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The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 03:58 PM

hai

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 03:58 PM

Hello.

G-Bond 28-Aug-18 03:58 PM

~~Voriki pls~~

Hexadecimal Mantis 28-Aug-18 03:58 PM

/ban thiccbricc

G-Bond 28-Aug-18 03:59 PM

no

Roblord 28-Aug-18 03:59 PM

extra T H I C C

s

G-Bond 28-Aug-18 04:00 PM

T H I C C N E S S W I L L S E T Y O U F R E E

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:02 PM

ANYWAYS

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 04:02 PM

'K so. For the Makuta level I'm planning on writing for the Shadow Toa, Makuta, and the ending. Shadow Toa are mostly based off their portrayal in the style guide, Makuta is heavily MNOG inspired but embellished with the details about him I learned from Swinnerton, and the ending is a transition to the final cutscene where the Toa activate a beacon underground.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:04 PM

While I agree there (and think we should definitely come back to that later on since the current Makuta stuff is kinda trash), I think the Turaga should be the priority for now.

Not that your idea is bad, mind

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 04:04 PM

That's kinda why I've been slacking off on writing it

It's a thing for later down the road, when we cross that bridge

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:04 PM

Understandable. Makuta is a ways off. (edited)

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:05 PM

I mean

Once we get rig importing and animation support, he may not be THAT far off

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:05 PM

True.

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:05 PM

Work on his model can already begin

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:05 PM

Suppose I shouldn't be so quick to assume...

G-Bond 28-Aug-18 04:05 PM

~~Thiccbrick as final boss~~

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:05 PM

Nah we already decided on a tube flailing Dave Rushton as a cheat for Makuta

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

G-Bond 28-Aug-18 04:06 PM

~~Thicc as muaka then?~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:06 PM

Anyways, I made a little proof of concept for Nokama's stuff when I first thought this up recently. Here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hc-vSudbdwXlbRmTQeiL27Q-f6rI5zACAjWPuZKM7WU/edit?usp=sharing

Alpha Turaga Stuff

NOKAMA: VLLG: "Welcome back to Ga-Koro, Wise Gali. (writer's note: Gali says in the O meets G cutscene that "The Tohunga sing your praises [Onua]," so I assume she's been in Ga-Koro for a bit before you play as her) Have you taken the time to speak to the Tohunga now that yo...

This isn't anything final, but it's a poc

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:06 PM

I like it!

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:07 PM

~~my existence is validated~~

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:07 PM

Make sure for the beta variation however that you leave room for some facsimile of the original "thanks for saving us" lines, as the invasions will still be a thing (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:07 PM

Yeah. The elemental powers bit'll have to go too

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:07 PM

Whenua's dialogue will be altered to accommodate this as well.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:08 PM

This was more just for the alpha, clearly. I'm glad you like it, though!

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 04:08 PM

well this is new

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:09 PM

Also, here's a little thing I made. I...may have gotten overzealous when I started thinking about the prospect of making it

Attachment: WorkInProgress.mp4 (2.38 MB)

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V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:09 PM

❤

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:10 PM

Impressive.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 04:10 PM

so what's the purpose of this channel?

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:10 PM

To marvel at your dicc obviously. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:11 PM

face palm

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 04:11 PM

thiccdicc

G-Bond 28-Aug-18 04:11 PM

I kinda had a dumb idea for the (get this item for a matoran thing) where when you give the item to the matoran he gives a piece of armor too you in return adding one health point. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:12 PM

Now that I have confirmation, I think I'll start working on Onewa soon. Can't right now, but will later.

@The Shadow Emperor If you do end up doing some Shadow Toa/Makuta stuff, I'd really like to see it.

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 04:14 PM

I have dialogue written for about half of the Shadow Toa, I need to tidy things up first though

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:15 PM

Cool. Just post it when you're ready. Don't want to rush with this sort of thing.

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 04:15 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:15 PM

Aurora 28-Aug-18 04:17 PM

Matoran maker pls

Teylgate 28-Aug-18 04:17 PM

For Wii u and 3ds

Aurora 28-Aug-18 04:18 PM

With poser

So I can make stupid comics

r543 (@mention for replies) 28-Aug-18 04:26 PM

What's with the current Makuta stuff? And what about the Story stuff? what's currently there?

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:27 PM

The current Makuta stuff (not to be rude) kinda sucks.

Every time I mention this, I point out this line: "Can you defeat me, Lewa? I doubt it!"

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 04:28 PM

"It is impossible! How can I...Makuta...be defeated by the likes of you?"

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:28 PM

That, as a writer, hurts me.

Makuta is supposed to be an imposing villain

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:28 PM

KONO MAKUTA DAAAA

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:28 PM

Not a 5th grader challenging you to a race

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 04:29 PM

Vahkiti do you still plan on having the Shadow Toa act like Cosmic Clones in a race? Or will there be an actual fight

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:30 PM

Depends what we can do

Let's ask @benji

How difficult do you think it would be to have an enemy copy your every move on a delay?

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:31 PM

Another option is that the Shadow Toa are just like Mario Kart ghosts. They have a set path they follow, and always take the same route. Just, y'know...maybe they'd throw an attack every so often?

Would make the timer have a point as well

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:33 PM

Well THAT we could probably do

Since the game has splines implemented for Nui Rama, among other things

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:33 PM

That's what I've been thinking

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:33 PM

Thinking about it, the cosmic clones from Galaxy 1 do that

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:33 PM

PFFFF Nui Rama

No it does not boi

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:33 PM

In the alpha it does

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:33 PM

I'm talking about the beta

Speaking of that fucker

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:34 PM

Well the splines are still THERE, they just don't get followed for some reason. (edited)

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:34 PM

^

The Nui-Rama there was actually changed drastically too

movelist and everything was axed practically down to two aniations

*animations

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Aug-18 04:34 PM

Is this the writing channel?

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:34 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:35 PM

'tis

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:35 PM

Well writing and brainstorming

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 04:41 PM

To marvel at your dicc obviously. Shut up @V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:42 PM

Make me. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 04:43 PM

Well I'm pretty sure my D in your mouth would shut you up, but that won't ever happen

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:44 PM

Aw.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 04:44 PM

Sorry mate, I ain't gay

in fact, I got my eye on this girl

r543 (@mention for replies) 28-Aug-18 04:46 PM

Is it just writing or voice clips as well? As long as there's a option for the old stuff, as bad as it is, I'm fine, will be playing with the new one though.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:47 PM

...Um, I don't think we're doing any voice work...

This dialogue that I'm writing will just be in the alpha (and maybe optional patch)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 04:49 PM

Voice acting?

need a deep voice?

Like close-to-Cumberbatch-deep?

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:50 PM

You DO have a good voice

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:50 PM

Pretty sure we're not doing voice acting, but I guess I'm not the authority

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 04:50 PM

I have a deep voice

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:53 PM

Question @ShadowDraikana

I'm not seeing BLR2 on the issue list in the project. Is there even an issue for it, or is it just not on the project yet?

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:53 PM

I'll have a look

I'd be shocked if it wasn't on here

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:53 PM

I made a column for high priority issues and sorted them accordingly

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:54 PM

there's a chance it's buried and wasn't added to the project

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:54 PM

So if it is there, it's not in the porject

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:54 PM

also nice

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:54 PM

It SHOULD have been added automatically

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:55 PM

I actually didn't think about that, but yeah, it might not be in the git. It's like the horn shutdown, where it was something we knew about so widely nobody thought to make an issue on it

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:55 PM

I would also recommend that we start working on some of these issues ASAP as well, cause...

Man there are over 130 open issues currently

And half of them aren't even that hard to fix. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:55 PM

Fox the fox, rat on the rat

You can ape the ape, I know about that (edited)

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:55 PM

Horn softlock I once again must point out is a failure on part of the game to disable the grapple

benji 28-Aug-18 04:56 PM

@V A H K I T I clone movement: no idea I haven't done anything like that yet, could mostly be done in OSI?

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:56 PM

Ay

ShadowDraikana 28-Aug-18 04:56 PM

Boss handling was done in the osi in the alpha so this should be possible

Hell but possible

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:56 PM

@benji I'm just brainstorming ideas for the shadow toa. So far we have that idea, or a ghost race set up with splines

The latter is one thing I know the game can handle with some work.

Just something to spice up the platforming levels

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:57 PM

I love how we're debating both versions of Mario Galaxy's cosmic clones

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 04:57 PM

Make them an actual challenge beyond reach the end in such and such a time

Lol, yea

I like shit like this cause back then, these ideas would be all over the place

NOW we have nearly 20 years of video game concepts to pull from

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 04:58 PM

Indeed

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 04:59 PM

Seriously, Benedict Cumberbatch's voice is hella deep!

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 05:00 PM

Ye

People tell me I have a really deep voice, but I don't really think I do.

BUT I've apparently had generally the same voice my entire life. I never went through voice changes as a kid.

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 05:01 PM

You have a deep throat instead?

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 05:01 PM

Kek

That you'll have to find out for yourself. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Roblord 28-Aug-18 05:01 PM

I can barely tell if my voice changed at all

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 05:01 PM

No

r543 (@mention for replies) 28-Aug-18 05:08 PM

I see, so it's just robot organic sounds? I meant what's currently there for Makta stuff

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 28-Aug-18 05:08 PM

Mine obviously changed @Roblord

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The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 05:39 PM

Okay, so it turns out I had enough time, and I did Onewa (and a bit of op. patch Nokama). Thoughts? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hc-vSudbdwXlbRmTQeiL27Q-f6rI5zACAjWPuZKM7WU/edit?usp=sharing

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - New Turaga Dialogue

ALPHA VERSION NOKAMA VLLG: "Welcome back to Ga-Koro, Wise Gali. (writer's note: Gali says in the O meets G cutscene that "The Tohunga sing your praises [Onua]," so I assume she's been in Ga-Koro for a bit before you play as her) Have you taken the time to speak to the Tohun...

omegalucas 28-Aug-18 06:14 PM

Nuju has no translator in LOMN, right?

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 06:14 PM

Nope.

Matoro is just another randy NPC

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 06:14 PM

Very early 2001 concepts had not settled on that idea yet.

omegalucas 28-Aug-18 06:14 PM

Are you guys thinking of adding Matoro in that role for the optional patch or keep it as is?

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 06:15 PM

It wasn't settled upon until MNOG was developed to Ko-Koro.

The first comic even had Matoro set up in a similar way to LOMN. He was just out and about spying on Kopaka, and Nuju spoke normally.

I wish I knew exactly who came up with it and when, but IIRC its first use was in fact MNOG.

Which by the time Templar reached that point would have likely been about fall 2001

omegalucas 28-Aug-18 06:17 PM

Around the time the axe was pulled on this game

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 06:17 PM

ye

Anyways, to keep with the period accuracy, we'll probably keep things as is

IIRC he also speaks normally in Tales of the Tohunga.

omegalucas 28-Aug-18 06:19 PM

I was asking because the only placeholder text for Nuju's optional patch dialogue in that doc is "Hi. How are ya!" which gave me a very Tohunga vibe and reminded me of that

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 06:19 PM

that was a joke

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 06:19 PM

Kek

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 06:19 PM

a running gag

omegalucas 28-Aug-18 06:19 PM

I know

Just put me thinking and I asked kek

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 06:20 PM

...admittedly, I was gonna wait until we confirmed the translation thing before writing his stuff

But now I know

omegalucas 28-Aug-18 06:20 PM

Ya welcome :V (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 06:20 PM

thx

Leaving for a bit, but I actually might be able to get his stuff done before the night's over

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 06:22 PM

Noice

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 08:13 PM

Boom. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hc-vSudbdwXlbRmTQeiL27Q-f6rI5zACAjWPuZKM7WU/edit#

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - New Turaga Dialogue

ALPHA VERSION NOKAMA VLLG: "Welcome back to Ga-Koro, Wise Gali. (writer's note: Gali says in the O meets G cutscene that "The Tohunga sing your praises [Onua]," so I assume she's been in Ga-Koro for a bit before you play as her) Have you taken the time to speak to the Tohun...

(might I request a pin so I don't have to post this each time)

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 08:13 PM

Pinned a message.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 08:13 PM

Thank

This has everything up to Nuju for both alpha and op. patch. Criticism is appreciated.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 08:27 PM

FTR, I modeled all the BOSS text off Whenua's. It might be a bit repetitive, and I can vary it up if need be (edited)

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 09:04 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 09:06 PM

is that a yes to changing it or

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 09:07 PM

Dunno yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 09:07 PM

K.

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 09:10 PM

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 09:12 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 09:16 PM

Hey, I just want to make a quality product. Whatever you say goes, boss.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:10 PM

One last question for now: what are the plans for Ta-Koro? Are we putting in an invasion, or are we going to have it be that the winch lever is required to enter? Or both? Really just asking so I know what to write.

@V A H K I T I

Aurora 28-Aug-18 10:21 PM

Sequel using assets from this game, all about the Bohrok invasion

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:22 PM

...Y'know, until we decide about it, I'll just paste my alpha one in the op. patch.

Aurora 28-Aug-18 10:25 PM

Krana collectables in each level

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:26 PM

I'll also say that I am going to incorporate a couple specific lines from the beta dialogue. Specifically, Matau's hint for the Kutoati-Nui and Vakama's hint for the Taratoka-Nui (along with "I'm sure our paths will cross again). I do think these lines fit enough to justify putting them in. But, as usual, I can change it if asked (getting the feeling that that'll be my slogan at this point)

Either way, I'm out for the night. Again, thank you for letting me flex my writing muscles, @V A H K I T I . I appreciate it a lot, and I hope I don't disappoint.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Aug-18 10:33 PM

I'm hype for it too reese

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:33 PM

(doc is pinned

)

and I accept criticism

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 28-Aug-18 10:35 PM

You got it

I'll take a look after my haircut

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 10:46 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) this dialogue is

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:46 PM

my eyes

but thank you

Anything off? Anything that could be improved that you could discern?

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 10:48 PM

I haven't done a thorough examination yet but it looks great from what I've read. Fits right in with the rest of LoMN's dialogue

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:49 PM

Thanks! If you do see something you think could be better, please tell me. I hate to be repetitive, but I do want this to be as good as possible.

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 10:49 PM

I definitely will

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:49 PM

Much appreciated

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 10:51 PM

I'm kinda having second thoughts about my Shadow Toa plans now. I wanted each Shadow Toa to represent the Toa's dark sides like they do in the book and style guide, but I feel like the Toa's personalities are so weak and understated elsewhere in the game that it doesn't really fit.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:51 PM

That was a thought I was having as well

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 10:51 PM

Shadow Tahu shows up to mock Tahu about his fiery temper that we never actually see in the game

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 10:53 PM

I was thinking something of a compromise; it's Makuta trying to break their spirits by playing on their alleged vulnerabilities, but in this case the Toa are all wise to that and call Makuta on his shit (since the existing dialogue just outright says that the ST are forms of Makuta). Then the fight/race begins.

Like, Shadow Gali would say: "The other Toa can't work together. They are useless." and then Gali would say "yer full o' shit, sun"

but worded better than that

and then the race would happen, with the Shadow fading away afterwards

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 10:56 PM

I like it

The Shadow Emperor 28-Aug-18 11:06 PM

will take that into account

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Aug-18 11:11 PM

Well, now I'm actually going to bed before this storm knocks my power out. Night.

V A H K I T I 28-Aug-18 11:19 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 29-Aug-18 12:36 AM

Oh boy, a new chat?

Aurora 29-Aug-18 01:30 AM

It's for concepts!

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Aug-18 02:01 AM

like a re-write of the dialog

omegalucas 29-Aug-18 06:06 AM

And for final boss concepts and such

rob the corn lover 29-Aug-18 06:24 AM

I we are planing on making a boss battle for the makuta level

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Aug-18 04:37 PM

The first draft of my Turaga stuff has been finalized (still pinned)! Big thanks to @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) and @The Shadow Emperor for helping me fix some things up!

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Aug-18 04:42 PM

I didn't get through it all the way but I'll give it a read out tonight and do another proofing and suggestions. Hell I could bring my English teacher friend in if you wanted haha @The Cap'm (Reese)

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Aug-18 04:42 PM

No complaints from me.

And thanks again!

Fries101Reviews 04-Sep-18 03:44 AM

@V A H K I T I what if you guys make a 3D Model of Makuta for LOMN Game

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 04-Sep-18 03:48 AM

What if you 3d print the guy

As in, an upscaled version of the toy in movie style for example (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Sep-18 03:53 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Did you get around to the rest of the doc? Not meaning to pressure you, just wondering

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 04-Sep-18 03:53 PM

i have not. ill get on that tonight

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Sep-18 03:53 PM

OK. Thanks again.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 04-Sep-18 03:54 PM

yup no issue!

Fries101Reviews 05-Sep-18 08:09 AM

@𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 that would be awesome if you guys did that for Makooti Boss

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 05-Sep-18 08:12 AM

@Fries101Reviews I'd beg my parents if I get get one

😺 QSKSw (Josie) 05-Sep-18 02:20 PM

okay but what about seinfeld

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The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Sep-18 08:25 PM

@V A H K I T I I've had my Turaga doc peer edited by two people now, so I can safely say that it's been improved. Feel free to take a look at it and tell me anything you don't like.

V A H K I T I 16-Sep-18 03:00 AM

Noice

@The Shadow Emperor Did you ever finish your Makuta pitch in full btw?

I'm trying to find it, but if you did, it was never pinned

The Shadow Emperor 16-Sep-18 03:01 AM

Not yet because I suck

V A H K I T I 16-Sep-18 03:01 AM

oof

C'mon boi. xD

The Shadow Emperor 16-Sep-18 03:04 AM

I have too many irons in the fire right now (edited)

V A H K I T I 16-Sep-18 03:05 AM

wot

The Shadow Emperor 16-Sep-18 03:16 AM

thnx for the reminder though I really do need to get on that

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 16-Sep-18 06:39 PM

He means he's got a lot of food on his plate

OldCrow 16-Sep-18 11:01 PM

Hello all! I had a great idea when playing the beta though I do not know if this has been said before or is doable.

If you return an item to a villager they give you a permanent upgrade to health and energy. Much like retrieving the vuta mata crystals in quest for the toa.

The Shadow Emperor 16-Sep-18 11:10 PM

That idea was floated before and I'm not really a fan. You'd have to balance the game around two extremes: that a player will have all possible health and energy pickups, or none at all. Tahu's first Hau room for example would lose all the challenge if he had five more energy units in his meter, and if he didn't have enough it'd be flat out impossible. It seems like a solution in search of a problem imo

OldCrow 16-Sep-18 11:13 PM

Alrighty. I just firgured it would be neat. I honestly didn't think of the logistics of difficulty and balance

The Shadow Emperor 16-Sep-18 11:16 PM

I'm not opposed to it in theory but I do worry it'd create a whole host of issues with balancing

OldCrow 16-Sep-18 11:18 PM

I see your point but I also feel like doing the matoran sidequests is basically just a waste of time. I just feel like the matoran should give you something. Like if you help all of them.

Oh well. I am sure someone will think of something

The Shadow Emperor 16-Sep-18 11:36 PM

Maybe they'd unlock a piece of original art for each Toa. Each villager could give you a third of a printer glyph

Or maybe the village could change in some way

~~bonus Takara dance~~

r543 (@mention for replies) 17-Sep-18 01:02 AM

I did think of something similar when I first played it a few days ago

What if we make the upgrades per toa instead of over the whole game? There's 3 quests, right?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Sep-18 01:04 AM

One health quest, one energy quest and one ammo quest maybe?

r543 (@mention for replies) 17-Sep-18 01:04 AM

I did get to the same conclusion of there being too many Quests if it increased the health/stats in general

Thought if something similar

The Shadow Emperor 17-Sep-18 01:05 AM

didn't think about an ammo upgrade, that's a definite possibility

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Sep-18 01:05 AM

Maybe refresh all health, energy and ammo for a one time use?

The Shadow Emperor 17-Sep-18 01:05 AM

since that wouldn't affect the balance too much

^ there's an idea too

r543 (@mention for replies) 17-Sep-18 01:05 AM

Maybe the last one giving you health and energy, or maybe damage?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Sep-18 01:05 AM

damage? don’t think that’s possible

r543 (@mention for replies) 17-Sep-18 01:06 AM

+1 Energy and Health wouldn't change the balance much, would it?

And ammo could also be done

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Sep-18 01:06 AM

no, but +6 would

r543 (@mention for replies) 17-Sep-18 01:06 AM

Why +6?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Sep-18 01:06 AM

ammo could be +50 each

r543 (@mention for replies) 17-Sep-18 01:06 AM

For each toa one?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 17-Sep-18 01:06 AM

yeah

r543 (@mention for replies) 17-Sep-18 01:19 AM

Well I meant them being bound to each toa to avoid that

Basically, once you complete Onua's level and go to Galis, you're back to default stats

kaltathenoblemind 22-Sep-18 11:35 AM

https://www.worldanvil.com/ more of an RPG thing but maybe doing a difinitve map of mata Nui/Matoran universe/Bionicle universe could aid in the creation of ideas or soemthing. like a physical encyclopedia

World Anvil Worldbuilding & RPG Campaign Management

World Anvil is a set of Worldbuilding & RPG Campaign Management tools for all Dungeon Master and fiction Authors

Aurora 23-Sep-18 01:07 PM

gUYS let's make a MARIO PARTY BIONICLE GAME with favorites like "pin the tail on the ash bear" and "The snowball sling"

God that would be hilarious

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Sep-18 01:07 PM

I think that would mean double legal trouble

Aurora 23-Sep-18 01:08 PM

Well we obviously don't call it Mario party

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Sep-18 01:08 PM

NOBUA PARTY

Aurora 23-Sep-18 01:08 PM

YES

Couch party multiplayer, up to 6 players! Choose from your favorites: Takua, Matoro, Lewa, BtG Onua Nuva, and Nobua!

And many more!

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Sep-18 01:11 PM

~~put waluigi in nobua party~~

Aurora 23-Sep-18 01:11 PM

Lol

Voriki is Waluigi

Good guy when

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Sep-18 01:12 PM

The afraid when

Aurora 23-Sep-18 01:12 PM

Lol

So yeah, @V A H K I T I it needs to happen

r543 (@mention for replies) 23-Sep-18 02:33 PM

Could work and such party games have been done by other Developers and Franchises in the past

Maybe best done if it's Matoran and not Toa, even if i know this isn't meant seriously.

Aurora 24-Sep-18 01:12 AM

I wouldn't mind custom matoran makers for each character. Maybe you just need to choose an element?

r543 (@mention for replies) 24-Sep-18 03:33 AM

More like Choose a Village which gives you a few color schemes, or go like the original Tales of the Tohunga where you have all kinds of color mixes.

OldCrow 24-Sep-18 03:59 PM

I always wanted a crpg that you play as a custom matoran. Much like fallout 1 and 2 but just bionicle

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Sep-18 04:02 PM

How about for the custom dialogue mod, you have a character who only speaks in memes/movie quotes? So something like: “And may the odds be ever in your favor, Great Toa.”

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 24-Sep-18 06:28 PM

That's kinda a thing

Mid Blue 25-Sep-18 09:51 AM

Tbh Bionicle has enough memes and movie quotes on it's own

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 25-Sep-18 11:14 AM

That's true ish

Our memes are pretty stellar imo

Hi how are ya

Deleted User 28-Sep-18 08:06 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368833368831426560/495367853218856975/unknown-4.png

vr console

G-Bond 28-Sep-18 08:23 PM

Hi how are ya

Deleted User 28-Sep-18 08:36 PM

good, you?

G-Bond 28-Sep-18 08:37 PM

damn it

Hexadecimal Mantis 28-Sep-18 08:37 PM

im good thanks

G-Bond 28-Sep-18 08:37 PM

yea?

Hexadecimal Mantis 28-Sep-18 08:37 PM

My life is a meme at this point

First Nuju Team Litestone secret technique (edited)

Then Hi how are ya?

I wonder what's next?

The Shadow Emperor 28-Sep-18 08:39 PM

what's the second one again?

Hexadecimal Mantis 28-Sep-18 08:40 PM

the team litestone secret technique was defined by me as: fixing a problem with another problem

then it gained multiple definitions

Now it's used whenever we can't fix something completely and are forced to cut corners

(Team Kanohi) ASCII 29-Sep-18 04:16 PM

Bionicle smash bros when?

1

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 29-Sep-18 04:49 PM

^^^

Mid Blue 30-Sep-18 04:57 AM

There was something

Even two things

Mid Blue 30-Sep-18 05:08 AM

https://youtu.be/ZCNH9gcZdis

Katuko

BIONICLE Fighter v14 gameplay trailer

Just some gameplay footage that is up to date. The trailer could be better, but since I'll be re-doing the engine soon I didn't spend too much time on it. Mu...

Aurora 30-Sep-18 11:03 AM

Yes but Bionicle fighter is abandoned

Has been for at least 3 years

Mokey 30-Sep-18 11:06 AM

Bionicle Clone sets but theyre Echo Fighters

Mid Blue 30-Sep-18 01:21 PM

I remember that there was also something with Tahu vs Kopaka

Radu 02-Oct-18 02:13 PM

G1 bionicles vs G2 civil war starts now

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Oct-18 02:13 PM

G1 G1 G1 G1 G1

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 02-Oct-18 02:14 PM

G1

Radu 02-Oct-18 02:15 PM

Yesterday i thinked about lego should release G1 from the first set to the last again

I send a tweet about that https://twitter.com/Aldo6667/status/1046347003276480512

Radu (@Aldo6667)

@LEGO_Group Dear LEGO, i started buying legos after my first metru nui bionicle and today i have like 50 bionicle sets. I love Bionicle, and I think you should reintroduce old bionicle sets from the very first one to new generations (titans included). Please think about th...

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Oct-18 02:16 PM

wait what, why? (edited)

they wouldn't do it for one

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 02-Oct-18 02:16 PM

Lego would never do that

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Oct-18 02:16 PM

you're in the wrong chat btw

and the past tense of think isn't thinked

Radu 02-Oct-18 02:16 PM

which chat i need? XD

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Oct-18 02:17 PM

I think this is a discussion for #beaverhouse-toys-other

V A H K I T I 02-Oct-18 02:17 PM

1

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 02-Oct-18 02:17 PM

Oh hello @V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 02-Oct-18 02:19 PM

Sup? xP

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 02-Oct-18 02:19 PM

A bit ill

Hbu Liam?

V A H K I T I 02-Oct-18 02:20 PM

Well it's my birthday and I have to work closing shift tonight so I'm not entirely pleased, but I think I got sufficiently shitfaced last night. XD

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Oct-18 02:20 PM

oh

well I hope you had a happy birthday regardless

V A H K I T I 02-Oct-18 02:20 PM

Ye, it's alright I guess.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Oct-18 02:20 PM

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 02-Oct-18 02:22 PM

Oh, happy birthday @V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 02-Oct-18 02:23 PM

^-^

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 02-Oct-18 02:24 PM

What?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Oct-18 03:34 PM

...So is someone still writing that Shadow Toa dialogue?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Oct-18 03:38 PM

Dunno

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Oct-18 03:39 PM

Because if not, I can write something up. Just sayin'.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Oct-18 03:40 PM

Yeah, try that

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Oct-18 04:51 PM

Here, how's this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHN0BHIbL94t6vvUG9tgSex2eKzw1NKBz9zFM8GK_wo/edit?usp=sharing

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - New Shadow Toa Dialogue

ONUA ONUA: “What’s happened?” SHADONUA: “Your pathetic original forms have been returned to you, ‘Great Onua.’” ONUA: “What...are you? You look like-” SHADONUA: “You? I am you. We are one and the same.” ONUA: “...No! You are an illusion created by Mak...

justframbo 21-Oct-18 05:04 PM

that's cool

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Oct-18 05:05 PM

Thanks!

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Oct-18 09:06 PM

@V A H K I T I Thoughts? (edited)

G-Bond 21-Oct-18 09:21 PM

i like how both Kopaka and Lewa act like complete dicks to there shadow selfs

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Oct-18 10:31 PM

Was that good? Wasn't sure if that was out of character for one of them or not

G-Bond 21-Oct-18 10:53 PM

ya it's good

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Oct-18 10:53 PM

Thanks. I was actually really worried about that, oddly enough.

Hexadecimal Mantis 21-Oct-18 10:56 PM

it's pretty good

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Oct-18 10:56 PM

~~only pretty good!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?~~

but thank you

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Oct-18 03:07 PM

@V A H K I T I Did you check my Shadow Toa dialogue?

V A H K I T I 22-Oct-18 03:15 PM

Not yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Oct-18 03:56 PM

OK. I'd like you to give it a look eventually, but it's no rush

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-18 06:25 PM

Got a game pitch for you guys. I'll have @🐲 RuslanDR (Damian) explain it to you later.

Right now I'll say that it's a Teisted Metal-esq car combat game. SInce said franchise is essentially dead, there's a power vacuum in that genre.

🐲 RuslanDR (Damian) 28-Oct-18 07:43 PM

hacking cough

Settle down young ones and let me tell you a tale of when the moldy oak retirement home lost its marbles.... (edited)

It was a day like any other, with the exception of the elderly gathering around a roundtable to discuss. What might you ask? See... they had gotten tired of living in a box of a building... being told what and when to do, where they could go... in a mere few moments, someone had thrown a clog at one of the nurses and the entire group hopped on their mobility scooters and went completely fucking apeshit.

Enter; Re: tired

🐲 RuslanDR (Damian) 28-Oct-18 07:55 PM

Join one of our many Prantagonists as they scoot and zip around the rubble that was once moldy oaks, such as Jösef, formal dental surgeon, whose scooter has dental drills and bone saws among its arsenal, or how about Tubby Tina? She was once a fine chef but has in her old age taken to tasting the food rather than actually making it, with her butcher's knife and catheter-bag slicks ruining anyone's traction, she is a menace to behold indeed. Then we have kindly old Olga, a babushka with a rolling pin made of solid stone and the crushed dreams of a thousand ruined gingerbed men. These and many more pleasant people await in (what is left of) Moldy Oaks. So stop by and pay grandpa a visit sometime.

🐲 RuslanDR (Damian) 28-Oct-18 08:09 PM

@V A H K I T I fuck you i did it.

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-18 08:10 PM

Gud.

Hexadecimal Mantis 28-Oct-18 08:10 PM

~~I still think we should do a 2d fighter~~

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-18 08:11 PM

I mean, that's not off the table, but this pitch is just another idea for a thing we may eventually want to pursue.

🐲 RuslanDR (Damian) 28-Oct-18 08:11 PM

we came up with it while walking to the post office.

Hexadecimal Mantis 28-Oct-18 08:12 PM

I would also love to make a platform fighter, but it would probably never end up being as perfect as melee

benji 28-Oct-18 08:14 PM

I want to make a top-down third person shooter / rpg / roguelike

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-18 08:14 PM

So you wanna make Enter The Gungeon.

Hexadecimal Mantis 28-Oct-18 08:14 PM

slight tangent: I think it would be cool to have a hftf hol horse-esque duo character in a platform fighter.

similar playstyle to either hol horse and J. Geil or Hol Horse and Boingo.

🐲 RuslanDR (Damian) 28-Oct-18 08:21 PM

I know some dudes that need game devs but they're furry trash

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Oct-18 10:30 PM

Now that you're around, @V A H K I T I , would it be possible to take a look at my Shadow Toa dialogue? It's not very long. Link's here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHN0BHIbL94t6vvUG9tgSex2eKzw1NKBz9zFM8GK_wo/edit?usp=sharing

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - New Shadow Toa Dialogue

ONUA ONUA: “What’s happened?” SHADONUA: “Your pathetic original forms have been returned to you, ‘Great Onua.’” ONUA: “What...are you? You look like-” SHADONUA: “You? I am you. We are one and the same.” ONUA: “...No! You are an illusion created by Mak...

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-18 10:33 PM

I like it. Good job capturing the primordial personalities each Toa showed in the game prior to those that the comics would eventually portray.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Oct-18 10:34 PM

Thank you! Any potential edits?

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-18 10:34 PM

Not sure. I think it looks good.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Oct-18 10:35 PM

Thanks!

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-18 10:40 PM

On that note, @Coders howlikely is it that we could implement the shadow toa anyways?

I'd ideally like to have them implemented as mentioned before like the Shadow Clones of Mario Galaxy.

Where they follow each of the player's own movements on a delay

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Oct-18 10:44 PM

So the Galaxy 2 ones, then? Not the Galaxy 1 ones where they have a set path in a race setup

V A H K I T I 28-Oct-18 10:44 PM

That would be the second, easier option, as they could just follow splines.

The Cap'm (Reese) 28-Oct-18 10:48 PM

Well, I wrote lines for either scenario, so...

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 04:04 PM

@V A H K I T I I see you're listening to Makuta's theme. Do we have any sort of official names for the songs on the soundtrack?

Because just going off the filenames, the songs are named kinda generically

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Nov-18 04:10 PM

Well, how would you name them?

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 04:10 PM

Well, I was going to ask if I could try and name them first before assuming

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 04:18 PM

MusicGaliAmbience > Testing The Waters - Gali Ambience MUSICLewaAmbience > A Late Evening Climb - Lewa Ambience (Part 1) MUSICLewaDrumAndBass > A Shape In The Treetops - Lewa Ambience (Part 2) MUSICOnuaTHEME > Rock Grinder - Theme of Onua MUSICGaliTHEME > Swimming Against The Riptide - Theme of Gali MUSICPohatuTHEME > Kicking It Up A Notch - Theme of Pohatu MUSICKopakaTHEME > In The Eye Of The Storm - Theme of Kopaka MUSICLewaTHEME > Riding The Hurricane - Theme of Lewa MUSICTahuTHEME > Turning Up The Heat - Theme of Tahu MUSICMakutaTHEME > Into Nothing - Theme of Makuta

as a start? These are just a few that I could think of at a glance of the tracks

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 04-Nov-18 04:19 PM

Sounds good

V A H K I T I 04-Nov-18 04:28 PM

Ooh I like that

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 04:29 PM

Suppose I'll keep on it, then

(btw, "Testing The Waters" is a pun. See if you can guess it.)

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 04:50 PM

(it's cuz it's used on the test menu wow I'm so clever)

V A H K I T I 04-Nov-18 04:51 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 04:51 PM

accurate

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 05:34 PM

Try these on for size. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kfi4FNU_wf4kuMMskuh5B9yxjz2J5mV1g4JaCwtc5H4/edit?usp=sharing

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - Soundtrack List

01 - Echoes - Onua Ambience 02 - Testing The Waters - Gali Ambience 03 - Running Through The Wasteland - Pohatu Ambience 04 - A Glance Over The Cold Horizon - Kopaka Ambience 05 - A Late Evening Climb - Lewa Ambience (Part 1) 06 - A Shape In The Treetops - Lewa Ambience (Part...

The Cap'm (Reese) 04-Nov-18 09:26 PM

For the record, I renamed MUSICLowAndCreepyAmbience to There's Something In The Water... - Underwater Ambience since I think this piece fits best where it was in the alpha: Gali's GLY3. Honestly, the theme sounds to me like the echo of a large underwater creature, just out of sight, but you can still hear it. I'm not too good at describing this right now, so just think Subnautica. (edited)

IIRC, the only other place it plays is in SCRP, and it doesn't exactly fit there since it's a miniboss, so that may get a change later down the road (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Nov-18 06:15 PM

@V A H K I T I Anything in here you think should change?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Nov-18 08:15 PM

Because otherwise I'm pretty happy with these

V A H K I T I 05-Nov-18 08:16 PM

Looks good

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Nov-18 08:16 PM

Cool cool

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Nov-18 10:43 PM

...Y'know, this soundtrack is really good to have in the background while you're working.

V A H K I T I 05-Nov-18 10:45 PM

ye

V A H K I T I 06-Nov-18 02:56 PM

So I'm curious. I looked over this again and noticed some of the tracks were combined?

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Nov-18 05:32 PM

Combined?

V A H K I T I 06-Nov-18 05:37 PM

Nvm I looked at it worng

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Nov-18 05:37 PM

OK

G-Bond 07-Nov-18 09:06 PM

you know what make lewas secret level Matropolis from Super man 64

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 09:38 AM

okay guys/ @V A H K I T I im here... i got the message.

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 03:21 PM

Ay, sorry I'm late @rob the corn lover, I just woke up. Anyways, I was just curious if you'd be interested in helping out with the Litestone animated intro at all.

A decent amount of people, myself included, have taken notice of your work in the server here, so I figured I'd reach out.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 03:30 PM

okay

where do we start first?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 03:37 PM

Well for starters I wouldn't mind seeing some examples of animation've done. If you don't have any, then maybe a simple walk cycle and jumping would suffice.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 06:51 PM

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 06:51 PM

Not bad.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 06:54 PM

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 06:55 PM

Yeah, I think you could definitely help out with this if you have the time. Though if you're working with blender, the model I send you might not load correctly, we'll have to see.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 06:55 PM

can you send it now?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 06:56 PM

Yeah sure, gimmie a sec

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 06:56 PM

is there any chance for me to design the final boss for lomn?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 06:57 PM

I mean, we do definitely need modelers to help with that, so you're welcome to submit ideas and concepts.

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:05 PM

Attachment: Nobua.zip (135.12 KB)

@rob the corn lover

Try both the DAE and the FBX. See which one works properly with the rig

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 07:19 PM

it... didnt work :/

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:21 PM

Even the FBX didn't?

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 07:22 PM

FBX did but YUCK! what kind of set of skeleton did your game have!?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:23 PM

In Maya it's fine. For some reason it just does this when exporting to FBX from Maya.

Or rather this is how Blender will interpret it.

benji 11-Nov-18 07:23 PM

@rob the corn lover You have to experiment to figure out which axes are which in the import window

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:24 PM

~~Or you could add Blender support to LOMNTool's output~~ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Though I think Maya is part of the problem too.

Also I apparently forgot the eye texture in my zip, one second.

Oh no it's there, it's just wrong. ...Okay. xP

Attachment: nb_cha_10xx_eyes.dds (640 B)

There, just put that in with the rest

I guess I should get you bump maps too

Stand by

Attachment: Nobua.zip (112.87 KB)

@rob the corn lover

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 07:38 PM

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:38 PM

Nice

benji 11-Nov-18 07:38 PM

are these the remodeled high-poly models?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:38 PM

No

benji 11-Nov-18 07:39 PM

shouldn't we be animating with them?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:39 PM

I don't think we have one for the Tohunga yet

Certainly not mapped to the game rig

Because you won't add Blender support for @Grampa Walker to work with

Whatever fuckness Maya is causing with the FBX export is the best we have

benji 11-Nov-18 07:40 PM

the issue is, afaik, y-up vs z-up

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:41 PM

It also messes with the scale

IIRC when imported into blender, it's almost invisibly small

benji 11-Nov-18 07:41 PM

then set the import scale correctly

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:42 PM

WHat IS the scale?

Like what units does Maya use that Blender is converting incorrectly? (edited)

benji 11-Nov-18 07:43 PM

The DAE says cm, but blender is set to meters so it scales by 0.01 to compensate, for example

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:43 PM

Huh.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 07:48 PM

this is a problem

G-Bond 11-Nov-18 07:48 PM

H I H O W A R E Y O U

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:49 PM

@rob the corn lover Yeah models in this game have stray verts all over the place

Feel free to fix that as you see fit

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 07:50 PM

there

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 07:50 PM

Noice

I'll have to remember to fix that on my end too

~~Once @benji adds rig support to LOMNTool~~ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 07:51 PM

remember to always remove doubles

benji 11-Nov-18 07:53 PM

doubles?

like overlapping vertices?

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:04 PM

yah

you need to change that

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:10 PM

?

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:12 PM

take a good look what happen if i grab the torso part

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:13 PM

Wot

@benji

benji 11-Nov-18 08:14 PM

what

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:14 PM

you do not understand do you? they do not move there legs when you move its bootie

they move when you move its torso

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:16 PM

I think the FBX export is also fucking up the bone heirarchy

Is what I pinged you for Benji

benji 11-Nov-18 08:18 PM

fine, I'll download Blender then

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:18 PM

Ay. xP

benji 11-Nov-18 08:18 PM

but FBX issues aren't on me

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:19 PM

hey!

benji 11-Nov-18 08:19 PM

hi!

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:19 PM

Ye Benji, I know. Direct LOMNTool support will probably circumvent that. xP

benji 11-Nov-18 08:19 PM

the DAE is on me, what you do from there is coded by Autodesk

and the Blender hooligans

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:19 PM

Blender is decent, it's just not supre user friendly

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:22 PM

how do i make a game besides blender and unity?

like lomnTool?

i am not trying to hack it, no. i was thinking of making an rpg vertion of lomn

(adding niniko)

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:23 PM

No no no, that's just a model converter.

Making a game from scratch, you have a number of options, but Unity is a good place to start

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:24 PM

that is IF it will be LESS laggy prosses!

my computer is a laptop

just a freaken lap

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:25 PM

Well if you're making it from scratch, it'll only be as laggy as what you put into it.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:27 PM

what can i do to make it less laggy?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:27 PM

Optimize your assets, put less into it, etc.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:27 PM

assets?

benji 11-Nov-18 08:28 PM

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:28 PM

Is that direct Dae import?

benji 11-Nov-18 08:28 PM

fbx

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:28 PM

Ah

benji 11-Nov-18 08:29 PM

these are features, not bugs

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:29 PM

Huh.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:29 PM

ahh...

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:31 PM

Also Finto, a suggestion: If you're trying to do a lot of detailed animation, but your PC can't even handle a Unity game, I'm not sure if what we're doing here is going to be a good fit, or if you can even do what you're trying to do with your own project without upgrading your PC.

Animating a single character is one thing, but once you start putting multiples, different environments, and special effects, you're going to be sitting there for days waiting for it to render, if you can even continue to edit anything at all past that point.

I would definitely advise you to upgrade your PC at your next possible opportunity, because eventually in this or your own projects, you are inevitably going to reach an impasse from which you cannot reasonably continue.

In the meantime, you can keep tinkering with the Nobua model and maybe do some models and animations for Makuta if you like, but I might just let Benji at this one since his PC is probably more up to spec to get the job done with all the things involved.

When I asked you to help out with this, I wasn't aware your PC was a literal potato, and probably wouldn't even be able to render what we're trying to do. xP

As I said though, you're still welcome to tinker. :3

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:37 PM

thanks

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:38 PM

I do hope I am wrong btw, because your project looks very promising, and it would be a shame to see it grind to a halt over circumstances you couldn't avoid.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:38 PM

some day i can make a funny easter egg right?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:38 PM

Sure.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:38 PM

niniko! GO

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:38 PM

benji 11-Nov-18 08:41 PM

m e t a l b o i

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:42 PM

O damn

As with Finto, feel free to tinker, but for the intro, I'd advise keeping it as close to the effects of the Saffire renders as possible

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:43 PM

Saffire renders?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:44 PM

The 3D renders they did plus the cutscenes already in the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6vjN9NfsyE

BricksOfSteel

Legend of Mata Nui: Celebration

Ending of the unreleased Bionicle game.

This would be a good study @benji since it has Tohunga in it already

I also just noticed a goof in this scene and it fuckin bugs me now

Gali is the only one of the visible Toa to not have her gold mask.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 08:46 PM

i see

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 08:50 PM

I think I'm gonna tinker with animations myself tonight. IIRC it should be simple if I can get the motions to look natural.

benji 11-Nov-18 09:18 PM

tryna add some procedural weathering lol

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 09:19 PM

Bump map edits?

benji 11-Nov-18 09:21 PM

nah, this is procedural so much nicer than a bump map with no resolution or uv issues

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 09:21 PM

Ah. I was just curious if this could be made to work with the game

Eg: Makuta

benji 11-Nov-18 09:22 PM

this is more what I was going for

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 09:22 PM

Ye

benji 11-Nov-18 09:23 PM

well anyone could do this with a bump map but it would need to be super hi res

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 09:23 PM

Ye

Can this be exported to a bump map?

benji 11-Nov-18 09:24 PM

Doubt it

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 09:28 PM

Oof

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 10:05 PM

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 10:23 PM

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 10:23 PM

❤

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 10:24 PM

Attachment: nobua.blend (780.66 KB)

here you go

benji 11-Nov-18 10:52 PM

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 10:53 PM

Damn boi, you're making that look good.

benji 11-Nov-18 10:55 PM

making assets look good is a hobby of mine (offtopic: this render of Andromeda meshes)

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 10:55 PM

Nice. But can you animate Nobua here?

I'll get you a sample of an animation sequence I'd like to see replicated from MNOG as part of this. Hol up

benji 11-Nov-18 10:57 PM

mind you I'm using Blender, which I have exactly zero experience using for anything other than slapping textures on things and rendering

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 10:57 PM

Huh. I thought you were using Maya.

For this anyways

Maybe minus the head turn

benji 11-Nov-18 11:06 PM

all set up for rendering

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:06 PM

Nice

benji 11-Nov-18 11:06 PM

is there an existing pick model to use?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:06 PM

Feel free to use that in the animation I guess. We can see how it looks

Uh

Not that I know of

BUT

We can use one of the LOMN picks

Which are basically Nuju's pick

And by basically I mean literally

benji 11-Nov-18 11:07 PM

can you get me the fbx?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:07 PM

Sure

I'm surprised you're using blender for this

benji 11-Nov-18 11:07 PM

and also a level to use

it's a learning experience, which I enjoy

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:08 PM

Ye, I'll have to see which one will fit best actually, cause anything we use will have to be modified slightly regardless

benji 11-Nov-18 11:08 PM

also better for interoperating with volunteers

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:08 PM

True

Grampa Walker will appreciate that

Anyways I'll get you the pick first so you can tinker with the mining sequence

Then I'll find you a level

benji 11-Nov-18 11:09 PM

@Grampa Walker What are your thoughts on a high-poly tohunga model?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:10 PM

Attachment: pic1.obj (5.49 KB)

Attachment: pic1.mtl (155 B)

OBJ saves me time, and should be fine for you since it's not rigged in the first place and contains no vertex colours

I'll get the texture in a sec

Attachment: ns_cha_10xx_pick.dds (16.13 KB)

Okay so as for the level

For our purposes, the best area to work with would be CAVE

However you'll definitely have to adjust the vertex colours cause most of the area is just pure black.

rob the corn lover 11-Nov-18 11:17 PM

try tinkering with this for me

Attachment: nobua2.blend (1.12 MB)

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:19 PM

@benji

Attachment: CAVE.fbx (403.36 KB)

Idk what textures it requires, so just use the lev1.blk

Attachment: lev1.blk (11.64 MB)

benji 11-Nov-18 11:28 PM

I'm not quite sure how to deal with this hand shape

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:28 PM

Have it turned the other way on the thumb I think

That's how Templar did it

benji 11-Nov-18 11:29 PM

not quite sure what you mean

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:30 PM

The lower half of the pick is on the outside of the thumb.

benji 11-Nov-18 11:31 PM

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:32 PM

Ye

benji 11-Nov-18 11:36 PM

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:37 PM

Looking good. Don't be afraid to clip or stretch a bit if you have to though.

I think the Tohunga arms are supposed to be felxible in that way

benji 11-Nov-18 11:52 PM

does this scale look correct?

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:52 PM

Just about

Not that it really matters for our current purposes

I'll go into the level as Nobua if I can just to confirm

Yay Nobua mode.

benji 11-Nov-18 11:58 PM

it's a wee bit dark in there atm

V A H K I T I 11-Nov-18 11:58 PM

Just a bit.

That lightstone needs to live up to its name a bit more

benji 12-Nov-18 12:25 AM

Takes forever to render and distorts Nobua's color. Thoughts?

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:27 AM

It's a little uh... crusty

Way too detailed for something that for all intents and purposes will only be used in the game at a resolution of 640x480

(Yes for the game version I'd like it to be the same scale as the other FMVs)

It would also be nice if the area retained similar lighting colour to the original vertex colours of the area

(With the dark bits of the cave obviously lightned )

benji 12-Nov-18 12:29 AM

could you post as many reference images as you can find?

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:30 AM

I uh

I sent you the original model

Unless conversion to FBX fucked the vertex colours

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Nov-18 12:30 AM

do you have a link to the nobua mode?

I want to test it out

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:30 AM

All the assets are in our dropbox. I'll give you access, just send me your email.

But yea, Benji, did that model just not have vertex colours?

Cause uh...

benji 12-Nov-18 12:34 AM

cool image

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:34 AM

I don't wanna nag you more about Blender export support

But this is your problem now

Also noice

benji 12-Nov-18 12:34 AM

yeah it has vertex colors, I just wanted to see if we could get good lighting the right way

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:34 AM

Oh.

Well yeah, I never said not to do that.

Just meant the lighting should probably reflect what was handled by the vertex colours before

Also

Why are these images so crusty? xD

It's like you have a static filter over them or smth

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:37 AM

not complete renders? second one definitely isn't

see the text at the top

benji 12-Nov-18 12:37 AM

yeah these are progressive - I use them to estimate what the final renders will look like

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:37 AM

You should use whatever blender's equivalent to Maya's draft quality is

benji 12-Nov-18 12:37 AM

the term you're looking for is 'noisy'

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:37 AM

I prefer crust thanks.

benji 12-Nov-18 12:38 AM

here's your dumb vertex colors

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:38 AM

Boi

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:38 AM

i forgot about the intestine level

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:38 AM

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Nov-18 12:38 AM

DAVE'S TUBES

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:38 AM

The Womb

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:38 AM

oh god

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:38 AM

GODDAMMIT

Nobua gonna go fight DAVE'S HEART

(I'm making a Binding of Isaac reference)

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:39 AM

while I'm here: my antivirus is claiming cheat engine's very website has some sort of threat on it

I know the installers have been iffy but

:|

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:39 AM

Well shit

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:39 AM

could be a false alarm but

does anyone know more

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:39 AM

I'm sure it's fine, but I can't say for sure

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:40 AM

I wouldn't think much of it but after their installers had iffy stuff in them previously

I don't 100% trust the folks behind it in that respect

benji 12-Nov-18 12:42 AM

can I have more screenshots of what the level is supposed to look like?

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:45 AM

Just a sec

benji 12-Nov-18 12:46 AM

oh wow it really is that red

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:46 AM

(Having Nobua in the purplier area would be more fitting I think)

Here's another one, but I think it's a bit empty to put him in.

But yeah, maybe work with the area from the second screenshot

I'll also draw out a path for the camera to follow to get there for you, hold on

Perhaps when the camera loops around in the first purple area, we could have some bat Rahi flying around?

But one thing at a time

At any rate, the whole sequence of the camera flying through the cave should take no more than 5 seconds.

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:52 AM

that seems like a long path for 5 seconds

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:53 AM

It's supposed to be fast

Sort of like the Ussal ride sequence in MNOG

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:53 AM

discord in a web browser has been doing this lately grarhghgh

didn't used to

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:53 AM

O_o

All I typed was MNOG

Er

Sort of like the Ussal ride sequence in MNOG

That

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:54 AM

oh that appeared

just not the... probably emotes or something?

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:54 AM

That's literally all that was there. Idk why your discord would fuck that up

xD

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:54 AM

0.o

derfukken

1

benji 12-Nov-18 12:55 AM

it's a smiley, your browser isn't rendering unicode emoticons right

UTTER_BODGE 12-Nov-18 12:55 AM

i love you chrome

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:55 AM

No there was no emote there

That's the thing

xD

benji 12-Nov-18 12:55 AM

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:55 AM

oooh

I'm dumb tonight.

Oh yeah Benji, I guess you'll need the Litestone model too

One sec

benji 12-Nov-18 12:57 AM

I can't quite get the vertex lighting to work right in Blender, how did we do it in Maya?

Also, I think this lighting is probably fine, right? (excuse the noise)

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:58 AM

Attachment: Litestone.fbx (39.69 KB)

That uses textures also in the blk I sent you btw

Idk about the vertex lighting btw. (edited)

As for the lighting, it should maybe still be a bit more purple.

But it's looking good overall

(FYI that's the version of the Litestone with vertex colours from Whenua's hut, just in case you're still using them in some capacity)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 12-Nov-18 01:04 AM

I have a sort of a concept that I want to show here: I had the idea of a Litestone podcast - we would just go into a voice channel and talk about the game and patches while also answering viewer questions. It would be a great start for a Litestone Youtube channel if we want that separated from the Beaverhouse Youtube channel.

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 01:04 AM

I'm down for that. I just worry that for a regular podcast we may not have a lot to discuss

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Nov-18 01:04 AM

yea

I'm also boring to listen to

We could try to generalize what we discuss. Potentially projects after lomn ~~and maybe even BTG if we ever contact those devs~~

benji 12-Nov-18 01:07 AM

there's the option to do it as a one-time thing so we don't obligate ourselves to come up with more content indefinitely

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 01:08 AM

I suppose

benji 12-Nov-18 01:08 AM

best boi goin at it

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 01:08 AM

❤

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Nov-18 01:08 AM

but the real question is

Is best boi getting payed?

~~cause I know i'm not~~

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 01:08 AM

benji 12-Nov-18 01:09 AM

~~he's not if I'm not~~

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 01:09 AM

Also nice procedural rock textures

benji 12-Nov-18 01:11 AM

thanks

so you just want him smashing any old wall?

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 01:11 AM

Ye I guess. Whatever you think looks good cinematically, but ideally the camera should pull up beside him like you have there when it enters this room

The model will need some edits for the effects we want to add later.

For instance whatever wall you have him on, either you or I will have to add a pocket behind it containing the Litestone, as well as a glyph of the Saffire logo that he'll ultimately be digging through to get to it.

On a slightly unrelated note, I'm surprised we're actually getting around to doing this. Omegalucas came up with the idea a while ago, but I never really thought we'd actually do it.

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 01:58 AM

How goes it Benji?

benji 12-Nov-18 02:19 AM

hecc, animating is easier said than done

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 02:19 AM

I figured.

You using keyframes or other methods?

benji 12-Nov-18 02:27 AM

yep

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 02:27 AM

The most I've ever done with keyframes is The BEaverhouse watermark, and the Jala test render from a few months ago.

The only reason The Beaverhouse watermark looks decent is because I applied cloth physics to the tie.

benji 12-Nov-18 02:35 AM

I'll leave you tonight with this

1080p render

minimal noise

3

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 02:35 AM

❤

I'm tryna find that Jala render for you cause I'm curious where I put it. xD

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412066953167896587/421070761709535232/Jala_Test.mp4

There ya go.

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 09:00 AM

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 10:32 AM

hold a makuta concept

each elemental pod has weakness

@V A H K I T I ?

pottosquares 12-Nov-18 10:52 AM

you could have a shadow link style mini boss for each toa, in their respective makuta challenge levels

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 10:53 AM

as in

his first appearance before he changed into a shadow vertions of elemental bosses?

pottosquares 12-Nov-18 10:54 AM

i guess???

i'm just going by what i recall seeing in MNOG once

i remember the toa having to fight shadow versions of themselves

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 12:20 PM

@rob the corn lover Actually kinda like the looks of that.

Pinned a message.

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 12:21 PM

thanks

my first concept of final boss

SharpieSkunk 12-Nov-18 12:32 PM

@rob the corn lover holy shit it's undertale

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 12:33 PM

each color is a diffrint element

SharpieSkunk 12-Nov-18 12:33 PM

I know, that's just the first thing that came to my mind

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 12-Nov-18 12:34 PM

I see what you mean @SharpieSkunk

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 12:40 PM

omegalucas 12-Nov-18 05:17 PM

I really like the Makuta concept too, but how could it be done? Doubt you guys could code a way to swap Toa on the fly

Unless its done in a fixed order like Metal Madness/Overlord in Sonic Heroes (edited)

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 05:18 PM

wish there is a tutorial shows how to swap toa

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:19 PM

Swapping toa on the fly would be possible through the usage of events. Problem is the game loves to spawn you out of world for some reason.

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 05:19 PM

the last tutorial will be found In final level before the boss

omegalucas 12-Nov-18 05:19 PM

Under control by the player?

Like, again, Sonic Heroes

(but this time on regular gameplay) (edited)

G-Bond 12-Nov-18 05:20 PM

UHH MY SPINNING

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:21 PM

changetoa is a thing already, though it has issues. Try changing toa in the debug menu to see why.

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 05:26 PM

is there a way to fix the issue?

omegalucas 12-Nov-18 05:26 PM

Won't that function imply reloading? (edited)

(I have no idea how it works really)

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:30 PM

Yeah it swaps out the current toa you're playing as

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 05:32 PM

It also spawns them at the levels spawn point when it does work

Not the current position

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:32 PM

That's something I might be able to fix now that I think about it.

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 05:33 PM

we need a better way to make... 2 vars... player spawn point and player current point

we need a check point

...a matanui stone check point that alter your spawn point when you die

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:34 PM

Check points are a thing in this game. See BLR1, BLR2 for example. Once you pass through a trigger plane, it sets the respawn point upon death to a new location.

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 05:34 PM

Oh?

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:34 PM

Yep

It's handled by the onevent subroutine

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 05:35 PM

if we can fix the swaping... we can make sure it won't spawn you to the check point

the dying will

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:36 PM

changetoa is handled by a subroutine in the OSI apparently

Might be able to force it to load a specific start point in an area

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 05:38 PM

I will design the check point then

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:42 PM

@V A H K I T I Found what I was looking for. Changing toa won't drop you out of world anymore

I was able to force it load the first start position in a given area

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 05:42 PM

Ooh

Awesome

Now if we can just make it call the proper setup for each toa

We can fix the crashes too

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:44 PM

I was able to make some progress on that

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 05:44 PM

Then that sets up Makuta nicely in the process

I wonder how hard it would be to have entities attack each other.

I ask because we could potentially have the other Toa loaded in as NPCs fighting Makuta themselves, and when you switch, it unloads the NPC and loads the player version

omegalucas 12-Nov-18 05:46 PM

Will that changetoa function keep the changes you made?

As in the HP you took from Makuta

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:47 PM

Currently, no

omegalucas 12-Nov-18 05:48 PM

Do you think that's moddable with the hookmod?

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:49 PM

changetoa is entirely OSI handled; dunno how much hookmodding we would need at this point

omegalucas 12-Nov-18 05:51 PM

Also, how feasible would it be to create a dedicated melee function? Instead of it simply triggering with distance and replacing the regular projectile attack, having it be a separate button triggerable from any distance

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:51 PM

That I want to say would be doable

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Nov-18 05:51 PM

~~Or make Onua's actually hit~~

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Nov-18 05:52 PM

I think it would be very doable

You can do it now in theory

Just make something that sets your ammo to 0 when pressing a key, and press another key to restore the value

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:53 PM

We need to hookmod ammo funcitons though

Those are entirely hardcoded

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Nov-18 05:53 PM

You could even pull this off with something like cheat engine

omegalucas 12-Nov-18 05:53 PM

@V A H K I T I this is a must for the optional patch imo

Hexadecimal Mantis 12-Nov-18 05:53 PM

Or jus modify the program ondrik wrote

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 05:55 PM

if all 6 orbs are blasted, makuta will reveal himself but only blasting you while you blast at him.

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 05:55 PM

I want to hook AddAmmo anyway for debug purposes, but being able to push values onto it would be very useful anyway.

omegalucas 12-Nov-18 06:01 PM

I think it'd add a degree of strategy to the game

More options to approach enemies

And to manage resources (not that it's needed, it's hard to spend all the elemental energy)

Probably makes it easier to beat those stupid little super framerate scorpions (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Nov-18 06:03 PM

Tell that to Kopaka. Few pickups in the level itself, and his melee doesn't drop anything (edited)

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 06:15 PM

Not sure where that is controlled either

benji 12-Nov-18 06:38 PM

About settoa: just get the position on to the stack, set toa, and then set the position saved on the stack from before

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 06:54 PM

@benji This is a thing apparently:

GetVariableValueGlobalString "globalclass" GetMemberValueString "player" GetMemberValueString "actor" GetThisMemberValueString "enterstartid" GetThisMemberValueString "enterlookid" Pull 3 GetMemberFunctionString "gotopos" JumpAbsolute 3 Pop

@V A H K I T I Never mind on the start position thing with the changetoa

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 06:56 PM

?

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 06:57 PM

Poor wording. This code ensures that where you enter from is the start point for respawning for example.

So if you backtracked into a room and died, you'd start there instead of the str0 point (unless there's only one door of course, then this is irrelevant)

Using this for the changetoa subroutine works the same way

You'll get spawned at the last start point you entered from

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 07:01 PM

Nice

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 07:04 PM

And it apparently doesn't like that

'reference to a non-existant member function' excuse me

it's calling the fucking global class, don't tell it doesn't exist

oh hold up.

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 07:11 PM

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 07:21 PM

Sooo

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 07:23 PM

Code works, just not as intended. Still drops you into the str0 point for some reason

As for the turaga in lev8, I think I know why Whenua flipped out

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 07:26 PM

Oh?

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 07:26 PM

Yeah part of the issue there was they're all using the same stack variable... which doesn't exist

I went ahead and created 6 variables for the area, one for each turaga to use. This un-fucked a few of the turaga automatically for some reason and spun Whenua around further O_o

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 07:28 PM

Huh

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 07:30 PM

OH WAIT

It's the wrong code

no wonder it's not working

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 07:44 PM

Kek

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 07:51 PM

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 07:55 PM

Ay

rob the corn lover 12-Nov-18 08:01 PM

we can make a checkpoint and hero swap mechanic if you want.

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:15 PM

Hey so this is a little random, but Reese and I were kind of spitballing an idea for GLY3 in Gali's level. Shot a vid of it if anyone would like to give some feedback

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:17 PM

?

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQiabsf4Jvs

Shadowknight

GLY3 - Dark and Scary mode

What happens when you add a dark fog effect to a massive underwater cave? If you aren't scared of this area now, you will be after watching this.

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:20 PM

I like it but it also seems a little obnoxious

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:22 PM

In what sense?

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:23 PM

Not being able to see two feet in front of you in a level that not only requires a sense of direction, but also a general idea of where your current source of life is located.

Besides

Unless the ruru works with fog, you're gonna wanna do that with vertex colours instead

Otherwise there's thematically no point

It contradicts the very idea of the game

(Utilizing Kanohi to approach situations differently)

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:30 PM

Idk it was just an idea to make the gigantic underwater cave feel more like a dark cave.

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:30 PM

Yeah but you've gotta think about the gameplay connotation to that.

Can I use the Ruru here to see better? No? Why not?

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:46 PM

~~Because it's the Makuta, Kapura~~ Yeah using the Ruru underwater is a problem in and of itself. Again, just spitballing a bit. I mean I'd love to have a fog slb that operates like the light slb, so we can cloak specific locations in an are in darkness impervious to the Ruru, creating some mystique. Like zones the Ruru can't penetrate.

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:50 PM

Maybe

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:50 PM

But anyway I left a little surprise in starting at 5:02 in the vid. Kind of the reason I used the fog like this.

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:50 PM

Oh, I'll have to double check then, I just skimmed it cause I'm out at dinner

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:50 PM

Hehe

oh shit I have like 8 minutes left

OSI updating, got it

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:51 PM

Ye

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:52 PM

Also I was thinking about opening up a separate branch to work in like benji suggested the other day

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:55 PM

Mayhaps

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:56 PM

Updates pushed

If anything got borked I'll fix it as soon as I get back

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:57 PM

Most thank

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:57 PM

np

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:57 PM

You got the patch notes done for things that were built?

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:58 PM

I think I forgot to do that

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:58 PM

ShadowDraikana 12-Nov-18 08:58 PM

I'll fix it and add that when I get back

Anyway, have a nice night

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Nov-18 08:58 PM

night

V A H K I T I 12-Nov-18 08:58 PM

C ya tomorrow

~~Dont come back without a fixed Nobua camera. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 12-Nov-18 11:06 PM

Random update on my end, but I changed my rename of MUSICLowAndCreepyAmbience on my soundtrack list. That is all.

G-Bond 13-Nov-18 02:37 AM

Question are you guys gonna try to make the Tarakava sets and replace the ones that exist in both Gali and Lewas level while the Sand Tarakava model goes to the Pohatu level?

V A H K I T I 13-Nov-18 02:42 AM

G-Bond 13-Nov-18 02:44 AM

benji 13-Nov-18 03:33 AM

made some desktops for me, figured I'd post them

V A H K I T I 13-Nov-18 03:34 AM

nice

rob the corn lover 13-Nov-18 10:15 AM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Nov-18 10:16 AM

oi

that looks awesome

rob the corn lover 13-Nov-18 10:22 AM

i wonder if pixel light is a spin off compony that will make pixelated bionicle related games?

2d platform actully?

with only a use of game maker

and make it pixStone

making the yellow rainbow

rob the corn lover 13-Nov-18 10:39 AM

or pixtone

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Nov-18 10:41 AM

or ruubi

xD

rob the corn lover 13-Nov-18 10:58 AM

say... do you think litestone will eccept making a bionicle manga? (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Nov-18 11:00 AM

"limestone"

rob the corn lover 13-Nov-18 11:02 AM

fixed

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Nov-18 11:03 AM

well idk about that

benji 13-Nov-18 01:57 PM

high-res best boi on point

5

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Nov-18 02:01 PM

OH NO

HE'S ASSERTING DOMINANCE

SharpieSkunk 13-Nov-18 02:02 PM

you sure it just looks like he's standing to me

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Nov-18 02:02 PM

yeah I was making a joke

SharpieSkunk 13-Nov-18 02:03 PM

as was I

mctoran are constantly t-posing by design

ShadowDraikana 13-Nov-18 02:03 PM

We seriously need Litestone NujuThink T-pose shirts

~~with the vertex barfing~~

omegalucas 13-Nov-18 03:00 PM

High poly best boy looks so good

Dayum

V A H K I T I 13-Nov-18 03:00 PM

@benji IK rig when?

benji 13-Nov-18 03:01 PM

I'm messing around with creating new Nobua textures as vector graphics

omegalucas 13-Nov-18 03:01 PM

He was the only new named Matoran in LOMN right?

@benji YES

V A H K I T I 13-Nov-18 03:01 PM

Ye

omegalucas 13-Nov-18 03:02 PM

These sexy models need new textures

And bump maps

benji 13-Nov-18 03:17 PM

Thoughts on the foot texture so far?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 13-Nov-18 03:18 PM

looks awesome

omegalucas 13-Nov-18 03:34 PM

I assume you refer to the circles (it's hard to be sure without something to compare it to)

If that's it, looks good to me

benji 13-Nov-18 03:36 PM

Added bump. This is pretty much it, am I missing something?

omegalucas 13-Nov-18 03:36 PM

Did you also redo the bump?

Looks really good

Inb4 Liam "IK!!!!"

benji 13-Nov-18 03:38 PM

Could anyone take a ton of reference photographs of these parts for me to refer to while retexturing?

sporting his new feet

omegalucas 13-Nov-18 04:58 PM

Did you add the wear and tear or was it in the original textures / bump maps already? (edited)

benji 13-Nov-18 06:20 PM

The small wear is procedurally added in Blender, although it could be added manually to the bump texture at this higher resolution.

The Cap'm (Reese) 19-Nov-18 08:55 PM

I was farther along with this than I thought. Here's what I've got so far: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ovgnGF3Nk152bbIuUn7WGAZEpPG2BX94Vo17bDVTL0/edit?usp=sharing

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - Level 8 - Nobua: All Text

OPENING: General idea: Nobua, out of curiosity, followed Whenua out of Onu-Koro as he headed to Kini-Nui. He then witnessed the explosion that summoned the Toa, and saw Takua fly off. However, he then accidentally pokes out from his hiding place and is spotted by the Turaga....

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 12:43 PM

@V A H K I T I I only put in Ga-Koro and Onu-Koro, but if he visits the rest of them I'll obviously do those too

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Nov-18 12:44 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) Have Nokama translate Nuju's text

he canonically speaks bird to the Tohunga

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 12:45 PM

Well I know that, but that's not a thing as of LoMN

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Nov-18 12:45 PM

how come?

In the Glossary, Matoro is mentioned as "the only translator of Nuju's stories"

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 12:45 PM

...Did you not see him talk in TURA SHRN or BOSS?

not bird

Just trying to be consistent

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Nov-18 12:45 PM

he speaks Matoran with Kopaka

hold up

Nuju gradually began to speak only in the language of the birds, training Matoro to be his translator. Nuju claimed that the change in language was due to the fact that if others did not have the patience to hear him speak, then they were not worth talking to. He retained his knowledge of the Matoran language, but used it only in emergencies, such as explaining to a newly-arrived Toa Mata Kopaka his quest. So he speaks Matoran in emergencies, but he speaks bird in every other occasion

So, that begs the question: Should a Matoran following a Turaga be considered an emergency?

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 12:48 PM

How about I just leave that up to the boss? I'll change it if he gives the go ahead.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Nov-18 12:48 PM

Aight

omegalucas 20-Nov-18 01:07 PM

I asked about that sometime ago

Liam says he wants to keep Nuju talking Matoran (edited)

Because that was the original idea back when the game was being developed

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:23 PM

This ^ (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Nov-18 02:23 PM

ah okay

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:23 PM

Noted. It stays, then.

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:23 PM

Bird speak for Nuju didn't become an idea universally until MNOG got to him

Every media prior to that had him speak Matoran.

Anyways I do have one complaint.

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:24 PM

Ye?

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:25 PM

Whenua is to be playable also in some sections. The idea is that they make their way back together, and occasionally swap playable roles for different areas and puzzles.

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:25 PM

Yeah?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Nov-18 02:25 PM

~~whenua and nobua coop mode when~~

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:25 PM

From what I've read so far, you've set up the plot as Whenua sends him off on his own

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:26 PM

Well, I've never been explicitly told how that was gonna work. I'll change that now, though

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:26 PM

Aight

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:29 PM

There, changed it up a bit.

Are the only two villages they visit going to be Ga-Koro and Onu-Koro?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Nov-18 02:31 PM

I think so

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:33 PM

Ye

I like this but ya removed Whenua's passive dialogue for Kini.

Also

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:35 PM

oops

didn't actually mean to do that

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:36 PM

I may have to add some more for TMBL since that's the only area I know will be a Whenua section. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:36 PM

TMBL dialogue? Or the totem?

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:36 PM

Dialogue

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:37 PM

Ah

I did the totem a while ago, which is why I asked

Any idea as to what a conversation there would be?

*be about

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:38 PM

Not sure the details, I say just have it tie into the fact that Whenua is taking the lead here.

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:38 PM

Noted. I can work with that

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 20-Nov-18 02:39 PM

Maybe like This is too dangerous for you, Nobua. I'll go first, and you follow me

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:50 PM

Hmm. Now I wonder...

Maybe it'd be wise to have a bit of banter between Whenua and Nobua in more areas

V A H K I T I 20-Nov-18 02:51 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 20-Nov-18 02:52 PM

Not every area per se, but building a rapport between the two main characters could make this bonus level really feel unique

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:08 PM

Hold a sec. Isn't it a thing in canon that Onua's capsule landed on the island first?

So the timeline of events would be Kini-Nui explosion, Onua's capsule lands, he rebuilds himself, meets Nobua

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:10 PM

Yes?

And? :P

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:10 PM

So how is Gali already in Ga-Koro and diving from Naho Falls if Onua isn't even up and about yet

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:11 PM

Hm

I mean... This game isn't exactly canon as it is

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:11 PM

True

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:11 PM

I say we take the liberty for gameplays sake

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:12 PM

I will also note that Nobua doesn't recognize Onua as a Toa on sight, so if he sees Gali that'll have to be explained away somehow

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:12 PM

Hm

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Nov-18 12:12 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:14 PM

Specifically, he says: "If you're Toa Onua, the Earth Spirit...that means that the other Toa must be here too..." (edited)

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:17 PM

Well what would you suggest?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:18 PM

Well, that's...kind of why I brought it up here.

Either the opening lines can be changed (which is the less preferable option), or maybe Whenua explains away Gali in some fashion? It's a bit of a conundrum.

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:21 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:21 PM

The only way I'm currently thinking of for the latter is Whenua just saying that the thing Nobua saw must have been a Rahi, but I'm not sure why that would happen in-character.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:37 PM

Okay, how about this:

NOBUA: “What was that!? / It was so tall...not like any Rahi I’ve ever seen…” / WHENUA: “Hmm? What did you see, Nobua?” / NOBUA: On the falls! There was some sort of tall, blue Rahi that just jumped into the water!” / WHENUA: “Tall blue Rahi? Was it a Tarakava?” / NOBUA: No! It it had legs, and a face like ours without a mask!” / WHENUA: “Strange. Perhaps we should inform Nokama of this when she returns…”

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 21-Nov-18 12:38 PM

That could work

I could try to arrange all the text into a stringtable

no promises though

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:39 PM

I like it

WOuld also explain why Nobua was afraid of Onua.

He's seen his like before and had no idea wtf he was looking at

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:40 PM

What would need to happen here is that as soon as you're warped out of CVLG and into GVLG, you'd need to use forceconversation to cause this to immediately happen

In fact, that's basically what would happen for each of these Nobua and Whenua conversations

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:41 PM

Can you set that up?

Idk how your OSI training is going, so I can't gauge your current skill.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:42 PM

Me personally? Not at the current moment. I'd need this text in the stringtable, and I think forceconversation was up next on the docket for training

V A H K I T I 21-Nov-18 12:43 PM

Fair enough, Well bring that up with Nate then and see what you two can accomplish. Use this as your training example even.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 12:43 PM

THat's the plan!

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Nov-18 04:54 PM

One thing that may be good in the future would be to make the Nobua and Whenua conversations actual cutscenes. Adds to the effect of the conversation, lessens both the stiffness of normal conversations and also takes away from the thing Liam mentioned about conversations halting the gameplay (since cutscenes can be easily skipped with one button while conversations require the mashing of the space bar) (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 04:18 PM

I think I've finished all of the Lev8 text until we have both a solid map order and an idea on how the level is going to progress (character switching, minibosses/bosses, etc). Feel free to give it another look-through.

(repost for convenience) https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ovgnGF3Nk152bbIuUn7WGAZEpPG2BX94Vo17bDVTL0/edit?usp=sharing

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - Level 8 - Nobua: Text

OPENING General idea: Nobua, out of curiosity, followed Whenua out of Onu-Koro as he headed to Kini-Nui. He then witnessed the explosion that summoned the Toa, and saw Takua fly off. However, he then accidentally pokes out from his hiding place and is spotted by the Turaga. ...

Criticisms are very welcome

DarkTahu 23-Nov-18 04:38 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) looks cool. I will read it tomorrow. What is exactly?

I'm new to this forum

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 04:39 PM

It's my current text for the eighth level. Work in progress stuff. (edited)

I post it here to get feedback. This channel is all for conceptual stuff

DarkTahu 23-Nov-18 04:40 PM

Wow, then I will give you feedback tomorrow

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 04:40 PM

OK, thanks

DarkTahu 23-Nov-18 04:41 PM

You're welcome!

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Nov-18 05:29 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) You should add some text to Whenua where he says something along the lines of "We will be in trouble soon. Look for Onua. He's going to save us!"

to connect it with what Nobua is saying in cin3

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 05:30 PM

Well, that's what I was going for in the first le-wahi conversation. Telling him to keep the legend in mind and such. (edited)

Suppose I can add a mention of Onua specifically.

Anything else?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Nov-18 05:31 PM

I think that's about it (edited)

from me

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 05:31 PM

The rest is up to quality standards, then?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Nov-18 05:31 PM

Yes, I'd say so

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 05:34 PM

NOBUA: “The Bionicle? Of course I do! / The legend of the Toa, six heroes who will fall from the sky to save us from the evil of Makuta and awaken the Great Spirit. / On the day of their arrival, Toa Onua the Earth Spirit shall arrive in Onu-Koro to save us from a great danger, then unite with the other Toa to destroy Makuta once and for all…”

How's that?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Nov-18 05:34 PM

Yes, that's better

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 05:34 PM

Good

I also think for the sake of convenience that I'll keep the GVLG conversation as when 02 so we don't have to keep editing that convo slb

Even though it'll be technically out of order

I'll add it to the stringtable once @V A H K I T I gives it the full go-ahead

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 05:43 PM

I like it

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 05:44 PM

Nice. Should I add all of them in the doc, or just the first Le-Wahi one?

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 05:46 PM

I'll have to read the rest still

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 05:46 PM

OK. I'll just put this one in for now, then

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 05:52 PM

Having a look now

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 05:52 PM

I'll also mark which conversation number each bit of dialogue is since they won't be in perfect order

and K

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 05:56 PM

I like it.

Put it all in

Great job.

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 05:56 PM

Thanks!

I'll get on that in just a moment here.

Don't want a typo-ridden mess like last time

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 06:09 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 06:57 PM

So for when I get there, do the Danci Bois have a specific ID for them speaking or do they just use isld?

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 06:58 PM

1hat

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 06:59 PM

OK. I'll make sure to put that in the stringtable then once I get to the villager dialogue

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 07:35 PM

All of Whenua's stuff is done. Posting to dropbox now

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 07:35 PM

Ayy

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 07:35 PM

And I made sure there weren't any typos this time.

Gonna be working on the Ga-Koro matoran next. Question, though: are we still planning on adding in danci bois into every village? If so, I'll add some dialogue for Ga-Koro danci gorls real quick.

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 07:38 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 07:38 PM

Got it

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 07:43 PM

I still can't believe how quickly this is coming together

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 07:47 PM

Neither can I. I thought this was going to be a trip to hell and back, but it's been relatively good so far

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 09:15 PM

Ga-Koro dialogue is finished and is being posted to db now

Gonna take about an hour break, then I'll finish up Onu-Koro (and subsequently the lev8 stringtable for the moment)

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 10:05 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 11:35 PM

@Hexadecimal Mantis Been a while on this, so I need a quick refresher. My full count is above FF (specifically, it's 101). Do I just enter 0x101 for the full count?

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-Nov-18 11:35 PM

no

remember hexadecimal is just a representation

so 101 in decimal != 101 in hexadecimal

unless you mean 0x101

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 11:37 PM

My full count was 0xF5. I added 3 entries and 9 strings, bringing F5 up to 101 according to my Hex calculator. (edited)

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 11:38 PM

~~This is why we need to just be able to enter decimal numbers~~

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-Nov-18 11:38 PM

boi that would make it more confusing

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 11:38 PM

Just being able to enter "101" would make it more confusing?

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-Nov-18 11:38 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) that should work

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 11:38 PM

Okay, thank you.

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 11:39 PM

I still don't get how this is an issue tbh

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-Nov-18 11:39 PM

Its just not efficient to take decimal input for this

cause you would need to do math to even know the decimal value in the first place

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 11:40 PM

Which is why I suggested we INDEX the default counts.

Then we just have to add onto that.

Hell you could even have the tool do that on export

Hexadecimal Mantis 23-Nov-18 11:40 PM

that will hopefully be a thing in DX, since it would be a real time editor

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 11:40 PM

Just have it spit out a message

"Your current full count is 75"

Etc.

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 11:49 PM

And there you go. Lang_eng.blk is now complete.

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 11:50 PM

How much of it is implemented?

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 11:52 PM

Well, you'll need to rig up convo slbs for that. I just updated the stringtable with all the stuff

GVLG has its Whenua conversation and ENDG has its endgame text, but that's it afaik

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 11:53 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Nov-18 11:53 PM

Most of the Whenua conversations don't even have maps decided for them yet since we don't have a proper map order

V A H K I T I 23-Nov-18 11:54 PM

True

V A H K I T I 24-Nov-18 12:10 AM

Anyways Imma get some sleep. Good job btw.

Night

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Nov-18 12:10 AM

I'll also sleep now. Thanks, and good night.

Hexadecimal Mantis 24-Nov-18 12:10 AM

I never sleep

except when I need to

Aurora 24-Nov-18 08:27 AM

I want one of those nifty litestone avatars. :(

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Nov-18 08:34 AM

@Aurora ask Liam

Aurora 24-Nov-18 02:40 PM

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 24-Nov-18 02:41 PM

Only for Litestone staff

Sorry

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Nov-18 02:41 PM

~~oh yeah can I get my icon plox~~

V A H K I T I 24-Nov-18 02:42 PM

What was the mask you wanted?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Nov-18 02:42 PM

Orange Akaku

Aurora 24-Nov-18 02:46 PM

Booo

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Nov-18 02:49 PM

oi

V A H K I T I 24-Nov-18 02:54 PM

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Nov-18 02:55 PM

Thank

Chud Marcus (Sven) 24-Nov-18 03:17 PM

Bam bois

Got mine

V A H K I T I 24-Nov-18 03:20 PM

Ye. (Chud is Sven btw)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Nov-18 03:23 PM

I'm pretty sure that people know that after reading it once, Liam

V A H K I T I 24-Nov-18 03:23 PM

Some people mute the litestone channels and vice versa

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 24-Nov-18 03:25 PM

why

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 24-Nov-18 03:27 PM

I see the background of my mask is all white

V A H K I T I 24-Nov-18 03:28 PM

Yes?

justframbo 25-Nov-18 06:17 AM

hrm

V A H K I T I 25-Nov-18 06:17 AM

No u

justframbo 25-Nov-18 06:17 AM

bugger - i'm torn

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Nov-18 06:17 AM

?

justframbo 25-Nov-18 06:18 AM

keep non-game-conforming pfp

or join in on the litestone look

despite mainly working on BMoP anyway...

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Nov-18 06:19 AM

🍆 Vahkiti (Liam)Today at 1:38 AM ~~Company enforced uniforms~~ :Pac: But yeah, all staff get one. If not to use here, then it WILL be enforced for the about us section of the website. :stuck_out_tongue: So pick a mask, pick a colour, and conform. xP

justframbo 25-Nov-18 06:19 AM

well in that case -

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Nov-18 06:19 AM

You will get one anyway

justframbo 25-Nov-18 06:20 AM

I'm a light grey huna

*please..

justframbo 25-Nov-18 06:33 AM

wait we have a web sight?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Nov-18 06:35 AM

yes

https://github.com/TheLegendOfMataNui/Website

TheLegendOfMataNui/Website

Litestone Website. Contribute to TheLegendOfMataNui/Website development by creating an account on GitHub.

justframbo 25-Nov-18 06:47 AM

ooh

you should make it 2001 era style

considering what we're reviving here

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Nov-18 06:48 AM

Well, Liam wants it in that style

talk about that with him

Teylgate 25-Nov-18 07:40 AM

How do you view the site from the GitHub?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 25-Nov-18 07:41 AM

You need to download it and run any of the .html files

Teylgate 25-Nov-18 07:41 AM

Ah aight

Thi' 30-Nov-18 06:38 AM

@Ond

@Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) Why using html ? I could help, but using php/scss for clarity and re-usability

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 09:10 AM

I don’t know, I’m not making the website

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 09:12 AM

~~php sucks~~

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 09:12 AM

kek

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 09:12 AM

but i'm not making the website, so it's not up to me

Thi' 30-Nov-18 10:37 AM

any js framework if you prefer, but static html is meh

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 10:37 AM

I agree with that to a certain extent

I'll ask metroidwave about that later

rob the corn lover 30-Nov-18 11:09 AM

can I get my icon plox?

please?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 11:10 AM

sorry, they're litestone staff only

rob the corn lover 30-Nov-18 11:10 AM

well... okay then

ill make phi games

benji 30-Nov-18 12:59 PM

Because static sites are free to host on GitHub pages (edited)

Hexadecimal Mantis 30-Nov-18 01:00 PM

oh so we are avoiding those spicy fees?

benji 30-Nov-18 01:18 PM

And spicy php

DarkTahu 30-Nov-18 02:48 PM

The website looks great!

keep the good work!

are translators part of Litestone staff?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 30-Nov-18 02:50 PM

Yes

So, pick a mask and a color @DarkTahu

DarkTahu 30-Nov-18 02:51 PM

great! I will choose wisely

benji 30-Nov-18 07:26 PM

Here's a thought from me on how the website could be designed

The white text shouldn't be over a bright background ofc

Also the navbar collapses to a toggle menu on small screens

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Nov-18 07:28 PM

>a cancelled (edited)

benji 30-Nov-18 07:28 PM

G-Bond 30-Nov-18 07:28 PM

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Nov-18 07:28 PM

I think you mean "a cancelled game" (edited)

1

benji 30-Nov-18 07:29 PM

ok u know what?

there you go

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Nov-18 07:30 PM

thank

V A H K I T I 30-Nov-18 07:47 PM

I like it.

@Metroidwave

Thoughts?

Metroidwave 30-Nov-18 08:43 PM

I'm okay with it.

V A H K I T I 30-Nov-18 08:43 PM

I think both your designs have good elements

Metroidwave 30-Nov-18 08:43 PM

's better than what I have now

I apprieciate that.

V A H K I T I 30-Nov-18 08:44 PM

I like the panels in yours for instance

Swordsworth 30-Nov-18 08:55 PM

B r i n g a c a n c e l l e d b a c k t o l i f e

G-Bond 30-Nov-18 09:01 PM

Pin it (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 30-Nov-18 09:01 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) would you also like to help with the manual?

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Nov-18 09:18 PM

Oh, sure

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 30-Nov-18 09:27 PM

dm me your google email so I may grant you access

DarkTahu 01-Dec-18 02:53 AM

@benji looks beautiful

DarkTahu 01-Dec-18 03:29 AM

I've chosen the Kanohi Hau Nuva (orange)

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 01-Dec-18 04:57 AM

Jesus christ how many tabs dies a person need!?

benji 01-Dec-18 04:59 AM

that's a casual amount

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 01-Dec-18 05:01 AM

WHAT THE FUCK!!!?

The only tabs I have open are my mail, facebook, deviantART dailymotion classic Doctor Who, classic Who episode list, Google translate, movie jibs list...thing and gmail

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-Dec-18 10:48 PM

ay folks heres the manual WIP. You want something changed? make a comment!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pH5hz5KVIvBnbbOeZwidDWCXsUdBR4qdwabBi5aUVfc/edit?usp=sharing

LOMN Manual

Game-Set up (installation, etc) 2-3 pages Introduction (story summary) 1 page Getting started (main menu navigation explanation) 2 pages Character controls (how each character plays and their abilities) 2 pages Stages & Stage pickups and items (items in stage and what they do...

V A H K I T I 01-Dec-18 10:56 PM

"sand boarding"??

Also by the time we get this box out, we MIGHT have mac support

All of page 2 may need tweaking since we've had reports that the uninstaller just doesn't work

Also I'd remove the horns thing entirely and set Q back to the mask switch controls

This is only a temporary partial fix (edited)

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-Dec-18 11:07 PM

~~why werent these comments..~~

V A H K I T I 01-Dec-18 11:07 PM

I don't have edit permissions?

You fucking dweeb.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-Dec-18 11:08 PM

well

frick you

V A H K I T I 01-Dec-18 11:08 PM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-Dec-18 11:08 PM

sand boarding only because its like hes snowboarding on sand, is that in thge game?

V A H K I T I 01-Dec-18 11:08 PM

No? xD

There's Snowboarding, actual surfing, and Lava surfing

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-Dec-18 11:10 PM

reese and I just decided to call it sliding. the first part is just layout. after that its the manual

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-Dec-18 11:23 PM

@V A H K I T I the page 2 is copy pasta from the racers 2 manual

for mac support we can put a QR code in the tech support because that wil be updated on a higher basis

also @The Cap'm (Reese) can you do the level descriptions Im not familiar enough haha

The Cap'm (Reese) 01-Dec-18 11:30 PM

I can, but not right at this moment.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 01-Dec-18 11:48 PM

you got it. take your time

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Dec-18 11:51 AM

Would Ga-Wahi be considered on the north eastern part of the island or just the eastern?

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 02-Dec-18 12:01 PM

No idea

The Cap'm (Reese) 02-Dec-18 02:09 PM

Okay, individual level descriptions are basically done. The only things missing are the names of certain Rahi.

Teylgate 02-Dec-18 02:17 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) we doing it lime a modern manual or an early 2000's one?

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 02-Dec-18 04:39 PM

Early 2000s of course. Mainly based on the Lego Racers 2 manual which would've come out a month earlier

@Teylgate

DarkTahu 03-Dec-18 12:38 PM

I can translate the manual if you want

Teylgate 03-Dec-18 01:04 PM

Who's doing it?

Thi' 03-Dec-18 05:31 PM

I can translate to French if needed

The Cap'm (Reese) 03-Dec-18 08:25 PM

@V A H K I T I Did you give the individual level descriptions a read in the manual? Haven't gotten anyone's perspective on them yet.

omegalucas 05-Dec-18 12:44 PM

I can translate to Portuguese

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Dec-18 12:44 PM

Briliant

omegalucas 05-Dec-18 12:44 PM

European Portuguese, that is

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Dec-18 12:44 PM

Are that and american protuguese that different?

omegalucas 05-Dec-18 12:45 PM

It depends

There are a few phrasing differences

Mainly in verb use (edited)

We use different Tense–aspect–mood

And have a completely opposite approach to the second plural form (the plural "you") (edited)

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Dec-18 12:48 PM

anything with a ~ above it (like ã) can't currently be displayed in-game, neither can ç. Otherwise it should work

Can you work around this problem?

omegalucas 05-Dec-18 12:48 PM

Ah crap. Ç is an important letter

So are the tildes

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Dec-18 12:49 PM

tildes, like á?

or the ones I've shown before?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 12:50 PM

~

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Dec-18 12:50 PM

uh huh

I'm learning spanish and there it's ´

or so I'm told

benji 05-Dec-18 12:56 PM

` is called a grave

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 05-Dec-18 12:56 PM

you're right

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 05:55 PM

I'm thinking of using this as the teaser at the end of the quick launch trailer I'm gonna upload. Everyone like this concept by @rob the corn lover ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484089237994471424/511563878954434560/makuta.png

It might just be for one phase, but I like how it looks personally

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 05:56 PM

It does look really cool.

I'm for it personally

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 05:56 PM

Neat.

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 05:56 PM

IIRC it would be easy to render too.

The spheres could be rendered the same way as skyboxes with multiple rotating/scrolling layers

G-Bond 05-Dec-18 05:57 PM

Hell ya

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 05:57 PM

My canon for this phase is that each sphere is the remnants of the Shadow Toa's energy

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 05:57 PM

And requires a different Toa to break

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 05:57 PM

Ye

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 05:58 PM

I still want to see Mask-Power based Shadow Toa fights, though.

rob the corn lover 05-Dec-18 05:58 PM

yah

benji 05-Dec-18 05:58 PM

how does it attack the player?

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 05:58 PM

Haven't worked that out yet

Perhaps tentacles could spawn from the spheres?

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 05:59 PM

Kinda like Gorea from Metroid Prime Hunters?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 05:59 PM

I think the Shadow Toa might be best as races, but with better maps. Not sure if making 6 additional bosses is the best plan of action

Also I just remembered Gorea. Oof.

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 05:59 PM

Ooh actually I have an idea

Let's go full Binding of Isaac weird on this.

The spheres spawn shadow versions of the elementals connected to them by shadow tentatcles like a really weird and fucked up umbilical cord

Killing the shadow boss breaks the sphere via feedback through the cord (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 06:00 PM

...If you can somehow get that to work, then we can go for it.

G-Bond 05-Dec-18 06:01 PM

You mean Dals stomach tubes?

benji 05-Dec-18 06:01 PM

it's rather bold to tease this when we have no idea how feasible this is to code

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:01 PM

True. I mean the design should be easy enough to render

It's just how it'll WORK that's not et in stone

The design lends itself to various different options

benji 05-Dec-18 06:02 PM

boi, you let me assess how easy it is to render

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:02 PM

I mean I could get the spheres in game right now probably. It's just having them connected to an entity that'll be different

Though if Makuta himself stays in one spot, we may not even have to connect them to him directly

rob the corn lover 05-Dec-18 06:03 PM

each shpear is an elemental weakness, and ability from each previous boss, (red= fire, yellow= stone, green= air, cyan= ice, blue=water, megenta = earth) (edited)

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:04 PM

Question Finto\

Do you have a transparent render of this?

Would appreciate that.

rob the corn lover 05-Dec-18 06:04 PM

yah

i wish

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 06:04 PM

...So how would you do the fire boss for that though.

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:04 PM

Hmm

benji 05-Dec-18 06:05 PM

wait what is this rendered in?

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:05 PM

blender presumably

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 06:05 PM

Would the Arena shift?

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 06:05 PM

Its head pops out, and shoots a continuous flamethrower. Shoot it enough in the mouth and it breaks

benji 05-Dec-18 06:05 PM

are the orbs meant to look 'on fire'?

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:05 PM

Idk if we could do that, but we could just make a combined boss area.

IIRC all the bosses except Taratoka can be modular

Just make a big chamber in a sea of antidermis instead of lava with antidermis waterfalls in the back for the air elemental.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 06:07 PM

And then he transforms into rock boi, and you can kill him in one hit

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:07 PM

boi

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 06:07 PM

I'm now thinking of the Metal Mayhem fight.

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:08 PM

LOL yeah

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 06:08 PM

And the way it switched perspectives

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 06:08 PM

TRY TO REACH INSIDE OF ME

TRY TO DRAIN MY ENERGY

G-Bond 05-Dec-18 06:08 PM

~~But what about Voriki guys.~~

benji 05-Dec-18 06:08 PM

now I want to render a high quality cinematic teaser thing

V A H K I T I 05-Dec-18 06:08 PM

Boi

Do the intro first

xP

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 06:09 PM

And then Tahu gets his gold mask back while Lewa and Onua get a shiny yellow sphere around them (edited)

benji 05-Dec-18 06:09 PM

I want to try fire on the orbs like this

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 06:10 PM

I'm now imagining that you'd see the Toa you haven't used yet fighting thier respective Elemental in the background. And since I doubt that's feasible, I am now sad.

G-Bond 05-Dec-18 06:10 PM

This will be Vorikis Elemental boss.

The Cap'm (Reese) 05-Dec-18 06:10 PM

actually though

Hexadecimal Mantis 05-Dec-18 06:10 PM

noted

G-Bond 05-Dec-18 06:11 PM

Thank

rob the corn lover 05-Dec-18 06:11 PM

a worm of storms

Metroidwave 05-Dec-18 06:11 PM

It's here to avenge Slizers

G-Bond 05-Dec-18 06:11 PM

Nah it came from the Slizers universe

Because of Vezon fucking with shit. (edited)