone would go as far as collecting all the tokens you put in the levels hahaha

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:34 PM

Us? We didn't think it'd be an issue.

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:35 PM

I tried removing 4 other tokens to see if it was related to those in the room and it still works. Therefore I guess it is the number of tokens

Btw, I was just kidding

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 06:36 PM

Well there's a super easy way to test that Reese.

Test level, sit inside the token fountain for a hot minute.

If that doesn't do it then it may be a save file size limit

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:37 PM

~~Dunno if you heard but I'm mid-.hack rn~~

~~and i can get to it in a minute~~

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 06:37 PM

Cause otherwise each token you pick up gets an individual entry in the save.

The game may not like having to sift through over 100 lines

In which case we may need @benji to rewrite how the game reads and stores tokens

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:38 PM

Or

Just not have any level with 100+ tokens

Swade9wade 16-Aug-19 06:38 PM

100 tokens? Yeah that was my number too before my save started to crash along with the menu crash.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 06:38 PM

I wouldn't call that a solution really. Expecially once we start making new areas.

The fact of the matter is the way the game saves tokens is really inefficient, but I can't think of any other way to rewrite it at the moment.

<tokens> <token id="et11" area="bech" /> <token id="et12" area="bech" /> <token id="et13" area="bech" /> <token id="et14" area="bech" /> <token id="et10" area="bech" /> <token id="et16" area="bech" /> <token id="et17" area="bech" /> <token id="et15" area="bech" /> <token id="etv0" area="vllg" /> <token id="etv1" area="vllg" /> <token id="etv2" area="vllg" /> <token id="etv3" area="vllg" /> <token id="etv6" area="vllg" /> <token id="etv7" area="vllg" /> <token id="etv4" area="vllg" /> <token id="etv5" area="vllg" /> <token id="et00" area="l1a1" /> <token id="et02" area="l1a1" /> <token id="et01" area="l1a1" /> <token id="et03" area="atrm" /> <token id="et04" area="atrm" /> <token id="et02" area="atrm" /> <token id="et01" area="atrm" /> <token id="et00" area="atrm" /> <token id="et01" area="pzzl" /> <token id="et03" area="pzzl" /> <token id="et02" area="pzzl" /> <token id="et05" area="clf1" /> <token id="et04" area="clf1" /> <token id="et03" area="clf1" /> <token id="et02" area="clf1" /> <token id="et01" area="clf1" /> <token id="et00" area="clf1" /> <token id="et16" area="clf2" /> <token id="et15" area="clf2" /> <token id="et13" area="clf2" /> <token id="et14" area="clf2" /> <token id="et12" area="clf2" /> <token id="et10" area="clf2" /> <token id="et09" area="clf2" /> <token id="et06" area="clf2" /> <token id="et07" area="clf2" /> <token id="et11" area="clf2" /> <token id="et08" area="clf2" /> <token id="et05" area="clf2" />...

And it goes on

It's also not as easy as saying "oh yeah just don't have more than 100 tokens per level"

Cause that's means we potentially have to rebalance every area with a token gate

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:43 PM

I don't know why I now have this shine stuck over the screen. Also battle music for Onua's Elemental is not playing

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 06:43 PM

Ie: If half of one level is blocked by a door requiring 70 tokens but there MUST be less than 30 on the other side (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:44 PM

Shine on screen is boss health, doesn't render properly in 16:9. Boss music is a known issue.

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:44 PM

Ok, thanks

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:45 PM

~~that's in the bug list but you're welcome~~

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:46 PM

Sorry, didn't know there was a public bug list. If you link it to me I'll be sure to check it before reporting anything

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:46 PM

It's in #lomn-info , but I'll post the link.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 06:46 PM

It's also in the launcher

Twice

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:46 PM

^

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues

TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

The Legend of Mata Nui Gameplay Issues. Contribute to TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues development by creating an account on GitHub.

It's also referenced in this channel's description

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 06:47 PM

Thanks, sorry guys

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 06:47 PM

It's fine, just be sure to check it before posting other issues in the future.

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 07:01 PM

Yup

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:01 PM

OK

so

If you have exactly 100 it's fine

but anything higher than that and it breaks --- adding a ping so @ShadowDraikana can read this when she gets back (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:02 PM

You tested in test?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:02 PM

yes

First time got 120 and tried warping out, crash

Second time just warped out without collecting anything, which was fine (was just making sure warping out of TEST worked at all)

Third time got exactly 100, warped out, no crash. Went to SHRN, collected one token, left the room, crash

so it's >100 tokens that makes the game die

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:04 PM

Hmm... I wish we could find out if it was the number or a save file size limit

Can you check what the crash exactly is in IDA if we don't know already?

I need to update my install since the last Win10 update

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:05 PM

The crash is waaay out of our league

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:05 PM

Wot

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:05 PM

it's 66 something something

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:06 PM

?????

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:06 PM

one of those extremely large number crashes

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:06 PM

???????????????????????

Doesn't seem that big to me.

Unless it differs for how it's triggered

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:07 PM

Huh. That's not what I got in SHRN.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:07 PM

You warped out, I died

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:08 PM

well to that point

while I did get a lower crash via triggering it in TEST

it's also not a consistent address anymore

Here's what I just got.

And this is what I got on my second try.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:10 PM

Wonderful

Hmm

I have a theory.

I don't think I really know what I'm talking about here but hear me out.

Memory overflow.

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:11 PM

and again my SHRN one earlier was 6 and then the other seven digits

same happened when I encountered this unwittingly waaay back and wasn't able to replicate it

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:11 PM

The game stores save data in ram before committing it to disk. What if in the allocated memory it physically can't hold that many token variables before it starts overwriting other data in ram?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:11 PM

address started with 5

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:11 PM

That would explain why the address is always changing

It's overwriting different data in ram depending on how many tokens you pick up.

It's like a miniature game of lose lose

Try this.

Collect EXACTLY 101 tokens and trigger the crash in the same way

See if it evens out

You can also try manually adding 101 token entries to the save just to double confirm the issue is not file related

For test that's easy since it just repeats the same entry

HMM

Right off the bat I can tell you the latter crashes

consistently with the same address on startup

er

loading the save rather

SPecifically that first one you posted actually

004DE336

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:16 PM

I've gotten the second one I posted a couple times along with a couple other random ones

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:18 PM

Well loading a file with <100 token entries gives me this one consistently without fail

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:18 PM

Less than 100?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:18 PM

Greater

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:18 PM

~~that's > ya mook~~

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:18 PM

~~Shoosh~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:18 PM

~~soup~~

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 07:19 PM

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V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:23 PM

I think I've confirmed that suspicion. Added 100 tokens to my save and went to L1A7

Collected one, left the room, this crash address on leaving and any subsequent reloads:

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:23 PM

ah, there's the 6 one.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:23 PM

Repeat, collected TWO tokens instead of one. Crash then became the 4 one and was also just as consistent.

I think I can safely say the same will happen if I collect 3 and so on

Indeed. Three tokens and it becomes this.

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:25 PM

that one i've gotten

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:25 PM

I'm convinced we're getting some kind of memory overflow heare.

And each subsequent token over the 100 limit collected is overwriting crucial data in ram.

@JrMasterModelBuilder Thoughts?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:26 PM

Could be a buffer overflow.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:26 PM

Same difference. xP

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:26 PM

Tokens are saved in the save file right?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:26 PM

Ye

BUT

Anything that goes to the save is first set in ram until you leave an area

Only then is it written to disk

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:27 PM

When does it crash?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:27 PM

As soon as you leave an area, or sometimes die.

Depending on the area, the game will try and write to disk on death too

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:27 PM

Those trigger save writes? (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:28 PM

Ye

Sometimes though like in the test area, it doesn't matter if you write to disk or not.

It'll still overflow there on death, and your save file will be untouched

HOWEVER (edited)

The test area also has a lot of WIP code and objects, so it's not the most foolproof area for testing this until I fix the cleanup on a couple of things

~~Shut up @ShadowDraikana, I know EXACTLY what you're going to say.~~

Anyways if it is a buffer overflow, do you think you could track it? Cause I'd not wish having to rebalance all the tokens in the game again on anyone just because of an arbitrary limit we didn't know about before.

Btw, this also triggers on loading, not just saving.

When it does write to disk, the save file causes a permanent crash loop

You can trigger it by just adding 100 token entries and collecting one in any area, then leaving, or adding 101+ to the save and loading it.

However because of the nature of the crash, the address changes depending on how many tokens you added over 100.

Which at least to the best of MY understanding, is going to make it an absolute cunt to track.

Nordii723 16-Aug-19 07:35 PM

My save file is not showing on the main menu all of a sudden. I've checked my files and my data is still there, but the main menu only shows new game options.

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:39 PM

Yeah, there's exactly 100 slots in the .bss segment for those tokens.

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:39 PM

well well

can we increase that without screwing things up?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:39 PM

Can there not

Can you make it 999 with an EXE mod?

Furthermore, I am now curious. You can access the game's various buffers that easily... how many slots does the sound buffer have?

@Nordii723 Send us your file and we'll have a look

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:41 PM

If you go over you run into the next things.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:42 PM

So this isn't just an arbitrary number, it's a preset space of writable data slots hard coded into the game?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:42 PM

Yeah, it's part of the .bss segment.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:42 PM

Absolutely fuckmothering magnificent.

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:42 PM

yaaaaay...

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:43 PM

Do you know where to look for the sound buffers?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:43 PM

I can tell you where it CRASHES on them

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 07:43 PM

0055ff98 is one

there's a second address but I can't recall it right now

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:44 PM

As for the tokens, I guess we'll need @benji for this one. Think it would be that time consuming to extend the token buffer with a hookmod?

Otherwise we pretty well have to rebalance the entire game to avoid going over 100

benji 16-Aug-19 07:44 PM

I'm thinking maybe the token naming could be an issue?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:45 PM

Nah, it's not just test

People have been coming in reporting this just from normal gameplay (edited)

Besides, JMMB just said there's a hard coded limit to the buffer

There are exactly 100 slots, and if you go over it, you start overwriting other data in ram

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:45 PM

The DX buffers are allocated dynamically.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:46 PM

Re: the sound buffers or this?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:47 PM

Sound buffers.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:48 PM

Hmm.. can you think of any possible scenarios for something like that overflowing?

Perhaps it's not being properly allocated for the data the game is trying to feed it?

What allocates the sound buffer and when?

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 07:52 PM

Have to look at it more.

Gotta finish a school project first.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 07:53 PM

Aight, well keep me posted. This has been a really long-standing issue, and if we can narrow it down finally that would be monumental.

At least in main, it's thus far the only unavoidable crash left in the game

That's not to say there aren't still A LOT of unresolved crashes, but this is the only one that can't be worked around in some way.

You WILL always encounter it, 100% of the time, no matter what you do on a regular playthrough.

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 07:57 PM

I'm on work break ATM, and I'm looking here seeing what I missed

I guess two bugs were found, tree boi screwing quests, and getting over 100 tokens crashing the game because of exe limit

and now the sound buffers crashes are being looked into again

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:01 PM

Hopefully for the last time

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 08:01 PM

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:09 PM

I've updated this user's report on the issue tracker and assigned JMMB and Benji to it. The issue seems to be the same. https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/259

Collecting more than 100 tokens causes a buffer overflow. · Issue...

Build: Rebuilt v1.0.0 Had finished all sidequests in Onu-Koro and had learnt the dance. After the 2nd chamber past the earthquake-symbol door (found in the giant shrine where Turaga Whenua resides)...

If it turns out to be a different issue I'll remove my addendum and just make a new one

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:12 PM

Dragon dont re surface after you hit him

Triple 16-Aug-19 08:12 PM

Once I beat Tahu's side of the Makuta level it spawned me back to Onua

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:13 PM

@Ballistic367 This is known, but we don't exactly know when or why it happens. It seems to be entirely random.

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:14 PM

I think i know the issue

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:14 PM

@Triple There is no "beating" his side of the level. There is nothing beyond it yet.

It will crash because there is nothing there.

Triple 16-Aug-19 08:14 PM

I see

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:14 PM

the dragon lays down so you can hit him however he doesnt have a platform to lay on, so he lays in the lava

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:14 PM

We're going to have it just roll credits in the next patch until we start work on Makuta

@Ballistic367 Ah right, that's when it happens. I guess I just forgot , aha.

I actually kind of want to experiment and see what happens there with the wireframe mode

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:15 PM

also ive noticed whenever i die in this battle the platform respawns broken, which leaves an exposed lava

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:15 PM

Does he just sit down there forever or fall out of the world

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:15 PM

yes

idk about falling through the world but his entity doesnt re surface

is the music tied to enemies being present?

if it is, the hostile upbeat music is still playing

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:17 PM

Huh

Well... this was an unexpected result

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:18 PM

looks like hes too scared to fight

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:18 PM

When he falls in the lava, he moves as if to go back to another spawning spot, but just... doesn't stop. O-o

He eventually just goes out of bounds and despawns

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:19 PM

could you place an enemy only collision box over the broken platforms?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:19 PM

That's not really the issue here.

He doesn't fall out of the world, he just doesn't stop moving and come back up when he's supposed to.

When he falls into the lava, something about his usual resurface function isn't being called.

Another one for you I guess @JrMasterModelBuilder

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:20 PM

reset his coords if he goes out of bounds

?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:21 PM

Again, it's not that easy. You're not really familiar with how this game works, so I can't expect you to understand that, but believe me, it's really overcomplicated

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:21 PM

or do a little hot patch if(dragon==fuckedUp){call function here}

sorry for trying to offer suggestions?

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 08:22 PM

Yo

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:22 PM

No I didn't mean it in a derogatory way, I'm just saying, there's a lot more to it than just stuffing it in a box or setting its coordinates back to 0. THat would go for any game really.

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 08:22 PM

I was alterted that 100 tokens breaks the save?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:22 PM

All that would accomplish is just locking it into ramming its face against an invisible wall, or teleporting back to center and moving off into the sunset again.

If it's caught in an endless loop, moving it around will solve nothing

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:24 PM

no its fine, this games old and you guys are trying to add/modify it. im just used to building things fro mthe ground up

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:24 PM

Yeah, and on top of that, we don't exactly have the source code, and the bosses are entirely hard coded.

Even the most innocuous of boss issues can be a nightmare here

THere's a reason the Vuravura still doesn't have sound

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:25 PM

whats this written in C?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:26 PM

I don't recall what it was written in. I think JMMB posted somewhere the various different languages ad libraries it seemed to use, but I'd have to track it down.

And yes @ShadowDraikana, over 100 tokens causes an infinite crash loop.

The token buffer is hardcoded to 100 slots.

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 08:26 PM

What in the fuq even

HARDCODED?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:27 PM

So we either need to have Benji extend it, or rebalance the whole game

DeviantXS 16-Aug-19 08:27 PM

Hahaha that explains my constant crashing.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:27 PM

@Ballistic367 (Shit like this is a prime example :P)

This should be simple to fix right?

DeviantXS 16-Aug-19 08:27 PM

My tokens are at 99

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:27 PM

Not so here

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:27 PM

this game was originally produced by Sapphire?

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:27 PM

Yes

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:27 PM

saffire

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 08:28 PM

@V A H K I T I how much exe research has been done so far on this

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:28 PM

Aside from JMMB confirming the buffer size and overflow? None

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 08:28 PM

Shit

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:29 PM

Saffire is no longer around, would it be possible to ask one of the old employees if it would be possible to grab the source code. since this is a non-profit game

idk just a shot in the dark

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:30 PM

It does not exist. Straight up.

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:30 PM

:0

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 08:30 PM

Or if it does, we haven't found someone who has it.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:30 PM

If it does, only LEGO is likely to have it

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 08:30 PM

I doubt that.

If someone has it, it's some random person from Saffire.

They wouldn't have given it to LEGO, and LEGO wouldn't have known what to do with it

Or some random person who bought Saffire equipment.

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:31 PM

Lego: idk just throw it on a usb drive and put it in a drawer

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:32 PM

Anyways @ShadowDraikana, basically JMMB, Reese, and I all confirmed it was a buffer overflow by slowly increasing the amount of tokens collected before triggering the crash. The address of this crash will vary depending on the amount of tokens over the limit that have been collected, as different things in RAM become overwritten the more token data you try to cram in there.

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 08:32 PM

Oh so sound buffer type issue

How about we increase the buffer size for sounds while were at it

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 08:34 PM

If I'm not mistaken, JrMaster said that sound buffers are allocated dynamiccally

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 08:35 PM

What the shit

Then how are they crashing

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:36 PM

Well my theory is that the buffer size is being improperly allocated.

Imagine the sound buffers are Kramer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQuuvtOuVLE

theEvermoreWalrus

Seinfeld - The Wait Out - Kramer Jeans Scenes

Kramer wearing jeans. The scenes are from episode "The Wait Out" off of Seinfeld's season 7.

JrMasterModelBuilder 16-Aug-19 08:39 PM

The DX buffers are allocated dynamically. IDK if there is another buffer which references them.

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 08:40 PM

Ok so how do we go about debuggin/fixing it

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:40 PM

~~Well right now they're painted on~~

kopaka1996 16-Aug-19 08:41 PM

I'd be curious to know more about how you're modifying an already compiled game. I will not ask you anything now though: I'm going to bed (and tomorrow I'll go on holiday :v ). Good night you all and good luck in your amazing work, bye!

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 08:41 PM

Night!

Ash 16-Aug-19 08:46 PM

So yeah its started crashing right before I went to fight the boss for Onua

I gave up and now it wont even let me load anything or start a new game

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 08:47 PM

did you have 100+ tokens?

because that will do that

(as we've found)

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:50 PM

fyi the cut scene after the dragon boss, the game crashes

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 08:50 PM

It's the FMV thing. We know

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:51 PM

sry idk if it was all cutscenes or just some

it sounds like a really cool cutscene tho, the sound is still playing

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 08:51 PM

If one FMV is having issues for you, 'ss gonna be all of them.

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:52 PM

is there a makuta boss after ta wahi, is is that what you guys are working on?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 08:52 PM

Makuta is not in the game.

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:52 PM

ah

is i guess ive finished whats currently in the re build

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 08:53 PM

The game currently ends at Tahu's section of the Makuta level.

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:54 PM

there was a onua level and a countdown timer after the cutscene ended, im assuming that doesnt do anything yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 08:54 PM

The countdown resets you to the start of the room if you take too long.

Happens in every section.

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:56 PM

does that level lead anywhere or is it just there because its there?

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 08:56 PM

There's a section for each Toa, ending at Tahu's.

They're clearly unfinished though, so don't expect much.

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 08:58 PM

i ended up jumping off the ledge on the Onua one and my game crashed, it brought me back to the Ta-Wahi boss battle, just wondering if i was missing anything

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 08:58 PM

Dying in that section causes crash

*a crash

Ballistic367 16-Aug-19 09:00 PM

welp i guess ive completed whats currently important in the game then XD

Ash 16-Aug-19 09:16 PM

I didnt get close to that

Nordii723 16-Aug-19 10:02 PM

My save file is not showing up in the main menu (says new game). Can you see anything wrong with the file?

Attachment: player1.sav (2.29 KB)

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-19 10:09 PM

@ShadowDraikana can you have a look at this?

I tried and can't see anything wrong with it

benji 16-Aug-19 10:11 PM

I'll take a look myself

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 10:11 PM

I cant cuz fone

benji 16-Aug-19 10:15 PM

shows up for me just fine

make sure your save files aren't being virtualized (one sec while I look up the docs)

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20150902-00/?p=91681

I saved some files into the Program Files directory, and now they'...

They got virtualized.

You problem could be the opposite of that linked page

instead of saving files and not being able to see them, you might have saved a virtualized player1.sav, pasted in the player1.sav file you uploaded, and so now when the game loads player1.sav, it loads the virtualized copy

other than that I don't know what to say, it loads fine into the main menu and I am able to play from it

granted, I am halfway through fixing the token crash

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:18 PM

unrelated to nordii's issue, but i'm back to playing rebuilt, on kopaka's slide level after getting the x-ray mask (BRD3)

there seems to be a very consistent crash in it when falling into the third crevace

possibly sound buffer related

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:19 PM

It's particle overload.

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:19 PM

gotcha

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:19 PM

That map likes to OOW death you.

Nordii723 16-Aug-19 10:20 PM

@benji Great. Want to get the tokens from that water slide for me? :) If this is the case, how might I fix it?

benji 16-Aug-19 10:23 PM

I'm not sure.

Assuming your goal is to resume playing according to the state in that file, you could try renaming it to player3.sav and seeing if it shows up in the 3rd slot

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:34 PM

currently on the first area after ko-wahi, and the first thing i see is a lone amana volo sphere sitting atop a still floating platform

which i guess isn't meant to be still

going to the next area, i see a simple wall blocking my path, needing use of the x-ray mask to look through

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:37 PM

Pardon?

To both of those

Pictures please

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:37 PM

oh, let me get a screen

(this is meant for a different bug i found, where kopaka's sword freeze bubble is summoned and stays in one spot for an infinite amount of time)

ShadowDraikana 16-Aug-19 10:39 PM

nani

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:39 PM

Ok, you said "first area after ko wahi"

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:39 PM

there's two entrances in ko-wahi

for whatever reason

the other goes to a copy of pohatu's boulder level

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:39 PM

This is still Ko-Wahi

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:40 PM

oh

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:40 PM

Ko-KINI

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:40 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:40 PM

Theres a door that's supposed to block entrance to PATH there

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:40 PM

oh

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:40 PM

Has never worked

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:40 PM

i see

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:41 PM

SNFL is the intended route.

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:41 PM

alright

i took the intended route through the not reskinned pohatu boulder level, and found the same door

which for some reason has clipping at a distance

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:43 PM

Screencap.

benji 16-Aug-19 10:43 PM

GitHub Issue.

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:43 PM

I wanted to clarify it first

Before declaring it known

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:45 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:46 PM

Known issue.

Quick note.

Check the github page for known issues. (edited)

sweg (Andrew) 16-Aug-19 10:46 PM

will do

other than that, the level seems to work well

other than the occasional particle overload as is known

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Aug-19 10:47 PM

I'm going to keep being a broken record until people stop reporting known bugs

ShadowDraikana 17-Aug-19 07:21 AM

Hopefully the hotfix will take care if some of this

Damara-Kun 17-Aug-19 03:16 PM

Are there supposed to be health and energy pick-ups in Ko-Kini?

DarkHenrik 17-Aug-19 03:19 PM

yeah, i have noticed a lack of those when unlocking the Matatu. It's hard to get past that part of the game as you will quickly run out of energy and will just have to die to get it back to try again.

Damara-Kun 17-Aug-19 03:22 PM

Alright, just wanted to check if this was a bug, the portal thankfully lets you get back to Ko-Koro and the Vuata Maca tree to recharge energy at least

Niick 17-Aug-19 03:40 PM

seems like my mouse won't move on the x axis

DIEGO 17-Aug-19 05:10 PM

So I killed all the Tarakava in the room at Gali's level but the door didn't open. I closed the game, reopened it and lead me back to the previous underwater level which I spent a hour in. What is the name of the Tarakava level? I suppose I need to change it in <position>

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Aug-19 05:10 PM

TAKV.

And that's <area>

DIEGO 17-Aug-19 05:10 PM

Thank you

DIEGO 17-Aug-19 05:23 PM

What's the name of Gali's the boss level?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Aug-19 05:23 PM

HYDR

DIEGO 17-Aug-19 05:24 PM

Thank you

(Team Kanohi) Jocool1231 17-Aug-19 07:43 PM

Don't know if this bug has been reported before, but I think I got the high score boys. (Rebuilt)

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Aug-19 07:44 PM

Has been reported. ~~A lot.~~ (edited)

Damara-Kun 17-Aug-19 11:08 PM

It looks like these weren't reported yet, but I found a few in Lewa's level. -The first one is a shadow floating above Le-Koro. -The second is that Lewa's elemental attack refills are appearing as Onua's, but not the icon in the corner. -Third and finally the Mahiki doesn't appear in the inventory, even when you have the Miru.

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Aug-19 11:09 PM

- Known. Shadows gather at the origin when there are a bunch of matoran - Known. Issue with how the game handles his energy pickups, copying Onua's instead of using something unique. - Known. Issue with how the game registers masks.

You are correct in that they've not been reported by someone else, and aren't on the GitHub page, so no harm there.

Damara-Kun 17-Aug-19 11:10 PM

Ah alright, I looked through the Github and couldn't find them

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Aug-19 11:10 PM

Good! ~~glad someone did that~~

Damara-Kun 17-Aug-19 11:10 PM

Thanks for the heads up! : )

Glad to be of service!

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Aug-19 11:11 PM

TheRealGenm 18-Aug-19 02:37 AM

pfft, the Shadow is obviously Makuta looming over the Matoran village (lore joke pls don't hurt me)

V A H K I T I 18-Aug-19 02:47 AM

:v

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 18-Aug-19 11:37 AM

Words cannot express how thankful I am for this bug reporting channel. I've done three runs of Onua's level so far that have prevented my save from being loadable, and needless to say editing my .sav to remove some tokens is a lot less demoralizing than going through a fourth time

2

benji 18-Aug-19 11:41 AM

A fix for the 100 token issue is done and will be included in the next update.

2

DIEGO 18-Aug-19 03:29 PM

Well it crashed before I could enter the boss area of Pohatu. What's the name of Pohatu's boss level?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 18-Aug-19 03:29 PM

BOSS

DIEGO 18-Aug-19 03:29 PM

Thank you

Bone 19-Aug-19 05:38 AM

Not sure if this is a bug or an oversight, but I got locked into the Onua maze section before I got the mask of night vision. This was in Beta btw, not sure if it applies to others. (Also, I think this next one has been reported, but the Gali crash after death bug is incredibly annoying) (edited)

DIEGO 19-Aug-19 04:29 PM

Ok I decided to close the game the proper way for once instead of shutting down and take a break. I was at Kopaka's part where he was about to obtain his Akaku. I reopened the game later and it shows "Player Completed 4294967290%" I click on it and it bricks me back to the very first level of Onua... How can I go back to Kopaka's level?

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 19-Aug-19 04:51 PM

@Bone same happened to me, if you're slick you can defeat the Nui Jaga through the bars and escape

DIEGO 19-Aug-19 04:59 PM

My save file has been corrupted by Pohatu's Boss, tho I beated it 3 times. Can I get back to Kopaka's level?

EvilJagaGenius 19-Aug-19 05:24 PM

This is my earliest Kopaka save, in the Akaku room

Attachment: player1_-_Copy_22.sav (4.44 KB)

@DIEGO

DIEGO 19-Aug-19 05:29 PM

Thank you. Do I have to replace my save with the new file or just paste the new codes into my save?

@EvilJagaGenius

EvilJagaGenius 19-Aug-19 05:32 PM

Can do either, I'd just rename that file 'player1.sav'

DIEGO 19-Aug-19 05:32 PM

Cool thx

sweg (Andrew) 19-Aug-19 08:49 PM

quick notification for all of you with save corruption bugs

i've found that it has a consistent cause by quitting the game normally, through pause, then through main menu

for now, to avoid getting a save reset (the more proper name for the glitch), simply quit the game via Alt+F4

Ballistic367 20-Aug-19 03:02 PM

@Niick if your mouse wont move on the main menu, hit the windows key, and drag the window all around your screen until the mouse frees up

N3oma 23-Aug-19 09:24 PM

has anyone gotten the bug of after gettin 14 tokens in ga koro the door wont open?

ShadowDraikana 23-Aug-19 09:51 PM

You need the mask of translation and the grappling hook to open the door

N3oma 23-Aug-19 09:51 PM

then where is the mask?

ive looked all over

ShadowDraikana 23-Aug-19 09:54 PM

have you explored all of the caves around the village?

N3oma 23-Aug-19 09:55 PM

i found my grapple hook and got the gear for nakura

the enginere

ShadowDraikana 23-Aug-19 09:55 PM

did you fully explore the room with the gear?

N3oma 23-Aug-19 09:56 PM

i belive so

is it in there?

ShadowDraikana 23-Aug-19 09:57 PM

yep

N3oma 23-Aug-19 09:57 PM

gdi

thanks

ShadowDraikana 23-Aug-19 09:57 PM

np

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 03:28 PM

How many tokens do I need to enter the Tahu Boss level?

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 03:28 PM

60

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 03:39 PM

I only have 52. Can I edit the amount in the save folder somewhere? (edited)

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 04:00 PM

youll have to use the debug menu tk give yourself the tokens

Open the ini file in the games folder and make sure the line Cheat=NoGreenCapes underneath the [Cheat] section of the file

Use delete to activate the menu in-game, home to select, and page up/down to scroll

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 04:20 PM

What is the exact name of Tahu's final level with the fire Dragon?

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 04:22 PM

Boss

Saffire wasnt too creative with the area name

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 04:23 PM

Not working

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 04:23 PM

Can you be more specific

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 04:24 PM

I straight fall into lava

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 04:24 PM

Which build of the game are you playing

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 04:24 PM

Rebuilt

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 04:25 PM

and youre warping into the room? aftdr loading the save?

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 04:27 PM

It looks like I am back in Ta-koro with floating ko-matorans. The animation looks really poor and as I step forward, I fall and the game crashes

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 04:29 PM

wat

are you selecting the level using the warp menu? because if so dont do that. were not sure why thats a bit broken. (edited)

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 04:31 PM

Yeah I see.

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 04:32 PM

...thats a bit weird

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 05:51 PM

How can I reach Makuta's level again? I finished with Tahu's.

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 05:59 PM

It should warp you right into it

And start you as Onua

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 06:00 PM

Yes but then it crashed

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 06:17 PM

As much as I love beating Tahu's Boss over and over again. Can It warp me straight into Makuta's level?

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 06:19 PM

Thats what it does? Can you post screenshots of what happens after Tahu receives the makoki stone

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 06:31 PM

I can't because after that, it plays the original video of the Toa arrivig on Kini-Nui, going down, forming Kaita, etc. It seems if I run out of time with 3 tries the game crashes. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 06:37 PM

So youre getting past the fmv to the playable part with Onua?

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 06:38 PM

Yes

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 06:39 PM

Thats the Makuta level. The warp into the level is working correctly. But if the timer hits 0 three times it crashes on you? (edited)

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 06:39 PM

After my 3rd try

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 06:40 PM

3rd try during the same run to be clear

or 3rd try of beating the boss then entering the level, etc

DIEGO 24-Aug-19 06:42 PM

Yes. Can It warp me to Makuta's level straight and not Tahu's boss over and over again after the crash? (edited)

ShadowDraikana 24-Aug-19 06:46 PM

You can try editing the save to start you in that level. The game has a problem with not saving a level transition. Why that happens we dont know.

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 02:25 AM

So I just finished onua's level and first met gali. After I get control of her, I enter the first cave I see and once I enter, the game crashes and every time I try to load in again, it keeps crashing

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 02:25 AM

I tried reloading the save over and over and it worked for me

I was in the same position

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 02:26 AM

A quick look at the game's github shows the reported error, if it will help any devs: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/265

Gail level crash upon entering entrance to next area after introdu...

Build Version: Rebuilt v1.0.0 After switching from Onua's level to Gail's, I went to the next area through the cave entrance when suddenly my game crashed. Attempting to continue by...

Ah, keep reloading the save?

Like revving a car engine, eh? xP

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 02:28 AM

I guess you could say that

2Tie 25-Aug-19 03:08 AM

while Nobua renders fine when just outside of Onu-Koro...

the top of his legs look incorrectly skinned in the starting cutscene

V A H K I T I 25-Aug-19 03:09 AM

It's not the skinning, it's the animation

2Tie 25-Aug-19 03:09 AM

ah, the bones are spun around then?

V A H K I T I 25-Aug-19 03:09 AM

It's like that in the alpha too, it's just not as noticeable with the old model

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 03:16 AM

I have not noticed it in my play through, tie

2Tie 25-Aug-19 04:59 AM

dying in onua's boss room after collecting the makoki stone causes the makoki jingle to loop endlessly and the boss to respawn (though the exit is left open)

a proposed fix would be to remove the boulder debris once the boss is defeated so Onua can no longer take damage from it (putting this here because i haven't poked around at the scripts yet)

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:03 AM

OK so I was playing the game along pohatu's section

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:04 AM

and?

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:04 AM

I am at the Kane ra race section and at some point I died and it then crashed on me

Now I am back in the gali problem, in which the moment I load the game, it crashes instantly

Exception: c0000005 Address: 0060860b

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:06 AM

send the save file pls

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:06 AM

What's the location of the save file?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:06 AM

it should be in the game's data folder

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:08 AM

Attachment: player1.sav (3.24 KB)

there you go @Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:09 AM

what even

isn't ston the makoki stone?

how did this happen

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:09 AM

...I...have no idea?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:10 AM

same

can confirm that it's the makoki stone for some gosh darned reason

@ShadowDraikana Paging you here since I'm lost

isolated cause of crash

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:12 AM

what seems to be the case?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:15 AM

Loading BLR1 or BLR2 crashes the game

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:16 AM

any potential fixes for that?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:16 AM

yeah

I can fix up your save file

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:16 AM

thanks a ton ondrik

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:17 AM

skipped the bullride area, removed the stone pickup

Attachment: player1.sav (3.21 KB)

Mr. Labo 25-Aug-19 08:17 AM

do I just overwrite my old save with the new one?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Aug-19 08:17 AM

yeah

ShadowDraikana 25-Aug-19 08:55 AM

@2Tie yeah no that area is hell to work with and some parts are hardcoded. Im planning on trying to clean the code up a bit but its a disaster

The boulder debris I can try to remove after hes dead though

2Tie 25-Aug-19 02:19 PM

untextured polys at the start of gali's level

UTTER_BODGE 25-Aug-19 02:29 PM

they're textured, that's just the lighting

it's a flat surface facing away from the light source

it's exactly the same shade as other unlit areas

just looks odd cause it's such a hard edge with an abrupt change

that area shouldn't be playable in main, unsure what the verdict is for rebuilt

it's only really meant to be seen from the cutscene

2Tie 25-Aug-19 02:38 PM

i see

there's another (uncollectable) gate stone behind a nest in the middle part of HK01, wasn't sure if it was just decoration or not since it's floating in the air (edited)

UTTER_BODGE 25-Aug-19 02:44 PM

fixed in main, no idea what the plan for that collectible is for rebuilt

since it was in the middle of being moved in the vanilla build

2Tie 25-Aug-19 02:45 PM

i see

UTTER_BODGE 25-Aug-19 02:45 PM

and exists in two locations

2Tie 25-Aug-19 02:45 PM

should i be playing/testing on main branch and not rebuilt?

UTTER_BODGE 25-Aug-19 02:46 PM

...not sure how to answer that if you're testing rebuilt test rebuilt, if you're testing main test main lol

2Tie 25-Aug-19 02:46 PM

alright

UTTER_BODGE 25-Aug-19 02:46 PM

they're different things

2Tie 25-Aug-19 03:08 PM

claw respawns after collection

ShadowDraikana 25-Aug-19 03:24 PM

that area I have not touched yet

guess i know where i'm starting on in gali's level

2Tie 25-Aug-19 03:37 PM

gear respawns too

ShadowDraikana 25-Aug-19 03:40 PM

fucc

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 08:11 AM

Just dided by drowning in Gali's village and the game closed itself without even an error message

Just closed itself in the middel of the animation that makes the screen go black

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:30 AM

I don't recall if I asked this here or in a different chat, but is there a way to reconfig the controls for the game?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:30 AM

no

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:31 AM

Not possible or too much hassle to do it?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:31 AM

not possible

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 08:31 AM

Heeey, I've got another bug (of which I have not found any mention in the bug list)

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:31 AM

Dang x)

Guess I am dislocating my fingers x)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:32 AM

I know that feeling

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 08:32 AM

Got this when using the Huna in this level Exception: c0000005 Address: 0051af6a

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:32 AM

known

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/116

Using the Huna in any area with a stationary character crashes the...

Upon further inspection the Huna causes a crash in an area with a character that is frozen in place by the osi. Unclear why this is as of yet.

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 08:33 AM

K, sorry for bothering then

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:33 AM

Spoiler alert, the Huna seems to be pretty broken in general, kopaka

Using it in boss fights crashes the game for me as well

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:33 AM

because the turaga there are stationary

it fucks with their AI

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:34 AM

Even before they load?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:34 AM

and not in a good way

they are still there

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 08:34 AM

Nice

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:34 AM

I only ever used the huna while the bosses were there, before the turaga were loaded in

And it always crashed even without them

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:35 AM

yeah

they are still in the map, but either invisible or out of bounds

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:35 AM

I guess that explains why the huna also crashed on the nui temples of each koro

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:35 AM

yes

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:35 AM

Stationary turaga

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:36 AM

correct

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 08:36 AM

Vakama be like "I beat makuta with this dang mask, y'all plebs don't deserve to use it in our presence"

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 08:37 AM

lel

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 08:37 AM

lol

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 08:41 AM

What about the carsh when drowning? It happened to me again, this time with exception c0000005 and address 5a763ab2 . Is it known? I have tried searching for "death", "dying", "drown" and "drowning" and have not found it

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 09:20 AM

After destroying the hives, and collecting the gear and the rau in MTOP the game lets me swim here, which I suspect is unintended

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 09:56 AM

I am currently in MWAT and I am not able to get to the exit. It seems like there is an invisible wall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XjolCH3dCg&feature=youtu.be&t=2100 Like here

VoidSlicerLP

Bionicle The Legend of Mata Nui REBUILT Gali Level (GERMAN/DEUTSCH)

Like the video, I eventually managed to get out, but it's quite difficult

ShadowDraikana 26-Aug-19 10:21 AM

Yeah MWAT is a shit to get out of

passage needs to be changed to make it easier to get out

As far as the area code

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 10:22 AM

Sup

ShadowDraikana 26-Aug-19 10:22 AM

Fixed and included in upcoklming patch :)

Sup Ondrik

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 10:22 AM

not much

I just thought that maybe we could remap the horns for Rebuilt aswell

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 10:23 AM

I think the switch at the wnd of this corridor was already pressed when I got there, though it didn't cause me any problem in progressing to the next area

*at the end

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Aug-19 10:23 AM

that's weird that it would already be pressed

ShadowDraikana 26-Aug-19 10:24 AM

Maybe we should try fixing the grapple now that sound buffers has been vanquished

I wonder if extending the grapple dist will work

Also how in the world was that button pressed O_o

V A H K I T I 26-Aug-19 10:26 AM

:v

:V

ShadowDraikana 26-Aug-19 10:26 AM

heh

seriously though, how about some grapple R&R

then again its fucked to hell and back so

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 10:48 AM

I am not 100% sure it was already pressed, but that area is quite frustrating and I didn't want to confirm it by replaying it.

But look here: https://youtu.be/0XjolCH3dCg?t=2629 It's pressed for him too

VoidSlicerLP

Bionicle The Legend of Mata Nui REBUILT Gali Level (GERMAN/DEUTSCH)

ShadowDraikana 26-Aug-19 10:51 AM

hmm

can anyone else confirm

sweg (Andrew) 26-Aug-19 11:19 AM

havent checked the vid yet

but is it the bug where one of the buttons look like theyre already pressed?

if so, I can confirm

ShadowDraikana 26-Aug-19 11:20 AM

whyyyy that makes zero sense

sweg (Andrew) 26-Aug-19 11:20 AM

pressing it clips it into the ground

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:20 AM

that's the one past the tunnel

sweg (Andrew) 26-Aug-19 11:20 AM

oh

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:21 AM

the one in the well is what I assume he's referring to based on the screenshot

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 11:21 AM

There is another button which clips in the floor, but it's not the one I'm referring to

sweg (Andrew) 26-Aug-19 11:27 AM

oh gotcha, i've only seen one of the false pressed buttons, never knew about the second

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 11:32 AM

Currently playing Pohatu

If I died after the Kne-Ra first cutscene played, when I respawned it was stationary. Is it just to make it easier to progress or is it a bug?

Everything else worked fine

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:35 AM

...as in it spawned not running and then reared up to run again, or...?

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 11:35 AM

It would just stay in place

I then restarted the game and restored a save before the custcene and the Kane-Ra moved normally. Then I managed to get to the kanohi of mind control without dying and all warked fine

*worked

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:37 AM

oh you mean that

Known bug.

ShadowDraikana 26-Aug-19 11:37 AM

It it an issue on Github yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:37 AM

dunno

might not be

ShadowDraikana 26-Aug-19 11:38 AM

Same issue may apply to the Tarakava

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:38 AM

*does

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 11:38 AM

I don't think it is on GitHub

These are the only open entries for Knae-Ra

*Kane

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:39 AM

Kane-Ra isn't the only one.

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 11:40 AM

Oh, well, then it may be there somewhere, I'll try searching for it

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:40 AM

it's not.

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 11:40 AM

k

Another thing: are these actually possible to collect?

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:41 AM

Nope!

Remnants of the alpha shrine that the devs never bothered removing. Not sure why there are tokens on that left one though...

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 11:42 AM

I was wondering about these things too, what the hell is up with that map mess? xP

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 11:42 AM

I tried to get to the tokens, but Pohatu would not ledge grab

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:44 AM

issue is up.

Mr. Labo 26-Aug-19 11:44 AM

It feels like these two places would have grapples in

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Aug-19 11:44 AM

Again, it's remnants of the alpha SHRN.

THey probably sealed both off without thinking about whether or not people would get back up without the old exits

kopaka1996 26-Aug-19 06:14 PM

Are bats supposed to fly away after the first hit? I think it may be part of this issue: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/41 Is it?

Some Rahi do not have complete or 100% functional AI · Issue #41 ...

This list includes the following: Hoi Turtle Nui Rama 2 Unknown Snake The following Rahi have some form of AI, but otherwise lack some or all collision, damage processing, or animations: Fikou Hoto...

Sammimack 27-Aug-19 04:55 AM

It keeps happening where, seemingly at random, my save file changes from the usual progress percentage to whatever this is. When I try to load it I'm back as Onua on the beach, meaning I'd have to replay everything. Any help?

kopaka1996 27-Aug-19 10:33 AM

Collecting more than 100 tokens causes the game to crash on loading the save, so i think it is another issue. It is a known bug though

sweg (Andrew) 27-Aug-19 10:38 AM

and it's fixed for the upcoming hotfix patch

kopaka1996 27-Aug-19 11:21 AM

Why is Onua looking away? O_o

Alligaytorrr 27-Aug-19 01:26 PM

Just experienced the same thing as @Sammimack

Any chance it's possible to edit my save file or get one that puts me back at Tahu's level?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Aug-19 01:27 PM

yeah

send me the save file

Alligaytorrr 27-Aug-19 01:29 PM

Attachment: player1.sav (3.81 KB)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Aug-19 01:31 PM

Attachment: player1.sav (3.81 KB)

Alligaytorrr 27-Aug-19 01:43 PM

Well I'm Tahu now, but I'm back at the start of Onua's level and unable to swap kanohi even though the inventory says I have them

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Aug-19 01:44 PM

open the save file, change the level variable to 6

and then change the area variable to whereever you were before

forgot about that

Alligaytorrr 27-Aug-19 01:47 PM

all set, thank you!

Alligaytorrr 27-Aug-19 02:38 PM

For the record it's a consistent problem if the game closes while in (seemingly only) ta-kini

Also is there a way to edit the save file to put tahu's glyph in my inventory? I picked it up but the boss door doesn't open

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Aug-19 02:40 PM

How many tokens do you have?

Alligaytorrr 27-Aug-19 02:41 PM

52

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 27-Aug-19 02:56 PM

you need 60

Alligaytorrr 27-Aug-19 03:03 PM

ah ok

Sammimack 28-Aug-19 07:31 AM

So wait what do I need to change in my save file to bring me back to Gali in the underwater area where you press all of the buttons?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Aug-19 07:32 AM

is your save corrupted?

if so, you need to change the level, area, character, health and energy

level to 2, character to gali, health and energy to 80, area to gly3

the health and energy increases by 20 per amana volo

kopaka1996 28-Aug-19 08:18 AM

https://youtu.be/2GDCALgRekU?t=459 I attempted the jump to get from the vine to the platform (see the video) several times and each time the game would kill me even though I was not falling. I assume it may be the same as this issue: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/112 Or this one: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/175 The thing that surprises me is that in the video it does not happen.

VoidSlicerLP

Bionicle The Legend of Mata Nui REBUILT Lewa Level (GERMAN/DEUTSCH)

Sometimes, jumping off of vines results in death · Issue #112 ·...

In Lewa's level (most apparent in le07), if you jump off a vine (or jump off a vine and instantly activate the Miru), Lewa dies. This might be a softlock, but I don't know.

Maps with bad killboxes · Issue #175 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-i...

This thread should be used to document any maps with improper killboxes (bad placement, lack thereof, etc). To start: Onua - L1A7, L1A8 (only when the village is saved, for some reason) Gali - WTHK...

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Aug-19 08:31 AM

Did you have the Kakama activated?

for some reason, it kills you if you switch animations iirc

kopaka1996 28-Aug-19 08:36 AM

Hmmm, I do not remember, it was yesterday

I can try again however

Btw, it was already reported that the Mahiki does not show up in the inventory after it is collected, but I do not find any entry in the github

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Aug-19 08:37 AM

That is known

kopaka1996 28-Aug-19 08:43 AM

Ok I tried warping to the vines level from the frontend and it worked fine. Maybe it really was the Kakama.

Mid Blue 28-Aug-19 08:48 AM

I'm experiencing this bug in Rebuilt: https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/212

The Taratoka-Nui occasionally disappears during the fight · Issue...

This is an issue regarding the beta. Sometimes, when you stun the Taratoka-Nui into a place where there isn't a platform, it will just completely disappear. The health bar is still there, b...

kopaka1996 28-Aug-19 09:33 AM

I think - but I may be mistaken - most bugs from beta carried over to rebuilt

Mid Blue 28-Aug-19 09:51 AM

And do you know how to fix them?

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-19 10:00 AM

That bug we have no idea on why it happens or how to fix it yet

The boss is exe hardcoded so its difficult to work with.

Mid Blue 28-Aug-19 11:43 AM

I see

Rexart35 28-Aug-19 02:55 PM

Tried to go to the link to install the game and I've came across this

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Aug-19 02:56 PM

just click the "Ok, and continue at your own risk to [link]"

Rexart35 28-Aug-19 02:56 PM

Not sure whether to risk it or not of if this is just security sake

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Aug-19 02:56 PM

bmp gets false flagged a lot

it's safe

angra_mainyu.dir 28-Aug-19 04:14 PM

So I got the onua beach glitch earlier, and I got to the cliff face. After that, I fired a grappling hook and jumped back, leading to a slow ascension and subsequent crash; known glitch?

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-19 04:15 PM

The second part with the grapple, yes. What do you mean by "Onua beach glitch?"

angra_mainyu.dir 28-Aug-19 04:18 PM

Absurdly high completion number, health and energy max levels are reset, and you start as Onua on the beach, yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-19 04:19 PM

So the save corruption bug, then.

Both known, then.

angra_mainyu.dir 28-Aug-19 04:20 PM

It corrupts your save? my progress was fine, I had defeated the rahi in onu-koro and gotten the invisibility mask

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-19 04:20 PM

Save corruption is a bug we're still looking into.

angra_mainyu.dir 28-Aug-19 04:22 PM

Alright, thank you! ~~also, where is the light mask, I can't find it anywhere~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-19 04:22 PM

The mask of night vision?

Back in the atrium area where Kapura is. You missed a cave entrance.

angra_mainyu.dir 28-Aug-19 04:23 PM

Ah, danke bitte!

Rexart35 29-Aug-19 11:04 AM

Can I have help please?

sweg (Andrew) 29-Aug-19 11:06 AM

what's the issue

Rexart35 29-Aug-19 01:19 PM

I've downloaded the nestle cereal CD what do I do next? I tried extracting the file and I've selected both setup and launch, I get pass the language selection and the nestle Bionicle starts installation before suddenly stopping

in other word, I don't how to launch the Binicle nestle cereal CD game thing

2Tie 29-Aug-19 01:32 PM

if you extracted it, you don't need to install it afaik

just run Bionicle.exe

for future reference though, these channels are for The Legend of Mata Nui and other litestone projects, which nestle bionicle doesn't fall under.

Rexart35 29-Aug-19 02:09 PM

Thanks

but I wasn't sure to get help for the nestle bionicle you see.

I thought this was the best channel for support

Nordii723 30-Aug-19 05:14 PM

The door for the fire elemental is locked for me. I have collected both masks and the glyph as usual, but the door with the elemental symbol is not going away, even after a restart. The only related bug on the site (see? I read it) mentions tokens, but I haven't had them be an issue before. Is there something wrong with my save or are my 50 tokens not enough?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Aug-19 05:15 PM

you need 60 tokens

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 01-Sep-19 03:42 AM

try to activate the kakama before swinging from it

warchlak 01-Sep-19 04:39 PM

Hi, have you found out how to avoid the bug in Lewa's level? I cannot pass the jumping on the vines - it kills me every time when I get to the platform. I tried wearing different masks, jumping at once, jumping after sliding down the vine, jumping from the branch, but it's like an invisible wall that kills me :(

Sammimack 03-Sep-19 07:28 AM

@warchlak Yeah, you gotta do it just at the right time with the Kakama activated. It's tricky, but once you get the hang of it vines are a breeze

[YT] €ΔǤŁ€ βỮƗŁĐ€Ř 03-Sep-19 08:07 PM

I couldn't find this on the known bugs list so sorry if you already are aware of this. When Whenua tells Onua the story of Mata Nui, the video freezes while the audio continues. Then the gameplay returns to normal once that cutscene is over and the new one begins.

kopaka1996 04-Sep-19 06:12 PM

It is known to the devs, but I do not know if it is reported I have found this, but I am not sure it refers to the same thing

Forgot the link :v https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/50

FMVs are screwed up in the latest patch · Issue #50 · TheLegendO...

Since v0.002, seemingly as a direct result of graphical upscaling, all FMVs render incorrectly, and sometimes result in a crash if left to play.

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:18 PM

Is this where I go to ask for help when running The Legend of Mata Nui?

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:26 PM

Sure. What's wrong?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:29 PM

Well, I've downloaded it from the Biomedia project, and I'm able to install it. But when I try to run it, it just crashes.

Am I doing something wrong?

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:29 PM

Are you running it in XP compatibility mode?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:29 PM

No, I'm using Windows 10.

How do I run it in XP compatibility mode?

Is it something I have to select when installing it?

benji 08-Sep-19 06:30 PM

It's something you can set for the game, not the launcher.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:30 PM

Right-click on the EXE file, and select Properties. From there, there's a compatibility tab, where you can set the compatibility mode

benji 08-Sep-19 06:31 PM

Are you having issues with the launcher or the original game files?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:31 PM

Hold on, I gotta reinstall it first.

(But do I click "Setup", or "autoplay" for it?)

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:31 PM

...?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:31 PM

When installing it, do I click on "autoplay" or "Setup"?)

benji 08-Sep-19 06:31 PM

Did you download the launcher or the installer for the original build?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:32 PM

I've downloaded the one from the "Final Build" (where it says "October 2011", I think).

benji 08-Sep-19 06:33 PM

That's the game as we originally found it

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:33 PM

yep that's the game only

benji 08-Sep-19 06:34 PM

It crashes - that's what we've been working on fixing. You probably want to download the launcher so you can play the game with all our fixes.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:34 PM

gonna need the actual launcher here

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:34 PM

I've tried that, but my antivirus always blocks it, as it says it's a "potential threat."

benji 08-Sep-19 06:35 PM

Well, that's something you need to overcome on your end (edited)

If it's SmartScreen, click More Info and then click Run Anyway or whatever

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:36 PM

I don't think it's "Smart Screen", in this case. It's Avast Antivirus.

benji 08-Sep-19 06:37 PM

Well you're going to need to convince it to let you install the launcher. You won't get very far with the original game files, as you've noticed

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:39 PM

Okay; I'm wondering how I can do that.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:40 PM

Mind showing what it throws at you?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:40 PM

Actually, I'm turning off my "Web Shield" for a few minutes while it downloads; I think that should do it.

And actually, it is; I'm able to download it without any warning messages popping up.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:40 PM

Good!

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:42 PM

Well, I'm able to run the installer so far.

Okay, I've successfully installed it; but when I select "Play BIONICLE Rebuilt", it won't open, as it says "it wasn't found."

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:45 PM

So it's asking if you have it installed?

The launcher installer only installs the launcher, not the game itself. You need to install it from the launcher.

Essentially, if it asks you if it's installed or not, you click "no" and it'll install it for you.

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:46 PM

Oh, okay.

Thanks for your help; I really do appreciate it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:46 PM

No problem.

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:47 PM

Now I can livestream it, no problem!

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:47 PM

benji 08-Sep-19 06:47 PM

there's still plenty of bugs that have yet to be fixed, so you won't be able to play through the whole game without cheats, fyi

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:48 PM

Well

Technically, yeah. Was about to correct, but then I remembered I'm dumb :v

~~hotfix can't come soon enough amirite~~

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:49 PM

Oh.

So there's still some more to fix?

1

And I just got an error saying that my operating system is not supported.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 06:49 PM

Plenty. This game doesn't like people trying to fix it

benji 08-Sep-19 06:50 PM

what operating system?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:50 PM

Windows 10.

benji 08-Sep-19 06:50 PM

and could you post a screenshot of the message?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:50 PM

But I could've sworn I've switched it to "Compatibility Mode".

benji 08-Sep-19 06:50 PM

try without compatability mode

I don't believe I've ever played with compatibility mode since we started patching it

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 06:55 PM

Here's the error message.

I just unchecked "Compatibility Mode", and now I'm in the Setup Wizard this time.

How about that!

Well, I know I've installed it, so now what?

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 07:01 PM

If you click on "Play BIONICLE Rebuilt," what happens?

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 07:02 PM

"Could not find game. Is it downloaded?"

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 07:02 PM

Click "Yes" and direct it to the game's EXE

(IIRC it downloads into LEGO Bionicle (Rebuilt))

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 07:04 PM

Is this it? (I've highlighed both the computer path, and the application itself.)

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 07:04 PM

That'd be the one

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 07:05 PM

It works!

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 07:05 PM

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 07:06 PM

Now I just gotta figure out how to play it in a minimized window (as in where I can switch between screens as I'm livestreaming), and I'm in the clear!

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 08:06 PM

Is there any way to make the game fullscreen?

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 08:10 PM

Alt+Enter

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 08:19 PM

Okay, I'll try it.

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 08:37 PM

Well, I did it; but I'm trying to do it as a livestream, all while being able to see the transparent Twitch Chat overlay. (The overlay doesn't work for games in fullscreen.)

Is there any way to manually resize the game screen's measurements?

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 08:37 PM

There are resolution options on the Launcher

benji 08-Sep-19 08:38 PM

however, resolution and screen size are known to be finnicky (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 08:39 PM

For the record, FMVs can be very finicky, so if they seemingly stop working but the music/sound effects keep going, you don't have to close the game

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 08:40 PM

Oh. Thanks for telling me.

I think I got it now.

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-Sep-19 08:40 PM

Oddly enough, OBS picks up the FMV uninterrupted as well even if you see it frozen

(if you're using window/game capture)

benji 08-Sep-19 08:40 PM

if they are still weird in Beta Rebuilt, let me know, I rewrote most of the FMV code

V A H K I T I 08-Sep-19 09:22 PM

@The-Psychid There seems to be a degree of confusion regarding exactly what needs to be run in compatibility mode. The launcher is not what needs to be run this way, rather the game itself.

This will fix the frozen FMVs issue.

We're still not certain why this is an issue to begin with. Especially after @benji redid the entire function.

For the record btw Benji, BetterBik was ported to main, and I would eventually like to see an alpha version as well.

The-Psychid 08-Sep-19 09:26 PM

Well, I'm able to play it how I want it to play now (as far as the preferred screen size is concerned), so I think I'm good for now.

Still, thank you very much for both your assistance and your patience. I really do appreciate it.

Toa Tahu Nuva 10-Sep-19 12:09 AM

Had any of your games crashed lately? Mine did.

ShadowDraikana 10-Sep-19 12:18 AM

What were you doing when it happened? What was the address? Saying "my game crashed" tells us nothing and we cant try fixing the problem if we dont know what was going on when it happened.

Toa Tahu Nuva 10-Sep-19 03:13 PM

Sometimes when I about to load my game, the save percentage is in random numbers.

2Tie 10-Sep-19 04:14 PM

that can happen when you delete a save or when you collect more tokens than the original game could handle iirc

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Sep-19 04:14 PM

extreme percentage isn't the token thing

that's a save corruption bug we can't really pin down atm

sweg (Andrew) 10-Sep-19 04:15 PM

it's caused by quitting the game normally

Toa Tahu Nuva 10-Sep-19 04:22 PM

Did any of you experienced that?

2Tie 10-Sep-19 04:24 PM

quite often

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:02 PM

I'm at Kopaka's game at the Makuta Level. I know I have to shoot the purple targets in order to get the round rock around the long statue, to stand on and where is the last purple target. First Time I ran out of time, to reach the "exit" but now the last target isn't there, and therefore I can't get to the "exit". I tried to close and reopen the game but it is still not appearing. Any suggestion?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Sep-19 02:08 PM

what do you mean, the exit is not appearing?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:09 PM

do you mean the shooting targets?

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:09 PM

This

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:17 PM

Nvm found it

Now I just have to figure out how to shoot it while falling.

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:42 PM

Okay what the actual heck. I finished Makuta's level and the game crashed. Now I'm back at Onua's level AS TAHU

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:42 PM

Yes.

Makuta's level was never finished, so leaving TAHU does that.

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:44 PM

Oh so there is no way to finish it correctly, nor can I replay the level properly.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:45 PM

I mean

you finished the game in its current state

You can technically still go through ONUA as Tahu since you should have the hook

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:46 PM

Nope I can't

I don't have the hook apparently

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:46 PM

Huh.

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:47 PM

Nor the other masks

Only the Pakari

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:47 PM

Welp, congrats. You beat the game (for now)!

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:47 PM

Yay!

Next update is on 20th September, Correct?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Sep-19 02:48 PM

Dunno

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:48 PM

Don't think we've said anything about that at all. (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Sep-19 02:48 PM

Wasn't it said that we're going for release on monday?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:48 PM

Just the normal Soon ™

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Sep-19 02:49 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:49 PM

Monday I do remember

No word from Gwen or benji today so far though

nothing with Makuta in the hotfix though

DIEGO 13-Sep-19 02:53 PM

I mean adding the Celebration Scene after finishing Tahu's game at Makuta's level would do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6qwnEIx--g

The BIONICLE Animations Archive

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - Celebration (HD)

sweg (Andrew) 13-Sep-19 02:53 PM

that's what is planned

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 02:53 PM

Not super simple like that

afaik

sweg (Andrew) 13-Sep-19 02:54 PM

and yeah, not easy to add

benji 13-Sep-19 03:07 PM

No word from Gwen or benji today so far though

I don't think I'm blocking the release, am I?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-19 03:08 PM

no

just that's who Liam was addressing with that "gives you both more time" comment

apologies if that was confusing

Toa Tahu Nuva 14-Sep-19 02:20 AM

While I attempt to 100% my save file by starting a new game all over again, I press space to a Mata Nui stone sign and it freezes.

ScrapMetaru 14-Sep-19 04:34 PM

I don't know.

ShadowDraikana 16-Sep-19 12:31 AM

@ulvenAspiration Are you having this issue still with the launcher updates? https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues/issues/255

Launcher doesn't open. · Issue #255 · TheLegendOfMataNui/game-issues

So i downloaded the Launcher.exe and opened it, but the launcher never opens. i just click it, click allow on the caution text, and then nothing happens. I have no idea what's going on and ...

ulvenAspiration 17-Sep-19 12:45 AM

nope

not anymore

besides we've got reborn now so like

i can just get that version

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:12 AM

alrighty thanks

just wanted to make sure so i could close this issue

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:23 AM

can;t get the game working on windows 10 or either of my windows 98 machines

on the windows 10 it crashes on the lego intro vid

and on one of my 98s, it starts but the game is all white, and it freezes after doing anything

on the other 98, the game is all black and I can't see anything at all

here is what I get on win10

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:25 AM

the all black is a known issue. beta needs the patch in order to do anything with it. for win10 it sounds like the dgvoodoo config/resolution being a problem

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:25 AM

also my pc tells me allot of these downlaods are viruses, but I am hoping thats just because they are looking at hardware lol

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:25 AM

yeah those are false positives

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:25 AM

mmk

I will try the patch then thank you

on win98

the 10 is just fucked

with/without patch

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:27 AM

As far as I know the game shouldn't even be compatible with 98

Only xp+

I could be misremembering however

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:28 AM

hmm

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:29 AM

That reminds me. My friend Darryl is setting up a retro PC with a voodoo 3 card.

I'll have him test vanilla when he gets it

It's not the known compatible voodoo 2, but it's worth a try all the same

@ShadowDraikana

Dive 17-Sep-19 01:29 AM

So as far as the rebuild goes everything seems to be okay, but I still run into the issue of after talking to Whenua in the hut, once I leave there are no villagers to be found anywhere

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:29 AM

Actually I know a guy who has a legit voodoo 2 card

Dive 17-Sep-19 01:30 AM

the only villager I come across is in that other area by the village you get to by crossing the river

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:31 AM

you defeated all of the rahi and destroyed the hives in the village?

Dive 17-Sep-19 01:31 AM

..well shoot I uh, I'll go try that

onesec

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:35 AM

my 98 has a voodoo 3 card

and the alpha works on it

but after the second cutscene

it freezes

was neat while it was working though

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:36 AM

which cutscene are you referring to?

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:36 AM

where Onua meets the first matoran

on the beach

his voice is terrifying lol

pretty cool

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:36 AM

huh so it freezes once the cutscene ends?

Dive 17-Sep-19 01:37 AM

okay that did the trick

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:37 AM

no I walk a bit, and he picks up what look to be a map or something and then it freezes as he holds it up

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:37 AM

OH that happens even for me. Freezes for a few secondd then the game catches up.

im not sure why that one does that

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:38 AM

it was like that for a few mins I had to hard reset the PC

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:38 AM

da fuq

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:38 AM

I might just hook up the windows xp and try that if its made for that os

but my XP is super beefy

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:38 AM

Have you tested the beta on the Voodoo 3?

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:38 AM

its not really...xp status heh

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:39 AM

Also was your tested alpha unpatched?

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:39 AM

yes it was

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:39 AM

Huh

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:39 AM

i have not tried it on the voodoo with the patch

but it works patchless on my 98 with the fx 5200 gpu

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:39 AM

Well that confirms it's voodoo 3 compatible put of the box

Fascinating

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:39 AM

indeed

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:39 AM

Darvell wasn't wrong it seems

Try the beta if you can at your next possible convenience

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:40 AM

without the patch first

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:40 AM

I may need to invite you to the playtester group at this rate, aha

This is a very unique opportunity

Being able to cross reference the vanilla game functioning as intended out of the box

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:41 AM

please do

btw neither of the patches will start on the 98

says "unsupported os"

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:41 AM

You would be the first person here to ever successfully run the game at all unpatched

Yeah that's normal

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:41 AM

wow thats neat haha (edited)

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:41 AM

The game doesn't normally support 98. Or at least I didn't think it did

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:42 AM

have you guys ever considered remaking this game in a different engine?

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:42 AM

It did support 98 iirc

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:42 AM

I'll just remove the os checks for the next patches then

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:42 AM

cool

looking forward to that

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:42 AM

Except maybe for rebuilt. I'll just make a disclaimer for that

Cause we have no notions of supporting anything older than windows 7 for that

So far it does somehow still work on xP, but it's not something we're trying to do.

It just sorta happened. Even benji doesn't know why since he never coded anything for any os older than 7

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:44 AM

I can't get the rebuild to work on my windows 10

btw since you are here I want to ask you something

if you don't mind

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:44 AM

Shoot

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:45 AM

its been about 10 years since i looked into this game at all, and back then I was hearing about rumors that 3 of the whatever amount of original can disc's that came with the 1st gen bionicles, had this alpha on it

is that true?

or is that bs lol

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:45 AM

It is false

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:46 AM

damnnnn haha

I have been collecting them ever since for nothing hahaha

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:46 AM

Nothing was ever released outside of SAFFIRE or lego

The reported beta test never even happened

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:46 AM

I have 3 now

wow thats crazy

I am gonna try the alpha on the voodoo now

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:46 AM

You can watch Liam Robertson's video on the matter for a deep dive into the games true history (edited)

The beta you mean? :P

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:47 AM

yeah will check it out thank you

no my bad the beta is what I tried first on the voodoo

which was black

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:47 AM

fucc

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:47 AM

and white on the 5200 98

I have not tried the alpha on voodoo

alpha runs best on 5200

until it froze where he got the map

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:48 AM

Huh. What make is this 5200 card? Neither the alpha nor beta are known to function by default outside the Voodoo line

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:49 AM

its a geforce FX 5200

128mb

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:49 AM

Interesting. The alpha works on it but the beta does not?

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:49 AM

all the intro cutscenes work lovely too btw

yes

beta is all white and freezes sooner

while in menu tbh

since the menu for beta is dynamic

it freezes there

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:50 AM

Ah but it does load somewhat?

Rather than just immediately loading to a black or white screen?

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:53 AM

yeah

like you can see the graphics

but no textures

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:53 AM

Would you be avle to get a quick video clip?

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:53 AM

and just now, alpha on 5200 got past the map looking thing he picked up, then everything went white/no textures

sure, of what exactly?

This is what just happened now

Had to hit thebreset button again

Poor hdd on this thing heh

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 01:55 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:56 AM

You can probably still alt+tab out of it to save on restarts, no?

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:58 AM

nah, the cpu in this thing is an amd athlon 1st gen, they completely lock up when something goes wrong heh happens with other stuff too

like I was trying to run doom 3 on it the other day lmao

and then halo

halo ran, but crashed after a few mins

and I know its not messed up or anything, I recently re applied the thermal paste and dusted out the box

also performed various stress tests with games running at high hz and framerates

I can get q3 running at 120fps at 150hz

its awesome

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 01:59 AM

Neat.

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 01:59 AM

yeah

Dive 17-Sep-19 02:13 AM

okay you know what I do actually have a bug

if I access my inventory menu

nothing happens and my game kinda breaks

oh yea and if I force quit the game, all of my other windows are unresponsive so it's not until I restart explorer that it works

actually that second bit I had the voodoo config window open still so nvm that (edited)

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 02:17 AM

inventory does that sometimes. not known why

its weird

Dive 17-Sep-19 02:19 AM

works now but I don't see how to navigate it

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 02:20 AM

its just a display

Dive 17-Sep-19 02:20 AM

ah okay

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 02:25 AM

ran the launcher on the windows 10 with xp compatibility settings, then tried to download the rebuild, says my os is not supported

alpha works on windows 10 though when launched at 640x480

huh

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 02:52 AM

unpatched alpha does not run on the voodoo, crashes at menu

unpatched alpha runs on windows xp, all black in game

Dive 17-Sep-19 02:55 AM

neat

fought the nui jaga, got to the back of the room and upon exiting I get that

ah

same error loading the save

hmm

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 03:01 AM

are there save points, or can you save somehow?

Dive 17-Sep-19 03:02 AM

not sure where all the save points are and if I can go back a save

the save before was before the nui jaga fight

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 03:14 AM

seems to work best on windows 10 with the patched alpha from what I am experiencing

doesn't work on the windows xp at all

alpha that is

gonna try beta now

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 03:30 AM

unpatched says there is a missing file and unable to start

gonna try the patch

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 04:11 AM

didn't work

works best on windows 10

with allot of in game bugs lol

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 09:21 AM

@Dive first crash looks lime the sound buffers issue, which is fixed in the next patch. Second crash is known to show up in certain areas randomly. Its crashing on the model itself. Why that happens we dont know.

2Tie 17-Sep-19 09:56 AM

@Lord Reven the launcher shouldn't be ran in compatibility mode

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 02:01 PM

Ah

V A H K I T I 17-Sep-19 02:06 PM

What's going on here is a twofold unexpected issue.

One: People are misunderstanding exactly what needs compatibility mode and what doesn't.

Two: The launcher being run that way also runs the patches that way, which in turn currently have the OS checks.

Lord Reven 17-Sep-19 07:39 PM

oh damn okay I will try doing it without making the launcher use the settings next time

btw guys is there a spot here I can drop links to promote myself? twitch/yt yada yada

sweg (Andrew) 17-Sep-19 07:49 PM

something feels off about the camera angle in this final matau convo

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Sep-19 07:49 PM

Looks like you jumped pre-convo (or were just at a high elevation)

sweg (Andrew) 17-Sep-19 07:50 PM

i happened to have the miru on in the moment

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Sep-19 07:50 PM

I can clearly see you're in the air there so

sweg (Andrew) 17-Sep-19 07:51 PM

after the elemental's final roar, i didn't quite realize it was his last, and i got spooked by the thought of dying for the 40th time to it, so yeah

ShadowDraikana 17-Sep-19 08:09 PM

huh so force conversation literally forces it no matter what

i was looking at the base boss code for it earlier and

mud man and rock boi both have the completion tracks called in the exe but not used. they're rigged up in the osi

they set up a function with cases for each track it seems

sweg (Andrew) 17-Sep-19 11:03 PM

wierd

i triggered tahu's dancing cutscene before getting to find even one dancing ta-matoran

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Sep-19 11:05 PM

Exact repro method?

sweg (Andrew) 17-Sep-19 11:11 PM

i went into the village, cleared invasion, spoke to vakama, spoke to tree boi, and stepped into the takara

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Sep-19 11:11 PM

...

@V A H K I T I

I concede.

Somehow

That thing you got months ago that nobody could ever replicate?

It's a problem now.

Mata Nui is dead, and we killed him.

Tree keeper is unrelated btw, just Vakama triggers it.

sweg (Andrew) 17-Sep-19 11:13 PM

ohhh

interesting

tree boi 2: takaristic boogaloo

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Sep-19 11:13 PM

...okay...?

Point is.

Fuck this game.

I hate everything right now.

...It doesn't even trigger Jala's "go into the stage" text

how even

ShadowDraikana 18-Sep-19 12:23 AM

alright let me have a look at the flags

enough of this shit

ShadowDraikana 18-Sep-19 12:39 AM

yo i got news for you

theres no fucking way

vakamas flags dont get set elsewhere in the vllg conv slb so how it would conflict id sure like to know

ShadowDraikana 18-Sep-19 12:55 AM

mother fucker

i have one explanation

@benji i know you did this but... are you sure the game can differentiate between a gcsaver flag and a bettersaver flag? because i think thats whats happening here. vakamas bettersaver flags turns on certain bits that gcsaver considers for the cinema check. so it thinks theyre all on

Dive 18-Sep-19 07:00 PM

so I hopped in here again found the lost disc in the tunnels

funny thing is, when I got out the way I came the entry was closed

I had to kill the nui jaga again

luckily I could clip my shots through enough to kill it

ShadowDraikana 18-Sep-19 09:06 PM

this is going to be fixed in the next patch actually

Dive 18-Sep-19 10:06 PM

Ah neat

sweg (Andrew) 19-Sep-19 12:47 PM

I found a crash issue in one of tahu's levels that I didnt see reported in the github

using the akaku in the area after the first lava surfing sequence causes a crash

sweg (Andrew) 19-Sep-19 09:26 PM

now that i'm back home from school and work, i got the crash address, being 6200cd65

ShadowDraikana 19-Sep-19 09:28 PM

hmm

UTTER_BODGE 20-Sep-19 02:04 AM

playing through pohatu's level normally

get to end of gly3

about to pick up the glyph

decide to piss on a tree for the fun of it

game crashes

:||||

also when I first entered gly3 I was unable to activate any masks

but after dying or something I could again

???

didn't happen when I just warped into the area to catch up on my progress

UTTER_BODGE 20-Sep-19 02:52 AM

Attachment: 2019-09-19-2351-22.mp4 (864.61 KB)

sweg (Andrew) 20-Sep-19 06:48 PM

i got a crash when going into ta-koro, 776360f4

sweg (Andrew) 20-Sep-19 10:32 PM

neat

ShadowDraikana 20-Sep-19 10:33 PM

Nani

sweg (Andrew) 20-Sep-19 10:33 PM

make this tahu's cheat fart instead

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Sep-19 10:33 PM

Pretty sure that's happened before somewhere

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 10:49 AM

christ almighty, after i died because of the dragon softlock issue, the dragon was right inside the platform

ShadowDraikana 22-Sep-19 10:49 AM

wh

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 12:27 PM

another death fixed it

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 12:34 PM

wierd, the mouse is unusable when going into makuta's levels with the debug menu

nvm, apparently i have the issue for all the levels now

gonna guess that this is on my end, and see how i screwed my mouse up

ShadowDraikana 22-Sep-19 12:36 PM

is left and right movement still good?

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 12:36 PM

no

it's just completely locked

can't use energy attacks, can't look around

i don't know how this occurred at all

my assumption is that somehow finishing the game did it in for me

wth

copying and pasting the bionicle.ini from the other rebuilt install i had works as a fix (edited)

despite being little to no differences

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 10:02 PM

there seems to be a crash bug with gali's mtup

happens after the onua meets gali cutscene, and even occurs when loaded from the test menu (edited)

it yields two consistent addresses, 1001d6d3, and 004669b4

ShadowDraikana 22-Sep-19 10:03 PM

Both are common addresses

One is a dll issue the other is get leaf

Dll issue meaning its dying on loading te model

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:19 PM

i downloaded the latest rebuilt version with james' strt fixes and benji's bettersaver fix, and it no longer has the crash bug

so nvm the bug i reported

though i am still curious as to how my mouse in-game stopped functioning because of the ini

and how replacing it with one not very different fixed it

V A H K I T I 22-Sep-19 11:22 PM

Did you accidentally set control option to 2

?

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:22 PM

set the control option to 2?

does that mean trying to access the in-game controls

if so, yes

V A H K I T I 22-Sep-19 11:22 PM

In the INI

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:22 PM

i don't think i messed with that actually

V A H K I T I 22-Sep-19 11:23 PM

Setting that option to 2, or messing with it in frontend disables the mouse and instead maps movement to the arrow keys and numpad

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:23 PM

ah

that makes a lot more sense now, thanks

i also noticed a bit of an FPS drop in the main menu, with all 6 unlocked toa

2001 game limits i suppose

V A H K I T I 22-Sep-19 11:33 PM

@ShadowDraikana Did you notice any? This is important since it's the closest thing we have right now to testing the eventual performance of Makuta.

ShadowDraikana 22-Sep-19 11:42 PM

Yeah fps.bottomed for me

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:45 PM

why must you do this to me token door

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Sep-19 11:45 PM

...dude

Do you have the hook and Rau?

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:46 PM

oh right the rau

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Sep-19 11:46 PM

~~HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN~~ (edited)

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:46 PM

i keep forgetting the doors require more than tokens

the messages trip me up since it implies only the tokens are needed for the doors

ShadowDraikana 22-Sep-19 11:48 PM

Well theyre not

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:49 PM

i know that

i'm just saying that maybe the messages could be extended to include other parts

like for this one; "You need to collect 14 tokens, the grappling hook, and the Rau to open this door."

ShadowDraikana 22-Sep-19 11:50 PM

not possible without text wrapping

except unless we did it the clunky way

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:51 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Sep-19 11:51 PM

Also

We've talked about this before

ShadowDraikana 22-Sep-19 11:51 PM

You need to collect 14 tokens to open this door. You need to collect the Kanohi Rau to open this door. Etc.

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:52 PM

~~oh god i'm having a deja vu again~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Sep-19 11:52 PM

Clearly.

sweg (Andrew) 22-Sep-19 11:52 PM

now let me go to the shadow realm with my holy water grapple

Lord Reven 01-Oct-19 07:23 PM

is the gali part just totally broken or is there a fix? I have never figured out how to get her swim to work she just gets stuck in the water

was playing the ps2 game last night holy shit what a disappointment

the concept for the og game was so much more interesting

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Oct-19 07:26 PM

Double tap W on the surface of the water.

Lord Reven 01-Oct-19 07:26 PM

huh ok will try that

ty

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Oct-19 07:33 PM

np

A proper swimming tutorial is planned for the next major Rebuilt update (not the upcoming hotfix, but v1.1).

Lord Reven 01-Oct-19 07:34 PM

nice

good to hear

Dive 02-Oct-19 05:00 PM

?

just downloaded the latest beta patch

Toa Tahu Nuva 02-Oct-19 05:20 PM

I experienced that.

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:33 AM

@Dive ohai you follow me on twitter and mmmmay or may not know who I am there lol

but yeah that bug still happens a fair bit

does the save still function?

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:34 AM

I'll be honest, I didn't really do anything after that. lemme check if it loads heh

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:34 AM

if it's borked you should be able to pop it open in a text editor and tweak it

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:35 AM

hmmm

yea loaded me back on the beach

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:35 AM

where were you at?

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:36 AM

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh a few rooms after the nui jaga battle

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:37 AM

you can just change it to whichever area you like, try cave or shrn

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:39 AM

nice thanks!

don't think I follow you actually but we both know Floris haha (edited)

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:42 AM

mmmm it says you do haha

different username tho

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:43 AM

handle?

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:44 AM

Terrev

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:46 AM

Oh dang wow

small world huh

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:49 AM

this is the discord account for lego/some gamedev stuff

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:49 AM

aye

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:49 AM

gets too cluttered all on one

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:49 AM

I technically have two myself but one's like never used ever

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:50 AM

full context of this icon

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:51 AM

nice

UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:51 AM

which... still may not explain much lol

Dive 03-Oct-19 03:51 AM

my icon isn't normally inverted but I figured it's spooky enough for October

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UTTER_BODGE 03-Oct-19 03:51 AM

ooh

ShadowDraikana 03-Oct-19 03:53 AM

cute

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 03-Oct-19 10:27 AM

I'm love

AXEKILLER311 05-Oct-19 02:23 PM

in the bionicle remade game i keep getting a unandled exception bug that says c0000005 at address 0052e5d9, can anyone help me

ShadowDraikana 05-Oct-19 03:45 PM

when is this error happening

AXEKILLER311 05-Oct-19 03:49 PM

On the launcher screen with the game options

When i click the button to launch the recreated version

The screen goes white then the error appears

ShadowDraikana 05-Oct-19 04:26 PM

oh fuck

that's the error i get with dgvoodoo (edited)

welp

open up the control panel for dgvoodoo and go into the direct x tab. check the box disable and passthru to real dx

AXEKILLER311 05-Oct-19 10:50 PM

That did not fix it

ShadowDraikana 05-Oct-19 11:27 PM

@V A H K I T I ~~See someone else who has my exact problem~~

~~but it's just me~~

V A H K I T I 05-Oct-19 11:28 PM

Question @AXEKILLER311. When you installed the launcher, what was your process to install Rebuilt? I assume when it asked you if the game was downloaded you hit no, and then let the launcher download and install it?

AXEKILLER311 05-Oct-19 11:28 PM

Yeah i clicked that

V A H K I T I 05-Oct-19 11:29 PM

Alright, just making sure it's not the result of another common mistake people have reported.

AXEKILLER311 05-Oct-19 11:34 PM

Ok can someone like gimme a list of how to correctly install the game start to finish

ShadowDraikana 05-Oct-19 11:44 PM

try renaming or removing the ddraw.dll in the folder where rebuilt is installed

AXEKILLER311 05-Oct-19 11:45 PM

Theres 6 dll files

Just all of them?

ShadowDraikana 05-Oct-19 11:52 PM

no

ddraw dll specifically (edited)

AXEKILLER311 05-Oct-19 11:57 PM

Ok

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 12:07 AM

I deleted all the files ill try deleting ddraw then ill let you guys know

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 12:35 AM

Do i run it in windows xp service pack 3 or 2?

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 12:48 AM

Ok now it says the OS is not supported

This is windows 10

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:03 AM

@V A H K I T I this sounds a bit familiar

might want to remove that check in the launcher

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:13 AM

Now it wont let me delete the files

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:26 AM

@ShadowDraikana @V A H K I T I does this mean the game just needs a patch on my computer? Or is something else wrong

Cause i made sure the box was unchecked

The settings are on directx

The compatibility is on service pack 3

For xp

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:28 AM

did you try checking the box in the direct x tab to see if that worked? just making sure

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:28 AM

Yeah

I checked that too

It just thinks that my computer is not supporting the right os when its on xp

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:30 AM

im not entirely sure whats up here. Liam knows more about the unsupported os error than i do

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:30 AM

Dang that sucks

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:30 AM

wait so did you download the game without the patch

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:31 AM

No i downloaded it directly

Can you guys just try and patch up the launcher if possible? (edited)

It might be something wrong with the launcher

Mabye someone can send the rebuilt file?

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:35 AM

ok so you have the launcher. you've installed rebuilt. and you're getting this error

when you tried running in compatibility mode it threw that unsupported error?

question

are you trying to run the launcher in compat mode or the game itself

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:36 AM

Actually its when i try to install rebuilt it says os not supportef

And im trying to run it in compat mode

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:36 AM

dont run the launcher in compatibility mode

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:36 AM

Ok

I have to delete all files again it wont let me choose to uncheck compatibility

@ShadowDraikana ok so do i make sure compatibility mode is not checked?

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:42 AM

send screenshot please

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:43 AM

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:43 AM

ok do not run that in compatibility mode

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:44 AM

@ShadowDraikana ok its opened what now?

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:45 AM

rebuilt is downloaded, correct

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:45 AM

No

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:46 AM

did you remove the game entirely?

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:46 AM

Yes

So i now have the menu opened

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:46 AM

try playing rebuilt again. it should ask to download the game and the patch

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:46 AM

Ok

If it dosesnt ask to download a patch, what do i do?

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:48 AM

you can get it manually from the site

wait

Liam never updated that probably

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:49 AM

Does he need to do it for this to work?

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:50 AM

not for this currently if it does install the patch

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:50 AM

Ok

What is the patch file on the website? (edited)

Thered a few files

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 01:51 AM

@V A H K I T I obligatory ping again

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 01:55 AM

OK

IT DOWNLOADED

where do i install it

I installed the launcher on the folder called desktop

V A H K I T I 06-Oct-19 02:07 AM

Wherever you want to install it. It will ask you where you put it after. (Not the most elegant way of doing things, but I'll need @benji to help make it any better)

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 02:07 AM

Ol

Ok

Installing

.......

It finished

Now lets open it

Holy crap

Im boutta lose it

I have no clue whats wrong here

ShadowDraikana 06-Oct-19 02:12 AM

did you try removing the ddraw dll from where you installed the game? just to verify

that fixes it for me

AXEKILLER311 06-Oct-19 02:12 AM

Oh

Forgot about that

Still nkt working

I removed the ddraw dll

Im about to give up with this game man theres so many problems with it

Im gonna try to run the game through alpha or beta but i think thats all we can do

@ShadowDraikana @V A H K I T I i think the game just needs a update

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Oct-19 08:45 AM

Do you have 60 tokens

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Oct-19 03:01 AM

Skip the FMVs with Escape

Sammimack 14-Oct-19 03:35 AM

The game instantly crashes whenever I try to dig at this wall. Any help?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Oct-19 03:38 AM

You have to use the debug camera

V A H K I T I 14-Oct-19 11:42 AM

Now hold on, that's alpha, and I thought we fixed that

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Oct-19 11:42 AM

it is and we did

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Oct-19 11:42 AM

did we release the new version?

V A H K I T I 14-Oct-19 11:43 AM

Pretty sure we did. Check the notes in the launcher (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Oct-19 11:43 AM

k

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Oct-19 11:43 AM

1.1.0

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Oct-19 11:43 AM

yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Oct-19 11:43 AM

V A H K I T I 14-Oct-19 11:44 AM

@Sammimack What patch are you running, if any? Also it looks like you've been messing with your DGVoodoo settings or put it in manually with the default?

Sammimack 15-Oct-19 07:30 AM

@V A H K I T I As far as I know I'm running 1.1.1, at least that's what version.txt says and I'm not prompted for a patch upon launch. As for DGVoodoo I haven't touched anything in its settings

Toa of Mirrors 17-Oct-19 08:54 PM

So, in the Rebuilt build recently posted on the -dev channel, Pohatu can win the race and still not get the Grappling Hook.

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Oct-19 08:55 PM

In what way

@Toa of Mirrors

Toa of Mirrors 17-Oct-19 09:07 PM

The player finishes the race, but runs past the grappling hook. He never collides with it, so he never picks it up. You enter the next room and hope you have enough elemental ammo to hit all the targets without it.

It took me a few tries to collide with it properly to actually get it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Oct-19 09:09 PM

i mean, you could just...stop moving and pick it up

Toa of Mirrors 17-Oct-19 09:10 PM

The point is, it's a bug. And if you run past it, it's not easy to pick it up in the five seconds before the race ends and the room changes. I didn't even know there was a grappling hook to pick up until I saw it in an LP.

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:10 PM

wot

five seconds before the race ends and the room changes

w o t

Toa of Mirrors 17-Oct-19 09:11 PM

Did I misunderstand how the level change happens?

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:11 PM

.....Yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Oct-19 09:11 PM

You need to physically hit the trigger

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:11 PM

YOu and you alone walk into it

Do you just like...

Never stop moving?

Toa of Mirrors 17-Oct-19 09:12 PM

It is a race.

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:12 PM

By that point you've long ago crossed the finish line??

Toa of Mirrors 17-Oct-19 09:14 PM

The first few times, yeah. But one simply shouldn't be able to leave without the grappling hook. Even by incompetence. Otherwise, you could be stuck in the next level. At the very least, it should maybe be a low-priority issue to prevent the player from exiting the level after a successful race without the hook.

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:14 PM

I uh...

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Oct-19 09:15 PM

To be fair, you can just backtrack into the room

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:15 PM

I think you're underestimating your own incompetence here.

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I don['t mean to be rude but like

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Oct-19 09:15 PM

Even though the door in GLY3 closes, it opens if you die, allowing you to go back

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:15 PM

There's literally a line on the ground like 20 feet from where the grapple is located

And the racer always stops there

If you just stop moving for half a second you can't miss it.

Toa of Mirrors 17-Oct-19 09:16 PM

Look, it's not a big deal. I have it now, so if you think it's a non-issue, I trust you. I just thought I should mention it here in case it was.

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:17 PM

I don't really see it as one given how again, if you just stop where you're supposed to stop it's impossible to overlook. When you run a marathon, do you just blast through the finish line and keep on running to the next county?

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Oct-19 09:17 PM

I suppose we could have the race music stop on hitting the finish line if it's an issue? (edited)

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:18 PM

I don't really see the point.

The way this area works has never been altered aside from the grapple texture, and this is the first report I've seen of this in two and a half years.

Again, I don't mean to be rude, but this is very definitely a you problem my guy.

The only thing I would change is maybe making the finish line itself more pronounced, but if you already noticed that anyways , (did you?) then that is neither here nor there.

Toa of Mirrors 17-Oct-19 09:21 PM

I noticed the finish line, I just didn't notice the grapple the first or second time, or perhaps I did but thought I picked it up. Look, I get it now, okay.

V A H K I T I 17-Oct-19 09:24 PM

If ya say so.

Toa of Mirrors 20-Oct-19 03:57 PM

Alright, so on the latest -dev rebuilt build, the dragon boss fight is seriously messed up. The boss HP bar isn't visible, the dragon won't come up from the lava after one gets down to the last rock platform, making the boss fight unwinnable, and if you replay the fight enough times in one session, the rock platforms just drift away, so you have nothing to stand on to attack the dragon after you fell him with a stalactite. I honestly don't know if it's a real bug or if I'm just being incompetent again, but I took some screenshots in case I wasn't.

And here's one of the last rock platform problem I'm having: (edited)

Here's a copy of my xml save file, in case that's the issue.

Attachment: player1.sav (5.54 KB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Oct-19 04:01 PM

The dragon disappearing is known, but usually only occurs if you hit it into the lava instead of onto the platform. The health bar not appearing is a resolution issue; it appears fine if the game is in 4:3. The platforms there are also something we've seen before, I believe.

Also, if it knocks out all the platforms, yes, you can't win. It's that way by design.

Thefernofrommars 23-Oct-19 01:06 AM

hey for some reason on the bionicle legends of mata nui launcher when i press bionicle rebuilt for some reason it wont download its either my PC's drive isnt compatable or something else

Thefernofrommars 23-Oct-19 07:11 PM

can anyone help me with this

like can i have a file of bionicle legends of mata nui rebuilt

ShadowDraikana 24-Oct-19 02:15 PM

is it throwing a message about incompatible version or something

Thefernofrommars 24-Oct-19 05:23 PM

yeah it was but the beta and alpha work for me

ShadowDraikana 24-Oct-19 08:41 PM

~~liam you really do need to remove that os check~~

V A H K I T I 24-Oct-19 08:42 PM

Put it on the Trello board for this patch then. If one has been made yet. If not @The Cap'm (Reese), you could handle it? Just current patch stuff

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Oct-19 08:42 PM

what now

V A H K I T I 24-Oct-19 08:42 PM

A trello board for current patch issues

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Oct-19 08:43 PM

as in bugfixes for 1.1? That's on the board

V A H K I T I 24-Oct-19 08:43 PM

Ah okay

Well in that case, go ahead and add the version check to that

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Oct-19 08:43 PM

k

what priority level

V A H K I T I 24-Oct-19 08:44 PM

Ah I think you misunderstand, I don't mean the NEXT patch, I mean the one we currently have in progress

As in the one you've been testing

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Oct-19 08:44 PM

...oh

well no there's no board for that

V A H K I T I 24-Oct-19 08:44 PM

Well just add a column for it and add in your and Ondrik's findings + the thing I just said.

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Oct-19 08:45 PM

OK

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Oct-19 08:52 PM

so the current column is the missing legend FMV, ROOM doors, and the launcher OS check

the mud0 thing falls under the boss music changes, which was already on the list for 1.1 (not 1.0.1)

do we want to try getting those pickup models done for 1.0.1/1.4 or are we leaving that for 1.1/1.5

@V A H K I T I

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Oct-19 09:27 PM

Good talk

V A H K I T I 25-Oct-19 01:06 AM

Pickup models?

The Cap'm (Reese) 25-Oct-19 01:07 AM

...the quest pickup models respawning if you leave an area (currently VTNL and MAZ2) and come back?

Regardless I'm sleeping now so either you change it or wait about 10 hours for me to do it :v

V A H K I T I 25-Oct-19 01:31 AM

o that

Leave it I say

Thefernofrommars 27-Oct-19 06:50 PM

okay

Thefernofrommars 27-Oct-19 11:40 PM

it works now

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-19 06:34 AM

?

Thefernofrommars 29-Oct-19 01:17 AM

bonkle rebuilt works now

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Oct-19 01:17 AM

nice

Thefernofrommars 29-Oct-19 01:17 AM

only crashed twice

the game looks pretty nice

for being "made" in the 2000s

V A H K I T I 29-Oct-19 06:30 AM

:p

ScrapMetaru 29-Oct-19 04:04 PM

Prob'ly not a bug per se, but funky lighting.

UTTER_BODGE 29-Oct-19 04:06 PM

spotlights in that area could use some tweaking for rebuilt

quite a bit of lighting work that could be done in rebuilt, really

V A H K I T I 29-Oct-19 04:23 PM

I wonder who among us could possibly work on such a task.. :v

UTTER_BODGE 29-Oct-19 04:25 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Oct-19 04:27 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Oct-19 04:27 PM

V A H K I T I 29-Oct-19 04:27 PM

sweg (Andrew) 29-Oct-19 04:31 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Oct-19 04:31 PM

sweg (Andrew) 29-Oct-19 04:32 PM

Leena 29-Oct-19 04:34 PM

Crainy 03-Nov-19 03:06 PM

So how do I get LOMN rebuilt in fullscreen? It always switches back to windowed after the intro

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 13-Nov-19 03:38 PM

There's no death zone in the small cliff in onua's level, right at the start

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Nov-19 03:40 PM

...this one?

because this kills you just fine

V A H K I T I 13-Nov-19 04:52 PM

It's... worth noting that he's clearly playing an ancient dev build of Rebuilt for some reason.

The HUD ammo change is present, but Onua is still using the beta model.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 13-Nov-19 05:29 PM

Huh?

I updated it...

Fuck imma look into that tomorrow...

GoneChillin 17-Nov-19 08:15 PM

Yo guys no idea what I've joined or anything here hahah am useless with gamer stuff but i'm trying to play LOMN on my laptop and Gali level is bugging like hell

it's grim

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-Nov-19 08:18 PM

What specifically is happening

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 02-Dec-19 02:05 PM

[1:59 PM] lillith: hey so im new. Just wondering cause I cant figure out why the games doing this but why does the legend of mata nui disable xpadder?

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 03:22 PM

I keep getting a bug where after a few times, if I reopen the game or, sometimes just randomly, my save gets corrupted I guess and the file at the load screen looks like this:

How can I send my save to figure out what's wrong?

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 03:35 PM

The save file should be in the data folder, called player1.sav

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 03:35 PM

Aight

Theres player0, 1, and 4

Should I send all 3?

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 03:36 PM

player0 is the test menu save file, and player4 is slot 4

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 03-Dec-19 03:36 PM

just player1

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 03:37 PM

Ah ok

Attachment: player1.sav (3.4 KB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 03:38 PM

What area were you in when you last played?

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 03:39 PM

At the part where you need the mask of night vision. I somehow missed it and was trying to hop back through the falling platforms in the cave with Vakamas mask before closing the game for the day, and when I came back it was like this

And trying to continue from that save starts you back on the beach

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 03:40 PM

So the area with the falling platforms with lights above them was where you quit, then?

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 03:41 PM

Then I reloaded the game, and I got the weird save thing.

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 03:41 PM

Got it.

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 03:41 PM

If I had to make a guess is I might've sequence broke on accident and this was a result of it but idk

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 03:42 PM

No, save corruption is a known issue. It's caused by the game's front end, though we're not currently sure why.

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 03:42 PM

Oh, alright. Thank yall!

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 03:43 PM

Try this.

Attachment: player1.sav (3.4 KB)

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 03:44 PM

Alright

RatchetV 03-Dec-19 04:20 PM

It worked, thanks

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 04:20 PM

Good!

The Shadow Emperor 03-Dec-19 07:46 PM

I used to get that bug all the time but after reloading once or twice it would always resolve itself

V A H K I T I 03-Dec-19 08:56 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) What was wrong with this one in particular? If we haven't started yet, we should start documenting known causes of this issue.

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-19 10:02 PM

As far as I've been told it involves quitting and being put back in FREN. @sweg (Andrew) can probably go into more detail.

ShadowDraikana 03-Dec-19 10:05 PM

it's literally the front end that causes this

i told benji repeatedly

literally just quit back to main menu. quit from front end. voila, corrupted save :v

sweg (Andrew) 03-Dec-19 10:07 PM

pretty much that

LeoProm 04-Dec-19 04:22 AM

Hello Is there any solution to the unhandled exceptions?

ShadowDraikana 04-Dec-19 08:34 AM

there's a number of them

depends on which one(s) you ran into

some of them we haven't been able to fix yet

Swamp Kryakwa 14-Dec-19 12:15 PM

Don't know why, but when I reach Gali level in rebuilt, game crashes

Also, game freezes on trying enter inventory screen

bubbawannabet 17-Dec-19 08:03 PM

Hey, I think I know the problem with my save file: I started it from the test menu, then I continued it on the regular menu, and after that the problem started

V A H K I T I 17-Dec-19 08:04 PM

Uh...

You can't continue a save made from the test menu in frontend unless you rename it manually, which from what I gather you don't know how to do since you don't even know where it is.

Frontend saves player1.sav through player4.sav in the Data folder. The test menu however uses player0.sav.

It sounds like you just ended up switching saves.

ShadowDraikana 17-Dec-19 08:56 PM

regardless,

it's the god damn front end

i cant do shit as far as debugging this since it's something with how bettersaver or the game handles saves on quit

bubbawannabet 17-Dec-19 10:21 PM

No I made a save file in front end from the test menu, then continued it on the regular menu, if that makes sense

It said it was like 4000000% complete, which was weird

bubbawannabet 17-Dec-19 10:31 PM

In other words, I unchecked the test menu box, then opened the save that I had started in the test menu's front end

Arcphoenix 30-Dec-19 10:42 AM

First time on this server and first time trying out the Legend of Mata Nui Rebuilt. Help, please. @Arcphoenix if you have any help. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 30-Dec-19 10:43 AM

which build

oh duh you said rebuilt

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Dec-19 10:45 AM

Your antivirus might be deleting it.

I've been having that issue with McAfee where it deletes the ijl15 and BetterSaver dlls

Arcphoenix 30-Dec-19 10:52 AM

If that's the case, how do I deal with it?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Dec-19 10:56 AM

just try to add an exception in your antivirus

Arcphoenix 30-Dec-19 11:08 AM

I have no idea how to do that, but I'll look it up and give that a try.

Arcphoenix 31-Dec-19 03:22 AM

No idea. Got it running once on a different computer, but just once

Got a new error. (edited)

“LegoBionicle.exe - Application Error” “The application was unable to start correctly (0xc000009a). Click OK to close the application.” (edited)

LeoProm 31-Dec-19 07:18 PM

Hello! i have a problem with tahu's lvl

The door of vakama place dont open

i got de vahi

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-Dec-19 07:19 PM

Have you saved the village?

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-Dec-19 07:19 PM

I assume you're in the Shrine if you have the Vahi, correct?

LeoProm 31-Dec-19 07:19 PM

yes

then i went to the portal

return to vakamas place... but when i go out

i cant go inside again

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-Dec-19 07:20 PM

Did you save the village?

LeoProm 31-Dec-19 07:20 PM

(sorry im a beginner in english. thats why i talk like tarzan)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 31-Dec-19 07:20 PM

it's okay

LeoProm 31-Dec-19 07:20 PM

i think no

in the takoro castle... this is suppose to be at the left?

when I started the level of tahu I entered the castle, I collected the tokens but the door didn't open

so I decided to leave the castle and go to the right where the puzzles began to go jumping and that

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-Dec-19 07:23 PM

In the village there are four hives. Destroy all four along with all the enemies that come out, and the music will change. The door to Vakama's hut will then open.

LeoProm 31-Dec-19 07:24 PM

ooooh k!

thanks will try

that happens to me to do things backwards

it works. sorry for that

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-Dec-19 07:28 PM

No problem.

Drift&Miss 31-Dec-19 08:47 PM

The launcher for the alpha

constantly gets me to repatch

then gives me loads of errors about bink32 not being there (it is)

then this dll

(it isn't there)

Just got this in the test level

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-Dec-19 09:02 PM

Test level isn't exactly build for stability

Drift&Miss 31-Dec-19 09:02 PM

um

lol

I just swam into something as gali

and the game had a fit

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-Dec-19 09:03 PM

How so.

The dlls might be getting flagged by your antivirus, btw. If it persists you may need to whitelist them

Arcphoenix 01-Jan-20 12:20 AM

The first is the same error I was having above with prebuilt. Why does antivirus hate this game so much anyway, lol? Suggestions for which files need to be whitelisted? (edited)

LeoProm 01-Jan-20 12:22 AM

Happy new year!

the button stay down and i cant activate the platform

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Jan-20 12:24 AM

Dlls that I had to whitelist were the ijl15 and BetterSaver

LeoProm 01-Jan-20 12:25 AM

i dont understand xd

CyclonatorZ 01-Jan-20 12:29 AM

@The Cap'm (Reese) Why do you still have McAfee in 2020?

What version of Windows are you on? If you're on 10, ditch that shit. The on-board Microsoft security is enough. Just combine it with an adblocker (I recommend uBlock Origin), and the free version of Malwarebytes if you still end up getting a virus somehow.

ShadowDraikana 01-Jan-20 12:46 AM

malwarebytes is good, yeah

The on-board Microsoft security is enough. ~~doesn't protect you from their malware they call an operating system~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Jan-20 12:47 AM

I'd like to not be judged for the default programs on my laptop, thanks

ShadowDraikana 01-Jan-20 12:48 AM

how much other bloatware ya got on there out of curiosity lol

wait

it's win10

dumb question

lmao

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Jan-20 12:48 AM

ScrapMetaru 10-Jan-20 12:56 AM

The Launcher won't open. I'm on a new laptop, I just installed and reinstalled the launcher, and if I open the thing, it appears in the task manager, declares itself suspended for a fraction of a second, lingers, and finally disappears from the task manager with no other trace of having opened.

V A H K I T I 10-Jan-20 05:11 AM

Try installing the Microsoft Visual C++ runtime library

@ScrapMetaru

ScrapMetaru 10-Jan-20 06:52 AM

Are these it?

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 10-Jan-20 02:20 PM

finished onua's portion of the game, but it crashes when loading gali

Unhandled exception: 80000003 At address: 7664fd62

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Jan-20 02:21 PM

Pretty sure that's a masked version of the model crash

The area after the Onua/Gali cutscene gives that crash on occassion.

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 10-Jan-20 02:22 PM

oh good

bjdfh

i just , like. literally cant load the area

like i started the game up again and got the same error when it tried to load

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Jan-20 02:22 PM

Trying multiple times until it decides to load usually works for me.

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 10-Jan-20 02:22 PM

alright! cool

thank you

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-Jan-20 02:22 PM

The model crash is a strange one.

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 10-Jan-20 02:22 PM

hope you can figure out whats causing it

V A H K I T I 10-Jan-20 04:45 PM

@ScrapMetaru ye

ulvenAspiration 16-Jan-20 03:16 PM

can anyone get me a save file for the start of kopaka's level

ShadowDraikana 16-Jan-20 03:18 PM

just a fresh save for the very beginning of that level?

ulvenAspiration 16-Jan-20 03:18 PM

yeah

I got through pohatu's level and onto kopaka's then when i got in today the file corrupted and dropped me at the start of onua's level with 10 tokens

ShadowDraikana 16-Jan-20 03:47 PM

aight sorry for the delay, ill get that sent shortly

ShadowDraikana 16-Jan-20 03:55 PM

@ulvenAspiration (rename to whichever slot you want this in; put this in the data folder wherever you installed the game)

Attachment: player1.sav (514 B)

Seruwu😺 21-Jan-20 10:18 AM

there's a common issue in ga-koro where if i drown, the game crashes

here's the address

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Jan-20 10:18 AM

That happens if you drown literally anywhere.

Seruwu😺 21-Jan-20 10:19 AM

holy shit

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Jan-20 10:19 AM

It's a particle overload.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Jan-20 10:19 AM

any way to like, make a hookmod to prevent this?

Seruwu😺 21-Jan-20 10:20 AM

yeah i was told about it just now, it's kinda annoying since i'm still collecting tokens to access the second dungeon in ga-wahi

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Jan-20 10:20 AM

We could also, y'know, fix how death underwater works? So that it only kills you once?

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 21-Jan-20 03:00 PM

that sounds like a good plan :p

ulvenAspiration 22-Jan-20 12:03 PM

i don't get it i can't make tlomn fullscreen

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jan-20 12:04 PM

Alt+Enter doesn't work?

ulvenAspiration 22-Jan-20 12:05 PM

Well yeah it does

Doesn't make it any bigger it just puts a black border around most of the screen

I need the game to fit my screen so i can actually see what I'm doing when climbing this ice spire

I for the love of me can't get to the last platform

I fall into the bottomless pit below and have to start all over again

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jan-20 12:08 PM

Kopaka's level, right after the cutscene?

ulvenAspiration 22-Jan-20 12:08 PM

Yeah

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jan-20 12:08 PM

yeah that's buggy

but you should be able to do it

ulvenAspiration 22-Jan-20 12:08 PM

There are tokens at the top so there's gotta be a way up

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jan-20 12:08 PM

provided that you don't grab on a corner

V A H K I T I 22-Jan-20 12:09 PM

There are tokens at the top so there's gotta be a way up

You again assume that this game is finished

ulvenAspiration 22-Jan-20 12:09 PM

I just

Can't get at the right angle

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Jan-20 12:09 PM

ledge grabbing uses raycasting iirc, which doesn't behave very well on that

ulvenAspiration 22-Jan-20 12:09 PM

Maybe if i turn the kakama on

Yep, that worked

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 25-Jan-20 05:35 PM

i was in the uhhh room just past the

water surfing??

in galis level?

shot at a bug and the game crashed

forgot to get th crash code tho sory,,

ok this time i think i drowned

i hit the surface of the water and then i Just Died,

and then the game crashed

unhandled exception c0000005 at address 5e62ce52

I ENTERED A ROOM AND THE GAME CRASHED?

same exception

at address 1001d6d3

its the room after the one kapuras in

i reloaded the game and its fine now??????

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 25-Jan-20 06:04 PM

swimming in ga-koro. crashed

same exception, at address 77675dec

The Cap'm (Reese) 25-Jan-20 06:09 PM

1001d6d3 is the model crash. Known. Dying underwater is a well known crash due to particle overload.

ulvenAspiration 04-Feb-20 01:40 AM

hey, um (edited)

so my save file got corrupted after i exited out after beating kopaka's level. I need a save for the start of Lewa's segment

ShadowDraikana 04-Feb-20 08:22 AM

FFS

we gotta fix this thing

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Feb-20 08:25 AM

should I add it to the trello?

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Feb-20 08:25 AM

Yeah. Add save corruption bug to current bugfixes

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Feb-20 08:27 AM

added it under high priority (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Feb-20 08:27 AM

Gud

ShadowDraikana 04-Feb-20 08:41 AM

~~ive already stated before what causes it and im not repeating it again~~ (edited)

sweg (Andrew) 04-Feb-20 08:42 AM

~~quit the game lol~~

ShadowDraikana 04-Feb-20 08:43 AM

~~ding ding ding~~

Teylgate 04-Feb-20 03:32 PM

i have an i s s u e

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Feb-20 03:32 PM

yes?

Teylgate 04-Feb-20 03:33 PM

okay, so, new laptop, perfect, great. runs the game just fine- for about a minute. i start up, the opening cutscene plays (but only takes up half of the screen) and as SOON as the actual game starts, it just closes straight away

both beta and rebuilt do this

Teylgate 04-Feb-20 04:32 PM

please tag me if you reply cause im ginna sleep lol

Teylgate 05-Feb-20 04:29 PM

BRUH

bruh*

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Feb-20 12:02 PM

@xeno what's your issue?

nep 07-Feb-20 06:17 PM

I keep getting this error as soon as I launch the game (rebuilt version). i have XP compatibility mode on + i ran it as an administrator. i'm sure i'm the one doing something wrong but i don't really know what it is.

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Feb-20 03:57 PM

You get stuck at the bottom?

Lifemad 09-Feb-20 03:58 PM

I just sit on the black bottom of it and then have to restart

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Feb-20 03:59 PM

There's a cave at the bottom of all the platforms.

Falling into the pit is not a solid plan

Lifemad 09-Feb-20 04:02 PM

ahhh lmao I can't beleive I missed that, just assumed the bottom would load me in ty

V A H K I T I 09-Feb-20 04:02 PM

It IS an issue if there's no killbox there though..

@The Cap'm (Reese)

The Cap'm (Reese) 09-Feb-20 04:03 PM

yeah i gathered that

though last I checked that pit was bugged and instakilled you

so

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Feb-20 07:32 PM

Found a graphical bug with the Huna.

Attachment: 2020-02-20_18-31-32.mp4 (4.16 MB)

ShadowDraikana 20-Feb-20 07:42 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Feb-20 07:42 PM

the invisibility effect

If you manipulate the camera to the point where it makes you translucent with the Huna active, the invisibility effect stops

note after the first and third attempts how the Huna is active and Kopaka looks normal

ShadowDraikana 20-Feb-20 07:44 PM

huh

it overrides the transparency effect

UTTER_BODGE 21-Feb-20 01:44 AM

yeah I pointed that out prolly like half a year ago lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412470639513960451/587129111319674891/2019-06-08-2100-50.mp4

when the camera goes close, it enables transparency

when the camera goes away, it disables it

the huna does the same thing

the actual proper way to do it would be to have two values, "is the camera close enough to enable transparency" and "is the huna on"

and then if either of those is true, make the character transparent

instead of having both of those separate things trying to control transparency directly, ignoring anything else that also should control it (edited)

fundamentally the same bug as the grapple in ga-koro, where the trigger box was trying to set the "should you be able to fire the grapple" thing but it was useless cause something else was directly setting it too, as if each were the only thing that "owned" it (edited)

this particular kind of bug just annoys me cause I've seen it in sooooo many games despite it being like... the most straightforward, generally easy to avoid kind of bug possible lol

(and I'm sure I'll do it a thousand times myself too)

V A H K I T I 21-Feb-20 09:39 AM

It really is dumb

It's one of the simplest logic gates un programming.

Or just logic in general. IDK if in programming it's referred to as gates still.

~~I'm just used to the LittleBigPlanet chips~~

(edited)

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:37 PM

Downloaded the setup for alpha, beta, and rebuilt but computer supports none of em-

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:38 PM

are your running the game exe in XP Compatibility mode?

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:39 PM

How do I do that?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:39 PM

Right click on the EXE and go to properties

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:39 PM

Also tryna run it on Windows 10 if that changes anything

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:39 PM

In the properties, go to "Compatibility"

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:40 PM

There's xp service pack 2 and 3

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:40 PM

check the compatibility mode box and set it to XP pack 2 or 3

either works I think (though I use 2)

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:41 PM

Nothing seems to work

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:42 PM

what exactly is happening when you try to run the game

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:42 PM

"This app can't run on your PC" error

Trying to use the setup

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:43 PM

wait

So hold on a sec

You used the launcher to download a game version

it downloaded the setup file

And it tried and failed to autorun?

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:44 PM

Yea

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:44 PM

okay I thought you meant the actual game for a sec

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:44 PM

O XD

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:44 PM

you can take it off XP comatibility

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:44 PM

Sorry bout the mix up XD ^^:

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:44 PM

Hmm

@V A H K I T I You ever seen the setup EXE fail to run?

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:45 PM

All 3 setup EXEs are failing

V A H K I T I 21-Feb-20 08:46 PM

THat has to be something with your system. All three didn't even come from the same source.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:46 PM

they're on win 10

ftr

V A H K I T I 21-Feb-20 08:46 PM

The alpha setup was created by Saffire, and the beta, rebuilt, and launcer setups were created my myself

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:47 PM

Yea none of the setups are working idk what could be going on

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 08:47 PM

I've never seen those fail to run before

V A H K I T I 21-Feb-20 08:48 PM

"This app can't run on your PC" is usally only reserved for like... MSDOS executables

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:48 PM

Computers just about brand new too

V A H K I T I 21-Feb-20 08:48 PM

Shit that hasn't run on Windows since like 2010 (edited)

Omalight 21-Feb-20 08:49 PM

"To find a version for your PC, check with the software publisher"

That's the little bit under the error

Omalight 21-Feb-20 09:14 PM

Gonna see if restarting it changes anything

Omalight 21-Feb-20 09:33 PM

Nothin

mc fish 21-Feb-20 10:50 PM

My computer keeps saying the game file is infected with a FileRepMalware and won't let me install the game.

mc fish 21-Feb-20 11:05 PM

I added it as an exception. I wonder why it does this?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 11:06 PM

I still don't know why antiviruses pick the game up as malware

it's really inconvenient

mc fish 21-Feb-20 11:17 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) it's because the computer is still salty over G2 being cancelled.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 11:17 PM

heh

mc fish 21-Feb-20 11:19 PM

If it can't get a G2, no one deserves to enjoy Bionicle!

mc fish 22-Feb-20 09:21 AM

I have encountered a problem. Checking the inventory crashes my game, and I can't use Onua's thunder tablet thing to open the door.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 22-Feb-20 09:22 AM

and I can't use Onua's thunder tablet thing to open the door.

To open which door?

mc fish 22-Feb-20 09:37 AM

It turns out I needed to press the control button to use it. The inventory still crashes my game, and the defeating the boss also crashed it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Feb-20 09:38 AM

Inventory has been known forever

By "defeating the boss," what exactly happened?

Did it crash the moment the boss died, or on the way out of the room?

mc fish 22-Feb-20 09:41 AM

Crashed the moment the boss died. I restarted the game and finished off the boss, now it's working.

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Feb-20 09:42 AM

Did you get the crash address by any chance?

mc fish 22-Feb-20 09:50 AM

Nope. And my game crashed again, right after the scene with Onua and Gali. It was some sort of incription error if I remember, I didn't get the address of that one either unfortunately.

Again I just restarted my game and it put me to where I needed to be.

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Feb-20 10:00 AM

That one would be the STRT model crash. That won't be an issue when 1.1 comes out

Omalight 22-Feb-20 03:08 PM

So tried to uninstall and reinstall to see if anything changes

I thought something might've gone wrong when downloading the setup so wanted to check

How large are the setup files supposed to be

Omalight 22-Feb-20 03:19 PM

If I remember correctly the ones i got were 6 kb

V A H K I T I 22-Feb-20 09:29 PM

wot

yeah that's... definitely not right

They should be BARE MINIMUM 600mb.

(edited)

@Omalight

mc fish 23-Feb-20 07:49 PM

My game save is corrupted. This was after I saved my game as Gali and now the game says it's 445544333455333444% complete.

It also starts me off as Onua.

Leena 23-Feb-20 09:40 PM

Wow you must really be a completionist

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Feb-20 09:47 PM

Save corruption is a known bug.

ShadowDraikana 23-Feb-20 10:01 PM

i've

already

given

repro

steps

before

with

this

bug

quit the game

that's literally what breaks it

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Feb-20 10:03 PM

We know

This chat has been 80% dupe issues for a while now :p

ShadowDraikana 23-Feb-20 10:06 PM

~~let's do some, y'know, bug fixing then :P~~

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-20 10:55 PM

well where exactly do you propose we start?

Omalight 24-Feb-20 01:32 AM

Game works fine now computer just didn't want to download it off the launcher for whatever reason XD

mc fish 24-Feb-20 02:41 AM

Now the game keeps starting me off in the very beginning, last time I saved I was at the beginning of Gali's level.

mc fish 24-Feb-20 03:33 AM

Managed to get a screen shot of a game crashing bug. It won't let me play any farther.

Felwreaver 24-Feb-20 07:28 AM

Crashes after I either get hit and "die" or after I respawn at checkpoint

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:28 AM

Ah that crash... That's one we've yet to quite resolve but we are aware of the cause.

IIRC it's particle overload from the death animation. This engine really doesn't handle its own particle system very well.

Felwreaver 24-Feb-20 07:30 AM

ah fairo hope ya'll can fix this at some point but other than that the game is amazing

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:31 AM

❤️ Also we're working on it, but this is one of those particularly annoying bus that requires work on hard-coded stuff. @ShadowDraikana could probably give you more details on this specific situation. She's better at keeping track of ongoing issues than I am at present with my schedule all over the place.

1

Galgo 26-Feb-20 02:17 PM

It might be known already, but the pit at the end of Pohatu's level doesn't kill the player and it's possible to get stuck down there

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 26-Feb-20 02:47 PM

I'm like, at least 10% sure that's known

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Feb-20 02:53 PM

Tis

Imatron 27-Feb-20 08:34 AM

Got these darn things all over the house. Can't get rid of them.

V A H K I T I 27-Feb-20 01:21 PM

Boi

Grom 27-Feb-20 07:15 PM

mouse getting stuck to left side of screen

Grom 28-Feb-20 08:24 AM

Ello

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 28-Feb-20 08:26 AM

sup

Iceox-Gaming 01-Mar-20 05:20 AM

Hello, I could play Bionicle The Legend of Mata Nui Rebuilt version for a few days with some minor crashes. Main issue: after a few days when I had reached a bit into Gali’s level and were going to load my save file, I were met by a strange value on the progression bar and I ended up at the start of the game as Onua. When trying to reach Gali’s level yet again it showed the right progression percentage again while playing through Onus’s level, but the game would crash when I would talk once or many times to the Matoran who want its pickaxe back and I could also not start or complete the mini quests. I would still manage to reach Gali’s level. I were going to load the game file again, after taking a break from playing, and once more I were met by the same progression problem. Is it something I could do to at least fix the progression problem so that I don’t start at the beginning of the game?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 01-Mar-20 05:21 AM

This is known, but I have absolutely no idea how to fix it, sorry.

Iceox-Gaming 01-Mar-20 05:22 AM

Ok, thanks for noting me. @Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej)

ShadowDraikana 01-Mar-20 07:40 AM

idea: we should pin uploads of clean saves for every level after 1 so people can use them incases like this

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 01-Mar-20 07:40 AM

I have clean saves of every level on the src resources page, but they're all for the old system

I should add the new ones there

ShadowDraikana 01-Mar-20 07:41 AM

please do when you can

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 01-Mar-20 08:46 AM

Old and new saves now available at https://www.speedrun.com/bionicle_tlomn/resources (edited)

speedrun.com

Speedrunning leaderboards, resources, forums, and more!

ShadowDraikana 01-Mar-20 08:53 AM

Pinned a message.

ShadowDraikana 01-Mar-20 03:54 PM

PSA: If you report a save corruption bug please post your save file.

Iceox-Gaming 08-Mar-20 02:09 PM

My save file got cortupted again, here is: player0.sav (player1.sav incoming)

Attachment: player0.sav (512 B)

Attachment: player1.sav (2.67 KB)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Mar-20 02:10 PM

player0.sav is not used

iirc

Iceox-Gaming 08-Mar-20 02:11 PM

Ok, thanks for notting me

V A H K I T I 08-Mar-20 02:11 PM

Question

Where were you when you last quit the game?

I'm assuming somewhere in Gali's level

Iceox-Gaming 08-Mar-20 02:20 PM

Yes, I had reached Gali’s level. I was going to get the Kaukau for the second time and had just entered the entrance to the underwater part of the level.

V A H K I T I 08-Mar-20 02:20 PM

Well @ShadowDraikana I can definitely see the issue in this file right away.

Nothing is corrupted. Frontend has just saved its ow location and player on top of Gali.

So it's set up as Level 0 > Onua > FRNT

ShadowDraikana 08-Mar-20 02:21 PM

that's what i suspected would be an issue

problem is

removing this breaks other things in the screenlist shit

so returning to the menu from lev7 the way we wanted becomes problematic

HOWEVER

i can try setting this up to rule out the code i'm thinking of

and see if the save corruption happens with it removed

V A H K I T I 08-Mar-20 02:23 PM

The issue is finding a consistent trigger

Cause this doesn't always happen

ShadowDraikana 08-Mar-20 02:24 PM

quit

the

damn

game

V A H K I T I 08-Mar-20 02:24 PM

But it's not consistent

It doesn't ALWAYS overwrite the save

V A H K I T I 08-Mar-20 02:40 PM

At any rate, we have an idea of what it's doing. Quitting the game is not the cause, it's just an inconsistent trigger.

Presumably the cause is some saving code in the OSI within the frontend stuff, and not a BetterSaver issue, yes?

ShadowDraikana 08-Mar-20 03:29 PM

it's bettersaver partially

this got much worse with it

not to mention one function is entirely broken

V A H K I T I 08-Mar-20 03:49 PM

oh?

(Team Kanohi) Markle 08-Mar-20 04:46 PM

I have a question: which version of the game is like more stable? The 1.4 beta or the 1.0.1 rebuild?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 08-Mar-20 04:47 PM

both pretty much equally, as far as I know

(Team Kanohi) Markle 08-Mar-20 04:47 PM

thanks

Ponitail 10-Mar-20 01:38 PM

So I encountered a glitch during the Earth elemental battle and just wanted to let you guys know: https://drive.google.com/open?id=19645M4x-oze4X4Z05MpuCBXVQW9Q1-zq

2020-03-10 11-29-39.mkv

V A H K I T I 10-Mar-20 01:49 PM

That's.. not a bug. :V

Ponitail 10-Mar-20 02:02 PM

The skipping around with it not coming up again?

V A H K I T I 10-Mar-20 02:03 PM

Hint: How did you get into this room in the first place? :p

Ponitail 10-Mar-20 02:04 PM

ah. okay then

V A H K I T I 10-Mar-20 02:04 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:41 PM

weird couple things with the ice elemental

A) Dying after killing him in the alpha has him...well, not respawn, but his noises play and the game acts like he's hitting the platforms (even though he's not physically there and can't hurt you)

B) Dying after killing him in the beta brings his HP bar back to full, but he doesn't respawn

V A H K I T I 18-Mar-20 01:43 PM

Sounds like broken cleanup to me

@ShadowDraikana Agreed?

ShadowDraikana 18-Mar-20 01:44 PM

B is nothing i can fix i don't think. the rest command probably wasn't updated in the exe

as in they forgot about the killbox

*reset

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:45 PM

decided to do a run of alpha lev4 today after my obsession over GLY1 yesterday and found that

ShadowDraikana 18-Mar-20 01:46 PM

nice

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:47 PM

oh and ftr

TELE, GLY1, and VISN are the only maps you can't beat

otherwise the entire level is beatable, surprisingly

V A H K I T I 18-Mar-20 01:47 PM

>VISN

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:47 PM

...yes?

V A H K I T I 18-Mar-20 01:48 PM

Ash knows.

ShadowDraikana 18-Mar-20 01:48 PM

visn are you trying to trigger my depression today

lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:49 PM

~~okay, MBCH instead~~

ShadowDraikana 18-Mar-20 01:49 PM

ShadowDraikana has left the server

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:49 PM

funny joke :p

ShadowDraikana 18-Mar-20 01:50 PM

aight so i might look into gly1 for kicks

V A H K I T I 18-Mar-20 01:55 PM

And I will finish my texturing final, then make the new Amana Volo

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:55 PM

And I'll...uh...

V A H K I T I 18-Mar-20 01:55 PM

Btw Greg & PD 3 is done.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:55 PM

kewl

V A H K I T I 18-Mar-20 01:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qs1ZyoGDlw

The Beaverhouse

ProjectMemelord - Greg & PD 3: Army of Dankness Alpha (2020/03/17)

Oh you may be wiser but if you really thought the memes were over, you'll soon find out that they've only just begun. :v Made this one almost entirely in 48 hours thanks to Unreal constantly shitting the bed even once as far as completely erasing 90% of the entire project. D...

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:55 PM

ye saw that

V A H K I T I 18-Mar-20 01:55 PM

Got 75% marks. :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:56 PM

~~what was the 25% off~~

V A H K I T I 18-Mar-20 01:56 PM

The teacher couldn't make any sense of it.

Which is by design so..

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Mar-20 01:56 PM

Ah.

ShadowDraikana 18-Mar-20 02:12 PM

heh

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Mar-20 02:49 PM

TA02 post-cutscene seems to have a problem with cutting the lavafall door open

it teleports you miles away and particle crashes you to death

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Mar-20 08:27 AM

Slight bug in Main 1.4: Collecting tokens in an area and reloading the save (without entering any new area) makes the tokens disappear from that area, but doesn't give them to you (edited)

Nordii723 29-Mar-20 04:28 PM

Are there any save files available for level 2 just after acquiring the Kaukau? I would do it myself, but the well known crash in that room is giving me trouble.

Nordii723 29-Mar-20 06:44 PM

You can cancel the request. I was fortunate

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:07 AM

I need help installing the game

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 08:07 AM

So, what problems are you experiencing?

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:08 AM

first of all what file do I download from the site

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 08:08 AM

biomediaproject?

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:08 AM

yes

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 08:08 AM

just go to bit.ly/LegendNoLonger and you'll get the installer

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:08 AM

aka this one?

or

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 08:09 AM

the second one

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:09 AM

sometimes I get a bit dumb when it comes to installing stuff

now I open the launcher right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 08:11 AM

Yeah, now you hit no

and then it will download the game

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:11 AM

a

Id usually download one of the old links and use the .exe;s to open the game

where do I put it

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 08:15 AM

Where you want to

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:16 AM

rather safe than sorry

what do I open

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 08:17 AM

The LEGOBionicle.exe file

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:18 AM

oh man it's so great to see the game again

is there any full list of the controls?

I alt tabbed and now I cant go back in game

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 08:25 AM

Is the game frozen?

Andrei 06-Apr-20 08:25 AM

nevermind

as soon as the cutscene ended it went back in game

how do i get to those

opened the inventory and game is stuck?

Dymkobierca 06-Apr-20 08:40 AM

Yes, this happens a lot.

But what effectively stopped me from playing was the 4294967281% completion bug.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Apr-20 09:06 AM

You need the grapple to get to them

Andrei 06-Apr-20 09:26 AM

how do I grapple?

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Apr-20 09:26 AM

space bar

Andrei 06-Apr-20 09:27 AM

oh

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 12:01 PM

https://clips.twitch.tv/AnimatedNastyFlySMOrc

MajorTokenBug? - Clip of Nordki - Twitch Clips

Clip of Nordki Playing Bionicle - Clipped by reesewb

so uh

this just happened

V A H K I T I 07-Apr-20 12:02 PM

Can't watch right now. What is it?

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 12:02 PM

So Ondrik is doing a run rn, and he reloads in VLLG4 suddenly having his lev3 and lev4 token counts combined

He's also had the game load him out of bounds in two separate areas, so the stream's going great

point is he went from having 13 tokens to 58 by merely loading the game

...so this entire run has been filled with great bugs

https://clips.twitch.tv/BlueFlaccidFerretFUNgineer

ThisGameIsAss - Clip of Nordki - Twitch Clips

Clip of Nordki Playing Bionicle - Clipped by reesewb

...and whatever's going on just made the HIVE>SHRN transition not work, so

this is going phenominally

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Apr-20 12:39 PM

Alright

I've stopped the stream now, I can talk about this.

When doing this in Lev5, I've confirmed what it is

for some reason, quitting a game which was started from the test menu and starting a new level from the test menu and then loading that save after going through an area causes the two saves to merge

Combined token counts and apparently cutscenes too

Also holy fuck that beeping I need to fix my mic

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 12:42 PM

essentially it changes the level name and toa but combines seen cutscenes and token collection

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Apr-20 12:42 PM

Yeah

So that's pretty broken

As I said on stream, to quote a very popular song: Every day discovering something brand new

And also, I spawned OoB on three separate occasions, all out of a sliding level: Once in Gali's level (WTHK) Twice in Kopaka's (BRD2 and BRD4)

But hold on

Why did BRD3 spawn me inbounds in SHRN then?

Oh and also the token combining bug turned off the next level triggers for some fucked reason

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 12:48 PM

I think that's a result of loading from one level to another

notice how it also turned off the makoki stones

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Apr-20 12:48 PM

Yeah

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 12:48 PM

combining the saves combined save flags as well

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Apr-20 12:48 PM

Well, now the million dollar question: How in the everloving fuck did that thing in BOSS3 happen?

Since that's what started the whole thing and that's what I need to avoid

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 07:41 PM

It's not exactly the same, but I have a sort of replicable save corruption sort of thing

Quitting out of an area back to front end, quitting the game from there, and then reloading creates a corrupted save in slot 4, provided slot 4 was empty beforehand

--- AHA (edited)

I just got a new save to corrupt and I think I figured it out

The game is saving as soon as you quit

the moment the window closed, my new player3.sav file updated to lev0 area FRNT

replicated

that's it

ShadowDraikana 07-Apr-20 07:50 PM

i mean yeah

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 07:52 PM

But here's the thing

Before I quit from FREN, if I click "Play Game" first then go back and quit out, the game instead spits out a corrupted player4.sav and the save I was testing from is safe

That's something, right?

ShadowDraikana 07-Apr-20 07:54 PM

quit game shouldn't even be saving the area to begin with

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 07:55 PM

yes that's the key issue

ShadowDraikana 07-Apr-20 07:55 PM

like there's no target area

it's exiting the game entirely

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 07:55 PM

the strange thing is that it only saves once the window closes

It also doesn't corrupt if I just Alt+F4 the window

so something with the Quit specifically is causing the save to trigger (edited)

ShadowDraikana 07-Apr-20 08:07 PM

that

could be a problem with the global exit

think about this for a moment

the alpha dies when calling that

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 08:08 PM

~~I know, just force it to run an OSI error that shuts down the game~~

ShadowDraikana 07-Apr-20 08:32 PM

do me a favor

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 08:32 PM

Ye?

ShadowDraikana 07-Apr-20 08:32 PM

switch to shoefitter branch, retest all of this

quit does trigger an osi error there

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 08:32 PM

aight gimme a sec

ShadowDraikana 07-Apr-20 08:32 PM

i want to see if the corruptions happens there

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 08:38 PM

it did not

player1.sav is intact

I'll do it again to verify

yeah, no corruption

ShadowDraikana 07-Apr-20 08:40 PM

i need to dummy out part of a function

to further test this

@V A H K I T I @JrMasterModelBuilder you are needed

i've located the source of the save corruptions potentially but i need to dummy out a specific call within a function to prove or disprove this

basically

it straight up calls gcsaver when the game is exiting

so it's grabbing the area and level id

i need to dummy this out to see if the corruptions still happen or not and if any other side effects occur

GcGame::QuitGame is the function in question (edited)

V A H K I T I 07-Apr-20 09:48 PM

I'll give ya a hand with it tomorrow. Am super tired

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Apr-20 09:54 PM

oof

well hey

that's a step in the direction of fixing a major bug

V A H K I T I 12-Apr-20 05:21 PM

Alright so that's all done and wrapped up.

Was there ever a bug report on Github about this? I was going to go mark it as resolved and close it, but I can't seem to find one. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 12:40 PM

so idea

I've been semi-consistently getting the bug where you take the portal from SHRN2>TURA2 and you fall out of bounds

could it be the same issue we had in lev5 where the start point was too close to the ground, and it bugged out the spawn?

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 02:45 PM

do you warp to the coordinates 0/0/0

or just fall into the ground from the intended spawn position?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 02:46 PM

I spawn with the actual area to my direct left

not falling into the ground

I'll get coords in a sec

fixing bad item text wrapping rn

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 02:47 PM

that sort of thing usually happens when you spawn intersecting with an object's collision bounding box

is this rebuilt only or main as well?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 02:47 PM

I believe rebuilt only? It's been a hot minute since I've even played main

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 02:49 PM

main seems fine to me, time to get rebuilt up and running on this machine

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 02:50 PM

It's been inconsistent in the past so I'm not sure if you'll get it immediately

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) can vouch for that

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 02:50 PM

it might depend on the angle/velocity/etc you approach the portal in shrn from

some of that apparently carries over briefly while level loading

at least enough to affect this bug

I ran into something like that when playing with it in a test level

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 03:25 PM

.......... uuuuhhhhhhhh

Attachment: 2020-04-15-1225-55.mp4 (5.48 MB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 03:26 PM

wh

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 03:26 PM

it took me to tura as usual... the first time

and then

it just started doing this

what the actual fuck lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 03:27 PM

.-.

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 03:27 PM

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 15-Apr-20 03:30 PM

Ondrik can vouch for that

Aaah yes

I remember

being told "you didn't do the spawn points" - especially after the thing with SHRN5, where I legitimately made a mistake and it was shown on stream

But hey, it was a learning experience

I need to test the things I do

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 03:31 PM

And you've done very well at that since I might add.

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 03:32 PM

it's repeating consistently

dafuuuuuq

and it's only happening on gali's shrn/tura

you go to tura the first time

and every time after that just reloads shrn

??????

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 03:39 PM

@ShadowDraikana Portals are OSI controlled right?

ShadowDraikana 15-Apr-20 03:40 PM

yup

whats going on

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 03:40 PM

Basically

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 03:40 PM

lev2 portals borked somehow

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 03:40 PM

The portal in Gali's shrn only takes you to Tura once

Every other time you use it, it just reloads shrn

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 03:40 PM

at least on my end - reese is getting a different issue somehow

I've been semi-consistently getting the bug where you take the portal from SHRN2>TURA2 and you fall out of bounds

unsure if they're related somehow

ShadowDraikana 15-Apr-20 03:42 PM

check the spawns to make sure they arent inside of the portal collision

first and foremost

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 03:42 PM

that was my first guess

but it seems fine? at least on my end

ShadowDraikana 15-Apr-20 03:42 PM

that DID cause the lev5one to flip out

UTTER_BODGE 15-Apr-20 03:42 PM

it caused all of them to flip out in vanilla

bbl

oh btw this seems to be a rebuilt-only issue as far as I can tell

UTTER_BODGE 16-Apr-20 03:35 AM

ok got a real weird one

... it just got weirder, one sec

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-20 03:37 AM

.-.

UTTER_BODGE 16-Apr-20 03:42 AM

ok you're gonna wanna make sure you're watching at 60 FPS for this

and I think discord's embedded player sometimes limits things to 30 FPS so the problem may or may not be as visible

might have to download these clips?

the cursor working normally - lev4 strt, rebuilt:

Attachment: 2020-04-16-0042-14.mp4 (4.82 MB)

but on main - with the same level data:

(and any other variations of it I've tried, vanilla etc)

Attachment: 2020-04-16-0034-04.mp4 (5.86 MB)

and then there's tahu's level

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-20 03:44 AM

weird

UTTER_BODGE 16-Apr-20 03:44 AM

Attachment: 2020-04-16-0040-07.mp4 (6.6 MB)

where it's broken at first... and then promptly fixes itself?

that's tahu on main btw

the problem doesn't appear at all on tahu rebuilt

though you load into- wait lemme check

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-20 03:46 AM

Are the dgvoodoo versions between main and rebuilt the same?

We may have forgotten to update one or the other

UTTER_BODGE 16-Apr-20 03:46 AM

ok never mind tahu rebuilt is the same as main

the first area in tahu rebuilt is fine

then you go into the volcano

and it acts like the above video

ok yeah it fixes and then re-breaks itself in tahu's level... any time I go between the first 2 areas...???

does this happen for anyone else or is this some freak hardware thing

I thought it was flickering really fast

but nope

it only goes partially transparent

so never mind the framerate thing

dafuq

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-20 03:53 AM

I don't think it's going transparent, I think the sprite is fighting the particles for the top layer

UTTER_BODGE 16-Apr-20 03:54 AM

Attachment: 2020-04-16-0053-38.mp4 (4.68 MB)

maybe....?

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-20 03:54 AM

It's really hard to tell in Kopaka's level because the ground is very blue-ish

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 03:02 PM

new parts thing is cool

when dying the sword and shield do not disappear along with kopaka

ShadowDraikana 16-Apr-20 03:55 PM

oh thats nice

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-20 03:57 PM

I mean that's an easy fix

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 04:04 PM

this is the punishment i get for backtracking to the intro area, having to climb the unholy ledge grab tower again

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 04:29 PM

big thing for such small hill

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Apr-20 04:30 PM

i mean that's just how it be

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 04:30 PM

it really do be like that

time out time

hello stone

help a properly scaled version of that thing is after me in a still pose, and is unable to harm me

i'm gonna name him bob

sweet i got another sword

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Apr-20 04:35 PM

if you leave an area and come back the pickup model respawns

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 05:00 PM

please let me in

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Apr-20 05:00 PM

no

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 05:00 PM

nooooo

i was let in, then let out

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Apr-20 05:03 PM

wut

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 05:03 PM

i spawned underneath where i was supposed to be when transitioning

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Apr-20 05:05 PM

can you replicate that

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 05:08 PM

sure

i think i just got the printing element in the akaku puzzle

but it was invisible

oh wow it needs the akaku to be seen as well

fancy

i also need it to view the hail storm glyph apparently

and the doors that open upon getting them

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Apr-20 05:15 PM

No

The hail storm is visible by default, only becomes invisible by turning the akaku on and off again

And the print element isn't required

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 05:23 PM

i got the bug again, it's consistent with the transition

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Apr-20 05:23 PM

I didn't get it when i tested a minute ago

then again with this game you never know

sweg (Andrew) 16-Apr-20 05:37 PM

this always occurs for me when transitioning from BRD3 to SHRN

though loading the game afterward, i spawn in the right position

ShadowDraikana 16-Apr-20 06:41 PM

?????

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:41 AM

hey uh, is it just me or is the lewa axe/grapple pickup in le03 broken on main patch?

as in it floats there and doesn't spin or allow you to pick it up

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:42 AM

~~You're still at it? Go to bed~~

It shouldn't be, but that sounds like the item just straight up isn't scripted

What area is that in again?

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:42 AM

le03

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:43 AM

wtf

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:44 AM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/LOMN-Beta/commits/master/script/classes/le03_puzzle.lss so it's been broken for... about 3 months now? assuming the problem is here

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:44 AM

Question

WHat does your inventory say? Does it tell you that you already have it?

Oh wait

that's not in the inventory

fucc

okay

your save then

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:46 AM

it happens on a 100% fresh/empty/i-just-nuked-all-my-save-files save

warped directly from mtup to le03

so there's nothing that should be setting it as collected

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:47 AM

Well that's fucking weird, cause the code is there.

if (gcsaver::finditem(scslosifoundation::stringtoidentifier("axe1"))) { this.hook = new lego_pickup("axe1", 0, 3, "item", 9, 1); this.hook.initfull(); }

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:47 AM

sssshrug???

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:48 AM

And the code is identical in rebuilt

@ShadowDraikana Help. :v

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:50 AM

Attachment: 2020-04-18-0350-16.mp4 (4.82 MB)

i stand on axe

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:51 AM

:v

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:51 AM

i also sleep goodnight

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:51 AM

But yes I confirmed this, so yea. Idk what's up

Good morning

:p

ALso the issue is not present in rebuilt

but the code is the same.

The fuuuuuuuck?

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:52 AM

it's gotta be something somewhere else conflicting then, right?

(ok srsly i need bed aaAAA) (edited)

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:52 AM

aaaaaaaa

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:56 AM

I lied

not sleeping yet

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:56 AM

BOI

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:56 AM

okay your save then

loaded lewa's level/mtup, warped to le03, then went through the trigger to le02 to trigger a save

<?xml version="1.0"?> <save> <level>5</level> <area>le02</area> <position>str1</position> <look>lok1</look> <toa>lewa</toa> <mask>3</mask> <glyph>0</glyph> <health>140</health> <energy>140</energy> <tokens /> <masks /> <glyphs /> <inventory /> <cinematics> <cinematic id="cin1" /> </cinematics> <legacyconditionals>0</legacyconditionals> <conversations /> <times /> <quests /> <maskflags>0</maskflags> <glyph>0</glyph> <stone>0</stone> <hook>0</hook> <ammo>250</ammo> <intvalues /> <booleanvalues /> <floatvalues /> </save>

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:58 AM

Yep no hook

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:58 AM

yyyyeah

???

idk how it's supposed to work

so uh

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 06:59 AM

I mean all it really does is render the object as a pickup if a save condition has not been met

There IS a bug with the items REappearing if you pick them up, leave, then come back, but this is new

It's just lewa's grapple?

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 06:59 AM

yeah

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 07:00 AM

Huh

~~Good thing we haven't released a patch since August I guess~~

~~Either that or people were too busy playing Rebuilt to notice~~

~~Which is also good~~

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 07:01 AM

I should clarify - as far as grapples go, and masks for that matter, it's just lewa's grapple, but I haven't looked at all the quest items (fuck if I know where some of them even are lol)

ShadowDraikana 18-Apr-20 07:31 AM

@V A H K I T I @UTTER_BODGE I've told y'all for months the function is broken in better saver (edited)

ShadowDraikana 18-Apr-20 08:07 AM

it aint new and its specific to bettersaver. add bettersaver into the alpha and all items break in the same manned ftr

Here its just whatever uses finditem thats borked

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 03:05 PM

????

But it's fine in rebuilt

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:05 PM

what is?

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 03:06 PM

The broken grapple in le03 main

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:06 PM

it respawning on reentering the area

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 03:06 PM

No, it's just not functioning as a pickup ever

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:06 PM

oh

ShadowDraikana 18-Apr-20 03:07 PM

dude

it's everything that uses this function that does this

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:07 PM

nno

ShadowDraikana 18-Apr-20 03:07 PM

i've told you this before

yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:08 PM

I think you're misunderstanding what the bug reported here is

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 03:08 PM

The bug isn't that things reappear, the bug is that in main only, the grapple in le03 does not spawn as an item

It's just a static object

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:08 PM

This isn't the re-entry bug

ShadowDraikana 18-Apr-20 03:08 PM

oh

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 03:08 PM

Jesus

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:08 PM

the hook isn't spawning as an item period in main

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 03:08 PM

~~Try reading the whole thread next time~~

Anyways yes

This is main only for some reason

Despite the code being identical

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:09 PM

100% identical? Huh.

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 03:09 PM

Aside from the settohunga code, yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:09 PM

Is bettersaver different between builds?

V A H K I T I 18-Apr-20 03:09 PM

Shouldn't be

I just updated it myself after adding in the savegame stuff

And if that wasn't present, it would be shutting down for James.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:10 PM

yeah

bizarre

UTTER_BODGE 18-Apr-20 04:54 PM

am I like... one of the only people who actually makes an effort to read things that happen while I'm away lol

like yeah sometimes if it's literally like 500 messages I'll skim it but

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 04:23 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) Question. During the last speedrun, you had the game bug out after leaving WTHK and you spawned out of bounds, correct?

That just happened to me in rebuilt from wthk to gly1

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Apr-20 08:32 PM

yeah

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 08:35 PM

~~Fucking WTHK am I right?~~

~~WTHK caused Coronavirus, calling it now~~

POYO 23-Apr-20 12:25 PM

Ah yes

Bug

Crash

Noice

Oh ok

I found in the pins

V A H K I T I 23-Apr-20 03:56 PM

@UTTER_BODGE Got another minor fix for ya

Rebuilt Onua BECH trees still lack collision apparently (edited)

I swear we fixed that at some point but

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 04:03 PM

yeah that's in BECH2 as well

and I think maybe BMTN

UTTER_BODGE 23-Apr-20 04:06 PM

mkay

POYO 26-Apr-20 05:05 PM

Okay so i don't know if this is bug or not but like

When i complete level 7(makuta) as a Tahu

There's just cutscene and that's all

Is that normal?

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Apr-20 05:05 PM

yes

POYO 26-Apr-20 05:05 PM

Oh ok

So there's no Makuta boss fight or something like that

The Cap'm (Reese) 26-Apr-20 05:06 PM

Not yet, no.

POYO 26-Apr-20 05:06 PM

Oh ok then

Thx

bcktanRky 28-Apr-20 02:44 AM

I'm having trouble with level 2 when Gali gets to the really dark huge underwater cave the game starts to lag and then just freezes. Anyone else have this problem?

VENOM 28-Apr-20 08:49 AM

my saves got currupted how do i use the pined fix?

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 08:52 AM

Did you read the readme that's clearly visible in the zip as well as mentioned in the download? :v

VENOM 28-Apr-20 08:52 AM

if you mean from the githubs fix not as i could not find the download link for it. i always get lost in github

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 08:53 AM

You're talking about the pinned saves in this channel, yes?

VENOM 28-Apr-20 08:54 AM

no not this one sorry for the confusion. https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/LOMN-Beta/commit/7435941aaef4bb936769f9b722185d6fc9a85f55

Save Corruption Fix · TheLegendOfMataNui/LOMN-Beta@7435941

Nopped out native code that saves game in Frontend, resulting in bad saves Update Better Saver to allow save game calls directly from the OSI Update pause screen to force save game on quit

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 08:55 AM

That is neither a directly downloadable fix, nor a resolution for existing corrupted saves. If you want to use that, you'll have to clone and build the game yourself, or otherwise wait until the next patch.

VENOM 28-Apr-20 08:56 AM

ah i see, so its not relesed yet in the main rebuilt?

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 08:56 AM

no

VENOM 28-Apr-20 08:56 AM

ok ty

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 08:56 AM

No worries. Sorry for the confusion.

VENOM 28-Apr-20 08:57 AM

im no programer so when i browse on githubs its like walking in the jungle

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 08:57 AM

fair :p

perxenic.acid 29-Apr-20 03:05 PM

Help! I can't run BIONICLE legend of Mata Nui and I'm running it as an administrator with windows XP compatibility settings.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:05 PM

Are you running the vanilla version or do you have the patches installed?

perxenic.acid 29-Apr-20 03:07 PM

The one with the patches.

Btw I'm using windows 8.1 (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:10 PM

I'm sorry, I can't help you right now

ShadowDraikana 30-Apr-20 09:04 AM

are you running the launcher in windows xp.compat mode? dont do that if you are

sweg (Andrew) 02-May-20 10:55 PM

i swear tahu runs faster when going backwards

trying to record it without the framerate going to 30 fps afterward

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-May-20 10:57 PM

I mean, maybe.

sweg (Andrew) 02-May-20 11:00 PM

~~never mind it turns out i'm just being dumb :p~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-May-20 12:52 PM

...since when does this happen?

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-May-20 07:31 PM

THIS LITTLE SHIT JUST SPUN UP THE WALL TO ATTACK ME

V A H K I T I 07-May-20 07:32 PM

S P E E N

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-May-20 07:33 PM

He speened so good he ascended the wall

And ambushed me

sweg (Andrew) 08-May-20 12:11 AM

the legend FMV that plays after onu-koro has a few bits where the audio has noticeable crackling, that strangely isn't heard when playing the FMV outside of LOMN

sweg (Andrew) 08-May-20 01:01 AM

there's a hole in ROLL that you can get stuck inside

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-May-20 01:01 AM

yeah, I noted that a while ago

and nothing has been done :v

sweg (Andrew) 08-May-20 01:03 AM

~~onua will be eternally stuck in a hole behind these rocks until it is fixed~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-May-20 01:03 AM

There's supposed to be a killbox

sweg (Andrew) 08-May-20 01:04 AM

also he really do be levitatin a bit when rolling

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-May-20 01:04 AM

yeah that can't be helped atm

afaik

sweg (Andrew) 08-May-20 01:19 AM

gali seems to be floating above the ground slightly

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 06:29 AM

Where is this hole?

sweg (Andrew) 08-May-20 11:17 AM

right behind the rocks in an earlier screenshot

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 11:18 AM

Are you backtracking to get in there?

sweg (Andrew) 08-May-20 11:22 AM

I did a few times

the first time by accident

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 11:23 AM

And there's no killbox there? I'll have to look into that after I'm done here

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-May-20 11:23 AM

no there is not

I reported this months ago and nobody did anything about it

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 11:24 AM

Did you make an issue and/or a trello card?

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-May-20 11:25 AM

no, because I recall someone saying they'd look into it and nothing else happened

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 11:25 AM

:v

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 12:15 PM

Is this the problem area?

@The Cap'm (Reese)

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-May-20 12:17 PM

yes

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 12:17 PM

No?

Wait

I have an old model in here don't I?

Yep, old model

That explains it

This should work. Just shhifted around the existing killboxes

Pushed. GIve that a try

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-May-20 12:24 PM

Gimme a sec

The Cap'm (Reese) 08-May-20 12:36 PM

works

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 12:36 PM

nice

sweg (Andrew) 08-May-20 05:38 PM

~~you're a wizard tahu~~

sweg (Andrew) 10-May-20 12:46 AM

this tree in BMTN do be floatin tho

sweg (Andrew) 10-May-20 01:01 AM

broke the dance cutscene by using grapple before starting, not sure if known

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-May-20 01:01 AM

known

issue with the grapple in general, not just dance

sweg (Andrew) 10-May-20 01:04 AM

understood

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:17 AM

That reminds me though, I have to remove the handheld items from the Takara

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:32 AM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) You're online, remind me of something:

All the Takaras teleport you out of the area when they're done, yes?

As long as they do that, I can get away with just having single, unconditional removepart calls when the cutscene fires.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 10-May-20 08:40 AM

I don't think so

I remember there was a hassle with me setting up the spawn points and just repeating "I can't do that if the cutscene warps"

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:41 AM

Remind me what that was again?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 10-May-20 08:41 AM

Well, I kept getting told that the spawn points were wrong

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:41 AM

You mean the spot it places you after the cutscene?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 10-May-20 08:41 AM

yeah

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:41 AM

Why des that matter if it warps?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 10-May-20 08:42 AM

I couldn't place those spawns if the cutscene warped

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:42 AM

.-.

Huh

@ShadowDraikana Question

Why is the code for Onu-Koro's CIN2 in the area class?

Alright so all the takara do in fact warp to Tura on completion.

So this should be simple enough to do

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 08:53 AM

onu-koro's code is a mess

a LOT of it by default was shoved into the area class

and some of it went screwy when i tried moving it over

if it can be relocated safely (which i can handle) it does not need to be there

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:55 AM

Aight, I'll leave that to you then

For now I'll just focus on my thing

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 08:56 AM

Well, I kept getting told that the spawn points were wrong because they were?

and that wasn't an issue at all because it's easy shit to disable the warp. and i did all that iirc

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:58 AM

Also one thing I recommend highly if we do a code overhaul of villages...

Ffs give the Tohunga proper, unique variable names.

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 08:58 AM

???

like a different var for each one?

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:59 AM

Yes

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 08:59 AM

bruh

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 08:59 AM

Having it constantly reset the definition of var1 in initfull just looks messy as shit when we can have all that in one spot and call it later without having to define it again

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 08:59 AM

again, bruh

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:00 AM

To do what I need to do with the takara I need to tell it what villagers have what equipment again

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:00 AM

until we deal with the memory leak we will have serious problems with this

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:00 AM

?

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:00 AM

there's a memory leak

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:00 AM

There is?

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:00 AM

has nobody remembered me jumping up and down about this before

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:00 AM

?????

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:00 AM

boot game. open task manager. watch memory size continue to grow and never shrink

after unloading an area it never clears out some stuff in memory

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:01 AM

Just boot the game or actually play it?

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:01 AM

technically play it

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:01 AM

Cause I've left the game running in single areas for several hours

And never seen this

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:01 AM

the issue is

villages massively increase memory usage

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:02 AM

Well duh. :p

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:02 AM

and never does it go back down even after leaving

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:02 AM

Hmm

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:02 AM

memory size shrinks by a fraction of what it grew by

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:02 AM

Is it something WE'RE not cleaning up right?

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:02 AM

hell if i know, this is present in vanilla

and remember vars can't be cleaned. the game does that on its own when the method exits

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:03 AM

That tiny bump is me warping to vllg

Then back to bech

Seems to go down just fine for me

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:04 AM

never once been the case for me on three different machines

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:04 AM

Different OS on each?

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:04 AM

win7 on two, ~~modified~~ win10 on this one

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:04 AM

Hmm

Okay well I'll take your word for it at the moment, but I think this requires more confirmation.

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:05 AM

most likely

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:05 AM

As for the villages, what if we used properties instead of variables?

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:05 AM

that... isn't a good idea unless we plan on referencing those properties in different methods

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:05 AM

Cause again, I'm here removing parts for the cutscene event, and I have to redefine all these villagers again

Cause they're all not only only defined as variables in initfull, but at that, only one is ever defined at a time

So yes, that is the plan

Cause I need to reference them again here in onevent

~~It would also help in figuring out who's who in the code~~

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:07 AM

...remind me why you even need to be specifying the matoran again in the cutscene

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:07 AM

Because the added equipment looks dumb animated in the dance

I need to remove the stuff from their hands

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:08 AM

as long as you aren't like, defining colors again that will work :P

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:09 AM

I mean yeah, I know how to do it, and relatively easily. I'm just making a case here for redefining how Matoran are handled since it bloats out the code to have to redefine all these more than once. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:09 AM

keep in mind we didn't have a need at the time

so it wasn't bloat

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:09 AM

Other than setting it and then frgetting what call defines what guy

:p

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:10 AM

in fact doing it the other way would have BEEN bloat to use properties when there was no point at that time

now that we have an actual reason to

it's not

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:10 AM

Right now I only have a vague idea of who I'm editing and when based on saver booleans and mask IDs

It's trial and error

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:11 AM

i'm not arguing that point, i'm just saying why it was done the way it was originally

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:11 AM

At the very least we should have comments

Showing who is who

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:11 AM

i did at one point

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:11 AM

I assume commit issues or something reverted it?

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:12 AM

pretty much

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:12 AM

Oof. Well anyways I'll let you get back to the doors since it looks like that's what you're working on. I'll see if I can rejigger the Onu-Matoran into properties while I'm in here.

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:13 AM

shouldn't be hard

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:13 AM

Just gonna test with one to start since I'm not sure if addpart can even reference a property

Or settohunga for that matter

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:13 AM

just add properties and swap the var out for it

yeah fair point

actually it should

shouldn't matter if it's accessing a var or a property

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:14 AM

All the same, I'm just gonna try one to start.

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:14 AM

ye

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:14 AM

If it works, then I gotta find Reese's list of names.

Should probably compile a photo database of them while I'm at it just so I don't need to ask about names I'm unfamiliar with in the future.

Matoran like Taipu and Nuparu are easy, but I'm unfamiliar with a lot of the background characters introduced in MNOG II

The only ones I really remember are Damek and Kaj.

Roblord 10-May-20 09:16 AM

~~For obvious reasons~~

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:16 AM

:p

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:30 AM

tree boi should just be named boi

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:30 AM

:v

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:30 AM

correction

dat_boi (edited)

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:30 AM

Adding in comments and spacing here as well btw, just to make it easier to read

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 09:30 AM

nice

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 09:31 AM

When I'm done I'll have to remember to send it to you to check memory usage.

If I'm right about properties being cleaned up manually working over the automatic variable cleanup, this SHOULD circumvent the memory leak

Cause if properties WEREN'T being cleaned up properly, I guarantee you shit would be dying a lot more than it is for you right now. :p

Just the player class alone has like.. 20 different properties.

sweg (Andrew) 10-May-20 01:19 PM

the amana volo doesn't seem to show up after giving thali whali back to the owner

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 01:22 PM

Property reference mistake. Fixed and pushed.

@ShadowDraikana BMTN has been refactored similarly to VLLG now since I had to set things here anyways.

Merged the door open method into the event block as well. method onevent(param1) {

if (param1.eventid == 41) { if (bettersaver::getbooleanvalue(37)) { //Amaya Quest Complete var x; var y; var z; x = this.door.getx(); y = this.door.gety() + 9.0; z = this.door.getz(); this.door.interpolate(x, y, z, 1.5); if (this.upgradefruit3_shown == 0) { this.upgradefruit3.obj.setpos(-186.008331, 126.112579, -309.441010); this.upgradefruit3_shown = 1; } this.gatestone.show(); } }

(edited)

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 01:26 PM

why is the gatestone show there

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 01:26 PM

Remember what I'm doing? :p

This all started because I'm having returned quest items appear on or around the person you return them to

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 01:27 PM

ye but where would the stone be

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 01:27 PM

Right now it's in a temporary location next to the gate (edited)

It'll be moved to something like the MNOG scales after BMTN is revamped.

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 01:28 PM

aight

code is good btw

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 01:28 PM

I just wanted to get it coded now so we don't have to worry about it later

Thank

Thoughts on my dumb idea for mosh6 btw? :p

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 01:44 PM

remind me again what that was

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 01:44 PM

.....Dumb idea I wonder if I could refactor Lev6/mosh using a similar method to what I did with well Ie: parenting the class to lev6/vllg. :Pac: If it works, I could get away with redefining a lot fewer things. And just call the parent class

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 01:45 PM

no

because it's a different area entirely

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-May-20 02:21 PM

So to append sweg's earlier issue

with the amana volo sphere (edited)

yeah that's still broken

You only get the upgrade from the first person you talk to

and giving it to Nuparu gave Taipu both his sash and pick

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 02:22 PM

???

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-May-20 02:23 PM

nix the pick part of that last statement, but otherwise

only the first quest you complete actually gives you the upgrade

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 02:25 PM

Well that much I think I can put down to more property errors I missed

One sec

Ye, that's fixed now

The equipment bug on the other hand I need to look at

Oh pff

That's why

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-May-20 02:27 PM

:v

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 02:27 PM

I set them both up to equip taipu (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-May-20 02:27 PM

lol

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 02:28 PM

I know what happened here too. When I had to revert the removal of the extra fruit properties, I just copy pasted one block and in my rush for lunch forgot to change some of the values around. :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-May-20 02:28 PM

oof

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 02:29 PM

Pushed. Try now

The Cap'm (Reese) 10-May-20 02:30 PM

there we go

all good now

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 02:30 PM

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 04:29 PM

@ShadowDraikana Add Lev3/Gly3 to the list of areas with quit shutdowns

TA05 was another

ShadowDraikana 10-May-20 04:37 PM

no shit on ta05 lol

have you seen the way it was written

it's a train wreck

V A H K I T I 10-May-20 04:38 PM

Aside from what was relevant to my adventures in WELL, I didn't pay much attention.

.(call me Pixy) 11-May-20 01:18 PM

I think I found a bug in the beta build were if press the P key it crashes

after fighting nui jaga

in onu koro

.(call me Pixy) 11-May-20 02:09 PM

(didn't lose progress ) (edited)

.(call me Pixy) 11-May-20 08:25 PM

btw you can't use the grapple hook in water (it causes crash) (edited)

.(call me Pixy) 11-May-20 10:33 PM

I can't pick up pohatus glyph for some reason.

in rebuild

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 08:29 PM

crab in the water, what will it do

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 08:29 PM

~~Where does he go? What does he do?~~

~~Does he hope he's too small, too poor a haul, and end up being thrown back in the sea?~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 08:30 PM

i have saved the crab from eternal suffering

by dive headbutting it

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 08:31 PM

Are we able to add things to the soundtrable yet?

I feel like somebody at some point had an editor

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 08:31 PM

trable

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 08:31 PM

boi

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 08:32 PM

~~whydyouleavethekeysuponthetrable~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 08:59 PM

flying fishe : (

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 08:59 PM

Yes.

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 08:59 PM

but i no want flying fishe

they is scarey

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 09:00 PM

Well that's tough :p

~~in order to make them not fly we need to do shit we don't know how to do right now~~

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 09:00 PM

I mean

I have IDEAS on how they can work

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 09:01 PM

I know I or someone else suggested not letting Rahi flagged to fly pass through water models

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 09:08 PM

mmm something about GLY1 does not like me killing the rahi, as the game crashes a few seconds after killing at least one rahi

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 09:09 PM

yeah they're OSI coded

since there's no benign rahi in the game now, it flips out when they die

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 09:10 PM

Ah this is an alpha area, yes?

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 09:10 PM

it is

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 09:10 PM

yes

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 09:10 PM

I see

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:10 PM

when transitioning from GLY1 or GLY2 to SHRN, the exit door doesn't open until you backtrack to whichever GLY you came out of, then go back into SHRN again

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:10 PM

I may have been a bit hasty in nuking those extra lines then. I'll fix that up in the morning

Though there's really no reason that can't be internal.

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:11 PM

...I asked if that affected the doors

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:11 PM

I said it shouldn't

Not that it didn't

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:11 PM

well that's why you check

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:11 PM

~~That's your job~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:12 PM

Sorry that I assumed you checked when I asked "does it affect the doors" and you gave what amounts to a no

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:12 PM

All joking aside, you will straight up never be at those starting points if you're NOT re-entering the stage from those levels.

Which is the point where they should open anyways

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:12 PM

yes

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:12 PM

So I should just be able to hook that into the same events I have the water stuff do

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:13 PM

~~it is now time for me to do a checkup on how kevin's doing~~

~~i fear for his sanity from being inside a dark cave for all eternity with no escape~~

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:14 PM

~~Don't worry, he has a vacation tank in Onu-Wahi's sky test lab~~

(edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:15 PM

Don't you worry

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:15 PM

where kevin be

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:15 PM

Kevin has night vision

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:15 PM

this is not kevin

i must find kevin

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:16 PM

You have the Ruru

and if you can't find him, he'll find you

He loves hugs

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:16 PM

kevin :>

he do be givin a good speen tho

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:17 PM

He's also a big Vinny fan

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:18 PM

ow kevin stop that hurts

kevin no biting

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:19 PM

Yeah that's the thing

His hitbox processes fine when Gali attacks

But not when she's in her defaul swimming loop

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:20 PM

His favorite band is Red Vox

and I gave him underwater speakers for his room so he can listen

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:23 PM

is nice : )

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 11:21 PM

very minor bug, but po-koro's destroyed bat hives lack an interior or backface culling

ShadowDraikana 13-May-20 09:08 AM

yeah i just slapped that in and gave no fucks at the time since i figured it'd need to be cleaned up later anyway (the model)

sweg (Andrew) 13-May-20 02:03 PM

damn you tokens, why must you be on a non-ledge grabbable cliff

sweg (Andrew) 13-May-20 02:12 PM

what hath the stone penguin become

Roblord 13-May-20 02:12 PM

It has clearly become a ivuhehurgihweudjbdvishkdoadsmwbiucrvbiwb

~~Actual name of that amalgamation, Gandhi named it~~

V A H K I T I 13-May-20 02:25 PM

Didn't realize I pushed that. I should probably figure out WHY the morphs on his new model don't work right aside from the merging issue

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-20 02:25 PM

bruh that's been pushed since it was made

V A H K I T I 13-May-20 02:33 PM

Pushed the partial fix

@UTTER_BODGE seems to know more about morph stuff. Maybe he could have a look at the models when he's free?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-May-20 03:06 PM

I'm not adding the updated model to the patch notes until we fix the issue, just in case we revert it for 1.1

UTTER_BODGE 13-May-20 03:20 PM

I've never touched it in this game specifically

just know the basic idea behind how it theoretically works

V A H K I T I 13-May-20 03:52 PM

All the same your input would be appreciated

If there's something obvious with the models for instance

sweg (Andrew) 13-May-20 05:20 PM

stone penguin now seems to have half of their orange circle covered in noise

V A H K I T I 13-May-20 06:45 PM

That's... Not something I did

sweg (Andrew) 14-May-20 02:02 AM

kapura really do be practicing his special ability tho

nevermind

sweg (Andrew) 14-May-20 02:26 AM

scorpion speeeeeeen

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V A H K I T I 14-May-20 10:33 AM

Ah fuck, we really need to figure out that raycast distance for entity dropping.

@UTTER_BODGE What was the exact function for that again? I'll deal with that today.

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-20 04:29 PM

no idea whatsoever

V A H K I T I 14-May-20 04:30 PM

You looked into it at one point similarly to how you looked into item snapping IIRC

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-20 04:33 PM

I didn't

V A H K I T I 14-May-20 04:34 PM

.-.

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-20 04:34 PM

we talked about doing some stuff like that in the test area

never actually happened

i.e. putting in pits of different heights and seeing when they stop falling in

V A H K I T I 14-May-20 04:34 PM

I mean

That DID actually happen

:p

UTTER_BODGE 14-May-20 04:35 PM

I wasn't involved then lol (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-May-20 04:35 PM

I didn't establish the exact values, but there is definitely a point somewhere around approximately 30 feet where they stop avoiding the edge

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 04:35 PM

Getting unhandled exception error and the game crashes when I try to enter the tunnel right after fighting the giant scorpion. I'm running the beta version.

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-May-20 04:37 PM

A) What's the crash address? B) Does this happen still when you load your save file?

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 04:50 PM

Yes, but after loading again it loaded an earlier save.

Seemingly.

Was strange.

It's intermittent.

And I read somewhere you can use the debug menu to get around it get to the next area/level, but even though I put the right command in the .ini file the debug menu won't appear when I hit the delete key.

There just simply is no debug menu.

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 04:52 PM

are you running the game and the text editor as admin?

if not, it's probably reading from a copy in the virtualstore rather than what you're editing

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 04:53 PM

Ok this time it won't go away.

I mean the error.

I am running the game in admin.

It's not in the virtual store.

It's on my hard drive.

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 04:54 PM

the virtualstore is a folder on your hard drive

things in particular locations get redirected there when not running as admin

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 04:55 PM

No I'm running the files from the folder they were installed in not the virtualstore.

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 04:56 PM

I am running the game in admin.

as in, you're specifically right clicking it and running as admin, or specifically ticked the check box for it in the program's compatibility options?

if not, it'd be using the virtualstore

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 05:01 PM

I just tried what you said.

It makes no difference.

Same exception error.

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 05:01 PM

I'm talking about loading the correct ini file for the debug menu

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 05:02 PM

There is only one.

I put the line there.

Used notepad in admin mode, but it doesn't see it.

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 05:02 PM

the one it'd be loading is in an entirely different folder, you wouldn't see it

that's what the virtualstore is

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 05:02 PM

Anyways even if I wanted to load the game the save gives me unhandled exception every single time.

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 05:03 PM

the game goes "load this ini here" and windows hands it an (unedited) duplicate from the virtualstore

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 05:03 PM

I don't know how to use Python. This is ridiculous for the game to be in tatters like this.

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 05:03 PM

it's almost like it was canceled or something (edited)

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 05:03 PM

I can show you a screenshot of the edited ini file.

It's saved in the game's folder not the virtual store.

lol

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 05:04 PM

you're completely misunderstanding how the virtualstore works

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 05:04 PM

But the game won't load the save anymore.

No I'm not.

I'm not stupid.

I used admin mode in Notepad to edit the ini file.

UTTER_BODGE 15-May-20 05:04 PM

I can show you a screenshot of the edited ini file. It's saved in the game's folder not the virtual store.

this is entirely correct and the game will not use that file if you're not running it as admin

it will not use the file saved in the game's folder

it uses an entirely different one

located 100% elsewhere

without running the game specifically as admin, the edits to your ini in the game's folder make absolutely no difference

that's just how modern windows works and it's generally annoying for old games like this that just saved stuff directly in program files

V A H K I T I 15-May-20 05:10 PM

I'm not stupid.

M8 you've been on here for the last 3 hours asking for us to hold your hand for the simplest tasks, and then complained that a game that was a cancelled, unfinished product from 20 years ago that even now is very clearly unfinished is "in tatters." If y'all ain't stupid, you're just ignorant.

I don't often make a point of calling somebody out when they ask for things here, even under the dumbest of circumstances, but jesus fucking christ dude.

Are you 12? Because you're acting like you are 12. Actually I've known 12 year olds that have acted better. (edited)

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 06:25 PM

I'm not gonna dignify that with response.

This is where I remove all your software from my PC.

And block and ban you.

V A H K I T I 15-May-20 06:26 PM

Ah yes

Ban me from my own server

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 06:26 PM

I don't have to deal with this rudeness!

V A H K I T I 15-May-20 06:26 PM

You do that.

(edited)

Kyle_Katarn33 15-May-20 06:26 PM

No block you on my end.

V A H K I T I 15-May-20 06:27 PM

I mean you still said ban, but you do as you like. Hell, the base game isn't even our software, so you're only shooting yourself in the foot with that one.

Zach the DualVission 15-May-20 11:46 PM

Not sure if this is related, but I've had no issues with OBS otherwise. Yesterday, OBS kept crashing. Only difference I could see was playing LOMN. GPU, CPU, or RAM didn't cap out at all.

Zach the DualVission 16-May-20 01:54 AM

I think i figured it out, something to do with DirectX

Zach the DualVission 16-May-20 03:40 AM

Also, odd thing, when a Toa begins to drown, it displays the last displayed dialogue until you talk with another character.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-May-20 09:52 AM

yes

that's known

it's best when it says "Goodbye, Gali!"

V A H K I T I 16-May-20 10:11 AM

@ShadowDraikana Is presently working on redoing the drowning mechanic entirely, so while this won't fix the issue for the beta, it'll fix it for Rebuilt by way of ignoring the original function entirely. :p

sweg (Andrew) 16-May-20 02:06 PM

this bug vibin hard

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sweg (Andrew) 16-May-20 06:04 PM

oh god

flying speen scorpions

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-May-20 06:04 PM

?

sweg (Andrew) 16-May-20 06:06 PM

https://youtu.be/rqcnrcr8mSI

Andrew Kahle

LOMN Po-Koro Flying Spinning Scorpion

speen

it has evolved

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-May-20 06:07 PM

he doesn't look green

Oh speen

I can't read

Still, I had something like that happen in L1A1 a few days ago

fleeing rahi spinning up the walls

sweg (Andrew) 16-May-20 06:10 PM

to reproduce, just kick a rahi to death and then kick it after it respawns

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-May-20 06:11 PM

so it's just Pohatu's normal kick stuff

sweg (Andrew) 16-May-20 06:11 PM

pretty much

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-May-20 06:11 PM

There's a reason we need another invisible wall in the rahi area of mtup3

you can kick the scorpo boi you need to kill over a wall

and then you're just fucked

V A H K I T I 17-May-20 10:23 AM

I mean

Rather than throwing invisible walls everywhere, now would be as good a time as any I guess for me to make that gs_lego_rahi class to make them obey stage hazards and shit

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-May-20 10:28 AM

i mean I don't know how that would help in MTUP3

V A H K I T I 17-May-20 10:31 AM

Well we just add a larger killbox under the stage

Cause like... you have to admit it's much more fun to YEET rahi over the fucking mountains than it is to kill them normally

:p

Having that ability not bite you in the ass just makes sense.

~~If it's not fun, why bother?~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-May-20 12:25 PM

Just did a full run of lev1 and got the getleaf crash on exit. Not that this is new, but here's something mildly interesting: mudman's death noise (or one of his roar noises, not sure which) played as soon as I hit the exit trigger and the game crashed

V A H K I T I 23-May-20 12:26 PM

.-.

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-May-20 12:26 PM

so that was something

V A H K I T I 23-May-20 12:39 PM

It's probably an overlap in the events I hijacked to play the sounds.

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-May-20 12:39 PM

well it didn't happen when I reloaded and beat him again

V A H K I T I 23-May-20 12:39 PM

The mud elemental has different states which each have an associated event.

Oh

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-May-20 12:39 PM

or the time after

only the time where the getleaf crash triggered

ShadowDraikana 24-May-20 08:00 AM

hmmmmmmm

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 24-May-20 05:13 PM

Ga koro keeps crashing on me

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-May-20 05:13 PM

How so

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 24-May-20 05:19 PM

It will randomly stop working like ill die and itll say unauthorized acception

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-May-20 05:20 PM

It's completely random? Doesn't happen in any particular place?

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 24-May-20 05:22 PM

Its when i die usually by drowning or just shooting my grappling hook while in water

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-May-20 05:23 PM

Yeah, the game kinda flips out when either of that happens

V A H K I T I 24-May-20 05:23 PM

@ShadowDraikana Was the grapple not fixed?

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 24-May-20 05:23 PM

And sometimes by just leaving the area

V A H K I T I 24-May-20 05:23 PM

Or is that an upcoming change

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-May-20 05:24 PM

The grapple in water? We still have no clue why that happens

And yeah, both of those are very well known issues

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 24-May-20 05:26 PM

And now im trying to reload the game bc it crashed when i tried to go to the starting area of ga koro and it keeps crashing

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-May-20 05:29 PM

What cave did you exit Ga-Koro from

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 24-May-20 05:37 PM

Well i fixed it but it was the one with the 2 guards in front of it

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-May-20 05:38 PM

That's STRT. Known issue that won't be present in the next Rebuilt patch.

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 24-May-20 05:41 PM

Oh kk

Its also happening when entering the water slide

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-May-20 05:42 PM

Also known. That one we've not looked into, though I suspect it could be solved by running the model through Maya

Glitchipedia 26-May-20 12:12 AM

I'm not sure if this counts as a bug, but I'm having a really annoying problem where my antivirus keeps deleting DLL files required to run the game, even after I've marked them as trusted programs. I really don't want to have to turn it off just to play one game, especially since I have yet to upgrade to Windows 10.

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 27-May-20 02:29 PM

Okay so im at the first gali underwater combat section and for some reason it keeps crashing. Either when i drown or randomly when i just shoot

As a result i cant get past that part

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 03:53 PM

This is known and will be fixed in the next patch probably. The best thing I can suggest unfortunately is just to not drown, or spend too long inside the bubbles.

The issue is to do with too many particles overloading the engine.

@TAKUUUUAAAA~!

@Glitchipedia This is unfortunately an unavoidable issue to do with the way the game is modded at present, and your PC's reaction to it is entirely dependent on your antivirus. (edited)

TAKUUUUAAAA~! 27-May-20 06:33 PM

Oh kk thnx

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:07 PM

Hi! I'm having trouble with the Rebuilt version of Bionicle the Legend of Mata Nui. Is this the place to get help?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:08 PM

It is! You'd be one of the first to actually come to the right channel before posting in Beaverhouse General or something, so I applaud you for that. What ya need friend?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:09 PM

Well, I'm having quite a lot of problems with stability. I've been trying to play through the various levels, but they all seem to crash at different points for me without much reason that I can see. (I can detail where they crash if you'd like). I do have the launcher installed, and I'm running the Rebuilt exe with Windows XP Service Pack 2 compatibility settings

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:10 PM

Crashing is not uncommon. It is a work in progress of a cancelled beta after all. I will be needing specifics at any rate to let you know if any have been fixed in upcoming patches or not.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:13 PM

Sometimes I get errors (like for instance "Unhandled exception c00000005 At address: 00657771"), sometimes it's without warning. So it crashes in the following places: Crashes straight away on the game start, at the start of the Pohatu mission, and at the start of mission 7; Onua crashes after the second area (where you dig out that wall for the first time); Gali crashes after the opening cinematic with Onua; Tahu crashes when you enter the first tunnel. I don't remember where Lewa crashed (I'll check quickly), and on Kopaka's mission I didn't experience a crash, but my game stopped responding when I fell into a pit

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:14 PM

Damn, out of all those crashes, I'm shocked you DIDN'T get any for Kopaka. His level is the least stable of all of them.

Anyways, the crashes on entering new levels are somewhat common I believe. (Correct me if I'm wrong @The Cap'm (Reese)), and I think at least a couple of them will be fixed in the next patch.

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-20 08:15 PM

Fixed I don't know

Getting the GetLeaf crash on level transition is a known bug though

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:16 PM

Gotcha. Good to hear that this is a common thing at least

Ah, I remember what happened with Lewa. I couldn't figure out where to go so I just quit the level

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:17 PM

The specific address you reported seems to be something to do with memory, so perhaps the result of a memory leak? I'll be honest, I don't recall ever seeing this one before personally.

If it happens again, check your memory usage for me.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:17 PM

That happened when I tried to load the opening part

How would I go about doing that?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:18 PM

As in the main menu, or Onua's beach?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:18 PM

"Front end"

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:18 PM

Huh. Yeah I've never seen a crash like that in Frontend before.

As for the memory, if you're running Windows 10, you can check it in your task manager

You can check it there in 7 or 8 as well, but you won't get as many details (edited)

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:19 PM

I'll look

It was using about 50% GPU and 25% CPU, but the Memory wasn't that massive, and it didn't seem to spike or anything when I loaded Front End. It was using about 80 MB, a little more than task manager (it doesn't show percentages per program, just MB counts)

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:23 PM

It'll show you percentages if you go into the performance tab

Unless you're not running Win10

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:24 PM

Ah, I wasn't aware of that

I am on Windows 10

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:24 PM

But I'll take your word for it that it doesn't spike

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:24 PM

I can check again quickly

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:24 PM

I'm not sure what might be up there.

If you like.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:26 PM

No spike. That dialog shows up almost instantly when I click on Front End (as in no stuttering or loading)

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:26 PM

It shows up every time you load into frontend?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:26 PM

Yep

I’ve done it 5-6 times and it’s been every time

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:26 PM

Is this before or after the FMVs play?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:28 PM

FMVs?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:28 PM

The intro movies

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:29 PM

At what point are they supposed to play? I don’t get any

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:29 PM

The very second you open the game

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-20 08:30 PM

or as soon as you choose the "front end" option if you're starting from the test menu

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:30 PM

I guess I’m getting the test menu? Because I don’t get any movies. It just takes me to a list with options, the missions, etc

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-May-20 08:31 PM

yeah that

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:31 PM

I don’t get them when I click front end either

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:31 PM

Okay so when you hit front end, the movies should be the first thing you see

Does it just crash as soon as you hit the button?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:31 PM

It doesn’t get to that. It immediately crashes

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:31 PM

What happens when you load into level 7?

Do you get one then?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:31 PM

Immediate crash as well

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:32 PM

Okay

Check the mods folder in your game directory

If you are missing a DLL called BetterBink, that would explain the issue.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:32 PM

I’ll check after dinner and get back to you. Thank you!

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:33 PM

No worries! At present it sounds like your antivirus has falsely flagged and removed one of the game's files, in this case one necessary for playing FMVs.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:33 PM

I wouldn’t doubt that. It did it with another dll

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:33 PM

You probably experience the same crash upon entering Whenua's hut, yes?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:33 PM

I don’t think I got there either

Is that where you have to dig the tunnel?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:34 PM

No, it's right after you enter Onu-Koro

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:34 PM

Hmm I don’t think I got there

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:35 PM

When you enter Onu-Koro it'll immediately play a cutscene, and then warp you to Whenua's hut where it plays a video. It should result in the same crash if my understanding of the issue is correct.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:35 PM

Which part is Onu-Koro?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:36 PM

If we're talking about the same part, right after the place you dig.

That's the area right after the beach with Nobua and a totem nearby, yes? (edited)

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:36 PM

Ah yes. It does crash there

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:37 PM

My guess for the first crash is you're either missing the mod BetterBink, or the native DLL in the game's root directory binkw32. I'm not certain about this one. I'd need the address for that as well.

Another followup question actually.

Are you playing the game in widescreen or 4:3?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:37 PM

I think I saw binkw32

Widescreen

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:38 PM

Sounds like you're missing BetterBink then.

Prior to creating that, FMVs consistently crashed the game if it was played in widescreen

lunchbox17 27-May-20 08:38 PM

I’ll take a peek after dinner

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 08:38 PM

Sounds good.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 09:28 PM

Yep, antivirus was deleting all those dll files in the mods folder. I reinstalled, and added them all the exceptions list

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 09:29 PM

Nice, that should help alleviate most of your crashes if it was deleting all of them.

You will notice however that your existing save data probably won't work.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 09:30 PM

Yep, intro movies play, and I get the actual game menu for once!

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 09:30 PM

One of the mods completely rewrites the save system

lunchbox17 27-May-20 09:30 PM

I never saved anything anyways

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 09:30 PM

Also be careful about playing from the frontend until the next patch if you do want to save. This version has an issue with saves getting corrupted when played from there

This will be fixed very soon

lunchbox17 27-May-20 09:31 PM

Will do! I'm mostly just curious to see how the game is right now. I understand that it's not very complete

I just happened to find a video on it and thought it was kinda cool, so I decided to check it out!

Thanks a bunch for your help with this

Where will I be able to get the patch once it's released?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 09:32 PM

Right from your launcher. You'll be prompted when it's available.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 09:32 PM

Sweet!

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 09:32 PM

I'm thinking the result of your other crashes was due to the lack of mods as well.

Anywhere with the custom matoran you see in some of the videos uses one of those mods

And re-reading your initial report, that lines up generally with the areas you reported crashing in (edited)

(Mostly directly preceding villages) (edited)

lunchbox17 27-May-20 09:33 PM

I see. I look forward to being able to actually play it now! I'll let you know how it goes

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 09:33 PM

Awesome. Have fun!

Let us know if anything else goes wrong, and I'll try and assist best I can.

lunchbox17 27-May-20 09:34 PM

Will do!

Yep, it's all working now!

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 09:37 PM

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:25 PM

Out of curiosity, is the entire mission fully playable?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:25 PM

The entire game, or a specific level?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:25 PM

Onua's for instance, since that's the one I'm on

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:26 PM

Yes. Makuta isn't in the game at the moment obviously, but there's never a point where you'll get permanently stuck.

You can play the game from start to finish. Such as it is. (edited)

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:26 PM

I see. I must just be missing something then

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:27 PM

What might that be?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:27 PM

I haven't found all the dancing villagers, or the throwing disc

I've been running around the village and caves trying to find them

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:28 PM

Well the dancers are all in the village in very easy to spot places.

The disk is in the cave after the Nui Jaga

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:29 PM

Nui Jaga?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:29 PM

Yes

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:29 PM

What's that?

Is that the night vision mask?

(I'm not overly familiar with Bionicle terminology)

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:30 PM

https://biosector01.com/wiki/Nui-Jaga :p

Nui-Jaga

"But that's not a problem. I can handle it. A walk in a cavern ... a swim in the water ... a fast swim… and a very, very large monster."— Toa Mata Lewa, Deep into Darkness

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:31 PM

So the bigger cave, with the hole in the ceiling?

(If this is the wrong channel btw we can move the conversation if need be)

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:32 PM

No that's not where that is. You'd know it if you'd gotten to it at all yet, trust me. :p

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:32 PM

So it'll be later then?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:32 PM

Ye

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:33 PM

Gotcha

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:33 PM

You will need the night vision mask to find the disk though, so good on ya for finding that. A lot of people miss it

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:35 PM

I seem to be going in the right direction now!

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:37 PM

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:37 PM

Seriously, thank you for your help! I know there are a lot of communities for games that aren't always so welcoming to new/unexperienced people, so thank you for being patient

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:40 PM

I'll admit I'm not always super patient but you were thorough with your report and don't expect us to tell you how to do absolutely everything, even if it's not related to the game. You also came to the right channel first as I mentioned earlier which is very much appreciated, and none of these things are unfortunately super common. I tend to be more patient with people who make an effort such as yourself, aha. (edited)

A lot of people just drop into Beaverhouse General, even though the rules are the first thing you see when you log in, and just say stuff like "GAME DON'T WORK HOW DO RUN GAME?" It's draining.

(edited)

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:41 PM

I can understand you there. I'm an admin on a modding site/discord server, and we get a lot of people that don't read anything and just make a bunch of demands without explaining their problems

Understandable

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:42 PM

We even had one unfortunate case a couple of weeks back where one user got so far up their own butt that they said and I quote: "It is ridiculous for the game to be in tatters like this."

Like, alright my guy, you think you can do better? All our tools are open source, go nuts!

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:43 PM

Yeah, some people are just very entitled

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:44 PM

But yeah, point being I like helping people who don't act like THAT. :p

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:44 PM

Speaking of tools, you mentioned (and so did the video) that the final mission is mostly incomplete, with no makuta or anything like that. Do you think it'll ever be possible to make that level functional, or are the tools not sophisticated enough?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:46 PM

Making the level itself is very much doable. It'll just take a lot of work, and we're currently going through the game's levels in sequence for overhauls. The next patch for instance while containing many miscellaneous and global changes, will primarily focus on Gali's level.

It's making Makuta himself that we can't really do quite yet

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:46 PM

I see. No modeling tools?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:46 PM

Mostly due to currently lacking the ability to import/export animations

Modelling is easy

All the Toa, Turaga, and Tohunga models you see in Rebuilt are brand new

As are some other props like the Amana Volo spheres, and the Vuata Maca trees

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:47 PM

I see. I'm in the same boat over in my community (X-Men Legends II/Ultimate Alliance modding). We have no animation tools either

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:47 PM

There are even some new stages here and there

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:47 PM

That's awesome!

Making them more high definition?

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:48 PM

Indeed. You can see some of that work in the Trailers for Rebuilt where it often shows off some of those new stages and compares the new to old models

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:48 PM

I'll have to check that out

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryTsr5Gy-_c

Litestone Studios

BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui REBUILT - Announcement Trailer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXebLIpOsRE

Litestone Studios

BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui REBUILT - Launch Trailer

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lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:48 PM

This is really a super cool project

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:48 PM

Thanks. ❤️ Out of curiosity, who was it you watched that brought it to your attention?

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:49 PM

Let me find the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThpxKCT6EL0

DidYouKnowGaming?

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V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:49 PM

Ah yea, I definitely know that one since we worked with him on it. :p

That was made before Rebuilt even really started development.

When he mentioned Litestone and the new build we were making, we didn't even have a studio logo, and Rebuilt wasn't even named yet. xP

lunchbox17 27-May-20 10:50 PM

Yeah I noticed it was an older video

It's awesome to see how far it's come!

V A H K I T I 27-May-20 10:52 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 02:49 AM

@V A H K I T I Regarding the crash, here's my mods folder and the folder I have it installed in

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:49 AM

Erm

You're missing the optionalpatchnative mod

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 02:50 AM

That's also for main?

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:50 AM

That's kinda necessary for the game to run at this point

Main uses it for a few essential functions, yes

At least I believe it does

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 02:51 AM

master branch / native / mods doesn't show it

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:52 AM

Maybe I'm mistaken. DOes your rebuilt install have it?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 02:52 AM

yes

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:52 AM

hmm

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 02:52 AM

~~villager noise~~

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:53 AM

What's the crash address?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 02:53 AM

7543e2d2

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:55 AM

IIRC that's a DLL related crash

Tried removing dgvoodoo?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 02:55 AM

Not yet

that's.. which dlls?

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:56 AM

I don't recall tbh. You'd have to cross reference with vanilla if you have a backup of it

If not I can

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 02:57 AM

also crashes, except this time chrome has a stroke and moves to the top left of the screen

same address

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:58 AM

Huh.

WHat does it give you if you debug it in IDA?

I doubt anything useful but worth a shot

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-May-20 03:30 AM

as in, just looking at the address?

or what?

Mr. Labo 30-May-20 05:31 AM

eyyyy @Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) fellow total commander user as well :D

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 12:43 PM

As in debugging the game. :v

JrMasterModelBuilder 30-May-20 02:06 PM

@V A H K I T I I've forwarded an email about some issue playing the game on Windows XP.

I try to download the game legend of mata Nui from bionicle but it say is not compatible in win32 and I need one for the window Xp in win32 version it can be posible please?

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 02:07 PM

If he's talking about the launcher, that doesn't run on Windows XP at all. The main patch should run, but Rebuilt does not officially support XP, so any issues he has with it will not be fixed.

sweg (Andrew) 02-Jun-20 08:21 PM

so apparently the horns are back to being softlockable now

caused by the grapple being shot when using the horns

and softlock occurring upon the grapple coming back to the player

iirc the horns are supposed to prevent shooting the grapple when being used

V A H K I T I 02-Jun-20 08:29 PM

Oof. I'll look into that

ShadowDraikana 03-Jun-20 10:26 AM

see this is why i didnt want to touch the lev2 grapple code

because it was fixed

lunchbox17 03-Jun-20 12:10 PM

2 bugs to report: - I started a new game in the player 2 save slot. I got through part of Onua’s story, including completing 2/3 Matoran quests (so boosting my health by 2 circles). I later gave up on the mountainside platforming section and exited the game (esc>quit game, and then quitting from the main menu). When I came back to play, the player 2 profile showed like 900 million % complete. I started the game in that profile, and it put me back on the starting beach. All my progress had been saved up to the point I had gotten to, aside from the extra health I had earned from quests. So I just had to make my way from the beach back to the area I was last in. I’m not sure if this is normal or not, but I figured I’d report it. - on that same save, when I defeated the Earth elemental, I got an unhandled exception error that crashed my game. It happened right after the waterfall disappears after he dies. I didn’t manage to catch what the error/address was When I started the new game, I didn’t use the test menu (edited)

I went back to check that profile again, and it shows 13% complete now rather than the very large number

I went back and did the boss battle again, and it’s all fine now. The only difference is that I wasn’t full screen the second time (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Jun-20 12:43 PM

First one is the save corruption bug. Already fixed and ready for the next patch. Second one is a known issue that happens for no currently explained reason, but is still known.

lunchbox17 03-Jun-20 12:50 PM

Good to know! Thank you

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 03-Jun-20 05:45 PM

are we aware that when you try to view the inventore, the game freezes? ir is that just me?

V A H K I T I 03-Jun-20 05:46 PM

It happens from time to time, yes/

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 03-Jun-20 05:47 PM

okay

V A H K I T I 03-Jun-20 05:47 PM

The new help menu does the same thing. We're not entirely sure why yet

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 03-Jun-20 05:47 PM

okay cool

and I like the new models

I think last time I played the game was when we just released the rebuit...

lunchbox17 03-Jun-20 10:01 PM

Does anyone have the ijl15.dll? Despite it being on my exception list, my antivirus still decided to delete it

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 04-Jun-20 08:09 AM

I'm experiencing sound errors in rebuit

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-20 12:01 PM

What kind of sound errors?

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 04-Jun-20 01:16 PM

Like...nothing's playing

No music, no sound effects

Nothing

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Jun-20 01:18 PM

Are they on in the game's options menu?

Leena 04-Jun-20 01:18 PM

I don't know how the game works but when I have that problem with games I check my sound input/output settings outside the game

Probably unhelpful but hey

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 04-Jun-20 01:50 PM

The thing is, I get small short sounds playing when I pick up the little greem ammo orbs

Not the entire sound effect , but the first half secon on only the first one I pick up

Leena 04-Jun-20 01:51 PM

Ah

That's... interesting

lunchbox17 05-Jun-20 09:16 PM

One thing I noticed is that if you lower the sound volume of the game in the options menu, most sounds play quieter, except for the shooting sound, which is always the same

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-20 09:32 PM

Odd

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jun-20 09:33 PM

Weird. I've never fucked with the SFX slider before.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 02:59 PM

oh, yeah

I'm gonna debug the thing now because I forgot

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:00 PM

which thing?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:00 PM

the game

because it's crashing for me

which debugger should I pick?

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:02 PM

Local windows

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:02 PM

and then just hit "start process"?

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:02 PM

ye

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:03 PM

warning

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:04 PM

I mean that doesn't tell me anything. What does the rest of the debugger show after you hit okay

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:06 PM

here's the entire thing

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:06 PM

And that's as soon as you start up the game?

No menus or anything?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:07 PM

just a white screen

no exception window

and it can't even be closed with task manager

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:07 PM

I'm gonna try and get a clean copy of rebuilt and see if I can replicate this

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:08 PM

okay

so I just found out I should probably hit "continue process" on that

another thing happened

and something came out of it!

Attachment: message.txt (4.08 KB)

that's the whole log

it gave some osi error

for some reason, it just fucks itself at ss_basesprite.initfull

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:17 PM

This is rebuilt or main?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:17 PM

main

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:19 PM

Building a fresh clone of Rebuilt now to see what's up

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:19 PM

keep in mind that Rebuilt does the same thing

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:20 PM

That's why I'm using it. :p

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:20 PM

at least with the address, that is

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 03:33 PM

I am unable to replicate this.

The only explanation is that you're missing a file, or your antivirus is removing one

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jun-20 03:46 PM

I'm using Windows Defender and the newest stuff pulled from github

I'll try to troubleshoot this tomorrow, for now I'm going to bed

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Jun-20 03:22 AM

pulled the things again, and

halleluja

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:33 AM

Wonder what the issue was

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 07-Jun-20 04:21 AM

We may never know

ShadowDraikana 08-Jun-20 08:48 AM

top 10.questions debugging cant answer

Arcphoenix 22-Jun-20 03:16 PM

I can’t run the game due to some ijl15.dll file not being found?

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 22-Jun-20 03:22 PM

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/LOMN-Beta/raw/rebuilt-master/native/ijl15.dll See if you can download that from here. This file occasionally gets false-flagged by anti-virus applications so you may need to ensure it's whitelisted. (edited)

Arcphoenix 22-Jun-20 04:27 PM

Done, but now I have this: “Unhandle exception c0999995 At address 00657771” (edited)

It crashed after that

xbladestrike9 (Xeno) 27-Jun-20 02:56 AM

So how does one get the lava board? I keep dying then the game crashes. I'm to stupid to figure this out.

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 28-Jun-20 08:13 PM

IIRC the lavaboard isn't collectable ~~yet~~ (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Jun-20 10:18 PM

Yes. There's currently a bug where the platforms around where the board is don't load their collision, so for the moment the board is inaccessible without use of the debug camera.

xbladestrike9 (Xeno) 29-Jun-20 07:46 PM

Thanks for the info!

xbladestrike9 (Xeno) 01-Jul-20 12:39 AM

Hate to bother you again but how would one activate this camera so I could get it?

xbladestrike9 (Xeno) 01-Jul-20 01:39 AM

Or is it completely impossible.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 01-Jul-20 02:45 AM

It's activated with Numpad /, controlled with the numpad

Numpad 5 changes the speed and the minus character on the keyboard then teleports you to the camera's position

bcktanRky 05-Jul-20 12:44 AM

How to make it full screen?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jul-20 12:44 AM

Alt+Enter

bcktanRky 05-Jul-20 12:44 AM

Thank you!

V A H K I T I 05-Jul-20 12:45 AM

@xbladestrike9 (Xeno) You may be happy to know this will be fixed in the next patch.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jul-20 12:45 AM

~~It will?~~

V A H K I T I 05-Jul-20 12:45 AM

It won't fix ALL the issues with this area, but it should help

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jul-20 12:45 AM

yeah that

V A H K I T I 05-Jul-20 12:45 AM

Yes? :p

Btw

Remind me tomorrow to update the fix

I found out what was causing the dying during the cutscene

Well sort of.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Jul-20 12:46 AM

Oh?

V A H K I T I 05-Jul-20 12:46 AM

The position the cutscene initially warps you to must result in death somehow.

However since I now have the ABILITY to die tied to a property to curb the infinite death crash, I can just..

disable death until the cutscene is over

:p

But yeah remind me tomorrow to push it to rebuilt and upload it to main.

For some reason alpha is being a bit more problematic and will require further R&D

bcktanRky 05-Jul-20 02:44 PM

I keep running into crashing bugs on level 2 with Gali. Whenever I drown in Ga-Wahi it crashes or when I get to the large dark underwater portion of the game it lags like crazys and crashes without fail. Is there any way to fix this?

V A H K I T I 05-Jul-20 02:45 PM

Not sure about lag, but the drowning bug is known

Due to an overload of the game's particle renderer from the way the player is killed.

This will be fixed in the next patch by basically replacing the entire drowning system with an entirely new air meter coded from the ground up. :p

bcktanRky 05-Jul-20 02:46 PM

Awesome thanks!

V A H K I T I 05-Jul-20 02:47 PM

No problem! Unfortunately I can't offer a ton of advice to work around it at present. I'm not sure we even quite know why it does this with the default meter.

Bubbles cause the same issue since they never disappear so they create a constant particle fountain if you stay in them for too long. (edited)

That will also be fixed

We're hoping to have the next patch done by 810NICLE Day as with the initial launch last year.

(edited)

bcktanRky 05-Jul-20 06:27 PM

There's also an issue with the stone elemental where he takes the only 3 possible rocks to kick back at him and keeps them floating in front of him.

making it not possible to beat

V A H K I T I 05-Jul-20 06:27 PM

That's also known. We're not sure what causes it

IIRC it's to do with letting yourself get stunned

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Jul-20 06:28 PM

yeah

bcktanRky 05-Jul-20 06:28 PM

Huh strange. So basically don't get stunned?

V A H K I T I 05-Jul-20 06:28 PM

Yea

Which I mean

Not hard to do

Literally just jump. :p

bcktanRky 05-Jul-20 06:29 PM

Right

Now the whole save reset -_-

Oonie 14-Jul-20 10:11 PM

I’m a little confused as to how one obtains the new patch(es)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 15-Jul-20 11:32 AM

You just open the game, if there's a new patch available it'll tell you

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Jul-20 11:47 AM

Launcher, not the game itself.

As someone who doesn't always open the game through the launcher, it will only tell you there's a patch if you open it from the launcher.

Then it auto downloads

Oonie 15-Jul-20 12:52 PM

Ah, gotcha. Thought I missed something

DIEGO 15-Jul-20 04:07 PM

Now I can't play Rebuilt, error message shows when I click on it on the launcher.

DIEGO 15-Jul-20 04:15 PM

I got this message: "The application could not start properly (0x0000142)."

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Jul-20 04:15 PM

sounds like your anitvirus flagged the ijl15.dll

proffessor 15-Jul-20 08:05 PM

So I FINALLY have a PC that I could play LOMN on, and I’m attempting to find the “run as administrator” option under the properties, and I’m not sure if I’m just blind or what but I can’t seem to find anything.

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 15-Jul-20 08:07 PM

Should be under the Compatibility tab

proffessor 15-Jul-20 08:08 PM

Yeah I’m just fuckin dumb

thank you

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 15-Jul-20 08:10 PM

Happens to the best of us :B

Sergio Bosque 17-Jul-20 07:28 PM

Hello, I am having an issue running LOMN

every time I hit play, a white screen shows up, the first half a second of audio of the logo video plays on loop, and an error message pops up. Inmediately afterwards it crashes

i think i'm running it as admin and all

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 17-Jul-20 09:37 PM

Can you send a screencap of the error message?

Sergio Bosque 18-Jul-20 04:38 AM

@Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ this is all that shows up

thank you

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 18-Jul-20 10:03 AM

@Sergio Bosque make sure you're running the game in compatibility mode for Windows XP. See if running the game in a 4:3 resolution helps.

Sergio Bosque 18-Jul-20 10:03 AM

Doing both things, yes

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 18-Jul-20 10:09 AM

See if it'll launch if you delete the contents of the "Cinematics" folder in the game directory. (I recommend copying that folder somewhere else first, of course)

Sergio Bosque 19-Jul-20 08:19 AM

still nothing, sadly

DIEGO 19-Jul-20 11:14 AM

sounds like your anitvirus flagged the ijl15.dll

Anything I can do about it?

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 19-Jul-20 11:16 AM

You would have to make sure the file is whitelisted in your antivirus and replace the .DLL if your AV purged it

akirk47 24-Jul-20 01:01 PM

I'm having some trouble with running the rebuilt version of the game. I installed the launcher and the rebuilt version from BioMedia Project but when I tried play the rebuilt version, it brought this up:

I tried deleting the rebuilt files and then installing the rebuilt version from the launcher by hitting no, but it just cycled back to this.

Lomiada1 24-Jul-20 01:49 PM

you have to select the rebuild file manually

akirk47 24-Jul-20 02:09 PM

So, I select the launcher from the files?

Lomiada1 24-Jul-20 02:24 PM

yes

that should work

from the launcher when it asks if it is downloadet

akirk47 24-Jul-20 03:01 PM

It worked. Thanks!

akirk47 27-Jul-20 06:32 PM

Can anyone help me with this?

When I try to play it, I start at the very beginning when I should be on Gali's level (about 16%). When I quit the game, it does that unhandled exception error.

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-Jul-20 06:35 PM

That's the save corruption bug. Will be fixed next patch. If you send the file here (player1.sav) we can fix it for you.

akirk47 27-Jul-20 06:39 PM

Attachment: player1.sav (3.21 KB)

Then replace the old player1.sav once its fixed?

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-Jul-20 06:46 PM

Yes

akirk47 27-Jul-20 06:47 PM

Alright.

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 27-Jul-20 07:15 PM

Attachment: player1.sav (3.21 KB)

akirk47 27-Jul-20 07:16 PM

Thanks!

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 27-Jul-20 07:16 PM

Np!

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 12:49 PM

So uuh I just lost my whole save file

Oh wait it’s the same thing that just happened in this channel

I can read

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 12:56 PM

That

Shouldn't be happening if you've done the same thing Jo did and pulled from github

Cause that's fixed in all the working versions.

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 12:57 PM

I didn’t. Just downloaded whatever the default rebuild was

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 01:06 PM

o

That explains it then. :p

Yea that'll be fixed for good in the next patch.

The issue is related to the menu counting as a level and also trying to SAVE like one

Which uh

Kinda fucks some shit up

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 01:08 PM

Also it crashes if I drown

...it seems to crash a lot

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 01:08 PM

Also fixed in the next build, albeit in a very broad way

Crashing while drowning or whle staying in a bubble is all particle related.

it's apparently very easy to overload the game's particle engine

If something tries to call a particle emitter every frame for too long, kaboom.

For water, this was fixed in the next Rebuilt version by literally throwing out the entire mechanic and scripting an entirely new one.

Thanks to @ShadowDraikana for that one, though I did my part too. :p

There's basically now a proper air meter as an extension of the HUD that kills you differently when you drown. Bubbles also disappear for a bit after collecting them to mitigate that part of the problem.

Additionally, the air meter is applied to all Toa now, not just Gali, so Onua for instace is now capable of drowning in the few areas where he encounters water

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 01:11 PM

Sounds cool

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:22 PM

so im downloading alpha and installing a patch and i get this message. What should I do with it?

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-20 11:22 PM

Yes to All if that's the patch

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:23 PM

I clicked that before though and I wasn’t able to play it

I had to delete and reinstall the launcher to have it download the alpha again

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-20 11:23 PM

oh

@V A H K I T I You're the launcher guy. What do?

Does the game crash on startup or is it just a black screen

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:25 PM

It wouldn’t even get to the LEGO logo

It would like start the sound and then crash

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-20 11:25 PM

did it throw a crash address or did the window completely close

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:26 PM

That’s when I clicked yes to all last time

It had an error window pop up but I don’t remember an address

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 11:26 PM

Try playing in 4:3

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:26 PM

This is just installing alpha

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 11:26 PM

And trying to run the game yes?

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:27 PM

I was having these issues last time I tried to run the game. I screwed something up, gave up, and reinstalled the launcher and am now downloading alpha again

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 11:27 PM

So is that a yes?

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:27 PM

When downloading the patch, I get this message and I want to make sure I don’t break everything again

So yeah lol

Though it’s not running the game at this point

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 11:28 PM

So are you getting the crash now or reporting it from before?

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:28 PM

I’m reporting it from before

I just kinda deleted the alpha files after the crash cause I gave up and am reinstalling it now

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 11:28 PM

Just do what Reese said then

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:28 PM

...cool lol

yep same thing

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 11:29 PM

Then do that thing I said

:v

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:30 PM

...huh that did it

Thanks

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 11:31 PM

Yeah alpha doesn't have the better bunk mod yet

*bink

So fmvs will crash the game if you run it 16:9

This is a known bug and is in the launcher as a disclaimer. :P

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:32 PM

Aha

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-20 11:32 PM

~~I mean the whole game is bunk~~

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:32 PM

Thanks for helping me through my ineptitude

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Aug-20 11:32 PM

~~and by patching it we are making it better bunk~~

V A H K I T I 07-Aug-20 11:33 PM

:v

IIRC this is fixed in the latest working builds on GitHub as well

Hence why Jo didn't encounter it

(Team Kanohi) Markle 07-Aug-20 11:34 PM

gotcha

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-20 11:49 AM

uh yeah did you forget i generated an alpha betterbink

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-20 01:22 PM

I did

:p

But then I remembered

I just forgot it wasn't OUT yet

akirk47 08-Aug-20 02:19 PM

Sorry to bug you guys about this, but I ran into the save corruption bug again.

Attachment: player1.sav (4.43 KB)

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 08-Aug-20 02:21 PM

I do

What level were u on

akirk47 08-Aug-20 02:25 PM

Pohatu's. About 36% and on the Rock Elemental part. Is it possible to retain the tokens and amana volo spheres I obtained?

If it is, I think I had about 58 tokens and 3 spheres.

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 08-Aug-20 02:26 PM

Ya you'll still have those

akirk47 08-Aug-20 02:26 PM

Awesome.

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 08-Aug-20 02:41 PM

Attachment: player1.sav (4.43 KB)

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-20 04:34 PM

i did push that alpha betterbink right

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-20 04:34 PM

ye

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-20 04:34 PM

to the lomnhook repo at least

V A H K I T I 08-Aug-20 04:34 PM

Cause Jo doesn't have the issue

ShadowDraikana 08-Aug-20 04:34 PM

good

was interesting grabbing the offsets

VariousBlazertazer 08-Aug-20 08:44 PM

I'm curious, is there any way to open a .blk file (3D characters, levels, etc.)?

I know that it's possible with Autodesk Maya, but is there any other way to properly view the models for free? (edited)

JrMasterModelBuilder 08-Aug-20 09:28 PM

BLK files are archive files, and yes I made a tool to extract and repack them (Maya can't open them BTW, it's a custom format for the game). (edited)

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/sage-blkfile

TheLegendOfMataNui/sage-blkfile

Python module and CLI utility for the BLK files use by the SAGE engine. - TheLegendOfMataNui/sage-blkfile

VariousBlazertazer 09-Aug-20 01:08 PM

Yay! Very much appreciated!

VariousBlazertazer 09-Aug-20 03:26 PM

I'm having trouble with the module. How do I set the "paths" positional argument? I'm running on python 3.8 I imported the module into the shell, ran it, and got the following output: usage: blkfile.py [-h] [-c | -d] [-l] [-o OUTPUT] paths [paths ...] blkfile.py: error: the following arguments are required: paths

JrMasterModelBuilder 09-Aug-20 03:31 PM

blkfile.py pathtoarchive.bik

(edited)

VariousBlazertazer 09-Aug-20 06:11 PM

Arg! It's very difficult just to get the module to read one of the files!

VariousBlazertazer 09-Aug-20 07:19 PM

Alright, I'll admit, I have almost no idea what I'm doing. I'm very beginner when it comes to scripting, so it might take "a good while"

'less there be a guide/manual for use

No idea how you guys figured it out

akirk47 16-Aug-20 01:59 PM

Hey, it's me again. I'm having some trouble with the Tahu level. After the lava surfing part, I try to go onto the lava lake but when I get to the larger floating rocks in the middle, I go right through them, die and then the game crashes.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 16-Aug-20 01:59 PM

Known. Most of the rocks in the lava lake just straight up don't have collision.

V A H K I T I 16-Aug-20 01:59 PM

This will be fixed in the next patch