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The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 09:07 PM

memes

V A H K I T I 21-Feb-20 09:08 PM

:v

The King 21-Feb-20 09:08 PM

my ideas for makutas voice has a home

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 09:08 PM

We already have that :v

sweg (Andrew) 21-Feb-20 09:09 PM

nooo not adolf jonah jameson

The King 21-Feb-20 09:09 PM

hes always had a toothbrush stash

Leena 21-Feb-20 09:28 PM

ideas for Makuta's voice

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 09:29 PM

we've decided on that already i thought

Numbskill 21-Feb-20 09:29 PM

Hold up what’s this chat for?

Leena 21-Feb-20 09:29 PM

My voicepacks

Primarily, at least

Numbskill 21-Feb-20 09:29 PM

Nice

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 09:30 PM

and in the future anything audio related for projects

Numbskill 21-Feb-20 09:31 PM

I hope I could be involved in any future projects

I wanna keep the spirit of Bionicle alive

The King 21-Feb-20 09:48 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) naw me and granpa were still talking

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Feb-20 09:49 PM

i mean cool

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-20 11:38 AM

@Leena Can you send a zip of all your contributed SFX? I think you just sent Hydraxon the other day.

Leena 23-Feb-20 12:11 PM

Gotcha.

Should I also send stuff for Voriki?

Or Krakua, rather?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-20 12:11 PM

Sure

Leena 23-Feb-20 12:12 PM

Gotcha. Gimme like half an hour.

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-20 12:16 PM

Aight

Leena 23-Feb-20 12:36 PM

Attachment: Hydraxon.zip (5.69 MB)

Attachment: Krakua.zip (4.42 MB)

Attachment: Matau.zip (5.29 MB)

Attachment: NobuaV2.zip (2.76 MB)

Attachment: Nokama.zip (1.59 MB)

Attachment: Nuju.zip (2.34 MB)

Attachment: Voriki.zip (4.9 MB)

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-20 12:37 PM

Thank

Leena 23-Feb-20 12:37 PM

Here's an updated version for Voriki, but I still need to split these into individual tracks.

Attachment: VorikiTest2.wav (6.25 MB)

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-20 12:46 PM

Is Vakama not done yet?

Also nice

Leena 23-Feb-20 01:09 PM

He isn't. Haven't touched him for weeks

Should I still use Tim Curry as audio stems?

V A H K I T I 23-Feb-20 01:27 PM

Ye

Leena 23-Feb-20 01:27 PM

Gotcha.

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 05:09 PM

Proposal for part of Makuta's theme. https://open.spotify.com/track/5Wp8gsVph8Bdn6EAWej9rG?si=zSHwow4zRWK3Vaeshoz75Q

Welcome To The Future

Welcome To The Future, a song by Zero One on Spotify

@Grampa Walker thoughts?

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 05:13 PM

Which part, specifically?

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 05:13 PM

Well at least the intro sounds cool. Over And Over has cool parts too

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 05:15 PM

I'm honestly curious with what you'll do to mash, and stitch parts together to make one hell of a theme. What ever you think makes a good leadin, where ever you think parts should be. So long as the song has interesting shifts, and always sounds hectic, and that "everything is on the line" feel to it.

So far, it sounds like the songs that'll be used in his theme are "Hard as Hell", "Welcome to the Future", and "Over and Over" So that already offers an interesting lineup to mash, and stitch together, especially if you have custom samples you want to add here, and there from when you were esperimenting with a custom theme.

Leena 24-Feb-20 05:22 PM

We already have a theme for Makuta.

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Feb-20 05:22 PM

well there's a level theme

a level theme that really doesn't convey a boss fight very well

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:27 PM

Here's one I definitely wanna sample from, if we don't just use it for one phase

Attachment: 12_Savage.mp3 (11.87 MB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Feb-20 07:28 PM

~~Just use the TimeSplitters 2 Credits theme~~

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:32 PM

Btw, the best place to sample from would be his Bandcamp releases if somebody is willing to pay 9 pounds for Zero One. It's not the same version as what on Spotify though so it doesn't include everything.

However apparently his bandcamp uses the original studio masters

The Cap'm (Reese) 24-Feb-20 07:32 PM

neat

~~have you heard the TimeSplitters 2 credits theme tho~~

~~it's way too good to be a credits theme~~

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 07:34 PM

So it doesn't have all the songs on Bandcamp?

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:35 PM

nein

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 07:37 PM

Damn.. by this point I'll need to record the audio from my sound card to Audacity, because you can't even download music from YouTube with ANY software, or website, anymore. Also, I'm not at my computer, but I'll listen to that music sample you put up when I am.

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:37 PM

Just judging by the discography he chooses to list, I don't think he thinks too fondly of his techno work.

99% of what he lists is jazz.

The only full techno album being available at all anymore is Zero One

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 07:38 PM

That's a damn shame, because it's really good stuff. I really wish he'd put up the rest of his music, assuming that means he has more.

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:38 PM

The one I uploaded above is from Extreme Global Hardcore, the same album as Bionicle Age, which was never digitially distributed to begin with

FYI I have that one downloaded if you want to peruse it yourself

Savage is a really good contender for something to use

The more of his stuff I listen to and the more I think about Makuta, the more I'm getting a feel for what the musical progression should be.

It should start off with something bassy and energetic for phase 1, moving onto something a bit more percussion heavy for phase 2, and finally shifting entirely to something dark and chaotic for phase 3. Which Savage fits quite nicely (edited)

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 07:44 PM

I mean, I'll happily take copies of any of his work, and songs like it to keep in my personal collection. Also, I'm eager to hear what you have in mind for the music. You've shown you're fantastic with mixing music together, so Makuta's theme will definitely be a great listen while fighting.

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:45 PM

I'm surprised everyone thinks so cause I'm really not great at it. xP

I am still kinda proud of this old fucker tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MkVg4_sN_4

The Beaverhouse

Metro Fever Zone V2 (Cat Scratch Fever/Sonic 2 Metropolis Zone Fusi...

Updated version... again. Quick recap; inspiration struck when I was out eating a burger. So yeah. :P MP3: http://www.mediafire.com/?cqjqs8pdrs5t1ss

I used to do a lot of these. They were very hit or miss, but I'd often just have an ear for random songs on the radio that sound like other things in my head and I'd go "hey, those could mix well!"

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:47 PM

uh

ytmp3.cc

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:47 PM

:v

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:47 PM

for ripping yt vids

just sayin

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:47 PM

?

For what purpose?

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:47 PM

the software is there

yknow, for downloading audio from youtube videos?

i think it lets u dl the video file too

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:48 PM

I still don't know why I'd want that.

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:48 PM

uh @Grampa Walker

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:48 PM

THat's called crispy compression.

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:48 PM

was talkin bout it gdjsgd

nahnahnah it doesnt compress!!! it sounds perfect

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:48 PM

To an untrained ear sure

It's definitely compressed (edited)

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:48 PM

have you used it

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:48 PM

That's just a fact

Even an MP3 is compressed

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:49 PM

ok

well

???? ok

weird

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 07:49 PM

I think I tried that, and it didn't work, either, but still try it again, though, just to see. Also, nobody is fully satisfied with their own work, but trust me, your music stuff is great from what I've heard up to this point.

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:49 PM

Even if you download the master copy of the original video without any of YouTube's added compression, you're still getting compression from watever format the uploader rendered into.

Well thanks. :v

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:50 PM

ok but like. why bring that up , dgsggjf ,

i was just offering an option

its negligible compression so idk why youd even

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:50 PM

Be...cause it's not really an option as far as I'm concerned?

Nobody in their right mind uses youtube downloads for studio quality mixes (edited)

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:51 PM

that seems

derisive

and presumptive

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:53 PM

Call it whatever you want, but I'm just saying if you tried to sample like that for an actual paid job, you would probably get far more ridicule than I'm even implying.

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:53 PM

then im calling the industry derisive and presumptive

gjdgfb

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:53 PM

Fair. :v

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:53 PM

just because it's the norm doesnt make it good

besides, the compression is like. ive compared Official Downloads and yt rips

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:54 PM

I mean if you're not going to use the highest quality samples at your disposal, you're not really doing your job

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:54 PM

and i have good enough hearing to hear the electricity in my house sometimes so scratch that off

and they sound the same

besides. what if the highest quality sample at your disposal

is a yt rip?

The King 24-Feb-20 07:55 PM

ayy another friend suggesting stuff!

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:55 PM

¯\(ツ)\/¯

The King 24-Feb-20 07:55 PM

nice to see another!

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:55 PM

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:55 PM

I mean that's kind of circumventing the point but sure.

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:56 PM

i guess my point is dont slam yt rips coz theyre useful

gdmfcb

you can prefer not using them but like... don't dump em in the trash, yea?

(pls?)

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:57 PM

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree because as far as I'm concerned, barring them being the ONLY option as you said, they're just the lazy and lossy way to make remixes

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:57 PM

if i had the emoji i wanted to post here i would. imagine a composit of these two

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 07:57 PM

I agree that music should always be the highest quality available, but in the case of this game, compression isn't too bad a thing to a small degree given this is a 2001 game, so it wouldn't be out of place. But I do mostly agree with Vahkiti, even though I know little about music pruction norms.

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 07:58 PM

fair

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:58 PM

YOu know that's a weird point in itself

TECHNICALLY no sound in this game needs to be compressed.

And some of them I don't think even are.

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 07:58 PM

Huh, really?

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:58 PM

Most of the music is mp3 but it supports and often uses wav as well

The King 24-Feb-20 07:59 PM

ay liam did you ever hrar my idea for makuta's voice?

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:59 PM

Though the wavs are mostly reserved for sfx

The King 24-Feb-20 07:59 PM

and if its decided im going to bup

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 07:59 PM

I didn't, but we do already have sentative voices in mind

*tentative

The King 24-Feb-20 08:02 PM

my idea was a deep voice with plenty of distortion to reflect his orderly chaos

like echos, radio buzzing, old static

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 08:05 PM

oh i do like that

The King 24-Feb-20 08:05 PM

and for a roar id imagine less of an animalistic roar

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 08:05 PM

bass boosted

The King 24-Feb-20 08:05 PM

and more like that of a war chant

like a primal chant

🌻 sher1bot! 🌺 24-Feb-20 08:06 PM

oooh

The King 24-Feb-20 08:08 PM

it shows how the makuta is less of an animal and more like an equal to mata nui

V A H K I T I 24-Feb-20 09:47 PM

Okay so

SUPER EARLY DUMB TEST THAT JUST HAS RADOM SHIT MASHED ON TOP OF SAVAGE

You've been warned.

Uploading, Discord is being dum

Attachment: Untitled1.mp3 (22.65 MB)

2

@Grampa Walker

Dunno why this is 9 minutes

May have left some unused shit on the end

Yep, yes I did

The King 24-Feb-20 09:55 PM

you like my refinement o great master liam

Grampa Walker 24-Feb-20 09:56 PM

I'm assuming the part you wanted me to listen to is only 2:30, but so far I'm loving the direction. It really has this unnerving feel for when Makuta is first making himself known to you, only to then form the shadow Rahi to fight you. I'm eeager to hear what the song will shift into when he turns into his brutish titan-esque form between Rahi phases.

ShadowDraikana 25-Feb-20 07:58 PM

nani the fuck went on in here

The Cap'm (Reese) 25-Feb-20 07:58 PM

things

liam did a ton of experimenting

The King 25-Feb-20 07:58 PM

my grand ideas

The Cap'm (Reese) 25-Feb-20 07:58 PM

with sfx sample

to try a final boss theme IIRC

and things escalated from there

The King 25-Feb-20 07:58 PM

and i pitched more about makuta's voice

Grampa Walker 25-Feb-20 09:33 PM

Well, firstly, just experimenting with Makuta's voice wasn't inherently linked to your idea, The King, and in this case it was just pitch-shifting MAtoran voices, while your suggestion was a lot different. Second, Vahkiti, as far as I know, has shown no intent on changing Makuta's voice as we stand. Could that change in the future? Maybe, but that's not the agenda for the moment.

The King 25-Feb-20 09:34 PM

hmm ok

Leena 30-Mar-20 02:26 PM

Attachment: MaskOfCreationSFX.zip (4.6 MB)

Leena 13-Apr-20 04:12 PM

Guess who figured out how to do a thing

Attachment: vocaloid_test.mp3 (226.6 KB)

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Apr-20 04:12 PM

oo

Leena 13-Apr-20 04:12 PM

Sounds like an alternate voice for Kopaka

V A H K I T I 13-Apr-20 04:12 PM

Leena 13-Apr-20 09:12 PM

I can only make vowel sounds with him

Except for stuff like Y and W

~~technically I could make him say uwu~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 13-Apr-20 09:12 PM

well it's still cool

Leena 13-Apr-20 09:12 PM

Yeeyee

I had to

Attachment: uwu.wav (588.27 KB)

Attachment: are_you_working.mp3 (171.5 KB)

Grampa Walker 16-Apr-20 05:10 PM

~~Someone should make a sick techno song with those sound bytes~~

Leena 16-Apr-20 05:11 PM

~~I have tried some proto-vocalize songs with this synth before~~

They’re alright but kinda odd

Leena 18-Apr-20 03:44 PM

Attachment: KopakaMix.wav (901.83 KB)

Tried to see what would happen if I mixed Vocaloid Kopaka's voice with his original one.

Interesting result.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-Apr-20 03:44 PM

sounds pretty good

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 05:55 PM

Gonna move this here since it doesn't necessarily need to be a secret: Recently I've been talking with Dave Madden, the composer for LOMN, and he's generously provided all he has left from his work in uncompressed WAV including a couple of unused tracks, the Makuta FMV audio, and extended versions of the ending FMV theme and the behind the scenes video version of techno snowboard. These will likely be implemented into the game and soundtrack very soon. https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1gwXze8q1BCEZbGy1uPWNzvXjX9RCrx9m&export=download

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 05:56 PM

Okay so the drumans. What do you think would be the best places to use them?

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 05:56 PM

(drum and bass)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 05:56 PM

Yes

I gathered that

sweg (Andrew) 21-Apr-20 05:56 PM

hello fellow drumans

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 05:57 PM

Well drumand2 doesn't really fit as a boss track if it's used in the ending. I want to keep BIONICLE Age for the credits so maybe somewhere in Nobua Mode? (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 05:57 PM

to be fair this game reuses music in different places a lot

Lewa's dance is also the first part of the meetup scene

for one example

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 05:58 PM

tru

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 05:58 PM

not saying no, just mentioning

Druman1 I feel could be our miniboss track or something to that effect

~~MUSICMiniboss.mp3~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:01 PM

:p

I mean it could work as the actual boss too

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:01 PM

well I'm of the mind that the character themes fit well as proper boss music

fighting Mr. Dave Windy is slightly better with Lewa's theme blasting in the background

that track is hype

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:02 PM

Hmm, maybe. We'll see what everyone else thinks I guess

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:02 PM

yeah of course

i just wanna throw my two cents in

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:03 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:03 PM

once we decide i'll do the whole track naming thing

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:16 PM

~~that's only partially unused you fool~~

~~but we do need to use it somewhere regardless~~

Leena 21-Apr-20 06:17 PM

Those drums remind me of a really specific Paul Hardcastle piece

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:17 PM

druman2 sounds like it could be a theme for a particularly action-y area

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:18 PM

Oh wait.

Drumand 1 is the one fuck

aaaa

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:18 PM

YOU FOOL

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:18 PM

REEEE

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:18 PM

~~this is what, the fourth time?~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:18 PM

Delet

DELET

Leena 21-Apr-20 06:18 PM

Crawler, that was it

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:18 PM

~~fifth time's the charm~~

Leena 21-Apr-20 06:18 PM

Attachment: Crawler.mp3 (3.01 MB)

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:19 PM

TAKE 2 on the Strawpoll @Team Litestone: We have an unused track from Dave Madden, (LOMN's Composer) what should we use it for? https://www.strawpoll.me/19835523

Attachment: DRUMAN1.WAV (26.73 MB)

What should DRUMAND1 be used as?

Vote Now! [Miniboss theme] [Elemental boss theme] [Other (Please specify)]

Leena 21-Apr-20 06:20 PM

~~If it's unused then why are we using it in the first place~~

Metroidwave 21-Apr-20 06:20 PM

Tis done. The vote has been cast and I once more submerge beneath notice.

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:20 PM

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:20 PM

~~because rebuilt was built on the foundation of unused content~~

Leena 21-Apr-20 06:21 PM

I thought this was just bug fixing and a bit of extra work

𝓖𝓻𝓾𝓶𝓹𝔂𝓫𝓮𝓪𝓷 (𝓼𝓿𝓮𝓷) 🇳🇱 21-Apr-20 06:21 PM

I'm getting le-wahi vibes off of it..

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:21 PM

Main patch is bugfixing and getting the game as close to as it would have released as possible

The King 21-Apr-20 06:21 PM

definitely sounds like a mini boss theme

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

Are the Shadow Toa trials still something that'll be in the game before you get to Makuta? (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

that's the plan, yes

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

That's the plan

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

This could be for that, then.

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

rising lava segment

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

Rebuilt is combining content from both the final build and the earlier, more...narratively/worldly fleshed out alpha build to make a complete experience

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

vertical cave

filling with lava

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

~~Sonic Heroes~~

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

grapple and platform out before you're fucked

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:22 PM

grapple

~~that's asking for trouble~~

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:23 PM

could check if the player's below lava by just comparing their height against an increasing value for the lava's height

no need for trigger shenanigans

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:24 PM

My vote is on other, I think it could work for the Shadow Toa trials, personally, though we'll see what the verdict turns out to be, I suppose.

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:24 PM

actually I'm not sure if this music would be best for a rising lava area

BUT

still

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:24 PM

not a bad idea for an area

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:24 PM

in case we wanna make lev6 any more hellish

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:24 PM

I mean

We could really subvert expectations

And do rising ACID for Lewa

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:25 PM

hmmm

that could work

fits the music

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:25 PM

~~What is this, a Metroid game?~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:25 PM

:v

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:25 PM

Are there any Rahi known for spitting acid?

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:25 PM

~~No but there are bohrok~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:25 PM

Fikou spit...something, I think

The King 21-Apr-20 06:25 PM

the fire frogs?

Metroidwave 21-Apr-20 06:25 PM

The one-off snake enemy?

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:26 PM

THat could be a fun way to retool that level actually

You have to ascend the levitation thermals to get away from the rising acid

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:26 PM

updrafts, grappling, and platforming to escape rising acid

I love it and already hate it :D

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:26 PM

Maybe tons of the snakes could be on ledges, and peeking out of holes to spit acid into a long, cave causing it to fill up while you have to both make it to the top, and take out the snakes? (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:26 PM

grappling

you do remember that the grapple breaks vertical areas right

and not even in half

it trifurcates them

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:27 PM

I just did the math and in order to fill a cave with snake acid you'd need more than a cave's volume of pure snakes

The King 21-Apr-20 06:27 PM

sounds perfectly sadistic for a sixth level

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:27 PM

jesus christ how horrifying

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:27 PM

boi

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:27 PM

~~but they're robot snakes~~

~~with extra acid capacity~~

The King 21-Apr-20 06:28 PM

~~and lasers~~

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:28 PM

It could be a constant acid flow from all of them, I'd say, and as more come into view, more begin starting their acid flow causing a heck of a spectacle, I'd say.

Like, imagine adding a valve to the snake's back, and when they start spitting the valve continuously spins. I think that is a cool thought.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:29 PM

okay I'm getting confused what is this now with waterfalls of acid flowing from the mouths of snakes

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:29 PM

this sounds like an 80s b-movie

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:29 PM

Yes. Yes it does.

Or a really out there Saw trap :v

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:30 PM

I love it but not in the sense you're probably hoping for tbh lol

The King 21-Apr-20 06:30 PM

sounds like a carnival ride

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:30 PM

~~but those movies are terrible so~~

the snakes, if my knowledge of video game design is right, were to pop out of the wall sockets and bite at you when you passed them

thus their body basically being the Kane-Ra's neck

The King 21-Apr-20 06:30 PM

ooooh

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:30 PM

Wait, so they aren't unique builds, just re-tooled Kane-Ra?

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:30 PM

I think an actual waterfall would be the most practical on all accounts

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:31 PM

not of course that they could, given that they have two animation skeletons but no animations that go with them

--- Back on the topic of the actual music

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:33 PM

Well, if the snake isn't that usable, would it just be boulders collapsing from the top of the level, and you basically have to hop up ledges while avoiding additional waterfalls of acid opening up along the way?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:33 PM

~~that's not the music~~

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:33 PM

I thought we were talking about what the music could be used for.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:33 PM

yes

We've established the "rising liquid hazard" part, and I believe we can continue that conversation because I'm getting sold on it

The King 21-Apr-20 06:34 PM

maybe you could make it like a timed level like Green Forest in Sonic Adventure 2

gotta get out in 5 minutes or your gonna melt

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:34 PM

but I don't think we should use the theme in just one area

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:34 PM

Timed levels are nine times out of ten awful, so I vote no on that. (edited)

Aurora 21-Apr-20 06:34 PM

Blblblbl

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:34 PM

no other theme in the game is only used once afaik

On your Shadow Toa idea, I feel the Shadow Toa would have a more...menacing theme? I don't know. I feel this doesn't have the gravitas of a Shadow Toa theme.

The King 21-Apr-20 06:35 PM

i mean this is suppost to be the 6th level. a little Japanese Sadism is always welcome

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:35 PM

Yeah, I listened to the whole song, and I agree it's more jungle-oriented. I expected it to pick up more, but it never quite did.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:36 PM

I agree it's in the same style as lewa's other tracks

but he also already has 3 unique pieces to his level

his normal ambience, theme, and the drum and bass track (the used one, called LEWASURF in the files Mr. Madden sent)

The King 21-Apr-20 06:37 PM

i think the mini boss idea is better

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:37 PM

I really don't think he needs a fourth

If we use this as a normal area theme I more think we use it in more levels than just lev5, y'know?

~~am i talking too much I'm sorry~~

~~i feel like i'm being an asshole right now~~

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:39 PM

shame the village music doesn't seem to be in here

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:39 PM

So we have a rising acid idea for Lewa. I guess that means we find a practical use for in in the other five Toa areas, then? It admittedly would be fitting for a Tahu surf segment, but people are already pretty attached to the badass theme that plays when he surfs, so replacing that wouldn't go over well. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:39 PM

or the shrine theme

I'm personally still in the camp of it being the miniboss theme

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:40 PM

What all minibosses do we have in the game?

The King 21-Apr-20 06:40 PM

fiouka nui

nui jaga

tarakava?

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:40 PM

how about TECHNO2

The King 21-Apr-20 06:41 PM

the skark rahi

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:41 PM

Fikou-Nui, Nui Jaga, Tarakava, Kane-Ra (kind of), Nui-Rama (kind of)

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:41 PM

afaik it was only used in the behind the scenes video?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:41 PM

ye

I know we had the idea to add a Muaka

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 06:41 PM

and the behind the scenes music isn't 100% the same

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:41 PM

and making a proper Nui-Rama fight in lev6

so that's 7ish if all goes to plan

there's also the tarakava in lev5 thinking on it

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:42 PM

I'm totally down to break up some of the technosnowboard uses to use this variant (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:43 PM

isn't technosnowboard only used like three times aside from the boss theme mixup

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:43 PM

I think it's techno snowboard. I' probably mixing up names again (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:43 PM

it's used in ROLL and GL3S

which is our doing

I think there are some vanilla areas as well that use it

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:44 PM

Kopaka's board areas don't, do they?

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:45 PM

Hm.. The island itself is just generally tribal, anyhow, so the drums as a miniboss theme work, and let you know it's time for a miniboss. Also, the variant for ROLL isn't what I was thinking when I said we could replace some of the surfing music, but still, I think that might not go over well with how many people are attached to the song there, now.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:45 PM

i think they all use surfandsnowboard

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:47 PM

Also we should defnitely make use of these mixes in game btw

Higher quality aside, most of them have proper endings that fade out unlike the OG game tracks that just kinda cut off most of the time

It'll definitely bloat out the game to use them in wav, but we can definitely make higher bitrate mp3s

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:48 PM

I feel like the best way to guage things like musical swaps is to show the public that'll play the game options, and let them vote on it rather than just the staff working on it. We'd need to include video of the segment being played with all music choices we are considering for an area.

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:49 PM

That seems a little extensive to me, but I'm not entirely opposed to it I guess.

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:50 PM

I just want us to be careful, if we make a decision that the majority dislike without asking for their input that can lead to problems.

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:51 PM

I mean Idk where you're getting this idea that people are attached to certain music in certain places. I've never heard anyone outside the team even mention the sound design.

Grampa Walker 21-Apr-20 06:53 PM

It isn't outwardly mentioned, no, but just changing a song people associate to an area that's been one way for a while can cause some backlash. Maybe I'm overthinking, that's possible, butpeople do notice little changes like that, and if the majority dislike that, we'll just annoy them, and have to revert the change, later. I'm not opposed to getting experimental, and tossing music around to see what fits where, but what people outside of development feel about what fits is also something to consider.

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:54 PM

honestly I'm the most pedantic about it

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:55 PM

drumand2 also isn't really off the table. It'll just be hard to find a use for it that doesn't clash with its usage in the ending fmv

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:56 PM

~~well I don't care about that part~~

~~and I'm the most important~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 06:57 PM

b o i

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 06:58 PM

~~all hail me~~

The King 21-Apr-20 07:11 PM

no me

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 07:14 PM

@V A H K I T I btw

would he have any idea what that metadata is about?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 07:16 PM

acidplanet I looked up and was a music making thing

https://www.magix.info/us/forum/shutting-down-acidplanet-com--1206014/

Shutting down Acidplanet.com

Dear ACID users, Time to say goodbye and hello! We will be shutting down acidplanet.com on May 25th because we want to bring you into the worldwide A...

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 07:17 PM

yeah I remember that

I just wonder why it's in this metadata

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 07:21 PM

Also I'm for using druman2 mostly because you only hear the last minute or so in-game

and the first bits help it work more as a theme to be used elsewhere

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 07:21 PM

true

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 07:25 PM

Added the acid climb to the GLY15 card ftr

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 08:57 PM

I'm going to start converting these new tracks into game compatible format

Probably gonna go with 320kbps MP3

Current tracks are 128kbps

So it's a good bump up

The soundtrack can offer the original uncompressed versions where possible

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 08:59 PM

they're gonna need proper filenames; MUSICLegoDrumAndBase1 and 2, maybe

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 08:59 PM

This is still gonna bump up the size of Rebuilt still further, but that's the price we pay for quality (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 08:59 PM

wuality

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 08:59 PM

FIght me

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 08:59 PM

I shall now coin the phrase that this game has the Litestone Seel ov Wuality

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:00 PM

I will end you

xD

sweg (Andrew) 21-Apr-20 09:00 PM

~~can we officially rename tree boi to g-matoran~~

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:00 PM

~~no.~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:06 PM

Btw @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Feel free to take that new cutscene audio for the kaita scene.

The ending may be more difficult. What we'll have to do is basically redo the SF.

We can easily splice in most of the voices from existing clips, but the cheering and other sfx may be harder to pull off (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:07 PM

*SFX

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:07 PM

If we can't manage that, there is a version of the audio in the actual sounds folder

It's probably still higher quality than the actual FMV audio

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:55 PM

Tracks are renamed, converting to mp3 now

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:55 PM

nice

~~did you take my suggestions~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:55 PM

?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:55 PM

what'd you name em

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:55 PM

I'm not adding the new ones just yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:55 PM

oh

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:55 PM

You had ideas for names for them?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:56 PM

you just said you renamed them

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:56 PM

I renamed the existing tracks for the ones to be replaced

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:56 PM

oh

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:57 PM

Some of these are DEFINITELY noticeably higher quality even at 320kbps

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:58 PM

well filenames I just was thinking MUSICLEGODrumAndBassPart1 and MUSICLEGODrumAndBassPart2 to go by the same logic of the Underground tracks

at least until we give them better purpose

soundtrack names I obviously don't know yet

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:59 PM

It's bumped up the sound folder's size up about 100mb

:p

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:59 PM

lovleh

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 09:59 PM

Sounds good

WHat about the early techno snowboard

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 09:59 PM

Well if we want to use it to vary the surfing soundtrack a bit

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:00 PM

MUSICLEGOTechnoSnowboardPart2?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:00 PM

yeah that

I can change up the soundtrack names for the surfing tunes now that we have this

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:01 PM

Aight

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:02 PM

i've now realized that I totally could've named one of Lewa's tracks Falling With Style and I feel like I've failed

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:04 PM

:p

It's not too late

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:04 PM

that's fair

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:04 PM

Committing the music changes now btw

Probs gonna take a bit

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:04 PM

yeet

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:05 PM

I also took your suggestion and replaced Onua's takara theme

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:05 PM

o dam nice

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:05 PM

We'll keep both in the soundtrack tho

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:05 PM

~~gonna take some getting used to~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:05 PM

Ye

HOPEFULLY I replaced the right ones in some tracks, you may have to test

Cause some tracks have duplicates, and I'm not sure if they're ever used

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:06 PM

ah

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:06 PM

Techno Snowboard and Onua's theme come to mind (edited)

Techno Snowboard is duplicated for instance as MUSICLEGOCinematicambience

Pushed btw

For the OST I'm gonna convert these to FLAC since IIRC wavs can't have ID3 tags

If you can find a proper release of Zero One I'll also throw Hard As Hell in there

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:10 PM

of what

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:10 PM

Zero One?

The album that and Obey The Force came off of? :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:11 PM

~~the final boss of Kirby's Dreamland 3?~~

We're putting Bionicle Age, Obey The Force, and Hard As Hell on the soundtrack, yes?

I want to get this list as accurate as possible

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:14 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:14 PM

k

we used all of these in trailers, right?

/dev updates

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:15 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:15 PM

k

benji 21-Apr-20 10:18 PM

@V A H K I T I think again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV#Metadata

WAV

Waveform Audio File Format (WAVE, or WAV due to its filename extension; pronounced "wave" or WAV) is an audio file format standard, developed by Microsoft and IBM, for storing an audio bitstream on PCs. It is an application of the Resource Interchange File Format (RIFF) bitst...

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:19 PM

Oh? Hmm.. well from what I gather most people seem to prefer flac anyways and it's uncompressed as well.

That reminds me for some reaason, don't let me forget after I'm done this to make an issue for you for that vertex thing

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:25 PM

repost https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kfi4FNU_wf4kuMMskuh5B9yxjz2J5mV1g4JaCwtc5H4/edit?usp=sharing

BIONICLE: The Legend of Mata Nui - Soundtrack List

DISK ONE: The Legend 01 - The Toa Will Return - Opening 02 - Echoes - Onua Ambience 03 - Rock Grinder - Theme of Onua 04 - Testing The Waters - Gali Ambience 05 - Swimming Against The Riptide - Theme of Gali 06 - Running Through The Wasteland - Pohatu Ambience 07 - Kicking It...

I've not reserved spaces for the druman tracks yet

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:26 PM

Ah I see why flac is preferred now

It's a method of compression that UNcompresses on the fly, meaning the original raw audio data is not lost at all

So it's compressed but still lossless

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:27 PM

~~so the FLAC doesn't give you any flack~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:27 PM

:v

Anyways yeah, definitely sticking to this

Also you need to reserve space for the alternate Onua takara

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:28 PM

I did

Look at the second page

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:28 PM

And I've currently got the second drumand replacing the ending

So we just need to account for drumand1 and Onua's takara unless we want to rename drumand2 and between the scenes

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:28 PM

did

did you not read the second page

and between the scenes I already redid

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:29 PM

I hadn't looked yet

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:29 PM

:v

~~don't tell me to add things if you've not read the whole thing~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:29 PM

Also this now accounts for 26 of the 37 tracks uncompressed

And we can probably replicate some of the others like the jingles from some of these

Currently everything from track 2 to 19 is covered, 22, 23, 24, 27, 28, and 29

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:30 PM

nice

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:31 PM

All we're really missing are the intro, some of the Takaras, and the village/shrine themes + jingles

The main beef of the soundtrack is otherwise present

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:32 PM

Do you see now that I put the other Takara on the list

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:33 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:34 PM

gud :v

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:34 PM

Updating my files now

Gonna keep drumand2 as if you wake one for now

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:35 PM

aight

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:35 PM

Unless you come up with a more generalized name

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:35 PM

can't really do that until we have a purpose for it

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:36 PM

Greatest Takara should probably be labeled Pre-alpha mix btw. I'm keeping the one that was used as the main one in the OST

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:36 PM

~~WAKE UP~~ ~~wake up~~ ~~GRAB A BRUSH AND PUT A LITTLE MAKEUP~~

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:36 PM

The OST should generally reflect Main's usage of sounds

And main by extent also includes alpha

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:37 PM

done

yknow the sort of...breathing noise in DRUMAN2 makes me think we should use it as a lev7 track

that level does only have one piece of official music

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 10:41 PM

gonna have the original WAVs up for download somewhere too? or at least preserved somewhere in the BMP file tree?

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:43 PM

Ye

Btw I don't think it's a coincidence that the Gali, Kopaka, and Lewa takara themes are missing, and those just happen to be the only 3 not completed in our alpha

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:44 PM

yeah

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:44 PM

This pack came from about a month before the alpha, so I'd say they were just working on it at that point in time

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:44 PM

ah

I've temporarily named DRUMAN2 "Encroaching Shadow"

because

track 29 on the list

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:52 PM

sure

what about drumand1

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:54 PM

well we had a poll for that and we didn't decide shit

so

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:54 PM

I mean I'm still partial to it being a boss theme cause I feel like they should have something unique

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:54 PM

I still say miniboss

Because tbh the character themes are still infinitely more badass and hype than druman1

UTTER_BODGE 21-Apr-20 10:55 PM

agreed

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:56 PM

Hmm.. well the poll so far seems to be tied on boss vs miniboss

I guess we'll just go with miniboss then

Save us all time

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:56 PM

k

put it in as MUSICMiniboss I guess

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:58 PM

And where do we put it in the soundtrack?

The Cap'm (Reese) 21-Apr-20 10:58 PM

gimme a sec

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 10:58 PM

Just above sink into darkness seems good to me

Also renaming Bionicle age to REBUILT credits theme

Since we didn't have a name for it back when we released this

Gonna try and track down a FLAC release of extreme global hardcore and zero one now as well. You're welcome to help. :p

Also going to resource some of the existing MP3s from the game itself since there's some shenanigans going on with the compression

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 11:16 PM

Oh I see the reason for the file size change

It's just the ID3 tags and added album art

Ah well, redone anyways just to be safe

V A H K I T I 21-Apr-20 11:27 PM

Bought the remastered version of Obey the Force off Hardcastle's bandcamp

Attachment: Paul_Hardcastle_-_Obey_The_Force.flac (32.48 MB)

Leena 21-Apr-20 11:28 PM

Nice

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:04 AM

@V A H K I T I what's happening?

Cutscene audio?

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:05 AM

David Madden sent us uncompressed versions of about 75% of his compositions

1

Of which this is one:

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:05 AM

Oh shit!!!

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:05 AM

Attachment: bionicle_lego_dave_madden_final_scene.wav (38.4 MB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:06 AM

So I'd just need to remux it or do I need to adjust for sync

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:06 AM

Should just need to be remuxed hopefully

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:06 AM

So ez

That's fucking great

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:06 AM

This one will need more work

Attachment: DRUMAN2.WAV (41.21 MB)

Let's see if you can recognize it. Took me a bit but you'll have a big holy shit moment about midway through

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:07 AM

I'm still not all to familiar with LOMN but I'll try to give it a guess

I will say hearing his percussion without any compression is marvelous

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:08 AM

ye

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:09 AM

I'm a minute and half in and not recognizing just yet

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:09 AM

Keep goin. :p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:10 AM

It changed around 215 and its familiar but I can't tell quite yet

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:10 AM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:11 AM

Finished it

Sorry

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:11 AM

Y E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6vjN9NfsyE

BricksOfSteel

Legend of Mata Nui: Celebration

Ending of the unreleased Bionicle game.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:12 AM

Ohh that's why I don't recognize it

I've seen that a handful of times growing up and a little more recently obvi but didn't pay much attention to the music

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:12 AM

f

Point is if we want to remaster this one it's gonna take some work

The voices can be sourced, but not much else can

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:13 AM

Yuh we'd need to find those sound effects or really good sound alikes

I'd be willing to go the sound a like route.

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:14 AM

If you wat to remaster the behind the scenes video too :p

We also have this

Attachment: TECHNO2.WAV (34.53 MB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:15 AM

I probably wouldn't be able to do that because of the VO in the video, unless that's floating around but I doubt the raw files for that video are

(edited)

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:15 AM

True

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:16 AM

So did he just had 80% these laying around in a folder

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:16 AM

Pretty much

Here's an entirely unused one

Attachment: DRUMAN1.WAV (26.73 MB)

Still trying to figure out what to use it for, but we've tentatively settled on minibosses

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:17 AM

I like that I feel like it fits

Anything else notable from this drop?

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:19 AM

Other than proper fade out endings to all the tracks, just this alternate version of Onua's Takara with a higher pitched rap

Attachment: LEGOCI2.WAV (6.5 MB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:20 AM

Should I update the box text to say the names of the discs for the soundtrack. They currently say Soundtrack 1 Soundtrack 2

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:21 AM

If ya like

@The Cap'm (Reese) Figured out a name fr druman1 yet? :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 12:23 AM

Well I've been distracted by friend stuff but what I slapped down on the doc was "In My Way - Miniboss Theme" as a starting point

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:24 AM

Nice

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:35 AM

If it doesn't bother the group at large I'll keep it. I'll throw the kaita track into the fmv and see if it syncs properly

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:35 AM

yeet

This is the one I noticed the quality change most on btw

Original:

Attachment: MUSIConuaTHEMEMUSIC.mp3 (2.27 MB)

Uncompressed:

Attachment: ONUATH1.WAV (25.6 MB)

The Shadow Emperor 22-Apr-20 12:40 AM

the best theme in the game got even better

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:41 AM

Holy shit

That's one I'm familiar with having played that fucking level over and over

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:41 AM

I've already added all 24 of these into Rebuilt btw

320kbps mp3

As opposed to the og 128kbps (edited)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:42 AM

What's the bit level? 16?

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:44 AM

Bit level? I'm not sure what that is tbh. xP

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:44 AM

16bit, 24bit? Might not be using the right terminology

Bit depth whoops

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:45 AM

Mediainfo doesn't tell me that.

New vs old:

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 22-Apr-20 12:46 AM

Audacity would say but I am pretty confident it'll be 16 bit

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 12:47 AM

They're both 32bit according to audacity

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 01:13 AM

btw I did rename lewa ambience part 1 to Falling With Style if you didn't notice

Grampa Walker 22-Apr-20 04:16 AM

Wait, we have uncompressed versions of all the songs in the game, and then some??? I just now noticed after scrolling up a bit, is there a download for them all?

UTTER_BODGE 22-Apr-20 04:17 AM

not all the songs in the game but most

and yes it's the first thing posted in the discussion

Grampa Walker 22-Apr-20 05:38 AM

Holy... I.. So.. There was audio made.. For the final cutscene in the game??? Does.. Does this mean there was a plan, and maybe even a maybe, maybe not lost animated cutscene for the end of the game, or at the least a referenced set of what was going to happen?? I mean, I want to think that if they made the audio for it, then the animation was done to more easily make said audio.

UTTER_BODGE 22-Apr-20 05:43 AM

... wha?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAbBJcJCNRM

MarkOfMoD

BIONICLE Toa Kaita/Manas Fight

This is the Toa Kaita/Manas fight cinematic from the unreleased video game "BIONICLE: Legend of Mata Nui". This video is provided for nonprofit research (history of BIONICLE) purposes. The video is a small fraction of a never-to-be-released video game from October of 2001 as ...

we've had the cutscene that audio's for

for uh

a bit over a decade

it's in the game

Grampa Walker 22-Apr-20 05:47 AM

Ooooh. For some reason I had it in my head the audio was for the Toa fighting Makuta. Alright, don't mind me, I'm just the living embodiment of a quarter of a brain cell. (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 10:35 AM

Liam did you push the new Onua dance audio

I'm not seeing it in the commit

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 02:14 PM

Pretty sure I did

Apparently not

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 02:15 PM

oof

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 02:17 PM

Done

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 02:17 PM

yeet

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 02:39 PM

Test https://youtu.be/btIU-cAEAzM

Reese Bagshaw

TLoMNR Miniboss Theme Test

Zippity zoppity, give me the boppity.

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 02:40 PM

Ooh I like that

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 02:45 PM

I'll add it to the other miniboss areas then

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 02:52 PM

@🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) Any luck with the thing?

Also finding out the alpha's intro + some of the trailers had much higher quality audio than the beta default

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:04 PM

pushed

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:26 PM

once my classes are over today i'm gonna try putting drumandbasspart2 in lev7 and see how it feels

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:28 PM

nice

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:54 PM

Huh

So here I'm just now noticing Saffire abridged an entire section of the intro between alpha and beta

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:55 PM

?

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:55 PM

The part where the canister pops out of the water after landing was entirely cut

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:55 PM

oh

interesting

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:55 PM

More work for @🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man)

But yea I'm just working on the new intro audio now. Splicing together clips from high quality sources and making sure it syncs up for him

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:56 PM

Y'know what we could do

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:56 PM

Buuuut considering the work already needed for the scene I guess it doesn't matter too much

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:57 PM

The alpha FMV ends with the "Coming soon" shit since it's just the recycled trailer

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:57 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:57 PM

but you do hear the end of the track due to that

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:57 PM

I mean yes, the plan is to use that audio, but it's nowhere near as simple as just taking the alpha FMV and slapping it into the beta or cutting that part out

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:58 PM

what if we replace that with the game logo

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:58 PM

THat could be cool

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:58 PM

just have the rebuilt logo centered on the screen that fades in as the music's end swells up

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 03:58 PM

But yeah, I've been over this with Fraug before but despite the differences in quality, the two FMVs have drastically improved visuals

So I begrudge even splicing in clips from the alpha one as a result (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 03:59 PM

well how different is the "capsule popping up" bit in terms of quality

*canister

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:00 PM

I mean...

It kinda looks like Onua's boutta guest star in Reboot tbh.

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:02 PM

strange that the rest of the alpha FMV doesn't look like that

the water looks better once it gets to the canister's lights turning on

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:03 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:03 PM

odd

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:03 PM

I'll se if I can splice something together myself here

Maybe take some of the wor off Fraug

*work

So looking at this side by side a lot of it is identical

It's funny too because they updated the VFX for the part where they swapped out the bird

You can tell looking at the rock in the background

But the moment the bird goes away, it just reverts back to the alpha scene

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:08 PM

just with letterboxing :v

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:09 PM

They literally rerendered that one single part, and the effects on the canister falling

Then left everything else as is

The only thing that bugs me a lot in this is that the framerate of the beta FMV is much higher

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:09 PM

and then didn't improve the Crimson Binome canister part

that's the consistency i've come to expect from

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:13 PM

I'm gonna wait until I hear back from David before I work further on this cause he DID say before that he had some cut movies as well

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:13 PM

ah

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:14 PM

At the very least the audio will sync up to the alpha version

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:14 PM

yea

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:19 PM

This should be much better

Attachment: 01_-_The_Toa_Will_Return_-_Opening.flac (12.31 MB)

Let me know if you hear any errors in it

It's spliced from 3 different sources: The clipped alpha opening, (BionicleFMV2) the Toa CD trailer, and the full alpha opening. (BionicleFMV3)

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:22 PM

Gotta take recycling out; gimme a minute

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:48 PM

listening now

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:48 PM

Minute is well past and done

:v

Also

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:49 PM

shit happens fuckboi

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:49 PM

Museum of Idiots. Is that remix you wrote down a thing that actually exists, or somethin you expect us to make for the game?

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:50 PM

The latter. We talked about this before, no?

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:50 PM

I don't recall

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:50 PM

audio sounds fine btw

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:50 PM

nice

Anyways remind me again about this?

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:51 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmI56f9aoc

They Might Be Giants - Topic

Museum of Idiots

Provided to YouTube by The Orchard Enterprises Museum of Idiots · They Might Be Giants The Spine ℗ 2004 Idlewild Recordings ℗ 2013 Idlewild Recordings Released on: 2004-07-13 Auto-generated by YouTube.

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:51 PM

THat.. says nothing about a remix?

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:52 PM

Well I assumed we'd be doing so, I guess. I didn't think we'd just put the actual song in there

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:52 PM

I mean Idk who you expect to make it unless somebody on @Audio Engineer wants to take up the task using the synths Mr. madden pointed us to

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:53 PM

I can remove that then. Apologies.

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:53 PM

I mean I'm not opposed to the idea. I just again don't know who you expected to do it. :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 04:54 PM

Neither do I. I suppose I thought it was just something we'd be doing later on since we have 2 or 3 sound people here

mix thing removed

~~well that's egg on my face~~

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 04:55 PM

:v

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:07 PM

y'know

maybe DrumAndBassPart2 could be our Kaita theme

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:07 PM

no u

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:08 PM

I think it would work OK as a combat theme for them

Once, of course, they can do any sort of combat

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:08 PM

Hmm maybe

Also @Geo wants to do music too, so that'll be neat. Welcome him to the team

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:09 PM

greetings

I'd do another video like I did for the miniboss theme, but since there's not much to show aside from Akamai standing in an empty room

Geo 22-Apr-20 11:10 PM

heyy

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:10 PM

hi

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:10 PM

So Reese, if you want, bring Geo up to speed on what we currently need, and send him the OST link for what we presently have.

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:11 PM

~~i don't want~~

full soundtrack or the new stuff from madden ~~football '04~~

Well the new stuff we just got is uncompressed versions of a good portion of the game's soundtrack https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1gwXze8q1BCEZbGy1uPWNzvXjX9RCrx9m&export=download

along with two tracks previously only in FMVs, an alternate cutscene track, and one totally new one

In terms of what we need, AFAIK it's two new tracks for the extra game mode we're making (Nobua Mode) though @V A H K I T I can fact check me on that

speaking of is there a download link on BMP for LoMN's soundtrack alone or is it just lumped in with all the game soundtracks in a zip

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:20 PM

I don't recall

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:20 PM

Pretty sure no

Geo 22-Apr-20 11:21 PM

cool, I should be able to make some tracks like these songs.

are you doing music too Reese?

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:22 PM

No

I write and do creative work (and playtest)

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:22 PM

Ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:24 PM

The two nobua tracks were all we needed right

or is there another I'm forgetting

or are there more than two

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:25 PM

Boss tracks, makuta tracks, tahu ambience... :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:25 PM

oh yeah Tahu ambience

~~bitch what did I tell you about the boss fights~~

Okay I'll make a proper list then

we gonna have 3 makuta fight themes? (edited)

one for each phase?

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:27 PM

ye

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:27 PM

k

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:31 PM

So here's me compiling a list of synths used in LOMN. The one Dave forgot about was just recognized by Geo, so that helps.

Roland JV-1080 or 2080 + Expansion Cards Native Instruments Reaktor (Unknown ver.) Sytrus' Acid Arp (Currently part of FLStudio)

@Audio Engineer Pinning for future reference. Will update if/when I find software versions of these.

Pinned a message.

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:32 PM

okay real talk time, boss theme. Do we really want one unified boss theme?

V A H K I T I 22-Apr-20 11:32 PM

I mean, probably time for another poll tbh

The Cap'm (Reese) 22-Apr-20 11:33 PM

~~toa theme gang rise up~~

~~#lewathemeformrwindy~~

well aside from that I currently have this

Tahu Ambience Shadow Toa Fight Theme Makuta Boss Theme (Phase 1) Makuta Boss Theme (Phase 2) Makuta Boss Theme (Phase 3) Nobua Ambience Nobua Theme Nobua Completion Jingle

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:31 AM

So far we know Makuta's themes are going to primarily be a creative mashup of Paul Hardcastle's music, so the ide for that is mostly met, it just needs execution. Do we have any sound bytes used in the game's sound track to make our own music? Such as drums, or such? Individual sounds, and instruments, or something close to thise sounds in the game?

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 01:32 AM

wait that's a thing?

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:35 AM

What's a thing?

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 01:35 AM

using the hardcastle music as makuta music

is that a thing?

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:41 AM

I mean, yeah, Vahkiti did an experiment with it before. He has a supply of some pretty good music we can use, and slap together to make a good boss fight tune. I'm also not sure if it was agreed upon, but I'm in the boat of Obey the Force being the end credits theme.

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 01:41 AM

first I'll throw a sick @V A H K I T I in for some clarification, then I'll say that I thought Bionicle Age was the credits theme

then again it's way too short for the credits

so in theory we can combine them

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:44 AM

BIONICLE Age is a neat song, but how many lyrics it has in it always threw me off the idea of it. Obey the Force has less lyrics, and they'd only start up near the end of the whole song. Still, it's an option. How long are the credits, or can we not say for certain because the credits aren't done yet?

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 01:44 AM

Bionicle age loops like two or three times

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:47 AM

Hm. The two songs back to back could fill that time, then. I'd think Obey the Force fits as an ending, and a beginning for the credits well, but BIONICLE Age, in my personal opinion, only works as a beginning, but it would be a pretty strong beginning. Then after it ends, the more steady rhythms of Obey the Force would lead us through the rest of the credits.

The Shadow Emperor 23-Apr-20 01:50 AM

Both of the "lost" Hardcastle songs are great but neither is appropriate for a Makuta fight imo

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 01:50 AM

yeah

credits though yes

I'm for combining the two for credits purposes

The Shadow Emperor 23-Apr-20 01:50 AM

I might feel differently if there weren't lyrics

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:51 AM

Which songs are you thinking of for the "lost" songs? Just to clarify before I make assumptions.

The Shadow Emperor 23-Apr-20 01:51 AM

Bionicle Age and Obey the Force

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:51 AM

Oh, those were never the ones to be used in Makuta's themes.

The Shadow Emperor 23-Apr-20 01:52 AM

The Bionicle Music would be fine

can't remember what the other two sound like

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:53 AM

It was a zip file of songs Vahkiti directed me to, it has a fair few songs in it that could work in being mashed up into a Makuta theme. I was even considering trying to mach them into my own Makuta theme to see if Vahkiti likes the result, even though he's better with the audio stuff than I am.

The Shadow Emperor 23-Apr-20 01:54 AM

I'd still want to see LoMN's Makuta theme for at least one of the phases

V A H K I T I 23-Apr-20 01:55 AM

Attachment: 18_Crawler_Spooky_Underscore_Mix.mp3 (9.7 MB)

Attachment: 01_Massive.mp3 (12.4 MB)

Attachment: 12_Savage.mp3 (11.87 MB)

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 01:56 AM

I feel like it could be used in one of the phases, albeit not by itself. I personally feel Makuta's included theme feels more like a level leadup than a them for a fight, if that makes sense.

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 01:56 AM

i tend to agree

the makuta theme is good for the level

V A H K I T I 23-Apr-20 02:01 AM

Thoughts on the 3 posted above?

I was thinking parts of or a remix of Savage for the hollow chest phase

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 02:02 AM

Those are good, but I feel only using those three wastes the few others that have some potential in being used, as well.

V A H K I T I 23-Apr-20 02:03 AM

Such as?

Grampa Walker 23-Apr-20 02:05 AM

Like, Mechanism I see being very useful for the more ominous, yet laid back phases, it could be useful for some of the background, and complimentary tunes for such phases. Hell, it could be a recurring tune playing behind most of the songs, including Makuta's thrashing mech-like phase. Perhaps I'm overstating that one song, but it's more meant to convey there's quite a few with great potential for it. A mashup is meant to mash multiple songs into one, so definitely don't let good assets go to waste.

V A H K I T I 23-Apr-20 02:25 AM

True

Oh another one worth discussing

@Geo How would you feel about doing a remix of Museum of Idiots in the style of the existing music? :p

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 02:25 AM

~~might want to post the song~~

V A H K I T I 23-Apr-20 02:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmI56f9aoc

They Might Be Giants - Topic

Museum of Idiots

Provided to YouTube by The Orchard Enterprises Museum of Idiots · They Might Be Giants The Spine ℗ 2004 Idlewild Recordings ℗ 2013 Idlewild Recordings Released on: 2004-07-13 Auto-generated by YouTube.

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Apr-20 02:26 AM

The video is unavailable

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 02:26 AM

fine for me

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 23-Apr-20 02:27 AM

time for me to fire up a downloader

Geo 23-Apr-20 02:46 PM

@V A H K I T I There were a couple genres in the zip folder you sent me, looking for a techno-y version? I can try it. Is the song structure/lyrics important to preserve?

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 02:46 PM

lyrics no

It has to recognizably be the song, but the lyrics aren't important. Techno-y would work

Geo 23-Apr-20 02:48 PM

@The Cap'm (Reese) okay cool, let me see what I can come up with

The Cap'm (Reese) 23-Apr-20 02:48 PM

V A H K I T I 23-Apr-20 03:08 PM

❤️

The King 23-Apr-20 03:09 PM

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 26-Apr-20 03:00 AM

@V A H K I T I sorry in the process of moving my computer downstairs

@V A H K I T I I noticed that piece in the intro while working on the upscale. Which, btw, I want to redo because of some development in the upscaling world

And also I was kinda sloppy but it was for a test after all.

So the question is do you want me to put that back in? Is that what you were meaning. It will sync it to the alpha audio and I think it's cool. However iirc it's in 240p. There's a mix between 480 and 240 in different scenes in both the alpha and beta intros. So I might not be able to but I'll definitely test it

V A H K I T I 26-Apr-20 03:11 AM

Ye may as well

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 26-Apr-20 02:39 PM

You got it. I'm getting everything moved tonight so I'll jump on it

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 06:23 PM

All moved!

Ill be workin on stuff tonight

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:00 PM

fuck no ones online

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-Apr-20 08:00 PM

Hi

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:00 PM

is the higher res audio from the alpha fmv

iirc??

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-Apr-20 08:01 PM

I think so? I believe it's a combo of the Nestle trailer and the two different versions of the alpha fmv (edited)

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:01 PM

ye that

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:01 PM

you fooled me i thought you were offline

swindled infact

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:01 PM

I was

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:01 PM

okay where can I find the nestle trailer

im gonna hodgepodge it together for sync and then fix what I can

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:02 PM

no no, my audio will be fine

I did it in Vegas with the clips to make sure it syncs for you

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:02 PM

oooh you already got it

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:03 PM

Gimmie a moment. My nitro expired so I can't upload it here

https://yec-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/personal/sean_scott_torontofilmschool_ca/EQVf2tW0HdZMoAhtjDeW69cBbxWNCxj0D3t62dOuNAd56Q?e=5YpX9Q

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:05 PM

cool. Ill need the original sources to do this too so I could upscale the footage and you could snip it together or I could take yours and snip it together myself whatever you prefer

need the original source for upscale

**

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:06 PM

Well I don't think the footage itself is anything worth looking at.

IIRC it's just 240p and the framerate is no different

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:07 PM

the whole thing??

for the nestle you mean

so theyre the same as the snips from the alpha trailer then

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:08 PM

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/vid/Games/Trailers/TLOMN%20Demo%20Disc%20Trailer.mp4

http://biomediaproject.com/bmp/files/vid/Games/Trailers/TLOMN%20Toa%20CD%20Trailer.mp4

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-Apr-20 08:09 PM

The Nestle trailer IIRC is just a shorter version of the alpha FMV with better sound

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:10 PM

the bottom there

sorry im just trying to get my ducks in a row here im kinda confused

so liam you patched together the audio and video?

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:12 PM

Just the audio

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:12 PM

gotcha okay

so the nestle trailer is irrelevant to me then. You used it for audio only

And the audio file you made is the combination of a couple alpha FMVs and the nestle trailer. Which is synced to the alpha opening?

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:17 PM

ye

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:19 PM

alrighty Ill get to working. So we want to have the added scenes from the alpha in the beta FMV right? so technic Rahi and new scenes. Ill compare trailers and fmv and choose the least compressed of each scene

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:20 PM

ye

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:20 PM

sounds good ez

hear from me soon

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:20 PM

❤️

Listening back to some old tracks of my own. This sounds a lot better than I gave myself credit for at the time

Attachment: TotT_Remaster_Test_3.wav (6.79 MB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:23 PM

Did you take the GBA midi and throw a soundfont on it?

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:23 PM

Pretty much. :v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:24 PM

Thats still good. Theres a lot more you can do creatively as well now that you basically have it all laid out. Ive been writing my own music lately

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:24 PM

I mean yeah there is, but I'm definitely not a composer. xP

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:24 PM

Hmm I may take a swing at it, but no promises

sounds pretty simple I could try to recreate it using real instruments

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:25 PM

Well if you want to do that I may as well send you the project files when you want it

@CapnNeon also did this take, and I'd really like to see where it goes, but he's a busy boi.

Attachment: TotT_Island_of_Mata_Nui_Remix_LPFd.mp3 (1.53 MB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:25 PM

you got it ill let you know. I just hooked my mac up to my desktop setup so i can easily make things without inhibiting myself

Keep forgetting bonk has a lot of synth. Im a more organic musician lol

can you send me what the original sounds like

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:27 PM

Attachment: 01_-_The_Island_of_Mata_Nui.mp3 (1.68 MB)

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 08:29 PM

steel drum, bongo/ hand drum, bass probably upright or percussion or something, flute. Hmmmm

interest is definitely piqued but one thing at a time.

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 08:31 PM

:p

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 09:49 PM

so my upscaler is taking a poopy and no one is around to troubleshoot it on my other server. But I was playing LOMN and fuck. 4:3 letterboxed video stretched to 16:9 makes me wanna die. Im gonna hop on restoring these asap

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 09:49 PM

:v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 09:51 PM

im trying to fix it on my end but when it comes to programming im useless

The Cap'm (Reese) 27-Apr-20 09:51 PM

~~bitch I play in 4:3 exclusively~~

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 27-Apr-20 09:51 PM

thats the way it was created

I play sonic adventure in 4:3

I just forgot to change my launch settings lolol

can I launch this in 1440 by 1080?

my b found the conifg

V A H K I T I 27-Apr-20 11:01 PM

️

Leena 18-May-20 09:43 AM

Which Turaga are left?

For the voice clips.

I have something for Onewa.

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-May-20 10:09 AM

It was Oneea, Matau (who needed fixed reverb fx), and Vakama

Leena 18-May-20 10:09 AM

Gotcha

Here's Onewa

Attachment: Onewa.mp3 (1.87 MB)

Gonna split up his clips later

Should I still legitimately use Tim Curry as a base for Vakama though? (edited)

The Cap'm (Reese) 18-May-20 10:17 AM

Dunno. I thought it was funny, personally, but of you think something else would be better go right ahead

Leena 18-May-20 10:19 AM

I do have a vocal stem that may work

Attachment: Vakama1.mp3 (66.3 KB)

Attachment: Vakama2.mp3 (42.5 KB)

V A H K I T I 18-May-20 11:28 AM

Hmm maybe. I love the tim curry tho. :v

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 19-May-20 07:37 PM

https://youtu.be/RV-NdC9Ad7o

discoDSP

discoDSP OPL FM Synthesizer Trailer

https://www.discodsp.com/opl/ The OPL is a digital sound synthesis chip developed by Yamaha in the mid 1980s. Among other products, it was used in sound cards for PC, including the Ad Lib card and early Sound Blaster series.

V A H K I T I 30-May-20 03:32 PM

WIP

Attachment: REBUILT.mp3 (5.76 MB)

@Grampa Walker I believe you requested this at some point

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-May-20 03:32 PM

Wuzzat

sweg (Andrew) 30-May-20 04:16 PM

sound like music

is gud

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-May-20 04:29 PM

I'm not at laptop to hear that easily; what is it?

Grampa Walker 31-May-20 12:53 AM

Oh?

What hath I missed?

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 01:10 AM

Yes

Grampa Walker 31-May-20 01:12 AM

Can... I have specifics?

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 01:13 AM

Literally just the file I posted above. :p

Grampa Walker 31-May-20 01:32 AM

Oh, yeah, that. I think you sent it before, just no clue where. Either way, always good to have it available easily.

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 01:34 AM

Well no, I couldn't have because I just mixed it today :p

Grampa Walker 31-May-20 05:17 AM

Oh, it's a new one?

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 12:45 PM

Ye

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 07:16 PM

The reason I did that btw was for the credits.

Since I'm making them an FMV I can fine tune the speed and what plays in the background to match the music now.

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-20 07:17 PM

Good :v

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 07:17 PM

I may end up just keeping them like this tbh. There's more we can do with it as an FMV, or at the very least the same things but far easier

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-20 07:17 PM

You going with the Sonic Adventure-esque journey screenshots?

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 07:18 PM

Probably yea

I just need some good shots

And maybe some Nobua mode teases

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-20 07:18 PM

I still kind of am in favor of a specific credits map post-Nobua or something

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 07:20 PM

I mean there's no reason I can't just render out a variation

It's far easier to do that

If unlocks file says this, play this, else play that

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-20 07:22 PM

I more mean like, an N64 Zelda style thing where it pans around the area as the credits play over some major characters, ending with a static shot (and that three-finger island bit you came up with)

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 07:22 PM

I mean

I like that idea, but I'm not sure if we can even do that.

The pan is easy, and the credits, (once the crash is figured) are also easy.

But I'm not sure if the game will even allow you to play a text scroll and a spline camera at the same time

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-20 07:23 PM

I mean if you're making an fmv

V A H K I T I 31-May-20 07:24 PM

Just render both out independently, yes

The Cap'm (Reese) 31-May-20 07:24 PM

Just have the pan in-game, record that, slap the credits on top in your video editor, then FMV it up

Yeah

Fries101Reviews 03-Jun-20 04:23 PM

is that gonna be the second credits or the final credits?

perk 05-Jun-20 09:07 AM

Is this the place where I tell you that using uncompressed WAVs is not a good idea?

(that being said I don't know what your engine supports so maybe you have to)

V A H K I T I 05-Jun-20 12:13 PM

wot

perk 06-Jun-20 01:41 AM

uncompressed audio really bloats game filesize, and has greatly contributed to games having huge download sizes in recent years. On top of that, it's totally unnecessary if when flac or opus are available. I am saying this based off your recent youtube video, so I might have misunderstood your intentions.

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 06-Jun-20 01:42 AM

could take the uncompressed bois and just make them compressed with modern standards i.e. the lego island stuff last year

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 01:42 AM

That is what we're doing, yes

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 06-Jun-20 01:42 AM

but i think theyre already in mp3

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 01:42 AM

320kbps mp3

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 06-Jun-20 01:42 AM

yer i was gonna say

V A H K I T I 06-Jun-20 01:42 AM

The game only supports wav and mp3 so there is no in between

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 06-Jun-20 01:43 AM

least it supports mp3

perk 06-Jun-20 01:46 AM

Fair enough, mp3s are fine (kinda odd it doesn't support vorbis though). Thanks, and good luck with the game.

V A H K I T I 19-Jun-20 08:37 PM

You know I kinda forgot about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH-awoTLqU0

SiIvaGunner

The Legend of BIONICLE - SiIvaGunner: King for Another Day

Music: The Legend of BIONICLE Original Composer: Paul Hardcastle Arrangement: COCONABE Special Thanks: wolfman1405 Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL0CQjrcN8D08kd1Cmr-ncqfajomFK98P Please read the channel description.

~~I'm half tempted to message him and ask if it's okay to use in LOMN. xP~~

Leena 19-Jun-20 08:46 PM

~~Thanks for the repost~~

V A H K I T I 19-Jun-20 08:46 PM

xP

V A H K I T I 29-Jun-20 08:11 PM

A suggestion btw

For Rebuilt we should redo the cutscene audio sometime

I nticed the musical and SFX cues are a lot nicer in the abridged versions of vanilla beta

We should try and replicate that

Lewa and Pohatu's meeting scenes are a good example

The music starts and stops at key points and it accentuates the goings on

In the alpha audio, it just plays constantly

The Cap'm (Reese) 29-Jun-20 08:13 PM

I mean in the alpha G meets P the audio pauses at points (such as before he kicks the second boulder)

In both versions

I do agree there needs to be some redoing as a whole

The meetups especially use a lot of weird SFX for the mask transfer

Such as the otherwise unused (in vanilla) collection and activation noises for the Ruru

V A H K I T I 29-Jun-20 08:17 PM

Ye

And they do have pauses, but not quite in the same ways and places

I'm recording all the game's cutscenes from all three versions for the BMP channel, so I'll send you a comparison in a bit

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 30-Jun-20 08:00 PM

Audio isn't synced good?

The Cap'm (Reese) 30-Jun-20 08:00 PM

Sound effect usage moreso

🐸 Fraug (The Ass-Man) 30-Jun-20 08:00 PM

Oh it's in game stuff

Leena 01-Jul-20 10:18 PM

Thoughts?

Attachment: Onewa.mp3 (1.87 MB)

@V A H K I T I

V A H K I T I 01-Jul-20 10:44 PM

I like the voice, but the sfx are a bit grating.

We don't need another Kopaka.

Leena 01-Jul-20 10:46 PM

Fair lol

I’ll send his audio without the fx, just ping me

Tomorrow

V A H K I T I 01-Jul-20 10:53 PM

I think the FX can work, just maybe toned down somewhat.

Less crackling gravel and more rumbling boulders if that makes sense

Leena 02-Jul-20 07:52 AM

Attachment: OnewaNoBG.mp3 (1.84 MB)

Leena 02-Jul-20 08:00 AM

Attachment: OnewaUpdate.mp3 (1.85 MB)

Random idea: Once I'm finished with the Turaga, would it be possible to animate a mini cutscene with the Turaga and their game models having a conversation?

For advertising purposes ofc.

V A H K I T I 02-Jul-20 11:59 AM

None of us are animators as of yet. :p

Also the updated version works. Could maybe use some more bassy sfx, but I like it

V A H K I T I 03-Jul-20 02:20 PM

So fun fact

I know we've probably been over this before, but the lewa nui rama cutscene in main is weird

IIRC it's the same cutscene but scripted to play from a specific frame.

Unfortunately the audio was never changed and has no way to sync up to this. I went into my vanilla backup to double check this

We never broke that, it was apparently just broken from the start

I have edited the audio according to what the cutscene needs

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 03-Jul-20 03:40 PM

yeah that was really weird

back when we first looked at it

V A H K I T I 06-Jul-20 02:38 PM

Question @Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) if you're available.

You still have old builds of things. Is my edited Pohatu Meets Kopaka audio in there anywhere?

Somehow it's been overwritten by the default in Rebuilt

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jul-20 02:39 PM

I... don't know

which version is it in?

V A H K I T I 06-Jul-20 02:40 PM

If it's not in the first Rebuilt release probably one of the alpha releases prior to 810 2019.

Or main

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jul-20 02:41 PM

~~I mean IMO that audio was a bit wrong considering you put talk noises over an internal monologue but y'know...~~

V A H K I T I 06-Jul-20 02:41 PM

We've been over this

He wouldn't be bopping his head around if he wasn't actually speaking.

And Pohatu doesn't have any voice either

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jul-20 02:42 PM

See the latter I get

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jul-20 02:42 PM

Is this it?

Attachment: legocinePohatuMeetsKopaka.mp3 (1.89 MB)

V A H K I T I 06-Jul-20 02:42 PM

No that's the original

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 06-Jul-20 02:42 PM

that's the first rebuilt release

V A H K I T I 06-Jul-20 02:42 PM

fucc

The Cap'm (Reese) 06-Jul-20 02:44 PM

and I know Saffire made his head move, but why the fuck logically would he be saying that aloud (also it's an internal monologue in the comic the dialogue is ripped from but that doesn't necessarily matter)

V A H K I T I 06-Jul-20 02:45 PM

Idk man, but I'm just editing it based on what's presented in the animation. If we want to change that animation later, we can edit it again then

V A H K I T I 06-Jul-20 02:53 PM

Just gonna reedit it

It was a quick one anyways

justframbo 29-Jul-20 07:57 PM

what software's being used for rhe voice effects?

Leena 29-Jul-20 08:49 PM

You mean the custom ones, or the originals?

justframbo 30-Jul-20 04:50 AM

I mean, if you know the originals

I was just curious to how you were doing it

Leena 30-Jul-20 07:11 AM

Ah, alright. I’m mainly using WavePad and FL Studio 20, but someone can use Audacity for it too without too much trouble.

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 11:52 AM

So I was watching a video on Mario 64 sounds and was tipped off to SFX wiki, which apparently has a page for lomn

https://soundeffects.fandom.com/wiki/Lego_Bionicle:_The_Legend_of_Mata_Nui

Lego Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui

Lego Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui is a video game developed by Saffire Corporation and supposed to be published by LEGO Group in late 2001. It was to be released for the PC in stores, but was...

Doesn't look like it's been updated since release though

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 12:00 PM

Don't recognize many except for the robots

But THIS is definitely Onua's ambient track

https://www.audiomicro.com/south-america-evening-jungle-america-royalty-free-stock-music-961983

Royalty Free Music and Sound Effects Library w/ 300k+ high quality ...

JUNGLE, SOUTH AMERICA 7

We could potentially update it using this since the current one is definitely clipped from this IIRC (edited)

Lower quality too

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 12:35 PM

Sent an invite to the guy who created the page and found some of these SFX.

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 12:47 PM

@CEO100able Hey there! So a couple of things to clarify first off, I'm not sure if you're aware, but the game did eventually get release a couple of years ago, and a lot of things about its history were clarified since then.

CEO100able 03-Aug-20 12:47 PM

I actually wasn't in the first place.

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 12:47 PM

For one, the whole rumor about beta disks was a complete fabrication, aha.

CEO100able 03-Aug-20 12:48 PM

It was? Wow...

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 12:48 PM

One of those long standing rumors that just gained traction from word of mouth I guess.

Funny thing is there may actually be far MORE.

The final build of the game was burned to CDs by senior staff of Saffire when their doors closed and given to people who worked on the project, which is where we got our beta copy from Mr. Darvell Hunt.

CEO100able 03-Aug-20 12:49 PM

Well, a few years ago, I saw information somewhere on the web for beta discs of the game you worked on that were included in some 2001 LEGO Bionicle canisters. I believed it was true.

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 12:49 PM

However the alpha that released in early 2018 is another story.

We still don't entirely know where that came from, but we do know that Lego received weekly builds of the game via FTP.

Since the game had roughly a year of development, that means that if anyone held onto those snapshots.. well there would still be quite a few different versions out there somewhere.

Far more than 8.

You can see the full story of the game here, since around that time we worked with Liam Robertson to uncover exactly what happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThpxKCT6EL0

DidYouKnowGaming?

Lego's Cancelled Bionicle Game for PC & GameCube - Game History Sec...

SUBSCRIBE for more failed, cancelled & beta games ► http://bit.ly/DYKG_Subscribe Failed Nintendo Pitches ► https://bit.ly/2rCxYzj Check out Liam's Channel ► http://bit.ly/2cOxShZ LEGO Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui was being developed by Saffire Corporation, and was made as...

And this is what we're currently working on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXebLIpOsRE

Litestone Studios

BIONICLE The Legend of Mata Nui REBUILT - Launch Trailer

On The Island of Mata Nui, a great evil rises. Discover the Great Masks of Power, free the island, and fulfil your destiny. As of August 10th, The Legend of Mata Nui REBUILT version 1.0 is now available. Though far from complete, this version marks the first step in the concl...

CEO100able 03-Aug-20 12:52 PM

I actually watched the Rebuilt trailer earlier. It was cool!

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 12:52 PM

Ondrik🅱 (Ondrej) 03-Aug-20 12:52 PM

thanks

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 12:54 PM

At any rate, for the reason I reached out to you, as I mentioned we've updated the soundtrack in our most recent commits with higher quality MP3s based on the uncompressed wavs sent to us by David Madden. I'll send a quick comparison for you, but suffice to say, doing the same thing with the SFX would be nice, and so far you seem to have an ear for it.

Original from the game files:

Attachment: MUSICONUATHEME.mp3 (2.27 MB)

Uncompressed:

Attachment: ONUATH1.WAV (25.6 MB)

On the side at BioMedia Project, we've also been digging in to the SFX and music samples used in MNOG. So far it seems like a great deal of them came from Sound Cube, but we're still digging. It's unfortunate that a lot of those sample packs are nearly impossible to find these days.

CEO100able 03-Aug-20 01:13 PM

You're welcome, Ondrik! And thanks for providing those two music files, V A H K I T I! They are fabulous!

I am also experienced with some royalty-free music libraries and production music libraries, but never heard of Sound Cube.

Well, I have to go now since I have other hobbies and priorities to deal with today. It sure has been nice talking to you, especially video game developers. I really had a wonderful time. See you next time!

V A H K I T I 03-Aug-20 01:16 PM

No worries, looking forward to working with ya. Take it easy.