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The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 09:27 PM

memes

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 09:28 PM

ReEsE

sweg (Andrew) 13-Feb-20 09:28 PM

graphic design is my passion

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 09:28 PM

ALRIGHT @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) let's take this here

So

For the glyphs, I say just keep the texture but cut off the square corners

Ie: just keep everything inside the first gray ring on the outside of the texture.

That's how the game maps it anyways IIRC

The King 13-Feb-20 09:35 PM

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 09:39 PM

Where is the hammer again Reese? I forget.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 09:39 PM

As in the map?

GLY1

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 09:39 PM

thank

The skates?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 09:41 PM

CRSS

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 09:53 PM

Ooooh

@V A H K I T I okay

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 09:55 PM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 09:55 PM

We definitely made a list somewhere and you pinned er

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 09:55 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 09:55 PM

ah good boi

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 09:55 PM

That's funny lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 09:55 PM

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 09:58 PM

Gonna redo the last few renders too btw just to make sure they're consistent

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 09:58 PM

You got it

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 09:59 PM

As for the disk, you should just be able to use the inventory texture for that

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:01 PM

As in the throwing discs?

Okay

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:01 PM

I thought that was already in here

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:02 PM

What?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:02 PM

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:02 PM

It's only in there for level 1. I think we decided to move that to a common items section at some point

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:03 PM

Yea in a section before the specific level descriptions

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:03 PM

Ah so that's just not been updated yet, okay. Gotcha

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:04 PM

It's there page 9

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:04 PM

i assume this has been fixed

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:04 PM

Hehehehe

My b

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:04 PM

Apparently all the pickups fill your ammo

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:05 PM

Everything is ammo

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:06 PM

why's there randomly a makuta picture in lev2 lol

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:06 PM

Oooh page 9 is pick ups not items. I will addend that with a section with common items

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:07 PM

...I also see that the leftmost picture there has the takara stage in it

which is my b

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:07 PM

Slight delay. Apparently the gate stone has some weird lighting issues

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:08 PM

Shit

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:08 PM

Apparently it just doesn't like depth map shadows

Weird but fixed

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:08 PM

Yuh

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:09 PM

you want me to get another screencap of beta ga koro or is it too small to notice

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:09 PM

I'd say grab another

Also

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:09 PM

k

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:09 PM

While you're at it add this to the trello

The gear has some WEIRD-ASS normals

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:09 PM

under what

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:10 PM

Lev2 rebuild

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:10 PM

1.1?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:10 PM

I can fix it up real quick for the render but I can't really do much with it unless you wanna handle it

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:10 PM

1.1, then

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:10 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:11 PM

attach that picture to the card when you get the chance

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:11 PM

Attachment: gear.dae (21.22 KB)

If you want to convert and test that we can get it out of the way now

I'll let you push it since I'm working on this

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:12 PM

oh ok

so this should just be as easy as a LoMNTool conversion right

no maya stuff

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:12 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:12 PM

k

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:15 PM

I'll send you the element of melting too, it has a similar issue

That one is weird actually. it's smoothed.. generally properly

but it's a crystal

it's not SUPPOSED to be smoothed at all. :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:16 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:16 PM

Attachment: melting.dae (23.95 KB)

Random question.

Is there any reason this CAN'T work as an actual part?

it looks like it would actually fit on a Tohunga foot

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:18 PM

It could probably work as a part (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:18 PM

Also I'm gonna do something fun with this one for Rebuilt.

Does the text say he lost a skate, or BOTH his skates?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:19 PM

I...don't recall

the pickup text says Skates

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:19 PM

Cause if it's the latter, I can set this up as a pair right now and send you the noew model

Okay

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:19 PM

let me check the quest text

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:19 PM

I'll do that for rebuilt while I'm here

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:20 PM

yup text says skates

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:20 PM

One new pair of skaes coming up then

Attachment: skateS.dae (49.66 KB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:25 PM

well

the gear doesn't work

putting it in makes VLLG shut down for me

Attachment: gear.x (605 B)

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:27 PM

is the X file valid?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:27 PM

Valid?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:27 PM

Yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:27 PM

The hell does that mean?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:28 PM

Is it a valid file, like is it a working model?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:28 PM

I assume not if it's fucking this up

tried with the old model and it works fine

I'll run it through VS

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:29 PM

Attachment: gear.dae (20.81 KB)

Attachment: melting.dae (23.54 KB)

Attachment: skateS.dae (49.25 KB)

Try these

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 10:30 PM

ERROR -- the handle to < gear > is nothing!! -- is < gear > in the slk ?? OSI ERROR: Requested variant conversion unimplimented. Recompile to debug for types [ 0x00073091 "lego_moveableobject.setdefault" (Current Subroutine) ]

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:31 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

Attachment: ITEM_RENDERS.zip (1.56 MB)

All 12 ready to go.

ShadowDraikana 13-Feb-20 10:32 PM

idk what the hell is going on there

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:41 PM

Fraug, feel free to tinker with the assets like making the bugs' eyes or the element of melting glow.

I'll leave you to be creative with post-processing. (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:53 PM

Yuhh okay

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:54 PM

You sound unenthusiastic

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:54 PM

No no no not my intention lol

I'm not using the .dae files right?

I'll probably spend the extra time applying some nice post processing to really bring it together

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:58 PM

I sent you dae files?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 10:58 PM

Okay I haven't opened the zip I'm on mobile

Ooooh no I meant the other .dae files in this channel, they are not for me then.

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 10:59 PM

Ah no

The archive just contains PNGs

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:00 PM

Okay lol I apologize for how confusing I made that

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:00 PM

it's aight.

Anything else you need?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:01 PM

you got that new screencap to use right

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:01 PM

Yuh I saw

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:01 PM

good

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:02 PM

The other levels aren't missing items correct? They feel a little empty compared to the first. They worked more on the first level than the other levels didn't they?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:04 PM

Not sure I follow. All the items are present here except for masks and the disks.

OH

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:05 PM

you did lump the hook, stone, and disc in with lev1

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:05 PM

Right I was just going to mention the stone, then I remembered we're doing that

Or rather making a common items page

So I don't need to make more stone renders

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:05 PM

we could just put them under the common pickups part

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:05 PM

ye

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:10 PM

So stone in common pickup section

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:10 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:11 PM

stone, grapple, and disc

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:11 PM

Gotcha

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:33 PM

Also

might be a bit late

I need Glyph renders as well

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:34 PM

Well no

Unless you just mean the textures

In which case yeah I can grab those real quick

Attachment: on_lev_20xx_earthqk.dds (64.13 KB)

(working on the rest)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:38 PM

do they not have a model?

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:39 PM

I mean they do but we absolutely don't need it

Just crop the texture

It's literally just a square tablet with rounded corners

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:39 PM

Okay

Ill give it rounded edges or something

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:40 PM

Just crop out the gray on the edges and you have a front view of the model

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:40 PM

okay will do

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:40 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) There the fugg is the tsunami glyph txture? I don't se it in the lev2 folder.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:40 PM

whats the 'lore' for elemental tokens, im rewritting a piece

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:40 PM

Something something "only the Toa can see them"

There's a totem on the beach in level 1 that says all there is to say

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:41 PM

oh it's this

Attachment: ga_lev_10xx_mrblwirlp_1.dds (64.13 KB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:41 PM

gotcha gotcha

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:41 PM

wait

wait wait

this is the texture we transplanted from the other BLKs due to it getting overwritten with a different texture

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:42 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:43 PM

remember when I dug in other level blks and found different textures

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:43 PM

Wait so are you telling me that this glyph just doesn't have a texture?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:43 PM

no no

the original glyph texture had this name

the older version we ported from the other level blk overwrote the existing one

so it uses this texture

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:44 PM

So who's the real slim shady?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:45 PM

Dave the Air Elemental

so hol up for a sec

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:46 PM

So the grappling hook, glyph, disc, and stone are all found in each level

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:46 PM

I'll grab the anilla texture

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:46 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Ye

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Feb-20 11:46 PM

schweet

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:46 PM

here it is

Attachment: ga_lev_10xx_mrblwv_1.dds (64.13 KB)

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:47 PM

That doesn't look like aglpyh texture. It looks like a repurposed wall texture.

That was the vanilla one?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:47 PM

yes

and the one I posted above is the one I found and we replaced

and yes, all the glyphs clearly reused this wall texture

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:49 PM

Well... Fraug, you can just crop this one in the same way for the manual unless we want to put elemental glyphs in the common items section as well.

We may as well tbh

And as for rebuilt, add to the trello that we should make a new proper glpyh texture

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:49 PM

i mean

is the ported one not good?

the original is just the wall yes

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:50 PM

It's passable, but it's entirely different from the other glyphs

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:50 PM

the other glyphs don't exactly exist anymore

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:51 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:51 PM

Unless you're planning on putting them in Rebuilt, I don't think anyone will cry foul over this texture mismatching the old textures

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:53 PM

True. And I guess the other elemental glpyhs do look different

Well as long as it's mapped properly then

ALSO

Apparently there are two variations of the stone rain glpyh. Level 6 has an unused texture

Attachment: po_obj_10xx_RockrainGliph.dds (64.13 KB)

Attachment: po_obj_10xx_RockrainGliph_1.dds (64.13 KB)

At any rate, we can add the glpyhs to the common items page @The Cap'm (Reese)

Er

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:54 PM

~~why me~~

well the texture change makes sense

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:55 PM

~~Cause ur a nerd~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:55 PM

~~yes, but so are you~~

The old stone rain dropped three rocks

the new one drops more

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:55 PM

ah but

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:55 PM

which one gets used in the beta

I'm guessing the incorrect one

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:56 PM

Wait it is?

Cause the one with many rocks is the level 6 copy (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:56 PM

well we should fix that (edited)

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:56 PM

Go for it.

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:57 PM

also

is Onua's level the only one with a glyph back texture

...Ruins?

Attachment: po_lev_10xx_ruins.dds (64.13 KB)

I don't think this is used

and a bridge texture too

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:58 PM

Anyways yeah, Fraug, just use this one for variation and throw the glyphs too into common items

Attachment: ta_lev_10xx_glyph_3.dds (64.13 KB)

also neat

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:58 PM

man we need to do a diff on the alternate textures in these blks

and then use that to make new map ideas

V A H K I T I 13-Feb-20 11:59 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Feb-20 11:59 PM

I'm literally picturing a broken castle in the desert with bridges now

there's a different texture for the upgraded ball in lev6 as well

new texture pushed

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:01 AM

Nice, and yeah I mean if you want add that to the trello for 1.2 and graybox that shit while it's on your mind if ya have nothing else to do

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:01 AM

yeah i'm adding it to the trello

gonna wait to graybox it until we're 100% on 1.1 stuff

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:02 AM

I would suggest looking to the above ground section of Pohatu's level in BTG for inspiration actually.

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:02 AM

I still need to finish BMTN; not too much left to do there

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:02 AM

it has a similar structure

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:02 AM

"Above ground section"

that's a laugh

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:02 AM

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:02 AM

you mean the two second walking simulator before the minecart section

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 12:02 AM

I hate to break it to you now

I put glyphs in the common section before it was decided upon lol

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:03 AM

O. :P

Well use the Tahu texture for variation on that

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 12:03 AM

ta_lev_10?

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:03 AM

Ye

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 12:04 AM

you got it

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:04 AM

just realized that the lewa thermal texture is called thermalooo

huh

seems in the lev6 files they replaced all of Onua's shrine textures with Pohatu's somehow

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 12:07 AM

what was your screenshot replacing reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:07 AM

the one that looks nearly identical to it on the lev2 page

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 12:08 AM

o

sowwy

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:11 AM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 12:12 AM

Yea I shoulda paid attention before I opened my mouth lol

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:15 AM

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:41 AM

i see my prs are merged

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:41 AM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:41 AM

hoorah

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:49 AM

️

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:50 AM

They built this whole neighborhood out of wood, out of wood. I guess I'll still be around when they burn, burn it down. I will be standing around when they burn it down. Here in the Museum of Idiots.

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:51 AM

:v

~~topical~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:51 AM

~~topical?~~

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:52 AM

Cause we still need to make that dev room with that playing. :P

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:52 AM

oh yeah

~~it's also been my custom status for the last month or two but y'know~~

yeah the dev museum

when the time comes we need to hash out what's gonna be in there

dev matoran aside

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:54 AM

Well anything we do will still be better than the gamefreak offices in Pokemon. :V

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:54 AM

aren't those just optional fights

or is that just gen 5

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:54 AM

Well yes bit that's not what I'm getting at.

There's little to nothing outside the conversations themselves to differentiate it from any other building filled with repeating NPCs. :P

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:55 AM

ah

well I was thinking some fun development pictures

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:55 AM

~~return of thicc?~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:55 AM

such as early map stuff (grayboxing) and memes (gali with snapped neck)

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:56 AM

~~sup fucker~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:56 AM

and a shrine to Thicc down a very, very long hallway

Like, an annoyingly long hallway

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:56 AM

~~hi, how are ya?~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:56 AM

that no sane person would walk down

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:56 AM

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:56 AM

yeah those

Thus why I was thinking an actual museum

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:57 AM

I like that

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:57 AM

One floor for neat development sceencaps, one floor for memes, one floor for potential scrapped map exploration like your original Insomniac Museum idea (edited)

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:58 AM

So pretty much the same idea as the gallery I have in our Minecraft server

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 12:58 AM

I mean I don't play minecraft but sure

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:00 AM

"The Rohan" is a three story museum. The first consists of identical before and after screenshots of the map from 2011 and now, mirrored down the center of the room. The second is devoted entirely to memes and inside jokes with a very tall Polnareff hair going through the ceiling to the third floor, which consists of screenshots of our adventures and relics that we've collected or created.

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:00 AM

ah

yeah, kinda like that

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:00 AM

The building is named as such due to it literally being made in the style of Rohan's hair from Jojo

Wasn't kidding about the Polnareff btw. :P

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:05 AM

neet

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:06 AM

But yea this is definitely an idea.

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:06 AM

And we can have our dev matoran scattered about the place to talk to

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:11 AM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:11 AM

added to the trello card for it

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:13 AM

Nice

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 01:13 AM

what do I do with this dead space

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:14 AM

I mean you could just put the pickup types on the same page, right?

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:14 AM

~~Put a Necromorph in it obviously~~ (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:15 AM

~~put in~~

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 01:16 AM

this is the previous page. the bottom of the chart wont fit on the previous page

if I moce the whole pick up there will be dead space here

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:23 AM

Can we move the swimming tutorial elsewhere? (edited)

Then pickups can have a whole page.

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:27 AM

Night all.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 01:32 AM

Maybe but where else?

UTTER_BODGE 14-Feb-20 01:33 AM

we're still gonna re-do our color change for the tree spider quest item or whatever, right? (edited)

it was green or something in vanilla

we changed it to blue to fix some inconsistencies

but it's currently just some random shade of blue

we were gonna re-do that so it's a normal, proper lego blue color, same as the bug quest item etc

if we're doing renders for the manual or whatever, we should do that first

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:37 AM

I don't remember having done that at all. O-o

But I mean if you can get the shade of green, for now Fraug can just hue shift my existing render. :P

Are you sure that's a thing though? Cause I know there are standard Fikou ENEMIES that are greeen

And still are

UTTER_BODGE 14-Feb-20 01:39 AM

I think you misunderstood slightly but yeah at first it was visually the same as the enemies

but the text for the quest said blue, or something

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:39 AM

Huh

UTTER_BODGE 14-Feb-20 01:39 AM

aaaand the other passive bug collectible is blue

so it seems it should be blue

so we made it blue

except we just made it an arbitrary shade of blue lol

so we were gonna make it proper blue... whenever we got around to it

currently it's some color that doesn't fit in the existing 2001 lego colors at all (edited)

it should theoretically match the bug or something like that

it was a reeaaally early fix

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:41 AM

Well I'll have @The Cap'm (Reese) put that on the Trello for alpha and beta reversion and rebuilt update

UTTER_BODGE 14-Feb-20 01:41 AM

I think shadowdraikana was maybe gonna do it?

iirc she did the original change

but ye

trello good

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:41 AM

Ye

The King 14-Feb-20 06:20 AM

@V A H K I T I bob for rebuilt

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 09:51 AM

Alrighty, I'm also going to need an updated credits list as well, or at least the changelog of sorts so I can add what I need to the one I currently have.

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:03 AM

I can just get the texture reversion done now @V A H K I T I

Color change I'll put on the trello

And I'll try getting you the most recent credits as well Fraug

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 10:10 AM

Neat

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 10:12 AM

Much appriciated Reeese

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:13 AM

...as soon as my laptop finishes updating

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 10:19 AM

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:25 AM

Actually

The alpha repo was vanilla right

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 10:25 AM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:25 AM

So the original texture should be there

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 10:25 AM

Except for basic mods and exe changes

Should be yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:25 AM

So I only need to revert legacy

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 10:25 AM

This is true

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:25 AM

Cool

While my computer boots again here, anyone know the texture name?

The King 14-Feb-20 10:27 AM

texture

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:36 AM

alright pr is up

I'll gander at those credits now

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:46 AM

I'll cross reference the rebuilt credits just in case something relevant to main wasn't added here

but I'll otherwise have them up in just a sec

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 10:48 AM

yuhh yuhh

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 10:50 AM

okay fixed that

Attachment: creditsonepointfive.txt (9.16 KB)

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) I notice that the Editors section of the credits is missing from the Rebuilt version for some reason. I assume that should be added in?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 14-Feb-20 11:02 AM

shpank you. Ill throw those in now

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-20 11:03 AM

The editors helped me with main german

rebuilt german is retranslated almost entirely

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 11:03 AM

ah

I'll not add then

I'll push the couple things missing from the main credits and then the spider branch is good to merge

okay all good now

actually

we changed the inventory item too

let me get that

okay that's reverted as well

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 12:35 PM

nice

I'll merge the PRs

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:04 PM

So despite my current debts of around $200, (hopefully to be paid off by the end of the week...) I decided that the rarity of this was worth an investment given its connection to my/our current career paths. :P https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Bionicle-Video-game-Old-Advertising-Small-Poster-Promo-Ad-Print-PS2-GBA-Xbox/274035629519?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2648

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Erm

Dunno why it's embedding as NFS

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Bionicle-Video-game-Old-Advertising-Small-Poster-Promo-Ad-Print-PS2-GBA-Xbox/274035629519

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okay then

ShadowDraikana 14-Feb-20 01:05 PM

???

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-20 01:05 PM

I know why

the listing has ended

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:05 PM

Does it not still show up?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-20 01:05 PM

and it's just giving the "We've found something similar"

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:05 PM

Fuck it then

Here.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

someone bought it

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

Ondrik, maybe you can translate this for me?

Yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

yesterday

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

Sure

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

I did (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

well ok then

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:06 PM

Anyways yeah, no idea what it says, but I've never seen anything like it before.

And it even has an LOMN advert in the corner

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-20 01:08 PM

Bionicle Become part of the legend Now on Game Boy Advance The search for the Toa Overcome dangerous traps and solve difficult puzzles in six different worlds with over twenty levels. Find the stones of the Toa, to summon the mighty heroes - only they can save the island of Mata Nui from Makuta's reign of terror. Additionally, there's six bonus action games with multiplayer function. The destiny of Mata Nui is in your hands! www.bionicle.com

now for the corner

Coming soon The Legend of Mata Nui on PC CD-ROM Help the six great TOA collect the masks of power.

(edited)

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:10 PM

Wew

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-20 01:10 PM

the rest is too difficult to read, but likely a copyright disclaimer

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:10 PM

Thanke

Seruwu😺 14-Feb-20 01:10 PM

i think i managed to find another one

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 14-Feb-20 01:10 PM

no problem

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:10 PM

@Seruwu😺 Oh?

Seruwu😺 14-Feb-20 01:10 PM

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Video-Games-Poster-Collection-Vintage-Poster-Ad-Art-Print-Promo-Advertising-Rare/274016083480?hash=item3fcca19e18:m:miC7crklOrwz7eaPVh1Eh4Q

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V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:11 PM

Same one I thinkl

Seruwu😺 14-Feb-20 01:11 PM

well shit

says its still on stock

lemme ask the seller

V A H K I T I 14-Feb-20 01:20 PM

UTTER_BODGE 14-Feb-20 02:31 PM

While my computer boots again here, anyone know the texture name?

texture for what?

The Cap'm (Reese) 14-Feb-20 03:44 PM

Already did it

But it was the spider

UTTER_BODGE 15-Feb-20 12:33 AM

@The Cap'm (Reese) what did you do to it exactly?

we weren't reverting it to vanilla

we were gonna re-do our initial fix for it

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-20 12:34 AM

Liam's ping to me said revert

So I reverted

For main

UTTER_BODGE 15-Feb-20 12:34 AM

@V A H K I T I aaaaaaa

I explained it twice lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-20 12:35 AM

I'm not an art guy so I'm not touching redoing the color

(For Rebuilt)

UTTER_BODGE 15-Feb-20 12:35 AM

like I'm not against keeping it green (the vanilla color) for main even if it's technically inconsistent

(though the mission text says it's blue iirc?)

that's just what we decided on last time it was discussed

making it blue, but fixing it so it's a "real" color of blue

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-20 12:36 AM

I mean this is no different than not adding the unused quests into main

UTTER_BODGE 15-Feb-20 12:36 AM

I'm just trying to make sure everyone is on the same page and despite explaining so many times nobody is lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Feb-20 12:37 AM

Or not adding token text to the doors in other villages/shrines

UTTER_BODGE 15-Feb-20 12:44 AM

as long as everyone actually knows what's going on and there's good reason for it, I'm on board lol

UTTER_BODGE 15-Feb-20 01:19 AM

actually I think I initially advocated for reverting it to green? maybe? until the bbug being blue, the mission text, etc were pointed out lol

and I conceded

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-20 04:35 AM

May I present to you folks, the true face of horror.

evil.dds

ACTUALLY that looks damn like the texture that would go on an infected mask now that I think about it.

Though there are no physical infected masks in the game.

@Grampa Walker May feel free to change that when he gets to Rahi though.

Anyways, I was just cleaning out the character textures folder so I can put only what I need in my new model folder structure and that popped up

Grampa Walker 19-Feb-20 04:45 AM

Needs work, and the UV needs to be modified to fit it better, but I suppose there is potential for it. (edited)

V A H K I T I 19-Feb-20 04:45 AM

You work fast. xP

Grampa Walker 19-Feb-20 04:45 AM

I try.

rob the corn lover 22-Mar-20 10:02 PM

Working on makuta?

V A H K I T I 13-Apr-20 04:08 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) You still with us?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Apr-20 07:45 PM

Hello

V A H K I T I 13-Apr-20 07:46 PM

Sup nerd? :p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Apr-20 07:46 PM

https://youtu.be/rzs1lY6Wx68

T & H Group

Five Nights at Freddys 2 Balloon Boy Hello Hi Laugh Scream

V A H K I T I 13-Apr-20 07:46 PM

Feel like continuing the manual soon/need any assistance with it? :v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Apr-20 07:47 PM

I've had a pretty clear plate. Been trying to keep myself motivated during all this. Battling with a lot of mental shit but I've been doing more and more each day. Usually late in the evening I get pretty bored so I can squeeze it into my schedule. What have yall be doing how have you been doing with all this?

V A H K I T I 13-Apr-20 07:49 PM

Well Benji, JMMB, and James seem to be doing their usual things, Ash has seemingly isolated herself into Warframe, Walker has gone missing entirely, and I've been doing the same as Ash up until today with Minecraft until I just randomly got the urge a few days ago to try and kick things back into gear. I think out of all of us, only Reese has really been keeping up with things to the best of his abilities. (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 13-Apr-20 07:55 PM

So we're all trying to plough through this best we can lol. Yes I've been trying to be creative. Really been working writing my own music, that comes with a lot of insecurities and one hour session is exhausting and I don't wanna be creative for a couple days lol. Pages just got updated with the native ability to have page backgrounds so my job is about to get even easier. I don't really need any help but if you'd like you can help me color coordinate the sections so I can get on to making the text boxes and backgrounds. I've been sleeping 12 hours and awake for the other half. I'm up til 7 am so I'll probably get to working around 3. My brother and I have been playing VR and games together in the evening.

V A H K I T I 13-Apr-20 07:56 PM

Sounds good. And yeah, my sleep schedule has been rough too

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 03:42 PM

@V A H K I T I These are the images I'm using for the glossary images, for reference.

Attachment: lomnglossary.zip (2.13 MB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 03:49 PM

so next step

What do?

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 04:02 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 04:02 PM

I basically have no image editing experience.

So inevitably anything I try will look like shit.

What do I do?

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 04:07 PM

You don't know how to crop an image? .-.

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 04:07 PM

No. At least, I'm pretty sure I don't.

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 04:08 PM

I guess I'll do this for now and show you how to do it later. Even my grandma know how to do that boi. :p

Download Paint.net for now

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 04:09 PM

I have pdn

that's how i made the textures in the first place

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 04:09 PM

Ah good. that's an easy but functional image editor.

Before I started school and began using Photoshop, I used PDN for everything.

It has its flaws and limits, but it gets the job done. Especially with its robust plugin system.

Even now I use it more than I use Photoshop solely because it's a lot more lightweight and doesn't take like ten minutes to open. :p

Unless I have a job that REQUIRES photoshop's ludicrous array of tools, I still always default to PDN

Speaking of, I may use that for the Rahi spread

Cause Peri seems to think I was thinking of a catalogue or comic image

But if it was an 01 catalogue, we have the style guide to rebuild that

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 04:57 PM

New image for the Turaga. Other one is impossible to crop square

What entry is this for? Amaja Circle?

@The Cap'm (Reese)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 04:58 PM

yes

thus the filename

aside from the ussal crab one which I forgot to rename before sending, they all have the names they need for the game to display them

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:05 PM

Attachment: lomnglossary.7z (2.06 MB)

All set

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:07 PM

don't these need to be tgas

or something like that

I'm remembering this now

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:08 PM

I wasn't looking at the format when I saved them. I had assumed you already took care of that

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:08 PM

no

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:08 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:08 PM

I got the vanilla pictures

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:11 PM

Attachment: lomnglossary.7z (4.47 MB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:24 PM

the mata nui art is a dds

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:24 PM

Yes?

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:24 PM

it isn't showing up in-game

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:24 PM

wot

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:25 PM

tgas are what it loads

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:25 PM

The rest of the game supports DDS just fine

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:25 PM

and it's the only one not showing up, so

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:26 PM

Attachment: Mata_Nui.tga (80.35 KB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:29 PM

there we go

full gallery

i'll commit it now

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:29 PM

Nice

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:30 PM

Done

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:38 PM

Attachment: Rahi.tga (659.86 KB)

There ya go

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:39 PM

~~Bruh you assume I want to change it from daily dose~~

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:42 PM

Oh yeah

We decided on that

:p

The Cap'm (Reese) 15-Apr-20 05:43 PM

I mean, that image is 100% the one they were going to use

But I find this funnier

V A H K I T I 15-Apr-20 05:43 PM

Ye

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-20 06:43 PM

So looking through things here on bump maps cause I'm curious, the game has absolutely zero code for them. I'm not sure if we could even begin to implement that. The only thing it has is some data refs for all the different material channels:

.data:00736C78 dd offset aAmbient_1 ; "ambient" .data:00736C7C dd offset aDiffuse_0 ; "diffuse" .data:00736C80 dd offset aSpecular_0 ; "specular" .data:00736C84 dd offset aShininess_0 ; "shininess" .data:00736C88 dd offset aShininessstren_0 ; "shininessStrength" .data:00736C8C dd offset aSelfillum_0 ; "selfIllum" .data:00736C90 dd offset aOpacity_0 ; "opacity" .data:00736C94 dd offset aFilter_0 ; "filter" .data:00736C98 dd offset aBump_0 ; "bump" .data:00736C9C dd offset aReflection_0 ; "reflection" .data:00736CA0 dd offset aRefraction_0 ; "refraction" .data:00736CA4 dd offset aDisplacement_0 ; "displacement"

@benji What do you think?

benji 16-Apr-20 07:11 PM

I'm pretty sure they weren't referenced from the .x files, iirc. That's all I've got.

V A H K I T I 16-Apr-20 07:11 PM

Hmm

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:16 AM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) I just noticed a goof in your box

The hard edge on the Kini Nui there doesn't look quite right

:p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:18 AM

mightve removed it awhile ago and after I decided I was a bad boy i forgot to put it back lol

ooor i missed a layer

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:18 AM

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:18 AM

hmm that wasnt me

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:19 AM

I mean, I pulled the PSD directly from your drive link

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:19 AM

im assuming you checked it against the style guide

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:19 AM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:19 AM

yuh

no no I mean I removed the other side but then put it back i dont remember touching this side

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:20 AM

Ah

Also do you have PSDs for the disks? Just trying to make some album art for the new soundtrack release

Decided to redo it

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:21 AM

I do actually but theyre close to being finished

I remember leaving them at a point I can pick up and polish later

we can do that now

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:22 AM

As much as I hate to sidetrack you from the FMV, we have been trying to get the box and contents finished for literal years so sure. :p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:23 AM

my upscaler isnt workin rn so ive been trying to do whatelse I can

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:23 AM

Re: the thing about the HUD in general, If you want to try your hand at redoing some of the elements there too, by all means. Just remember that the health/energy does have an anmation from te alpha which we will be porting

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:24 AM

Im thinking about contacting some people to be able to print it on actual box stock. I think I made up my mind on how the internal box will be because I just cannot find what it looks like nor do I really care at this point lol

not that I dont care. I dont care about such a tiny detail

Yuh one of my favorite things from the alpha

the spinnin head

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:25 AM

Ye, we got that semi-functional yesterday in rebuilt

It has some issues, but I'm confident it can be worked out

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:26 AM

wont be long knowing yall

did you want the CD art or the jewel case art?

and with the Kini nui, I can cut out the bricks on either side if were not satisifed. It always bothered me too but I kept it for authenticity

infact the jewel case art has one side removed iirc

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:29 AM

Ye, that would be helpful

I'm gonna make the new soundtrack art basically the same as the box art but with some extra text

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:29 AM

you got it so youll want the jewel case

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:30 AM

Ye

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:31 AM

adobe saw I dont have a genuine copy lol so i gotta install a better one

but I got the thing you require

https://we.tl/t-zBdJjInUe6

CD case cover.psd

1 file sent via WeTransfer, the simplest way to send your files around the world

The cd cover doesnt have the brick part removed. I was thinking the SE double disc jewel case

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:33 AM

Thank

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:37 AM

once I reinstall photoshop ill cut those nasty boys off

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:44 AM

nice

Hmm... I'm not sure I like that the jewel case is just kinda cropped from the box like that. The spacing looks weird. Let me see what I can do here

Something like this looks much better

Even spacing on all sides of the logo plus the Toa relative to the bottom of the image

Also I noticed the logo is slightly different between the box and your jewel case

We should only be using one. Which is the one you prefer the most?

IIRC the one on the box is the most accurate

For context on the kini nui thing btw, this is the original image

So it definitely shouldn't be that visible, aha

What it looks like happened if I had to take a guess is that you somehow erased the existing layer mask from the style guide source

This is what happens when that's gone

Yep, the mask is there, but it's not the same mask

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

That explains why it's a lot clearer than it should be behind the dust too

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:59 AM

ah shit my b. least it was caught

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:59 AM

Attachment: 1030_002.PSD (7.11 MB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 09:59 AM

looks much better now

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 09:59 AM

Here's the original PSD for that image

I haven't adjusted the box art yet, I'll leave that to you since you probably have it open

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:00 AM

i will very soon reinstalling photoshop

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:00 AM

Aight

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:05 AM

watch out for the resampling on the LEGO logo looks like it fucked the border a bit

might just be the screenshot

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:05 AM

If it did, it's no different than the box itself

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:06 AM

shiiit then i gotta fix that

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:06 AM

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:07 AM

fucking photoshop

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:07 AM

I'll leave the jewel case to you then. You know how I have it cropped here

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:07 AM

okay ill fix those and the layer issue

and the fuuuucking lego logo

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:07 AM

:p

Founds some new art to use for the album art, and god DAMN waifu 2x did a good job of it

Original:

Upscaled:

It's a little weird in places but it's generally good

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:12 AM

Ive been using ESRGAN and a model called DigitalFrames

its for animation but its the best thing ive ever seen in a minute

https://imgsli.com/MTE3NDI

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:13 AM

Neat. Is that the one that's not working for you right now?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:14 AM

yeah because its mostly python and requires a lot of addons

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:14 AM

.-.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:14 AM

Its on my end its something Im not understanding

mostly because Im not a programmer/not much knowledge of these things

needs like zxpython and gitbash and like one other thing

actually the lego logo looks good on my end so it might be ps adjusting to the dpi on your monitor

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:19 AM

.-.

I mean the actual pixels are different, it's not just my display.

7 on one side 11 on the other

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:21 AM

ooh shit on mine too

shit

fuuuuck

mayb ill trim it lol

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:21 AM

:p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:21 AM

could be the original image

definitely that

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:25 AM

I'm working on ESRGAN btw. Will let you know if I encounter issues

What did you get hung up on?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:30 AM

I use DataGAN which gives me a gui

using test.py doesnt launch

and neither does DataGAN

also something might not be coming into my project file correctly on PS. Building is still pretty visible. could be background?

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:31 AM

No it's definitely the mask

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:32 AM

I just copied over the style guide psd fresh

Its better

meaning the background is making it more apparent than just the .psd on its own

because the style guide has a transparent background

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:33 AM

Still doesn't look right. Even with no background in the original PSD it looks better

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:33 AM

ok ill keep tinkering

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:34 AM

This is the mask you should have over the temple

Can you confirm that's present?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:36 AM

maybe, how can i view just the mask?

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:36 AM

The channels panel

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:37 AM

omg lol look at this

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:37 AM

?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:37 AM

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:37 AM

BOI

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:37 AM

thats why

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:37 AM

You fuckin dingus.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:38 AM

and thats my latest import too

think it mighta been photoshop

but im not entirely sure

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:38 AM

:p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:39 AM

thats the only mask not scaled quite strange

this layer has 'advanced blending options' so that may have prevented it from scaling with the rest of the image

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:42 AM

Got esrgan installed btw, and downloaded digitalrames. Just getting pytorch now

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 10:44 AM

My assumption was right it doesnt like to scale with the rest of the image

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:02 AM

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:02 AM

Nice

Much better

Also

wew

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:05 AM

damn first try idk why my shit is fucked

i uninstalled python. I had several versions. Still no dice

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:05 AM

What kinda error you getting?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:05 AM

i reinstalled it obvi

im not getting an error the window just wont work

wont open

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:05 AM

How are you trying to open it?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:06 AM

through the executable

I have a grudge hold on

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:06 AM

???

Well that was a waste of time

It actually looks exponentially worse than what waifu2x output

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:07 AM

try another model

like i said digital frames is for animation

had some luck with CGI but its gotta be specific

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:07 AM

it also didn't retain transparency properly. Is that a model thing?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:08 AM

thats an upscaling thing. most dont like transparency

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:08 AM

Wonderful

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:09 AM

its finicky. Most good upscales are half AI half human input to really make it the best it can be

just takes the load off

what garners the best results is mixing different methods, when it comes to video anyway

looking more closely at waifus upscale honestly its pretty on par. its slightly better but it really blurs it. Look at onua its almost like the blacks are crushed leaving very little detail.

let me throw it on topaz see how it is. Whats the .psd called for the runny bois

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:15 AM

Attachment: 1010_005.PSD (2.66 MB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:16 AM

much obliged

in terms of upscale if we dont like any method whats great about ESRGAN is we can train it with bonk stuff to make a personal model to upscale this content with

idk if you have seen the reuped upscaled video of all the bonk trailers on youtube. Those are gross and not really well done unfortunately. Once I hit a rut I was going to go through and do my own versions to better preserve them because ive seen some other channels use those videos and it makes me sad

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:19 AM

nice

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:23 AM

we got a lot of options. Training isnt too hard from what ive seen but then again ive never done it myself but I have good resources if we decided to go down that route

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:24 AM

Well if you can show me wht's wrong on your end I can get you up and running

Chances are it's probably an error with python's path. I would try dragging datagan.py onto the python exe

That's how I got it working.

I have python 2 installed for LOMNTool, and historically my PC doesn't like having both python versions on the path, even if they have different names.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:27 AM

i was told if i open the terminal window I can manually type out the script and itll read me the error but I cant figure out which terminal it wants me to have open lol (edited)

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:27 AM

Well just try my thing first

I also found it doesn't work at all with the current master of esrgan

You have to use the one included with datagan

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:29 AM

Ahh you know what that could be it

ill delete the regular esrgan I have

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:30 AM

This looks pretty okay from waifu2x, but if you can make it look better after this is up and running I'll replace it

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:30 AM

same thing flashes terminal and then closes

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:30 AM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:30 AM

yea doesnt look too bad considering how low res the psd is

can only do so much with what its given

Ill see if I can tinker, what are your current waifu settings

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:30 AM

Anyways are you doing the thing I said dragging and dropping? I'm still not clear on how you're trying to run this

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:31 AM

yea I just dragged and dropped

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:31 AM

You're using python 7?

er

3

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:31 AM

yes 3.7

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:32 AM

Is there an error in the terminal before it closes?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:32 AM

nope it flashes

i opened the datagan.py and copied and pasted it into the terminal

unexpected indent?

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:34 AM

THat's not how you run a python file. :p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:34 AM

Lol shows you what I know

this is all a fresh install I wiped everything before this

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:41 AM

Not sure what to suggest tbh

Also settings, right

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:42 AM

the portable version has more options if you download it. took me awhile to download

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:43 AM

oh? Maybe I'll leave it to you then

Since you already have it

:p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:44 AM

meant took me awhile to find* and sure if youd prefer. Ill see if I can get any better results

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:44 AM

aight

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:08 PM

this is my Topaz test

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 12:09 PM

Hmm, looks better in some places, worse in others

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:09 PM

Where do you see worse. I see improvement in the shadows on tahus face but havent been able to look at it that long

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 12:12 PM

It has a ton more artifacting than waifu's output, which is especially noticeable on the other masks. The ridges on the Pakari are all garbled, and Lewa's eyes are bleeding into his mask.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:15 PM

yea topaz is never good with artifacting. Waifu has a tendency to kinda blur everything making it look clean but lose detail in the process, topaz tries to increase detail but ends up artifacting in the process. theres an option to adjust that ill send some tests

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 12:15 PM

Well granted Waifu only upscaled to 2x, but even so there's a clear difference that blur doesn't acount for

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:16 PM

yea some better interp for sure

yea im always disappointed with topaz. The artifacting on tahus arm sold it out for me.

i dont think im gonna use it again tbh each update keeps adding more and more unnecessary stuff

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 12:19 PM

oof

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:20 PM

best I can get it

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 12:20 PM

Yeah that's still not great compared to what waifu outputs. I would try with the downloaded version of that you have

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:23 PM

this is my waifu. name has settings

Attachment: Runny_boisUpPhotoscalettax4.000000.tif (4.25 MB)

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 12:25 PM

Hmm.. still looks a little weird. I guess it's just the amount at which it has to upscale it?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:25 PM

yea diminishing returns

lower res hides a lot more

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 12:25 PM

I'll probably just go with what I have here in that case.

I actually kinda cheated to get this result. I just ran it through waifu at 2x twice

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:26 PM

i have a few different models to test

lol thatll do it

im also only magnifying ill denoise as well see if that changes thing

yea doesnt look much different think thats as good as itll get lol

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 12:31 PM

Aight, I'll work with what's here then. Was worth a shot anyways

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 12:32 PM

best to try the options available to make sure we got the best we can

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 01:03 PM

ye

So what's your current project then? The jewel cases/cds was it?

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 01:26 PM

Thoughts @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Apr-20 01:33 PM

are we gonna have a separate cover for the OST that's exclusive to rebuilt once it exists

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 01:45 PM

Probably

Once that happens I'll probably split some of the tracks into that as a deluxe edition or something

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Apr-20 01:45 PM

ah

once you're done can I get a zip

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 02:07 PM

️

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10QjKIGHvGIpNx6kNIgxEKfsAByS8z04B/view?usp=sharing

The Legend of Mata Nui.7z

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Apr-20 02:07 PM

yeet

Grow the nanobots up! Grow them in the cracks in the sidewalk! Wind the nanobots up! Wind them up, and ask them a question! Raise the yellow bots up! Raise them up, and make them respect us! Wind the marching bots up! Wind them up, and wish them away!

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 03:02 PM

shit

I was gonna send a message saying I was gonna brb

little late for that now

but im back

in terms of the cover, I like it all mostly. The spacing in david and the text above is a bit much. If you like the spacing I like it a bit closer. Everything else looks good. Let me get you the fixed lego logo

hmm logo is fine it must be photoshop then

Here go ahead and replace it. Use bicubic if it gives you the option to choose what algo you can use to downsample

My logos look good on my end, not sure why they keep going poopy

and yes im working on finalizing the CD art

or I am now I should say

This is where I left off

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 07:05 PM

nice

I think I know why you left off there too

That nobua needs replacing

The Rebuilt model's been done since then

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 07:19 PM

sounds right lolol

The Shadow Emperor 28-Apr-20 07:20 PM

@Grampa Walker have you fixed the Hau eyes yet? they might want to have it for this

Grampa Walker 28-Apr-20 07:23 PM

I haven't yet, but that is most certainly on the list.

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 07:39 PM

What's wrong with the eyes?

Grampa Walker 28-Apr-20 10:20 PM

They eyes are a bit too angular at the inner edge. Even the MNOG Hau had rounded edges at the inner eye, but the LoMN Hau has a pointed inner edge. I'm thinking of keeping that on the Makuta Hau since it differentiates it, and looks more menacing, but on the Toa, and Matoran Hau, I'm planning to fix that.

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:21 PM

I see

Well the sooner you can get that up, the sooner we can finalize the disk art here

Grampa Walker 28-Apr-20 10:21 PM

Sure thing, I'll just need to dig that up, and fix it up. I'll probably do that tomorrow, if that's fine.

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:21 PM

Ye that's gud. :p

Grampa Walker 28-Apr-20 10:22 PM

Fantastic, alrighty then. (edited)

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 10:22 PM

️

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Apr-20 10:23 PM

Around the dinner table, a family says grace, and the son sees the secret signal on his sister's face. Dad smiles at his wife... Daughter reaches for the knife...

Aw yeah, what is that certain je ne se quoi? Aw yeah, it's a stone cold coup d'état! (Stone cold coup d'état) A stone cold coup d'état!

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:51 PM

I was a napping boi

Hello

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:51 PM

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:51 PM

So you're satisfied with the rest of the disc art?

I'm not really happy with the dust I wanna fix it more

I've been exhausted all day idk what it is. For weeks I've been struggling to sleep maybe it all caught up to me.

Then had a really emotional dream

V A H K I T I 28-Apr-20 11:53 PM

oh?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Apr-20 11:57 PM

Crazy shit dawg idk what's happening but the sleep is welcome

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 11:36 AM

Also yea, the dust could use a tiny bit of cleanup

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 11:37 AM

yea kinda poopy

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 11:38 AM

I'll update the render today once @Grampa Walker fixes up the hau

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 11:39 AM

you got it

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 02:45 PM

Fuckin.... I'm pissed rn

There is a much higher quality render out there somewhere of the runny bois cause I just remembered THIS image in the game files.

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 02:46 PM

oof

well we don't have it, do we?

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 02:46 PM

no

Also there are REALLY NICE QUALITY stills from the opening fmv

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 02:52 PM

also also that area there

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 02:52 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 02:52 PM

that's nowhere in the final

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 02:52 PM

Wot

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 02:52 PM

nor is it similar to any final area

the waterfall image from the FMV above

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 02:52 PM

What about it?

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 02:52 PM

It's not like any area in-game

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 02:53 PM

None of them are?

I don't think they're meant to be

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 02:53 PM

Not entirely no, but I recall at least the Miru pillars in there

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 02:54 PM

those are all screen caps somewhere in the game

or from somewhere?

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 02:55 PM

those are FMV stills in the Art BLK iirc

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 02:55 PM

gotcha

unfortunate we cant get a cleaner less compressed version than what we have

tbh all those screenshots look on par with what we have. Theres the same level of compression, like in the canister shot

probably placebo because this is a still and not a moving image

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 03:02 PM

Also I just noticed this extra little hud element in the art blk. there are 3 of them.

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:02 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:02 PM

Maybe early energy stuff?

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:03 PM

well it's oriented to the right, which is odd (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:03 PM

maybe we can incorporate it late game or somthin

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:03 PM

I could see that as something with either masks or glyphs

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:03 PM

I mean I was hoping for a proper air meter somehow

instead of numbers

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:03 PM

oh maybe its for the bosses

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 03:04 PM

This one's called lego_slider_Selected which lines up with lego_slider_bg which in turn is the one used for loading screens

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:04 PM

oh wait

That's used

Front end

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 03:04 PM

?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:04 PM

oooh

yup

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:04 PM

Slider bars that select volume, gamma level, etc

V A H K I T I 29-Apr-20 03:04 PM

o

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:05 PM

still though I think later down the road a proper air meter would be nice

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:06 PM

yeah

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:06 PM

can slide in from the right and tick down per second (using blue circles or something)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:06 PM

maybe a bit more air too lol

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:06 PM

Maybe have that be under the energy meter?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:06 PM

had some frustration there during my playthrough

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:07 PM

You mean as part of the existing hp/energy graphic or

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:07 PM

when you go underwater, it slides in under it

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:07 PM

okay good

that would work as well

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:07 PM

kinda like how the bubbles appear in Minecraft

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:08 PM

I think you get ten seconds underwater, right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Apr-20 03:08 PM

dunno

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:10 PM

doesnt feel like it

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:10 PM

well the actual drowning part is 5 seconds

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:11 PM

do the bubbles restart or do they only add a few seconds?

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:11 PM

They refill the meter entirely

timed it out

ten seconds

technically 11 since it only kills you after 1 goes away

so that'd be a ten circle long bar

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:14 PM

we could have it be 5 and have it half time

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:14 PM

or a five circle bar that darkens halfway on each circle

like the normal hp/energy bar (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:15 PM

Thats more consistent with the rest of the hud

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:15 PM

yea

yknow

here's an idea

How about instead of drowning instantly killing you, it ticks down your health circle-by-circle

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:17 PM

I like that a lot more

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:17 PM

That'd be a hell of a modification

but I think it might be less frustrating to play with that

you'd essentially have a maximum of 7 extra seconds depending on if you did quests; 4 more if you didn't

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:18 PM

theres lots of crashes I experienced immediately dying from running out

so that would help that a bit

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Apr-20 03:19 PM

This'd be a lot of work in all likelyhood

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Apr-20 03:19 PM

yea its one thing to throw ideas around and another in the programming execution lol

and this game doesnt like to be told what to do

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-May-20 10:30 PM

Moving this here since it isn't relevant to general. Editing this old HUD together in PDN makes me realize how tiny these graphics are

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-May-20 11:23 PM

Yea and the anisotropic filtering just muddies it

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-May-20 11:23 PM

the what

V A H K I T I 01-May-20 11:23 PM

U r bab

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-May-20 11:24 PM

We've established this, yes

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-May-20 11:29 PM

The texture filtering

It applies an algorithm that kind of mushes the texture. I'm not math man but it makes pixels less distinct

I really wanna see this game without it. But it looks like it always had it. Liam sent a photo of an early controls screen and the textures look like they're being filtered even at low res

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-May-20 11:32 PM

well another thing is that none of these textures have transparency; I've edited out the black borders and whitespace

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-May-20 11:33 PM

What textures are these from? Did you make them?

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-May-20 11:33 PM

no

They're in the alpha's Hud folder

UTTER_BODGE 01-May-20 11:33 PM

that may be a side effect of how you're opening them - I've ran into that with this game's UI

i.e. paint.net doesn't recognize the transparency

but gimp does

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-May-20 11:34 PM

That sounds vaugely familiar I think I ran into something similar. Maybe a program I used just stretched the transparency

Meaning they filled it with nearest color

UTTER_BODGE 01-May-20 11:35 PM

yep, gimp opens them a-ok @The Cap'm (Reese)

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-May-20 11:35 PM

Neat.

UTTER_BODGE 01-May-20 11:35 PM

paint.net doesn't

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-May-20 11:35 PM

Yeah, I know.

Well, I'm not installing that just to do this again, so :v

Though while you're there, could you open Ball.tga for me

just want to verify something

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-May-20 11:37 PM

You could do a batch export in another file type to save a bit of time

UTTER_BODGE 01-May-20 11:54 PM

sure one sec

(I'm only kinda here lol)

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-May-20 11:55 PM

okay good I was right on that one

thank

UTTER_BODGE 01-May-20 11:55 PM

alpha channel

just for funsies

alpha channel for that one

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-May-20 12:53 AM

And to cap this off, a gif :p

sweg (Andrew) 02-May-20 12:59 AM

~~hud for ants~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-May-20 01:02 AM

This has been my LoMN contribution for the day

@V A H K I T I ~~are you proud of me father~~ (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 02-May-20 01:06 AM

Maybe the big combined guys use this hud

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-May-20 01:07 AM

Well, it'd be pretty jarring for the HUD to change so drastically for the Kaita

Honestly if we were to use this it'd just probably be an easter egg or something, and even then that's something we wouldn't bother with for a long while

But hey, here's the old HUD in a slightly better quality + the actual animation. Whee.

V A H K I T I 02-May-20 08:06 AM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) While we're waiting on Walker for the final models to make the CD art, is there anything else you need for the manual?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 02-May-20 08:14 AM

Nowp I don't think so. I'll take a peak through and make sure. I'm probably gonna be indisposed for the week my gf is over and I haven't seen her in over a month

V A H K I T I 02-May-20 08:15 AM

Fair

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 02-May-20 12:27 PM

I'll probably be able to tinker a bit but no promises

rob the corn lover 03-May-20 07:23 PM

Heart needs to be 3d ish

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-May-20 07:26 PM

?

V A H K I T I 06-May-20 11:00 PM

So looking through this one guy's prototype gallery, I found the highest resolution image yet of LOMN's alternate box art. @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-May-20 12:47 AM

The cover Tahu is in the style guide but I think the other renders aren't available. They have a shadow added

V A H K I T I 07-May-20 12:48 AM

oh?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-May-20 12:48 AM

Idk the file name but I saw it going through the style guide

V A H K I T I 07-May-20 12:49 AM

I don't recall seeing that one

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-May-20 12:49 AM

When I hop back in I'll find it

V A H K I T I 07-May-20 12:49 AM

Nice

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-May-20 12:51 AM

If interested I could change out Tahu and throw shadows over the renders to kinda recreate this look. Could do it for the 'rebuilt' alt box

V A H K I T I 07-May-20 12:51 AM

could do

V A H K I T I 08-May-20 04:31 PM

Any updates on this? @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 08-May-20 06:55 PM

I'm still MIA until Monday but after that I'm hopping in

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 03:46 PM

Here I am

waiting for this moment to last

living on the music so fine

Okay im throwing the render in

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 04:10 PM

Nice

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 04:10 PM

Nice timing

I opened this window for no reason and there you were

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 04:11 PM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 04:45 PM

I think it looks fine

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 04:45 PM

Nice

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 04:45 PM

Ill redo the dutht

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 04:46 PM

the wot

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 04:46 PM

speak my message out loud

The Cap'm (Reese) 11-May-20 04:46 PM

Dust.

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 04:46 PM

o

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:02 PM

oof

nvm thats bad

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:02 PM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:02 PM

I am trying to fix my brush

The one I had was good but that was on another computer in another version of PS

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:23 PM

thoughts comments suggestions?

im still tweaking it a bit but i like the brush

I have the saturation and brightness jittering to give it some more depth and not look so flat

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:29 PM

my main thought is the render itself could really use some better shading tbh

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:35 PM

Well the shading itself is based on the shading of existing renders from the game

Absolutely it could look better, but the OFFICIAL renders don't

Not by much anyways

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:38 PM

the lighting is waaaaaaay better in that one

it's super harsh in ours

also typically the discs had renders with completely separate models from the game

often put together by folks at lego media directly

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:39 PM

Those bump maps are really irking me

Maybe I can fix them or make new ones though Im not really sure how I could

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:40 PM

If we're using the game models those aren't up for removal

Cleaning up? For sure (edited)

I agree they do need it

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:41 PM

If we had even higher poly models we could generate some from the available polygons, leaving very little work for us to do

I think I have some of the textures still laying around

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:41 PM

like for example https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/sdUAAOSwjvJZOwy8/s-l400.jpg

that's not a model digital domain made

that's a model for the box art made/contracted to be made by lego media

https://i1.wp.com/bricksafe.com/files/le717/LEGO-Gaming/LEGO-Racers/Jewel-Case/Disc-cover-art-straightened.jpg

ditto

you can actually spot them reusing the same base minifig models between promo art/box art/etc for games like that

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:43 PM

I think the lighting can be softened. I dont know much about lighting but I learned a bit going to school, specifically for interview shots

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:43 PM

also in the manuals, on the lego media website

pretty much everywhere

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:44 PM

I mean to be fair

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:44 PM

would fall in line with the box art. I personally like the personal touch of the CD renders

having them been made by us, but still follow the style guide a bit closer

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:45 PM

These are TECHNICALLY not the game models, and official renders used by saffire of the game models are lower poly than ours (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:45 PM

exactly

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:45 PM

So we can probably get away with it barring a bit of cleanup

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:45 PM

so its not general art used by all the promotional material

but still specific to this game and only can be done by us

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:46 PM

https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/assets.box.es/i/000/454/169/original.jpg

generally the art like this was done by the same folks who lego media hired to also do books and whatnot

iirc the guy who did that very LI2 box art/CD art also did 3D art for a bunch of books that included a canceled(?) bionicle book

and then the art for that got reused elsewhere

peri would remember more

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:46 PM

Are these photos you have taken?

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:47 PM

I'm finding photos online of the same discs I personally own because I'm lazy

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:47 PM

gotcha lol thought id ask because im missing a bit of information on what the boxes internally looked like to hold the games but I think we have talked about this before

idk a lot of names pass through here in this discord lol

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:49 PM

https://images.launchbox-app.com/e8b8c989-9652-424a-a86a-037c64442601.jpg

^ same model is in the manual and stuff

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-ApmsxWkAAXD55.jpg

and it's the same base minifig model lego media used for loads of things (edited)

https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/6734-lego-rock-raiders-playstation-front-cover.jpg

same minifig model on the box art too

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:50 PM

Earlier LEGO seemed pretty harsh in its lighting. Still direct but as time went on it became a bit softer

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:51 PM

anyway, I'm just saying there's a 99% chance lego media would have just used the same models (if not the exact same renders) as the box art for the CD art

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:51 PM

Current soundtrack box art btw. So we're at least making the most of the style guide for that

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:52 PM

also I'd like to mention that the time this game released their style guide got to be less strict

after harry potter they just kinda did whatever

specially after they moved away from a PC focus into the consoles

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:55 PM

And then TT happened

And nothing more need be said

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:55 PM

so we have some creative liberty I feel would be wasted if we didnt take advantage of it

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 05:56 PM

I mean this was 2001

https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/orsAAOSw8fJbdY89/$/Lot-of-2-LEGO-Racers-2-PC-2001-_1.jpg

https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/assets.box.es/i/000/454/169/original.jpg

likely would have been more along the lines of these

at the end of the day though I just feel like the current render we have has really awkward shading/lighting lol

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:57 PM

I think its important to retain the original style as best as possible, and I have been making sure thats the case with what I have created. Even against some of the wishes of Liam lol. Some things need some tweaking and I think the lighting can be adjusted

that and the bump maps certainly. Ill test some more dust and then take a peak at the bump maps

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 05:59 PM

I'll have a look at it when I have time then

The lighting

That is

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 05:59 PM

Yuh i figured so

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 06:00 PM

Fyi here's an old render that I did back in 2018 when I was still replicating the glossary renders

This was however well before I knew how to do glowing emissive materials or depth map shadows

So things are harsher still

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 06:01 PM

also it looks like the bump maps on the right side of his body are inverted

his left

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 06:01 PM

shadows applying to the eyes

but not bad

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 06:01 PM

Yep

As I said, this was before I knew how to do emissive

:p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 06:01 PM

well in PS lighting would be applied

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 06:01 PM

I mean yea that's how we did it then

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 06:01 PM

yuh

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 06:02 PM

But it's just as easy to do in the materials

I just didn't know that when I made this

:p

My later renders look a lot better in that regard IMO.

The glowing is all just materials

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:14 PM

There

I like this one

The axle holes on the tops of his shoulder looks proper on his right but his left is definitely inverted. The squares are another look point, inverted to one another

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 07:17 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677702510588198932/709525282444542574/Onua.png

a pretty clear example

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:18 PM

They look worse inverted then when they are displayed correctly

theyre easier on the eyes, to me anyway

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:19 PM

I'm not sure how they're getting inverted though is the thing

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:19 PM

could be Maya?

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:19 PM

Doubtful

It would more likely have to be a quirk with the model itself.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:23 PM

Interesting. Is it something that would be easier fixed with new maps?

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:23 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

we do need those anyways though

Actually if we're doing this for box renders, we should make proper normal maps

As in take the models into substance painter or something like that

Do it to modern standards

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:24 PM

I agree

Would that be able to be done in blender??

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:25 PM

I don't think so

But substance painter has free student licenses (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:25 PM

Oooh shit

ez

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:25 PM

Yeet

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:27 PM

Needs an account I think I could get it my school email should still work

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:27 PM

Ye

YOu can always just make a new oe too

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:28 PM

Thats true

Oh yea doesnt need an .edu

"You are entitled to a free personal license, valid one year (renewable), for use at home or on a personal machine This license should be used for personal learning purpose only. It cannot be used on the schools computers or to teach. For those usages, please contact us to discuss Educational Licenses"

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:31 PM

Huh

Didn't know there was a free license AND an educational one

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:31 PM

Yea its the fine print in the education sign up page

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:31 PM

~~Looks like Adobe hasn't reached far enough into this pie to ruin it yet~~

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:41 PM

ah shit

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:42 PM

Wot

It never asked me for that

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:42 PM

Might be new this year or something

or did you just sign up for it

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:42 PM

I just got it back in... November I think?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:44 PM

huh must have just been added/you skipped it some how and didnt know

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:45 PM

.-.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 07:45 PM

I found a patch on TPB

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 07:45 PM

nice

benji 11-May-20 08:30 PM

I personally think the purple mask on the current disc art is way too shockingly pink, maybe it could be paled out a tad

Also, inverted bump maps always happens when you mirror a model

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 08:32 PM

It has to have been mirrored by default then.

benji 11-May-20 08:32 PM

That's why modern game engines (I'm thinking of Frostbite in particular) have a BitangentSign attribute for their vertices, so they can swap the normal direction back to normal for the mirrored faces

Yep

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 08:32 PM

Cause that glossary clone render used the original game model

benji 11-May-20 08:33 PM

I wouldn't expect an engine in the early 2000s that didn't even use the bump maps ingame to know about the issue

However, I did discover a workaround in Maya

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 08:33 PM

Oh? Do tell

I will be needing this knowledge

:p

benji 11-May-20 08:34 PM

Let me get to my PC and I'll try it on onua

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 08:34 PM

Aight

benji 11-May-20 08:37 PM

also I kinda want @UTTER_BODGE to see it too, I feel like it's the sort of thing they'd appreciate

because it's pretty galaxy brain

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 08:38 PM

:v

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 08:39 PM

oh boy :D

benji 11-May-20 08:40 PM

(I'm going to screenshare me doing it, because it'd be a hassle to type out)

benji 11-May-20 08:50 PM

aight

trick still works

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 08:51 PM

\o/

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 08:51 PM

benji 11-May-20 08:51 PM

now how do I go live

I'm in Litestone voice

J O I N M E

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 08:52 PM

O you're streaming? I thought you were doing screenshots. I can't do calls rn. :/

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 08:52 PM

could record it maybe?

gimme a sec

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 08:53 PM

Thank

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 09:00 PM

recorded

V A H K I T I 11-May-20 09:02 PM

UTTER_BODGE 11-May-20 09:10 PM

it'll be here once youtube processes it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMxo0nCwCPI

jamessterV2

flippin' makes me feel good

still processing but should be watchable now

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 11-May-20 09:28 PM

hell yeah

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 07:19 PM

My computer has been wiped and I am starting fresh meaning that I can get cracking onto ESRGAN and making the new FMVs

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:20 PM

sweet

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:20 PM

yeet

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:20 PM

i have a possibly dumb idea for the hud changes

could the energy color also change to be the same as the toa's eye color?

eg. gali has yellow energy circles to accompany the yellow eyes

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:21 PM

Probably

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:21 PM

Tahu

:v

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:21 PM

It uses RGB like the tokens IIRC

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:22 PM

TAHU.

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:22 PM

oh right >.<

too much red

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 10:22 PM

Reb

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:23 PM

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:24 PM

~~dumb and dumber idea, change energy circles to be same color as toa's energy ball hud graphic~~

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:24 PM

I mean Tahu could be orange

lel

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:25 PM

I really don't think this is necessary still (edited)

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:25 PM

pohatu already has orange

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:25 PM

The ammo graphic already changes to show your Toa's specific element

plus the eyes on the HUD will signify the Toa

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:25 PM

tru

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:25 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:26 PM

so mask energy should just stay the same color

~~the only dumber thing was my idea to have the old HUD as a cheat, which I'm pretty sure isn't remotely possible~~

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:27 PM

~~tales of the tohunga hud addition when~~

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 10:27 PM

Id love to see the old hud implemented somehow

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:28 PM

It's already like half done

And I got the help menu in today

We just need a new graphic for it

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 10:28 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:28 PM

wait ou're serious

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:28 PM

oh yeah, so with the wave of rebuilt progress getting made recently (drowning mechanics update, sound additions of unused sounds), new laser graphics for onua and tahu when

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:29 PM

Who's serious

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:29 PM

you

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 10:29 PM

me?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:29 PM

ono

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 10:29 PM

who?

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:29 PM

me? gongaga

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:29 PM

liam

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:29 PM

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-smith-me-gif-13425234

sweg (Andrew) 12-May-20 10:29 PM

https://tenor.com/view/gongaga-me-village-final-fantasy-gif-16997495

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:30 PM

are you actually saying maybe to the old hud thing i just said

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:30 PM

? If by old hud you mean the alpha sliding hud

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:30 PM

No

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:30 PM

Or you mean the PREalpha hud? (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 10:30 PM

he meant that

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:30 PM

The tech hud

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:31 PM

Yea no

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:31 PM

Yeah that's what I was saying

I don't think it's possible

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:31 PM

Oh I'm sure it is

just not easy

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:31 PM

You said half done and I was like wut

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:31 PM

Bear in mind a lot of the current hud is scripted

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:32 PM

thus my confusion

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:32 PM

?

y confus

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:35 PM

i know its scripted heavily so I was confused when you said "half done"

(sorry slow responses playing smash with friends)

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:36 PM

~~YOu doubt my ability?~~

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 10:36 PM

unacceptable

i expect immediate response

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:36 PM

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:38 PM

ANYWAYS.

Sus.

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:38 PM

rood

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:38 PM

door

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:38 PM

ree

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:38 PM

eer

V A H K I T I 12-May-20 10:39 PM

AAAA

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:39 PM

ZZZZ

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-May-20 10:39 PM

dude got us with a sus

god damn

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-May-20 10:39 PM

I hate memes, Dunban.

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-May-20 03:01 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Current help screen

Attachment: Help_Screen_US.tga (900.04 KB)

V A H K I T I 17-May-20 03:05 PM

o

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 17-May-20 03:06 PM

Thunks

The Cap'm (Reese) 17-May-20 03:06 PM

np

V A H K I T I 24-May-20 06:12 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Yo. :v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 24-May-20 06:26 PM

Hello

Drives still dead warm weather been working around the yard. But my new hard drive came in I just need to find a sata cable

Can't do much figuring those drives had all my project files so I will have to see if they're recoverable. If not once I get my surface from my gf after next weekend I'll be able to get back to it

I can nip away at the manual. Ill get on that tonight been trying to find something to motivate myself with

V A H K I T I 24-May-20 06:28 PM

Nice. :3

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 02-Jun-20 08:51 PM

OH MY GOD WERE GOOD

I got my surface back and I had a backup

Holy fuck

Okay so then I really didn't lose much of anything other than time

Tonight I'll hop in on that screen!

V A H K I T I 02-Jun-20 09:07 PM

V A H K I T I 03-Jun-20 07:20 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Suuup? :v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 03-Jun-20 08:00 PM

Hi sorry still getting shit togetherr

V A H K I T I 03-Jun-20 08:01 PM

:p

bon bon 05-Jun-20 06:50 PM

I found a hi res poster and managed to clean it up

I was using it for something else if someone wants it

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-20 06:51 PM

I mean the style guide has higher res even than that, and as a psd. :p

bon bon 05-Jun-20 06:51 PM

oh nice

sorry I had no idea lol

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 05-Jun-20 06:51 PM

I didn't know about the style guide either lol

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-20 06:52 PM

Bruh

You're using it for the box

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 05-Jun-20 06:52 PM

Lium showed me

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-20 06:52 PM

Oh

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 05-Jun-20 06:52 PM

I know

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-20 06:52 PM

I thought you didn't know NOW like wat.

xP

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 05-Jun-20 06:52 PM

Yea lol my b

Recovering files today

bon bon 05-Jun-20 06:54 PM

is the style guide linked here?

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-20 06:54 PM

They're all on BMP

bon bon 05-Jun-20 06:54 PM

tyvm

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-20 06:54 PM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:27 PM

okay so whats the direction for this help screen

do you want me to make something original or do you want to have an HD version of what we have

is there information missing that I need to add to it?

also the work I did on the box and the CD has been recovered so nothing lost

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:46 PM

Basically an HD version of the original, preferably with both 4:3 and widescreen options.

The original screen is from the alpha, so right away there will be mechanics missing

Even disregarding Rebuilt specific stuff.

(Eg: the new air meter)

Btw, if you feel like making new HD hud elements for those while you're at it, by all means

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:47 PM

Lol i was just typing out a message for that lol

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:47 PM

I'll still have to do masks myself, but other bits can be sourced from easier places

For the Mata head and bars you could probably just do an orthographic render from Stud.io

(Assuming Stud.io can do orthographic anyways, otherwise we'll just export the models I guess)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:49 PM

ill check and see

I know theres a program you can use to render stud.io stuff

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:49 PM

Actually to that end, the masks render a lot nicer in Stud.io than they do in Maya with their topology issues.

@Aurora Are you free? I have questions about Stud.io and the mask packs you currently use.

If we can replicate the look of the LOMN hud within Stud.io and render out animation frames from there, it would probably look a lot better than my attempts with Maya

Something about Stud.io's renderer just has a knack for hiding bad topology that I can't quite replicate in Maya

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:51 PM

I could probably animate it with photoshop. each frame is a separate file is it not?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:51 PM

It is, yes

Each mask has about 25 frames IIRC

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:51 PM

im not sure how itll export but photoshop has a built in animation thingy I messed with it a bit during school;

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:51 PM

Don't hurt me I'm sorry

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:51 PM

nani

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:51 PM

im sure I can just shit out the files

oh??

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:51 PM

Don't hurt me

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:52 PM

Out with it

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:52 PM

Wait the ping wasn't to murder me

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:52 PM

No?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:52 PM

bruh

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:52 PM

The mask pack is on reddit somewhere. I don't have a link. :0

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:53 PM

Well at this point I'm basically just asking for your knowledge on Stud.io

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:54 PM

https://www.reddit.com/user/SwampKryakwa probably somewhere in here

SwampKryakwa (u/SwampKryakwa) - Reddit

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:54 PM

Is it possible to tweak lighting and reflectivity in the renders?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:55 PM

oh does the lighting change with the animation pictures or was it just the one image spun

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:55 PM

?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:55 PM

meaning are the animation files unique or is it just the same hud file spun

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:56 PM

If you're asking if each frame is a separate file, then yes

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:56 PM

does the shadows on the mask change when spun

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:56 PM

No, but we kinda need to replicate them in Stud.io if we plan to use that at all

The masks have two light sources + ambient

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:57 PM

So the reflectivity is based on the material. Metalics are your best bet for silver 2001 masks.

The lighting I believe can be changed..?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:57 PM

would you prefer each frame be rerendered to accommodate for the shadow changes on the moving mask or should I just rotate the bitch in photoshop lol

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

"So, one of the things I’ve found out is that certain lighting settings (Building and Piazza, I believe) use HDR files for their lighting, and you can swap those out" - a friend

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

I'm not sure what you're trying to say Fraug

You can't rotate the subject of an image

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

okay let me figure out a better way of saying it

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

It's not a 3D model in photoshop

:v

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

Good luuuuuck

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

yea i know were in the same town different blocks lol

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

Byyyyye

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:58 PM

thanks bud

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:59 PM

Stud.io can use HDR files huh? That's.. somewhat useful actually.

Substance painter also uses those

Aurora 07-Jun-20 03:59 PM

I personally don't know how it all works

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 03:59 PM

oh shit!

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:59 PM

Maya can too

benji 07-Jun-20 03:59 PM

also yeah photoshop can open OBJ models in 3D

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 03:59 PM

Yeah it can, but you can't really tweak rendering

It's just for texturing IIRC

It's like budget substance painter

:p

Anyways yeah, it's worth a try if that's something stud.io supports.

HDR lights are really good

That's probably WHY Stud.io renders look so good actually.

I did the same thing with my spear of fusion and it looked marginally better

I may give that a try later with the BMOP masks in Maya

Just gotta finish these YuGiOh episodes for GP

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:01 PM

if you rotate the mask in stud.io the shadows will be cast differently on the face depending on its angle from origin

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:02 PM

The shadows don't change because the model changes unless you're moving the lights. Unless you're saying stud.io won't let you move one independent of the other? O_o

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:02 PM

so im asking if this is how the original anim files are OR did the developers just rotate the hud icon for the animation

unless the light source is dead center

am I making sense how can I explain better lol

the light source is slightly to the left of the subject

so the right side will be darker

if the animation is rendered out in stud.io that shouldnt change regardless of how the mask is positioned

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:05 PM

Right

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:05 PM

but if we just render one photo and I rotated it to match the animation the shadow would be inaccurate

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:06 PM

Okay I still don't get what you mean by "render one photo and rotate it" that's not how animation works.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:06 PM

doing it manually with photoshop

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:06 PM

You will have to rotate the MODEL and render 25 PHOTOS

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:07 PM

okay so I went a real roundabout way of getting that question answered lol

Chip 🐉🇬🇧 07-Jun-20 04:07 PM

Liam it's card time

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:07 PM

You do remember HOW the hud masks rotate right?

It's not just a spinning photo of a mask

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:07 PM

yea it flips out to the right

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:07 PM

...no

The mask model is rotated in a 360 degree spin

Over the course of 25 frames

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:08 PM

okay

I was seeing if the devs rerendered each frame or just took the hud icon and moved it 25 times

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:09 PM

But the latter is physically impossible

:v

Like if I took a picture of your face

I can't photoshop it into the back of your head

That's not how that works. :p

Chip 🐉🇬🇧 07-Jun-20 04:09 PM

25 frames? Amateurs Shoulda been 24 frames so it cleanly divides into 360 degrees

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:09 PM

now im lost lol

OH

were talking about the wrong things

I was refering to the HEAD model

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:10 PM

BOI

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:11 PM

I read quick lol

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:11 PM

Yes THAT one is rotated on a 2d axis

And it's multi-frame

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:11 PM

tahts what im asking is the shadow should be different if each frame is rendered

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:11 PM

Yes

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:12 PM

i was asking what the devs did, if they made different renders or if they just rotated it in photoshop

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:12 PM

That uses a lot less than 25 frames anyways. I was talking about the masks.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:13 PM

yea the masks wil just all be rendered lol

if I can get stud.io to cooperate then ill do renders for each frame of the animations for both the mask and head

that was a clusterfuck i apologize

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:23 PM

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:24 PM

i just wanted to ask if the head animation had changing shadows and I got caught up in trying to explain it to you i didnt see you were talking about something else entirely holy fuck. Ill quietly work and be back soon lolol

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:54 PM

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:55 PM

Yeet

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:55 PM

need me to send it over?

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:55 PM

?

I have the font

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:55 PM

oh lol

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 04:55 PM

:p

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 04:55 PM

~~can i have it~~

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:55 PM

lol if you want

Attachment: Classic_Grotesque_W04_Ex_Bd.ttf (121.97 KB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 04:56 PM

thank

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 04:56 PM

extended and bold is 1:1, i hope it can be used in game because i love hd gui

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 05:05 PM

Well we don't have the font reverse engineered yet

So it can't.

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 05:05 PM

oop

yet*

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 05:06 PM

Unless @JrMasterModelBuilder wants to have a go at that

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 05:06 PM

the font on the help screen is extended but not bold

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 05:23 PM

Liam when you have a moment can you send me the mouse graphic

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 05:43 PM

Attachment: cursor0001.tga (2.6 KB)

Attachment: cursor0000.tga (2.52 KB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 05:44 PM

thank you v much mein freund (edited)

The Shadow Emperor 07-Jun-20 05:46 PM

mein Freund for masculine, meine Freundin for feminine

~~sorry~~

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 05:47 PM

yes was I wrong?

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 05:47 PM

the meine

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 05:47 PM

fuck

The Shadow Emperor 07-Jun-20 05:47 PM

feminine inflection with a masculine noun

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 05:47 PM

ill never speak another foreign language again

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 05:47 PM

Pourquoi?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 05:47 PM

its been a very long time since German 1 lol I want to keep learning it

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 06:19 PM

️

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 06:21 PM

Her burden of things walking out Her burden of things walking out On Earth, my Nina On Earth, my Nina God forbid a vaguer feat National hell mugged me Say, the sparrow wants a morbid arrow Here's a quarter, that's the one I won

Maybe I'll buy the whirlwind That always keeps me yearning Her sitter's down there in the morning

Her burden of things walking out Her burden of things walking out On Earth, my Nina On Earth, my Nina

(Backwards) I remember now I remember now Why they called it Thunderbird Why they called it Thunderbird Man oh man, my throat is dry Man, are you thinking what I am Whell, what about it man Before you fall, you have to learn to crawl You can't see heaven when you're standing tall To see the whole sky On the ground you have to lie I remember now I remember now Why they called it Thunderbird Why they called it Thunderbird

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:25 PM

Redownloading stud.io now since it somehow got corrupted

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:26 PM

you got it. I took a breather and worked on my gfs computer part list ill get around in a little while

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:29 PM

I'm also taking the time to make some more of those covid masks cause I am seriously making bank off that shit.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:29 PM

Yea my Nan has been doing a bit of that lol

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:29 PM

I think I've made like $30 just in the last week off one design

A design that I might add has otherwise been on the shop for years, but never sold a single product until I made it available as a mask. :v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:31 PM

masks in general have been selling very fast

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:36 PM

Currently I just have variations of the Vahi in orange, and red for those die-hard vanilla LOMN fans that don't exist anymore AFAIK. :v (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:36 PM

die hard vanilla lolol what was it red in the alpha

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:36 PM

It was red in vanilla alpha and beta to match Tahu's other masks

Rebuilt switches it to orange

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:37 PM

gotcha gotcha

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:37 PM

It's funny really, It is VERY RARE I hear of anyone playing the alpha or beta anymore.

99% of bug reports and video content I see are all Rebuilt now

That's not to say Rebuilt has more bugs, just more people are playing it.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:39 PM

most people probably want to have a more stable and streamlined experience and the beta is more for intrigue now

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:40 PM

Well by nature Rebuilt and Beta have to be on equal terms for stability since one is based off the other, though Rebuilt definitely has its own issues that crop up just from the extra things we do with it that the game was never designed to do.

As far as content goes, Rebuilt definitely has better content, but only really by comparison. A massive chunk of Rebuilt's content was inspired by, or directly lifted from the alpha, and if that build had never been released, Rebuilt probably wouldn't exist.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:41 PM

Definitely not

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:41 PM

On its own, the beta is a fine game.

It's just seen as inferior by comparison now

Because we know what was cut

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:42 PM

We'd have things like map names and unused animations to ponder about but there wouldn't be anything solid enough to make a new version

The most we might've done would've been the dances, maybe

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:42 PM

At most I can see us reimplementing he Takara since those cutscenes were always present, and we inevitably would have found them eventually. THough the worldbuilding around them would not be known.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:42 PM

Ye

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:43 PM

Think about it like this: For nearly 15 years, we only had screenshots and videos of the beta to go off of, and it looked perfectly fine aside from the obvious.

If we had never known about the alpha, it would still be seen that way

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:44 PM

Really the only unfinished thing (aside from bugs) in the beta was the final sequence

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:44 PM

I dont see any reason to think it wouldve been thought of 'outside' the box

had the alpha not came our way

still spooky that it just showed up

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:44 PM

And that can be surmised from unused text and the Shadow Toa statement from Greg

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 07:45 PM

Btw that reminds me, once we release this patch and have the Tohunga in MBCH working as intended, we can totally start on them

Cause we'll by then know how to do it

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:45 PM

Honestly, the ending we have now where it cuts to the FMV when you finish TAHU is probably how they would've done it

Considering the time crunch

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:47 PM

oh they wouldve removed the Kaita fight?

or is TAHU the map in the makuta stage

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:47 PM

TAHU is the final area in the game

In lev7

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:47 PM

gotcha

so you play it and then done lol

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:48 PM

Well they'd added the shadow Toa you'd race/fight them, they'd vanish with some asinine text, and then you could leave the area I believe

And upon leaving TAHU it'd play the FMV and cut to credits

The Shadow Emperor 07-Jun-20 07:52 PM

there's no fighting, they literally say "beat my challenge and you beat me"

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:57 PM

Well there's talk of having a "form" and "defeating" in the text

So I assume it'd be a race at the very least

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:58 PM

a race lol early lego games are very cut and paste

"only a RACE can prevent Makuta"

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 07:59 PM

~~Perhaps a game of Kohlii~~

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 07:59 PM

Next you will need to race me in this potato sack

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 08:00 PM

Tahu and Gali vs their Shadow Toa in the 3-Legged Race

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:00 PM

Classic Bionicle action

and adventure!

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 08:01 PM

It's just an elementary school field day competition

Next up is touch football

Then tug of war

The Shadow Emperor 07-Jun-20 08:02 PM

I fucking hated field day

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 08:02 PM

And then everybody gets a popsicle

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:02 PM

you get a Scholastic Bookfair coupon in the printer menu after you beat them all

The Shadow Emperor 07-Jun-20 08:02 PM

there's always some activity at the beginning that gets you sopping wet and then you have to spend hours like that

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 08:02 PM

Yyyyup

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:02 PM

I moved around too much and none of my schools liked having fun

I went to a school that had 2 recesses and their education was easy and comprehensible

The Shadow Emperor 07-Jun-20 08:05 PM

when recess became 3 minutes I started questioning what the point of it was

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:06 PM

... really?

wtf has education come to (edited)

The Shadow Emperor 07-Jun-20 08:06 PM

maybe 5 at most

as soon I started having fun it was always over

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:06 PM

Lets take naturally energetic children and condition them to cubical like institutions

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:07 PM

Progress

:p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:08 PM

whats that for

did i miss something

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:08 PM

The covid masks

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:08 PM

OOOOH

yea thatll be dope

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:08 PM

It's a fun little challenge making logical looking half masks out of full ones

https://www.redbubble.com/i/mask/Vahi-Sketch-by-TheBeaverhouse/29761281.9G0D8

'Vahi Sketch' Mask by TheBeaverhouse

Millions of unique designs by independent artists. Find your thing.

This is what's up now btw

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:09 PM

if youre sewing them yourself definitely make use of the nose portion

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:09 PM

Redbubble my dude. :p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:09 PM

yea i realized lol

wouldnt be too hard to do it by hand either with transfer paper

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:10 PM

Eeeeeh

@Chip 🐉🇬🇧 and I made some shirts with a store bought printer when I was over there.

They... aren't holding up too well to laundry

:p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:10 PM

OOh thats right i forget you have to wash clothes lol

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:10 PM

BOI

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:11 PM

I alternate between pajamas every few days

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:11 PM

But yeah, the shirts we made, (at least on my end) look like in less than a year what a quality printed shirt tends to look like after 30.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:11 PM

daaamn thats stinky

unfortunate. oh well i think they look fine as is im just a little ambitious lolol (edited)

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:12 PM

?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 07-Jun-20 08:12 PM

unfortunate they came oout poopy

from the wash

nvm im thinking you were talking to me

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:18 PM

I think this may end up looking even better than the vahi. x)

😺 ChibiErica97 07-Jun-20 08:20 PM

I dig the sketchy lines

It’s a good style

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:22 PM

I really never thought this would take off, but evidently it's something people like so I'd be foolish not to make more. :p

I'll put up the Vahi variations and see how the Hau sells. If those do well, then I'll probably do an entire line in all base colours

Chip 🐉🇬🇧 07-Jun-20 08:57 PM

@V A H K I T I Liam bruh you gotta be gentle with those shirts Turn em inside out and put them in a cold wash

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:57 PM

I do!

It's actually worse inside out cause the design folds over and sticks to itself then in addition to cracking it also peels bits off when you re-invert the shirt. (edited)

Chip 🐉🇬🇧 07-Jun-20 08:58 PM

lol Fair enough they're not amazing

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 08:58 PM

They still look generally fine, they're just not holding up as well as I'd hoped. It's nothing that is super visibly bad

The Hau and the other coloured Vahi are up. Let's see if the first was a fluke, or if this does actually end up being a lucrative Covid-times supplementary job.

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 09:06 PM

~~but are they washable~~

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 09:08 PM

Yes actually

The Cap'm (Reese) 07-Jun-20 09:08 PM

yey

V A H K I T I 07-Jun-20 09:08 PM

Redbubble recommends you do so after every use

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 10:43 AM

Working on that credits FMV a bit more now

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Progress on the help screen? :p

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 10:53 AM

I have a bit of a task for anyone who's interested @Team Litestone: Get some fun screenshots you think would fit as adventure highlights in the credits FMV and I'll put them in.

(Preferably without the hud. You can turn that off in the debug menu) (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 10:54 AM

~~how about this one~~

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 10:54 AM

Boi

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 10:54 AM

I can try to get some action shots today, sure

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 10:54 AM

:p

Also try to make sure if you're using anyone other than Onua and Tahu not to to put too much focus on the Toa's model since they aren't exactly done yet. :v

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:04 AM

First one I'm thinking of is Onua at his canister

Seems appropriate

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:06 AM

Well I'm using that as a backdrop presently but we could

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:06 AM

Oh

Last I saw that was just black like the Adventure games

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:07 AM

Because I had no backdrop yet. :v

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:09 AM

The text doesn't have the visibility problem of the Legend FMV text, right? It's all perfectly readable?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:10 AM

Should be.

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:11 AM

Okay, how many pictures do you think we need in total

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:12 AM

At least one for each toa

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:12 AM

Okay

How about this for Onua?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:16 AM

His pose looks a little awkward.

Maybe the part where he's holding his head instead? Or maybe the part with whenua in frame?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:18 AM

This part?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:19 AM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:19 AM

k

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:43 AM

Working on the post-credits image for this version of the fmv

Forced perspective is fun. :v

It do be like that sometimes. :v

Leena 12-Jun-20 11:56 AM

take away the rock and he's dabbing

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:56 AM

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:57 AM

~~how about this for Gali~~

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 11:57 AM

I kinda like it

I'll need to edit Kevin's eyes but it works

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 11:58 AM

kewl

~~giddyup~~

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:02 PM

I like it, but the angle on the kane-ra is weird

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:03 PM

well there isn't a good angle of it while pohatu's doing the "giddyup" motion like this

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:03 PM

fair

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:03 PM

my first try had him mostly obscured by the bull's head

I was going to try getting a frontal shot of them running through the small oasis part of BLR2, but considering that they keep moving constantly it's nigh on impossible

(trying to get an action shot like you guys had for Kopaka during the Thicc days)

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:07 PM

Nice

How's this looking so far btw?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:07 PM

neet

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:18 PM

okay this one's more a fallback since I can't do a full shot of Kopaka shield surfing yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:28 PM

Dance scene, mayhaps?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:29 PM

Sure

Forced perspective is fun

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:30 PM

I can't believe nokama is fucking dead

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:30 PM

I love how this is basically the Jojo part 2 opening.

THIS IS A THING REAL STUDIOS DO

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:31 PM

see original xenoblade cutscenes

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:32 PM

Oh?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:32 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KhW05c7rHI

Theaggyyu

U N L O C K (High Quality Source)

Original: https://youtu.be/QZd2ZqE56hw?t=172 Was replaying some Xenoblade, and thought people might appreciate a high-quality source copy of this clip with Free Camera, since I've seen a few memes made using it and such.

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:32 PM

PFFFFFFFF

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:32 PM

there's a lot of that

stuff you can't see since it's juuuuuust off camera

More examples https://youtu.be/QZd2ZqE56hw

Theaggyyu

Xenoblade Chronicles - Moving Camera During Cutscenes 1

Using Dolphin Emulator's Free Look feature, we can move the camera during Xenoblade's cutscenes and see some freaky stuff, as well as get some insight into how they're done!

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:37 PM

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:37 PM

Shite, I really want to get a shot of Tahu in TA10 but it's still barcode land

Fries101Reviews 12-Jun-20 12:38 PM

don't forget about Makooti the bionic man XD

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:42 PM

Uhhhh...maybe this for now until we get that area finished up?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:42 PM

Either that or something with Tahu's hau area.

That's a visually interesting stage

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:42 PM

TA04?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:43 PM

Whatever the one is with the fucking lava whirlpool and the air that kills you. :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:43 PM

TA04, yes

Positioning Tahu here to get a good shot is misery

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:48 PM

oof

Maybe we'll just go with the first one then

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:48 PM

ok

~~or we go full Sonic the Fighters and put gameplay footage in the credits~~

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 12:49 PM

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 12:52 PM

and I don't think I can do lev7 yet so that's all of them...?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 12-Jun-20 01:04 PM

Been chipping away had some friends over

Having difficulty landing the sand color and fixing the font because I'm a picky bitch

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:08 PM

:v

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:34 PM

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sfkkh3sY5O7kdKoGedReEu0Oy2h9F6kR/view?usp=sharing

CreditsFMV1-WIP1.mp4

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:42 PM

I'll have to see how it looks in-game

but right now the text looks super tiny

You also gave Ash two names

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:44 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:44 PM

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:44 PM

Oh, just forgot to edit one I guess

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:45 PM

(also IIRC it's Ashlyn not Ashley but I may be wrong on that)

"You Meddling Kids" got merged into "Additional Testers"

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:46 PM

Was it not there to begin with?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:46 PM

no

it was a separate yellow category

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:46 PM

o

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 12-Jun-20 01:46 PM

I can't read that

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:47 PM

"Special Thanks" was a yellow title before, is now red for some reason

and yes

it smol

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 12-Jun-20 01:48 PM

Bruh that's pixelated as fuck

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:48 PM

which is why I want to see how it looks in-game, because I don't know if YouTube's fullscreen is messing with the pixelation or if it's an actual problem

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:49 PM

I mean it's also lower resolution than the final FMV is gonna be

This is just a test render

Anyways is that all? Fixed the above issues

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:50 PM

Are we doing a separate "Thank you for playing!" image

for these credits

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:50 PM

We're doing an entirely separate FMV for the credits of Nobua mode

so no

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:50 PM

if not maybe add that at the end of the credits scroll

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:50 PM

It'll be done there

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:50 PM

just the words

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 01:50 PM

Just woke up. Was I called?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:50 PM

The thanks for playing will be on the second credits screen

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 01:51 PM

Oh. Screenshots? Can do

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:52 PM

I mean the super-dee-duper image will be, but I think adding one line of Thank you for playing! to the current credits underneath our special thanks would be good

also I already got the screenshots

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:55 PM

I mean more are welcome

There are big gaps

Having two per toa could be good

This is the current set, edited to fit.

@Metroidwave

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:56 PM

it might be the aforementioned pixel issue but it's hard to see Gali in her picture

is that an issue on your end

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:57 PM

Not really

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:58 PM

ok

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 01:58 PM

So one for each Toa then?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:58 PM

ye

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:58 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 01:58 PM

~~Don't do Onua on his beach, that's illegal~~

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 01:59 PM

Since Gali's hard to see underwater, maybe I'll get a pic of her Backflipping away fromt he boss's attack

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:59 PM

I like that

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 01:59 PM

Dunno why, but that animationw as always so cool

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:59 PM

Ye

Just make sure you hide the hud

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 01:59 PM

nods

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 01:59 PM

It's under visual debugger

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 02:00 PM

Been a while. How do I activate Debug mode?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 02:00 PM

Delet

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 02:00 PM

And is this for the original version of the game or the Rebuilt?

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 02:00 PM

rebuilt

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 02:00 PM

salutes

leaps out window to go do the thing

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 03:22 PM

Let it be known, getting her mid flip was hard. Had to record a video and grab the frame... Also couldn't make the health bar go away.

Actually wait.. I have an idea

Used a still of the projectile from a few frames earlier.

UTTER_BODGE 12-Jun-20 03:32 PM

there's an ingame button or two which pause time for getting action screenshots just like this

F10 iirc?

or one of the function keys

you can still move around with the debug cam in that state

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 03:32 PM

...That would've been nice to know. I feel a fool

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 03:32 PM

It's alt

UTTER_BODGE 12-Jun-20 03:33 PM

that's one of them

two keys are bound to the same thing afaik

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 03:33 PM

How do Iget rid of the boss health, btw? It didn't vanish with the hud

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 03:33 PM

It's hard coded

So you can't really

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 03:34 PM

So I edit it out

UTTER_BODGE 12-Jun-20 03:34 PM

replace the textures with fully transparent ones

that's what I did when getting LI2 screenshots like this lol

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 03:34 PM

Thanks for the advice. Any thoughts on if I should try a different angle?

UTTER_BODGE 12-Jun-20 03:35 PM

if you use the ingame time freeze button you can pan around and try different angles once you have a good pose

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 03:35 PM

Not really

That also pauses camera processing

UTTER_BODGE 12-Jun-20 03:36 PM

it doesn't

I've done it lol

V A H K I T I 12-Jun-20 03:36 PM

Well the alt one does

Dunno about f10

UTTER_BODGE 12-Jun-20 03:36 PM

oh nah it breaks it

funny though

pretty sure I remember specifically doing that in gali's strt

oh well

Fries101Reviews 12-Jun-20 03:39 PM

you can photoshop the health bar

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 04:48 PM

nods I managed to load the area without the boss while trying to skip to it, so I'll see if I can replicate that and then merge the screenshots

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 05:08 PM

Fries101Reviews 12-Jun-20 05:17 PM

Metroidwave 12-Jun-20 05:34 PM

Does it look usable?

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Jun-20 05:35 PM

looks fine to me

V A H K I T I 16-Jun-20 02:02 PM

Credits in game btw:

The Cap'm (Reese) 16-Jun-20 02:02 PM

epic

V A H K I T I 16-Jun-20 02:02 PM

I think I prefer it as an fmv personally

Less dynamic sure, but it's a lot less hassle

V A H K I T I 23-Jul-20 07:31 PM

So I think I found the one wo could help with the print menu instructions

Andrew Malta in Maskposting has been making a bunch of 0 styled Rahi, and has since started rendering out manuals. Suffice to say, they look VERY close to the 01 manual style.

@Graphic Designers Thoughts?

I've shot the guy an email inviting him to join the project. Hopefully he'll agree.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 23-Jul-20 07:49 PM

Looks great hope he joins!

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 23-Jul-20 08:59 PM

Bruhh

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Jul-20 02:43 AM

ooh

nice

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 02:44 AM

He responded. Went to bed before I could really explain who we are since he doesn't already know, but he does seem interested in hearing more.

He's already built some of the LOMN Rahi in his own time, so he'll likely end up making these anyways

Though I will say, aside from the actual posing and building, the actual image itself doesn't seem hard to make.

@Aurora could give me more information, but I THINK it's just using a custom shader for Stud.io.

And then the background and part list are added later.

Aurora 24-Jul-20 02:47 AM

It's a feature in Stud.io

Background and parts list would be in the booklet

It's a really cool feature

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 02:48 AM

Neat!

We'll have to remember that for Makuta whenever we get there.

Speaking of, @Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫, any updates on those modifications we discussed? (edited)

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 24-Jul-20 07:09 AM

It's been a while since I fiddled with that any but I'll gladly work on it after work today.

The last time I worked on it I was having trouble finding a place to mount the tentacles where they can actually hit a Toa figure and don't get in the way of the limbs so I'm still trying to figure that out... (edited)

I liked the idea of mounting them vertically so I'll try that first (edited)

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:19 PM

And he is here. Everyone welcome @Skybird to the team.

@Aurora What are the names of the custom parts packs you use btw? Looking to get him set up with those since we got to talking about things like the Mata tool arm this afternoon. :p

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:20 PM

Hola!

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:21 PM

So since you've already built the Fikou Nui, I imagine you're already somewhat familiar with the Rahi in the game, but I can get you models of all of them to work with otherwise.

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:23 PM

Yes would you, I'm not familiar with all of the canon rahi besides the Fikou-Nui, Shallows cat, and a few others (I have made instructions for those both as well)

But I've not really looked into The Legend of Mata Nui [Rebuilt] in a long time

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:24 PM

Well a lot of the Rahi in this game aren't even canon since it was never released, but ye, I could arrange that.

Attachment: RAHI.7z (1.04 MB)

These models are from the alpha, so they haven't really been updated or anything, and they aren't rigged either, but they should do for determining their build all the same.

Obviously btw we don't need instructions for the ones that were released as sets in 01 like the Nui Rama or the Manas, aha.

A lot of them are pretty simple too, like the MNOG fish.

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:29 PM

Should I share a few pics of my versions of Canon rahi here, or in DM? I've built the Ruki as well (in different colors albeit)

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:29 PM

Anywhere is fine.

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:30 PM

The red one being the Ruki

the other 3 are original

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:30 PM

Nice.

We will definitely need the instructions here to represent the actual builds without modification though. However substituting parts colours where necessary is acceptable.

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:30 PM

I've... way.. waaay too many rahi

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:30 PM

The one on the top right is similar to the simplest Rahi in the game actually

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:31 PM

Yes, that was my inspiration for that model

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:31 PM

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:32 PM

If you'd like to, DM me the models you need instructions for and I will do what I can to make them/make instructions for them, or if I've already made them, I'll repurpose them back as close to the in game models as I can

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:33 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) How many slots do we have available in the print menu right now? I forget.

We may have to take the smaller rahi like the above fish and put them all onto one or two pages

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:34 PM

My DMs are open to anyone who needs me, I'll provide as much assistance as I can fit into my schedule

And that's fine, I've already created my own Master Builder 2 set, so I can make a similar concept for small critters

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:36 PM

Nice. :p And I'll keep ya posted, but pretty much everything in the above folder excluding things that already have officially released sets.

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:36 PM

I also have a server where all of my mocs, as well as some Lego canon rahi are on display, so it's possible I've some there that you've in game

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:36 PM

The game by default includes the magazine scan of the Fikou instructions as a placeholder, so I'm not opposed to including it, and the other Rahi that would later be put into Master Builder

Since it seems like they were originally supposed to be given instructions here

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:37 PM

Wow I skimmed right ast the folder

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 01:37 PM

:p

So that would pretty much amount to these

And most of them are like.. 10 parts max

The big exceptions being the fikou nui and wolf rat

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:42 PM

ahh, they're 3D files, I might not have a program to open these atm lol (edited)

Skybird 24-Jul-20 01:52 PM

The wolf rahi is basically what I based my shallows cat model on, except mine actually has a functional bite like Muaka

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 02:01 PM

Ye they're quite similar.

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 24-Jul-20 02:06 PM

Omg so CYOOT!!!!! (edited)

Skybird 24-Jul-20 02:09 PM

I did put a Krana holder on the head because it fills the void between the Technic pieces perfectly!!!

Also, that's what my instructions look like, my styling includes the background color in the same color family as the model, but I can make them more consistant with 01

Oh hey @Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ fancy seeing you here!!

Aurora 24-Jul-20 02:11 PM

Bnamna

Sorry Liam, I'm struggling hardcore with some depression right now. For parts I'd ask Lehvak Kal, they're the one behind most of the packs.

@V A H K I T I

Skybird 24-Jul-20 02:13 PM

I wish you the best through that :< Spartan

Aurora 24-Jul-20 02:14 PM

It's me, Aurora. You know me, Skybird lol

Ganto was my previous alias

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 24-Jul-20 03:11 PM

Hi @Skybird!! Coulda sworn I recognized your icon

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Jul-20 03:12 PM

On break at work. There are 6 slots on the print menu currently used for the Fikou instructions @V A H K I T I

But even then we need more slots for other art that is unused otherwise so we'll need more space for printing regardless

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 03:17 PM

true

Skybird 24-Jul-20 03:23 PM

Ahhh, I hadn't noticed yet

@Aurora

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 24-Jul-20 08:35 PM

@V A H K I T I Right now I'm just going hog wild attaching the tentacles to different parts of Makuta and seeing what happens. Trying to get an action feature with a good motion to it.

I haven't had any major breakthroughs yet but I did unwittingly engineer a Makuta that hits himself on the head and demasks himself and I thought it was pretty hilarious. Very "Boneheads of Voodoo Island"

Attachment: 20200724_193201_1_1.mp4 (2.38 MB)

Presenting, for your viewing pleasure.... Makuta showing off his inner Krekka (edited)

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 24-Jul-20 10:03 PM

Attachment: 20200724_210102_1.mp4 (7.42 MB)

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Come get a nice, warm hug from poppa Teridax.

V A H K I T I 24-Jul-20 10:54 PM

:v

Skybird 24-Jul-20 11:49 PM

Ohhh those infected Ruru (and Pakari) look so good I still can't get over then

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 25-Jul-20 09:26 AM

Thanks!! :D

Aurora 25-Jul-20 11:20 AM

Yeah sorry the original function was kinda fucking garbage

V A H K I T I 25-Jul-20 01:15 PM

It was a good design visually. We just didn't notice issues until it was physically prototyped.

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 25-Jul-20 03:25 PM

^

I feel like the bear hug feature might have some potential, but I don't think the slizer gearbox can really handle that kind of girth. Maybe rig it so he can give kind of a left hook right hook kinda thing?

Attachment: 20200724_204917_1_1.mp4 (2.29 MB)

I had a "blooper" of sorts filming it where one of the tentacles popped out the gearbox and I thought it could probably look kinda cool if executed right

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 25-Jul-20 03:28 PM

Grab toa and then knock mask off?

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 25-Jul-20 03:29 PM

ooo

yknow it's at just the right height for that too I think

Oh yeah. Ditch the slizer gearbox, add some levers...

Skybird 25-Jul-20 09:37 PM

@Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ I remember seeing you post about the custom infected masks a while back, where can one get some? ~~If possible~~

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 25-Jul-20 09:39 PM

oh those? I painted them myself :3

Skybird 25-Jul-20 09:39 PM

That's what I thought!! They look so good, my compliments :>

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 25-Jul-20 09:40 PM

Thanks!! Here's a better pic of them

Skybird 25-Jul-20 09:41 PM

I just scored some Vahi today in a haul, and I slightly wonder what an infected one would look like lol

Ooo those are so killer

V A H K I T I 25-Jul-20 09:41 PM

I'll show you! :v

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A lesser known copy of my Vahi that was made in tandem with mine as part of my arrangement with the makmaker. :p

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 25-Jul-20 09:42 PM

Well if you want to give it a shot, I made mine using testors brand enamel paint. Primarily the orange but I mixed in some small amounts of black, red, and yellow til it matched the infected hau

V A H K I T I 25-Jul-20 09:43 PM

And my own for comparison in case you haven't seen it. :p (edited)

Skybird 25-Jul-20 09:43 PM

Damn

Classy

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 25-Jul-20 09:43 PM

bruhhh that mask is sick

Skybird 25-Jul-20 09:43 PM

Man gold Vahi aren't even on bricklink rn

Nyarah Ghost (^Φ ω Φ^)∫ 25-Jul-20 09:43 PM

I haven't seen the infewcted one yet!

I'd hate to be in that timeline

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Oonie 26-Jul-20 02:09 AM

Those masks are all amazing

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 26-Jul-20 07:33 PM

That's a fully metal vahi...

I love it

Chip 🐉🇬🇧 26-Jul-20 07:36 PM

He wears it everywhere as a pauldron

Skybird 30-Jul-20 03:57 PM

So it totally isn't in the game, but I made a lil jellyfish moc :>